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|May-10-12|| ||FSR: <Troller> Good question, but the godsters think that The Lord doesn't like that sort of thing. (Of course, the percentage of gays among Roman Catholic priests is comparable to that in San Francisco, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homose..., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Fr..., but we're supposed to close our eyes to that.)|
|May-10-12|| ||FSR: <OhioChessFan: http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_new...|
<A hugely popular news story about a jilted dentist accused of pulling out all her ex-boyfriend's teeth has unraveled as a hoax.>>
Oh well. It's good that it didn't really happen.
|May-10-12|| ||PinnedPiece: Because of the Sukhoi pilot error, and the recent spate of crackpots with their lack of knowledge about airplane crashes or how hijacked airliners and their half-trained hijacker crew fly (imprecisely at best), it occurred to me that the last decade of flying in N. America has been relatively accident free: Two crashes from 2002 to date*, with one being the Miracle on the Hudson (the miracle principally being Sullenberger hit no bridges)**.|
In contrast to the last ten years, the decade before that saw 24 U.S. crashes with fatalities. Of course that includes the "U.S. government's hijacking of United and AA aircraft for the purpose of going to war." Otherwise it would only be 20 crashes.
Another contrast with U.S. carriers is the dismal Europe and Asia/Australia record for the last ten years. Including Monday's Indonesian crash, about 14 commercial flights have gone down with fatalities (itself a vast improvement from the previous 10 years 1992-2001 where 42 fatal crashes occurred in Europe and Asia).
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*Military aircraft excluded
**If you haven't seen this, a must: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imDF...
|May-10-12|| ||tpstar: <A hugely popular news story about a jilted dentist accused of pulling out all her ex-boyfriend's teeth has unraveled as a hoax.>|
Did they do a cavity search?
|May-10-12|| ||FSR: <PinnedPiece: ... **If you haven't seen this, a must: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imDF>...|
Are you really so naive as to think that the birds who disabled that plane's engines were acting alone?
|May-10-12|| ||PinnedPiece: <FSR> Heh.|
|May-10-12|| ||twinlark: <kb2ct>
Notwithstanding the conclusions of the investigators that examined the hard drives salvaged from the WTC and the stock trading in the days leading up to 9/11?
Trading software is glorified pattern recognition software that recognises these patterns a lot faster than most humans are capable. Your software wasn't "figuring" out anything, it was looking at movements of multiple stocks and securities at once to try to predict how the market was moving.
The movements of the key stocks under investigation were highly exaggerated and hard for even the simplest program to miss. No doubt the incredible (unprecedented?) spikes in trading volumes were reinforced by the bandwagon effect as the volumes of trading grew, but it was clear which stocks were subject to insider trading - a human activity - from the outset.
It's like saying that the bus passengers were responsible for the destination of the bus, and not the driver taking them there.
It sounds like you want nothing further to do with the discussion, and I can't say I blame you. But it does make me wonder why you raised the issue in the first place.
|May-10-12|| ||al wazir: This is what should have been done, not only with Lehman but also in Greece and especially in Ireland: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...|
All investment is associated with risk; an investment without risk is a contradiction in terms or an outright swindle. The prolonged agony of the Greek debt crisis isn't the result of a need to rescue the Euro or the Greek economy as much as it is the result of an effort to protect Greece's creditors from the consequences of risky investment.
|May-10-12|| ||PinnedPiece: <Tyrone Dale David Woodfork>|
Remember this name.
Call to AmLibs: We will eventually need to march together, with Obama and his Civil Rights Justice Department at the lead, marching to save this misunderstood and (we'll push for it!) "low IQ" man from the cruel and unusual Death Penalty.
Yes, Oklahoma has the death penalty, and Tyrone Dale David Woodfork qualifies.
He was caught driving around in their car...with evidence of his entry into the lives of Bob Strait and his wife, into their home. She was beaten and raped, and died after a horrific two days of remaining life. He was beaten, and eventually died late last week, at the hands of a man who looks like he could have been Obama's son....
Bob Strait was a courageous World War II veteran, one of America's finest sent to parachute into Europe to save France. But I have no doubt that France and the rest of the international community will condemn Oklahoma, and condemn the backward United States, and condemn the jury who will eventually condemn Tyrone Dale David Woodfork to death.
