< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 1785 OF 2679 ·
|Jul-11-18|| ||Bobsterman3000: <saffuna: I have stated where I get my news.
The only conclusion I can draw from your refusal to say where you get your news is that you're ashamed of it. You don't want us to know you dredge it up from deep in the right-wing swamp.>|
You draw many "conclusions," few of them correct.
If you want to know so bad, why don't you get off your lazy duff and take a look at how many links I've posted here from said sites? And take a look at how many I've posted from the NYT, for instance.
I suspect that you'll fall into your normal trap of debunking yourself.
And we know that you trend towards the most simplistic thinking that just has you wanting to label someone as "readers" of X or Y publication, but that's a waste of my time.
BTW, every single one of those publications you named is now assuring the American public that the US Army will have Doha completely encircled by the end of the summer...
|Jul-11-18|| ||Bobsterman3000: <Saffuna - Population of France: 67,000,000.
Population of Croatia: 4,500,000.
A lot easier to be multi-ethnic with fifteen times the population.>
You always take the bait, without fail. I'll spring the trap at some point in the very near future.
(Unless it's raining on the tarmac)
|Jul-11-18|| ||optimal play: <al wazir: <optimal play: Where is that "self-declared"?> In every sentence you post on the subject.>|
That's not "self-declared". That's just you reading your own prejudice into my comments.
<<FYI>. *That* is your idea of a definition? You can't be serious. If you don't have a way of determining who is a "cultural Marxist" and who isn't, then you don't know what the term means. You're just using it because you've heard it used by someone else.>
I'm completely serious.
You fit the description in that YouTube video perfectly!
<<So according to your anti-Hindu bigotry, every single Hindu is anti-Muslim?! Even to the extent whereby a Hindu on Rogoff cannot offer an objective opinion about Islam on the sub-continent?!> Objective? How can an *opinion* be "objective"? Is English your first language? Capulets might conceivably respect Montagues, or Montagues occasionally put in a good word for Capulets, but I wouldn't count on it.>
What about Romeo?
<<Define "evil".> I don't use that term.>
You just did use it, idiot!
<Jul-11-18 al wazir: ... I reject all religious superstition -- Hindu, Muslim, Christian, and the rest. But I don't treat the people who believe them as evil.>
Please explain what you mean by that statement, including your definition of "evil".
|Jul-11-18|| ||optimal play: <Bobsterman3000: <Optimal Play> You are giving way too much credit to <Al Wazir> by calling him a Cultural Marxist.>|
I give way too much credit to <al wazir> by conversing with him!
<<Al Wazir> is just a wannabe contrarian who simply tries to take the opposite stance of any post he sees that he doesn't like, without regard to reason, relevance or how utterly foolish he will look trying to argue that angle.>
1. I say that modern Germany is a homogeneous country, he says that can't be true since Germany has Roma and Polish people there. (but we all know that the entire planet agrees that Germany actually <is> a homeogeneous country by the common usage and definition of the word, even after its recent allowances for Turkish and other migration)
2. I say that North Korea provoked and threatened Japan by firing missiles over the country, he (in his infinite wisdom) says that can't possibly be true because nations always fire rockets over other nations when they shoot satellites into the air so what North Korea did is no big deal at all. (!!!???) But worldwide media pretty much agrees that what North Korea did is a provocative and threatening act.
3. I say the painfully obvious and universally accepted fact that countries with significant Muslim populations are proven to allow women far less freedom of dress, public partying/dancing and social association as compared to Christian/Western countries.
His genius reply?? --- "b-bb-bbbut Anatolian folk dancing!!".>
You totally have <al wazir> worked out to perfection.
<al wazir> has been reduced to nothing more than a soccer ball we kick around for amusement.
|Jul-11-18|| ||optimal play: <diceman: <al wazir: |
How can an *opinion* be "objective"?>
You'll have to excuse al.
Being liberal, he's only familiar with <Subjective> opinion!>
Being a libtard, he's only familiar with his own opinion.
|Jul-11-18|| ||Colonel Mortimer: *Trump tells NATO allies to spend more… like thrifty Pentagon buying $1.2k mugs & $10k toilet seats?*|
<Toilet seat covers that cost $10,000? Coffee mugs for $1,200 apiece? No wonder NATO countries aren’t too keen to follow US military spending benchmarks.>
Not one penny of European money should go to the grotesque behemoth that is the US Military Industrial Complex
|Jul-11-18|| ||optimal play: <Bobsterman3000: <Al Wazir> seek professional help.|
Or a full refund from Princeton.>
I don't believe <al wazir> ever went to Princeton.
He's too stupid.
If he did truly attend Princeton then it's a damning indictment of that university.
<Bobsterman3000: <Al Wazir - I have NEVER tried to deny that some Muslims are terrorists and many others sympathize with and support them. I have repeatedly said as much. You *must* recall how I drove <Abdel Irada> from this page by arguing that. But most Muslims -- by far, the vast majority -- aren't terrorists. Tarring them all with the same brush you use for Daesh is not simple ignorance, .>
This is your response to what I just stated about the personal freedoms of women in the Muslim world when it comes to dress and being able to freely mingle in social settings?
