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Nov-17-11
 | | al wazir: "International law" is a fraud. The principle on which our national government was founded, as stated in the Declaration of Independence, is that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." If it's good enough for us, shouldn't that principle hold for everyone else? How does that apply to international law? Have the people subject to international law given their "just consent" to those laws? If there were a world government, to which everyone in the world was subject, with a representative legislature that enacted laws binding on all the people in the world, that legislative process might qualify as their "consent." But we don't have that. What we have is "conventions" and treaties, drawn up by diplomats from *some* of the nations of the world, signed by the heads of state of some nations (not necessarily the same ones), and ratified by legislatures (where they exist -- sometimes elected, sometimes not) of *some* countries -- again, not necessarily the same ones. And those treaties invariably have opt-out clauses, according to which, at the wish of its then-current government, a signatory nation can withdraw from the treaty by following some specified procedure after giving some specified notice, thereby freeing itself from any obligations under the provisions of the "law." You know what that resembles? It's exactly like "nullification" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interp...), the doctrine that asserts the right of a state government to "nullify" an act of the federal government if it goes against the wishes of the politically dominant members of that state's ruling body. I repeat: International law is a fraud. |
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Nov-17-11
 | | kb2ct: Interesting development:
Occupy Los Angeles protestors seek restraining order against police. :0)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan... |
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| Nov-17-11 | | diceman: < Jim Bartle:
Too bad we can't learn, embrace, understand. Especially after diceman's attempts to reach out to us> Reach out????
I tell you what you are and what your lying politicians are. If you want “reach out” find a maverick. |
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Nov-17-11
 | | kingfu: Would that be Bart Maverick or Bret Maverick?
Do not the lefties always accuse the US of being occupiers? What are the limits / boundaries of free speech? |
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| Nov-17-11 | | I play the Fred: <Occupy Los Angeles protestors seek restraining order against police.> Why haven't serial killers ever thought of this? |
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| Nov-17-11 | | diceman: < Jim Bartle: Gingrich resigned as both Speaker and Congressman for his district after the midterm disaster of 1998> (heh, heh)
Follow the bouncing ball.
Remember the good old days when Jim used to talk about Huckabee? Palins voice and Trumps hair were the talk of the town, Perry, Cain, now
Gingrich.
You’ll save so much time if you just wait for the nominee. I realize you only have one god and pray in one church (Obama)
So this must be confusing for you, the whole idea of “thinking” about a candidate. (realize that all this can be derailed at anytime by a Factor email) Even though:
ITS NOT A POULARTY CONTEST!!!
its has Jims full attention. |
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Nov-18-11
 | | arifattar: Arundhati Roy "We are all Occupiers" http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis... |
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Nov-18-11
 | | brankat: <al wazir> Very true. Couldn't have said it any better myself :-) |
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| Nov-18-11 | | Jim Bartle: Face it, diceman, Gingrich quit because the Republicans had a disastrous election in 1998 and they were ready to replace Gingrich as speaker. And diceman, honestly, why do you ask "Why can't we learn, embrace, understand?" when all you do is make repetitive attacks, largely fact-free, on those who disagree with you? |
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| Nov-18-11 | | Petrosianic: That's exactly what happened. I don't know if it'll affect his nomination chances now, but it is what happened then. Pelosi presided over an even bigger disaster, yet the captain of the Titanic was nominated for another run. I'm not sure what that says about the state of politics in 2010 vs. 1998. |
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Nov-18-11
 | | FSR: Gingrich is on his third marriage. He divorced twice and has admitted cheating on at least one wife. If you recall, he explained (during the present campaign) that he did so because he was working so hard on improving the country. He also served his first wife with divorce papers while she was in the hospital with cancer, then left her and their kids destitute. His soon to be ex-wife went on welfare. Your classic GOP family values. According to a Vanity Fair article some years back, he and one of his mistresses only had oral sex, so that if he was asked if they'd slept together, he could say no. Shades of "I have not had sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." |
