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|Mar-23-12|| ||Colonel Mortimer: I agree - please leave|
|Mar-23-12|| ||OhioChessFan: <JB: If I'm ever charged with a violent crime, I'll be absolutely sure to get you on the jury, OCF. No chance I'd be convicted. I think Johnnie Cochran would have liked you on the jury as well.>|
Let's review. You haven't admitted you jumped the gun per the "fear for his life issue". You haven't yet produced evidence he is basing his defense on the "Stand Your Ground" law. It's not a big deal, but you weren't aware it was a gated community. You weren't aware Zimmerman was bloodied. You weren't aware Zimmerman had grass on his back. You weren't aware the police who showed up determined the evidence fit the claim of self defense. None of which has stopped you from concluding Zimmerman is dead guilty.
As for the adjudication of the case, I would not be a bit surprised to see Zimmerman charged and convicted. However, what I have seen so far is hardly a slam dunk. And I can't get past the fact the police haven't yet charged him.
As for Johnnie Cochran, his client got away with murder, though the case against him was a slam dunk.
|Mar-23-12|| ||OhioChessFan: March 30.......see ya'll. :) Visit my forum if you're interested in followup JB>|
|Mar-23-12|| ||Marmot PFL: <As for Johnnie Cochran, his client got away with murder, though the case against him was a slam dunk.>|
A Hispanic friend told me if he was on that jury that as soon as Det. Fuhrman took the 5th he would have figured police coverup and vote not guilty on reasonable doubt. He claims that he and his kids were stopped many times by white police just for being in places that are mainly white. A minority jury was key to the defense, also most were not college educated and the DNA evidence was largely wasted on them.
|Mar-23-12|| ||Marmot PFL: <Let's not forget the hoodie factor...>|
I thought in the South the whites wore the hoods.
|Mar-23-12|| ||kb2ct: |
Please provide a link where Trayvon's girlfriend claimed "she heard Zimmerman approaching Trayvon."
She said nothing of the sort.
|Mar-23-12|| ||kb2ct: |
In the OJ trial, as soon as OJ's blood was found contaiminated with the EDTA preservative, it was obvious that he would walk.
|Mar-23-12|| ||cormier: a++ ...|
|Mar-23-12|| ||Marmot PFL: <In the OJ trial, as soon as OJ's blood was found contaiminated with the EDTA preservative, it was obvious that he would walk.>|
That was disputed, and in any event went well over the jury's head. You can't expect a jury with only 2 people that went to college to understand that kind of technical evidence.
|Mar-23-12|| ||PinnedPiece: <OCF: If you can get one person to agree with you, that those are equivalent, I'll leave this board for a week.>|
<Colonel Mortimer: I agree - please leave>
You meant "a person" as in "someone else with reasoning powers", yes?
Does this imply somehow that <C.Mortimer> is a person with reasoning powers? Hmmm-mmm-.
I don't see it myself.
|Mar-23-12|| ||al wazir: <galdur: Dangerous and Bizarre Obama Nominee for World Bank Prez This looks like major trouble.> Trouble for whom? Have you got a less hysterical source than that blog?|
The blogger, Robert Wenzel, has quite a list of other interesting rants: <The Soros Connection to the Medicine Man Nominee to the World Bank> (http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/); <Is Obama a CIA Controlled Manchurian President?> (http://www.economicpolicyjournal.co...); <Ron Paul Does Best Against Obama in New Poll!> (http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/).
He's not what usually passes as an objective journalist.
|Mar-24-12|| ||brankat: One way or the other Mr. President will serve 1 more term.|
|Mar-24-12|| ||King Death: < Marmot PFL: That...in any event went well over the jury's head. You can't expect a jury with only 2 people that went to college to understand that kind of technical evidence.>|
Yeah, I guess those of us that didn't go up to college are a bunch of freaking idiots. Maybe next time they'll impanel a jury full of grads that can't utter a sentence without it beginning "Like...".
|Mar-24-12|| ||Alien Math: Internet Providers Agree to Fight 'Zombie' Computer Networks | Posted: 03/22/2012 3:08 pm Updated: 03/22/2012 9:04 pm
On Thursday, the Federal Communications Commission announced commitments from most of the nation's big Internet service providers to adhere to a voluntary "code of conduct" to fight botnets. The code calls on the providers to detect whether customers' computers have become robots -- or "bots" -- and notify and help customers whose computers are infected.
|Mar-24-12|| ||chancho: From the Huffington Post:
<The police said that Zimmerman told investigators that he followed the teen lost him, and as he got out of his vehicle to note the nearest address to give to officers, Martin attacked him. But witness accounts and an account given to Martinís lawyers by Martinís 16-year-old girlfriend paint a different picture all together. The unidentified girl said that she was on the phone with Martin moments before he was killed. She said that Martin told her that he was being followed by a stranger. At one point she said that she heard a man asking Martin what he was doing there. Then she heard a scuffle, the phone fell to the ground, and the line went dead.>
|Mar-24-12|| ||King Death: < NakoSonorense: ...You may be falling for the classic conservative trap...that women dressing provocatively are partly responsible for what happens to them.>|
Hopefully most folks have progressed past this and deal with concrete situations instead of assuming that the woman asked for it.
|Mar-24-12|| ||brankat: So, women are not into it any more? Then, I guess, I must have been comatose for the last 50 years :-)|
|Mar-24-12|| ||Softpaw: <At one point she said that she heard a man asking Martin what he was doing there. Then she heard a scuffle...>|
Suppose it went down like this: Zimmerman follows Martin, catches up with him, and confronts him. "What are you doing here? expletive," Martin replies "expletive", turns and tries to leave.
Zimmerman grabs him. Martin twists around...they struggle a bit...Martin trips Zimmerman to the ground and Z. pulls Martin down with him. They wrestle around a bit. Martin pries himself loose a bit and kicks Zimmerman several times. Zimmerman feels very vulnerable on the ground now, feels his life is in danger--he pulls out his gun and shoots Martin.
What should the charge here be?
|Mar-24-12|| ||AlanPardew: <That was disputed, and in any event went well over the jury's head. You can't expect a jury with only 2 people that went to college to understand that kind of technical evidence.>|
The Jury By Race: 9 Blacks, 1 Hispanics, 2 Whites
|Mar-24-12|| ||Alien Math: America's health care reform through history | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...|
|Mar-24-12|| ||kb2ct: |
Are you familiar with I2P, the invisible internet project??
Thanks for the info on the free E-book reader that allows cut and paste.
Most textbooks do not allow cut and paste. I have to convert them to pdf
|Mar-24-12|| ||Softpaw: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012...|
<(Reuters) - The United States, European allies and even Israel generally agree on three things about Iran's nuclear program:
Tehran does not have a bomb, has not decided to build one, and is probably years away from having a deliverable nuclear warhead.>
|Mar-24-12|| ||chancho: <They wrestle around a bit. Martin pries himself loose a bit and kicks Zimmerman several times. Zimmerman feels very vulnerable on the ground now, feels his life is in danger--he pulls out his gun and shoots Martin.>|
The kid was screaming for help, while kicking Zimmerman?
Nice theory though.
|Mar-24-12|| ||Softpaw: <chancho: Nice theory though.>|
It wasn't a theory of what actually happened; it was a pure hypothetical.
|Mar-24-12|| ||chancho: <softpaw> I know!
At least let me poke some fun at your hypothetical. ;)
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