You are simply brain dead.
And nobody here claimed that every single Muslim supports ISIS, not only can you not stay on topic, but you stray off into other topics that are increasingly erroneous and irrelevant.
You need less drugs, not more.>
Maybe that's <al wazir>'s problem?
He took too many drugs at Princeton and they fried his brain.
|Jul-11-18|| ||optimal play: <al wazir: <Bobsterman3000: And nobody here claimed that every single Muslim supports ISIS>. I never accused anyone of claiming that. Not in this universe anyway.|
What I am disputing is this:
<optimal play: It's all just Islam and it's all just as intolerant.>
<optimal play: First of all, every so-called "flavor" of Islam is just as distasteful as any other.>
*That* is tarring two billion people with a single brush.>
It seems <al wazir> is the one who doesn't understand English.
Just read my two remarks above again.
Do you see what they say?
They refer to Islam, not individual Muslims.
The fact is that Islam is intolerant.
The Koran is intolerant.
Sharia Law is intolerant.
It's all Islam.
That teenage girl who was arrested for dancing is nominally a Muslim, but I obviously don't include her or others like her in the "intolerant" category.
They're the unfortunate billions held captive by Islam.
To <al wazir> and his fellow Cultural Marxists, that teenage girl and the billions of other poor unfortunate Muslims held captive by Islam are simply collateral damage and should be ignored in the interests of political correctness and cultural diversity.
If <al wazir> wants a definition of "evil" I would tell him to just look in the mirror.
|Jul-11-18|| ||optimal play: <Bobsterman3000: <Al Wazir - What I am disputing is this: |
<optimal play: It's all just Islam and it's all just as intolerant.>
and this: >
Ummmmm.... Islam is pretty much defined by its steadfast lack of compromise. Islam views <itself> as intolerant.
Where exactly do you see Muslim clerics or practitioners espousing anything remotely resembling the Western notion of "tolerance"?>
But <al wazir> must promote Islam as part of his Cultural Marxist agenda.
His brain has become hard-wired with PC diversity and can do no other.
|Jul-11-18|| ||optimal play: <Bobsterman3000: <al wazir: <Bobsterman3000: Where exactly do you see Muslim clerics or practitioners espousing anything remotely resembling the Western notion of "tolerance"?> In the US, Germany, Canada and many other Western countries where they have come as immigrants and assimilated they are as tolerant as anyone else. >|
No, they aren't "as tolerant as anyone else" when they migrate to the West. They just don't have the numbers to agitate for change that suits their Muslim sensibilities.
But those 2,000 Muslim migrants who raped 1,200 German women in one night are showing YOU what they think of the right of women to move about unaccompanied by a male relative, as per the tradition in Middle Eastern countries where women don't have the right of free movement and free social association. Nor do they have "reproductive rights" as demanded under the Western ideal of <tolerance>.
<I would go farther and say that over the entire history of the two faiths, the record shows that Muslims have been more tolerant than Christians. Space and patience are insufficient for me to document this assertion here, but if you spend a few hours researching it I think you'll find plenty of evidence to support it.>
When exactly does a country with any significant Muslim population <TOLERATE> the right of homosexuals to exist? The right of women to wear bikinis walking down the street? The right of anyone to go and make babies outside of wedlock or to drink alcohol whenever they want? The West has opened up on these sorts of matters quite a bit in the last 3 generations, the Islamic World has not.
You are delusional.>
<al wazir> is delusional as are all Cultural Marxists.
They are not in touch with reality.
|Jul-11-18|| ||saffuna: <*Trump tells NATO allies to spend more...>|
Asking nations to spend 4% on defense is ridiculous. Even Trump can't take that seriously. He just wants to make trouble inside NATO.
|Jul-11-18|| ||OhioChessFan: If they did that for about 20 years, they'd be caught up on their back due obligations. I like that he's drawing a line in the sand with the freeloading Eurolibs.|
|Jul-11-18|| ||al wazir: <Bobsterman3000: What are you talking about? I've never personally met a Muslim I didn't like. I've been to many Mosques, I've visited at Eid Al-Fitr.>
<(not that you know what that is)>. Should I? (Actually, I do, but I don't brag about it.)
<But I am not silly enough to think that Muslims have to see the world the way that Westerners do.> But you are silly enough to make sweeping generalizations about them.
<And I'm not naive enough to think that the Western "liberal and tolerant" way is better and that they should aspire to be just like the West.> Now you're making silly generalizations about the West. We big-noses aren't all alike, you know. We sometimes disagree. We squabble over issues. (I hear gasps of "No!!!") We even fight wars with each other. (So do Muslims.)
<And I'm honest enough to see that Muslim attitudes towards women, the role or women, and the behavior of women are significantly different than those attitudes have become in the West.> On average that's true. But there's a huge spectrum of cultural differences, in every aspect of life.
<Do you not understand the difference?> Make that "differences."