But look for a huge push from the Jesse Jackson's of the left to protect this cold-blooded rapist and murderer from justice. Obama's riffraff won't be far behind, claiming the injustice of the death penalty.
N.B. Only the right-wingnut Fox news appears to be following this story. All the "truly balanced" Main Stream Media in this country feel it is not worthy of your time. At least not quite yet....the gut-wrenching horror of his act has to die out first. Excuses have to be generated first. Racially-oriented Statistics must be given a certain amount of foreplay first.
|May-10-12|| ||King Death: So much for the "consensus" in the Bush administration on war with Iraq. Another lie busted! Go Republican war interests! Let's line their pockets some more and make the world safe!|
|May-10-12|| ||PinnedPiece: Obama Administration certainly likes to play fair, I will give them that much credit. When we score an important victory aginst those sworn to kill us all, they reveal all the details to them about how we did it. What governments were involved. When and where they were infiltrated. How the ruse was maintained. How their plot was busted.|
So after a magnificent infiltration and capture operation on the undetectable new bomb developed by Al Qaeda, an official in the Obama administration has spilled all the details, almost up to and including the name of the double agent involved.
Even NPR is a bit shocked.
<In the post-Sept. 11 world, even the most sensitive intelligence operations quickly become daily fodder as the 24-hour news cycle, the Internet and media-friendly politicians give the story momentum. And it's often senior government officials and the intelligence community who spread the juiciest details.>
But they get the implications all wrong.
No one in the actual intelligence operation revealed any of these details. They never would, and never did throughout 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006, when we did most of our important infiltration and decimation of the Al Qaeda leadership. So NPR is wrong in their implication.
And they miss the motive behind these revelations. It all comes out in the Mainstream news media's followup line: "These results are possible after Obama's actions two years ago to increase use of drones, and the focus on the Arabian peninsula."
Once again this administration is leaking information to specially selected media stenographers on condition Obama get the credit to buck up his terribly weak foreign policy/strong America resume.
And the Saudi special services must be thrilled to death at all the dumbass amateurish Obama Admin revelations.
|May-10-12|| ||King Death: < Check It Out: <JohnDahl: So flight manifests are not evidence for determining the identities of hijackers on those planes? Here's a clue....start with the Arabic-sounding names.>
No, a guy's name is not evidence.>
<JohnDahl> would've fit in right well back in British colonial days where on somebody's say so, he could persecute natives. Another place where he'd have made out was in the American South after the Civil War. He'd have had a field day with them uppity blacks especially when he got to put on a white robe.
|May-10-12|| ||PinnedPiece: <King Death: Let's line their pockets some more and make the world safe!>|
Did you catch Powell's understanding of why the issue was decided? For war profiteering, right? wrong.
How does the mind of a blinded liberal work? Someone writes a book with the line in it: "The NSC never held a serious meeting to discuss the facts of Hussein as a threat to the United States." The mind of the blinded liberal immediately leaps to:
"See how they lined their pockets with War Profits!!!?"
To my logical, chess-playing mind (ok, not so expert there), I like to see a few more links in the proposed line of play than, "See this pawn push on move 3??? Checkmate guaranteed on move 25!"
btw: There is not one shred of evidence that Bush personally benefited financially in any way shape of form from going to war---or any of his staff for that matter---which nevertheless is a bedrock basic premise of all such AmLib chains of reasoning.
|May-10-12|| ||diceman: <King Death:<JohnDahl>
Another place where he'd have made out was in the American South after the Civil War. He'd have had a field day with them uppity blacks especially when he got to put on a white robe.>|
Who knew Dhal was a democrat?
What part of the south was he from?
Was he lucky enough to know Sen. Robert Byrd?
Today folks like King Death have ghettos and slums for the black man.