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Nov-18-11
 | | kb2ct: Ry Cooder--Wall Street Part Of Town
:0)
http://soundcloud.com/dj-dan-buskir... |
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| Nov-18-11 | | Petrosianic: We settled this in the 90's. Not only does sex not matter, but crimes committed in the name of covering up sex don't matter either. He may or may not get the nomination, but this probably won't affect it, as the bar has been lowered across the board. Everybody wants to lower it for their side but not the other, but it just doesn't work that way. |
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| Nov-18-11 | | cormier: <<<<Lk 19:45-48> Jesus entered the temple area and proceeded to drive out
those who were selling things, saying to them,
"It is written, My house shall be a house of prayer,
but you have made it a den of thieves.">
And every day he was teaching in the temple area.>
The chief priests, the scribes, and the leaders of the people, meanwhile,
were seeking to put him to death,
but they could find no way to accomplish their purpose
because all the people were hanging on his words.> |
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| Nov-18-11 | | cormier: Tens of thousands of Islamists jammed Tahrir Square here Friday to protest attempts by Egypt's military rulers to hold onto power |
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| Nov-18-11 | | Zorts: al wazir <Anyone who refuses to use ignore...also wears a 'hair shirt', turns the thermostat down to 55, and lives on a diet of raw vegetables.> Hilarious! Do these 'hair shirts' really exist? Does anybody wear them; except for maybe Michael Behe, William Dembski, and ID promoters? |
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| Nov-18-11 | | diceman: < Jim Bartle:
Too bad we can't learn, embrace, understand. Especially after diceman's attempts to reach out to us> (heh, heh)
Obviously Jim you’ve never been a conservative around liberals,
reaching out could lose you an appendage.
<Colonel Mortimer: Taking out the Tea Party would do far more for world peace than taking out Iran.> Liberals are always so very, very, nice.
<goldenbear:I must say <diceman> impresses me. He doesn't seem the least bit bothered by being attacked. I think it's admirable.> Attacked?
Wow, it must have been BobCrisp, Patzer or Pinned Piece.
(we know how nice liberals are) |
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| Nov-18-11 | | diceman: <A man who said he planned to firebomb Macy’s was arrested on Wednesday on charges of making terrorist threats, after a video of remarks he had made at an Occupy Wall street protest in Manhattan surfaced online. In the video, which the police showed at a briefing, the man, Nkrumah Tinsley, 29, spoke Tuesday outside Zuccotti Park and referred to Thursday, which protest organizers have planned as a day of demonstration. He said, “In a few days you’re going to see what a Molotov cocktail can do to Macy’s.”> (if he hates the rich, why wouldn’t he choose Nordstrom’s) Wow, firebomb Macys with a Molotov cocktail, that must be some of that
“reaching out” Jim B talks about.
Why cant conservatives be as kind and caring as liberals? Such deep, deep, deep, thinkers,
changing the world, one threat at a time.
(remember when the Tea Party leveled JC Penny’s, that was fun) |
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| Nov-18-11 | | diceman: <OWS Protesters Chant ‘Follow Those Kids!’ As Small Children Try To Go To School On Wall Street Tiny Tots, Some As Young As 4, Overwhelmed By Hostility, Crush Of Humanity> Must be more of that “reaching out”, maybe the kids parents had jobs and were part of the evil capitalism? People who work and make money, having children, both despicable, and insidious. |
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| Nov-18-11 | | ControlledDemolition: I'd rather have a breakfast at <Tiffany's> than a cocktail at <Macy's>. |
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| Nov-18-11 | | Petrosianic: How about a bottle in front of me? |
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| Nov-18-11 | | ControlledDemolition: <<Occupy Los Angeles protestors>> Did they ever protest the occupation of Los Angeles by Mexicans? Or did they just move to the suburbs? |
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Nov-18-11
 | | FSR: <ControlledDemolition: <<Occupy Los Angeles protestors>> Did they ever protest the occupation of Los Angeles by Mexicans? Or did they just move to the suburbs?> We stole California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Texas from Mexico. If the Mexicans try to steal them back, that's only fair. |
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| Nov-18-11 | | Petrosianic: <We stole California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Texas from Mexico. If the Mexicans try to steal them back, that's only fair.> Actually, it's not, considering that they stole it from the Indians originally. If they later had it stolen from them, then THAT'S fair. |
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| Nov-18-11 | | ControlledDemolition: <We stole California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Texas from Mexico.> More exactly, you fought and won them. Question is, why aren't you prepared to fight for them now? |
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