<Only your low intelligence can excuse you. You're just a dumb liberal who sees the whole planet through your own foolish arrogance.> You were doing pretty well, but now you've gone and spoiled the effect with your childish playground insults. You can't really think my intelligence is low, any more than I think yours is. True, I call you "ignorant" sometimes, which isn't a whole lot better, but there's a difference: ignorant people can learn, whereas low intelligence never improves.
<I'm telling Muslims that they don't have to aspire to YOUR foolish liberal values to be worthy people. And why should they want to think and act like YOU?> What does a Muslim have to do or be, in your estimation, to become "worthy"?
You can't be serious about this. If Muslims lived in your community -- if they were your next-door neighbors -- wouldn't you rather have them be "foolish liberals" than Islamic extremists, or even Islamic non-extremists? All along you've been saying that what you object to is cultural differences between them and us. But we foolish liberals share *your* culture!
|Jul-12-18|| ||al wazir: The story of the cave rescue is truly astounding. Someday it's going to be one of the all-time great movies. Thailand mobilized ten thousand people in the effort. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-th...|
Among the things that puzzles me is, how did the team get so far into the cave? Sure, it was fairly dry when they went in, but if the way they were brought out is the only way in, what made them decide to crawl through passages as tight as the one shown in the last photo in this article? I wouldn't have done it. Would you?
|Jul-12-18|| ||saffuna: <If they did that for about 20 years, they'd be caught up on their back due obligations. >|
Could you explain that? The 2% goal was only established in 2014.
|Jul-12-18|| ||optimal play: <al wazir: The story of the cave rescue is truly astounding. Someday it's going to be one of the all-time great movies. Thailand mobilized ten thousand people in the effort. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-th...
Among the things that puzzles me is, how did the team get so far into the cave? Sure, it was fairly dry when they went in, but if the way they were brought out is the only way in, what made them decide to crawl through passages as tight as the one shown in the last photo in this article? I wouldn't have done it. Would you?>|
Of course you wouldn't have done it because you're a typical cowardly Cultural Marxist who is only interested in such things as promoting Antifa and Islam and wrecking a cohesive western civilised society.
Anyway, as usual you were wrong again!
<Jul-06-18 al wazir: <A former Thai navy Seal has died from a lack of air while placing air tanks inside the cave where 12 boys have been stranded for nearly two weeks. Maintaining air supplies inside the cave emerged as the “top priority” on Friday as rescuers faced the prospect of the boys remaining underground throughout the monsoon season that ends in October.
The presence of hundreds of rescue workers inside the cave has been depleting the air supply the boys have been relying on, with oxygen inside their chamber down to about 15%, deputy army commander Chalongchai Chaiyakham said at a briefing on Friday.> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...
This cannot end well.>
Thankfully it did end well!
When are you going to realise that you are always wrong about everything?
|Jul-12-18|| ||al wazir: <optimal play: When are you going to realise that you are always wrong about everything?> When are you going to realize that you're a pain in the ass?|
Yes, I was wrong about the rescue, and of course I'm glad about that. But if you read the article I linked to, you'll see that it was a damned close-run thing.
|Jul-12-18|| ||optimal play: <al wazir: <optimal play: When are you going to realise that you are always wrong about everything?> When are you going to realize that you're a pain in the ass?>|
Of course the truth is a pain in the ass to you.
Facts are a pain in the ass to you.
Being confronted with the desolation of your Cultural Marxist worldview is a pain in the ass to you.
<Yes, I was wrong about the rescue, and of course I'm glad about that. But if you read the article I linked to, you'll see that it was a damned close-run thing.>
Of course it was a damned close-run thing. That was obvious from the start.
But whereas normal people remained positive and optimistic and prayed for a successful outcome, you Cultural Marxists automatically took the position that "this cannot end well".
That's the default Cultural Marxist position for everything because you naturally have a pessimistic view of the world.
You don't believe in God so of course you assume nothing can end well.
|Jul-12-18|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <You don't believe in God>|
Finally! What took you so long?
|Jul-12-18|| ||rogge: <normal people remained positive and optimistic>|
Just like you?
|Jul-12-18|| ||Colonel Mortimer: 1. If God does not exist then positive people do not exist.|
2. Positive people exist.
3. Therefore, God exists.
Nothing works like the power of positive thinking!
|Jul-12-18|| ||rogge: The positivity of <optimal> is heartening :)|
|Jul-12-18|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <HeMateMe:> <I'm rooting for Croatia cuz they're the little guy.>|
lol, since when did you root for the little guy? The Palestinians per chance? Harlem blacks maybe?
Talk is cheap as a NY liberal jackass when your not busy stuffing bagels down your pie hole.
|Jul-12-18|| ||HeMateMe: Trump would like to pull out of NATO to pay for his tax cuts. He thinks like a ten year old.|
|Jul-12-18|| ||Nisjesram: Right on , <optimal play>|
Belief in god is very important.
Thy will be done. The ordainer controls fate of souls.
Moved by the misery of <big pawn> , I prayed to ordainer that <big pawn> should understand the refutation of omv argument and non existence of <personal God>.
Ordainer answered my prayers.
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 1785 OF 2679 ·