(I know, he’s so kind and compassionate)
|May-10-12|| ||Colonel Mortimer: War is big business and a not insignificant component of the US economy - to ignore the motivation of that in favour of the phoney narrative of spreading freedom and democracy is to ignore the facts.|
|May-10-12|| ||King Death: <piPi> Bush didn't have to benefit but ask his boy Dick Cheney if he did, maybe you'll even get an honest answer as he counts up his filthy pieces of silver. Made dirty by the blood of good Americans.|
|May-10-12|| ||OhioChessFan: <KingDeath: <JohnDahl> would've fit in right well back in British colonial days where on somebody's say so, he could persecute natives. Another place where he'd have made out was in the American South after the Civil War. He'd have had a field day with them uppity blacks especially when he got to put on a white robe.>|
The original point under consideration was how the perpetrators were found so quickly. The obvious point raised was to check the passenger lists. Who would we be looking for? Well, a number of passengers referenced Arab hijackers in the phone calls to loved ones, so a good first step might be to look for Arab names. I must end on that note or I'll desend into rampant name calling.
|May-10-12|| ||diceman: <twinlark: The movements of the key stocks under investigation were highly exaggerated and hard for even the simplest program to miss.>|
Very compelling evidence twinlark!
(now hopefully you can sleep at night, someone has agreed with you)
< movements of the key stocks under investigation were highly exaggerated>
Hmmmmmmm, makes me wonder if the crash of 1987
was actually “level the trade center day?”
Reagan could have had some early Alzheimer’s and just forgotten to light the fuse?
(also explans how Bush could be a mastermind, Reagan gave him the plans)
|May-10-12|| ||OhioChessFan: <KingDeath: Bush didn't have to benefit but ask his boy Dick Cheney if he did, maybe you'll even get an honest answer as he counts up his filthy pieces of silver. Made dirty by the blood of good Americans.>|
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. How did that conversation go?
Cheney: Hey Dub, you know that when I became Veep, I had to cut loose a lot of investments.
Bush: Yes, and the country appreciates that sacrifice.
Cheney: Aw thanks, but you know, I could use a little of that money back. Why don't you do me a solid and kill some Americans as a pretext for a little war profiteering?
Bush: Well, you know I'm on board as a Christian. You've seen me in private and public reference what that means to me. I can't just go around killing people just to make money for a homeboy.
Cheney: Oh, come on. You know you can ask God to forigve you later. Just blame it on the Arabs. I really need you here, bro.
Bush: Well, let me pray on it tonight and I'll get back to you tomorrow.
Cheney: Thanks, Dub, you da man!
|May-10-12|| ||diceman: <PinnedPiece: He was caught driving around in their car...with evidence of his entry into the lives of Bob Strait and his wife, into their home. She was beaten and raped, and died after a horrific two days of remaining life. He was beaten, and eventually died late last week, at the hands of a man who looks like he could have been Obama's son.…>|
Did<Tyrone Dale David Woodfork> give a defense?
Maybe the Straits were murdered because of their homophobic name?
|May-10-12|| ||PinnedPiece: <OCF: Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. How did that conversation go? ......>|
[As I get up off the floor] I just cast my vote for this one as the top KR kibitz of the week.
Wouldn't it be fun to script an entire comedy along these lines. We have all the material we need for a top box office draw provided in raw form by kibitzers on these pages. (Wonder if we'd have to give them co-writing credits).
|May-10-12|| ||Jim Bartle: As I understand it, Cheney continued receiving large annual payments from Halliburton while Vice President, as part of his retirement package or something similar. I don't know if the amount was tied to the company's fortunes.|
|May-10-12|| ||OhioChessFan: <PiPi: Wouldn't it be fun to script an entire comedy along these lines.>|
Here's where satires usually go:
City of Moscow
The page has lost traction the last few years, but new entries are always welcome. I have an unfinished Kasparov parody that I should get to.
|May-10-12|| ||PinnedPiece: <JB: I don't know if the amount [of Cheney's remuneration from Halliburton] was tied to the company's fortunes.>|
We've been through this before, at least <FSR>* and I have. It turns out that the Cheneys donated any investment returns from Halliburton to charity. Look here:
(no one on ignore)
or search back to KR dates Sept 13 2011.
One of my comments there was how successful a smear is from the Democrats: It will never die, it seems, as long as at least one AmLib kibitzer remains to keep spreading it along.
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* Probably he was easily able to fight off the unfun facts.
|May-10-12|| ||kb2ct: |
You are right that I don't want to talk about it.
Isn't it disturbing that traders in the towers were shorting airline stock days before 9/11? and still came to work?
More of a massive disconnect than an insider trading conspiracy.
What did the computers know and when did they know it?? Why didn't traders sound an alert??
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