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May-11-12
 | | PinnedPiece: <JB: Cheney's compensation packages after leaving Halliburton,> I thought I had posted a response to your quite lengthy list of Cheney remunerations from 2000....but I don't see it. Why do you think his compensation package from Halliburton that was paid in 2000 is relevant? Why couldn't he get paid for a year of work before he became V.P.? <FSR> listed some things that were disputed in the first years of his tenure as VP, and got settled by a Congressional Research branch, but <Cheney did nothing intentionally wrong>. The record is clear that no deferred compensation that Halliburton agreed to pay Cheney, would have been affected by anything that happened to the company. It was a set amount that was distributed over several years so that it wouldn't be taxed all at once*. Similar in some ways to the way parents who only have a few years left pass off their fortunes to their kids---a little bit a year so the government doesn't take it all away. Commonly done. It is amazing how ordinary activities of Americans suddenly become huge scandals when the Democrats or the Liberal news outlets suddenly decide to scream out about Republicans doing them. The big deal with Cheney's compensation was made <a big deal ONLY WITH THE INTENT TO SMEAR HIM>. It wasn't done to correct a wrong, it wasn't done so that the government could get back into the black from unpaid taxes, it wasn't done as a means of hauling him into criminal court--IT WAS DONE AS A POLITICAL SMEAR. "CHENEY WAS PROFITING FROM HALLIBURTON CONTRACTS!!! " As though the Vice President awarded overseas construction contracts!! Or had anything to do with the GSA or whichever government department made the selection. Not even Stupid Biden has that power or authority in the Obama Govt. Just what is a political smear?
It is an attempt to use some fact real or imaginary about a political opponent to make people dislike him. <No other result is necessary.> Ethics charges? There were none. Criminal charges? There were none. What Cheney did was in fact not even as much in violation of our traditions in the United States as <Elena Kagan's refusal to recuse herself from voting as an appointed judge> on an issue that <she was the supervisor of during her tenure as Obama's solicitor general>. Here we have actual case of corrupt 3rd-world style strong-man type government. Obama appoints the person who oversaw the team that strategized the legality issues of Obamacare, then he appoints that strategizer to sit in judgement on the Constitutionality of that very same legislation. THAT is corrupted power on display. Dick Cheney is no example of that.
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| May-11-12 | | Jim Bartle: All I did was post what Cheney himself reported in his official filings. I didn't claim it reflected any corruption. He got a lot of money after leaving Halliburton to become VP. That's a fact. I'm not claiming that affected his political decisions. I'm pretty sure he would have been eager for war with Iraq in any case. |
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| May-11-12 | | diceman: <Jim Bartle: I didn't claim it reflected any corruption> Jim rarely claims anything.
<I'm not claiming that affected his political decisions.> See what I mean?
<He got a lot of money after leaving Halliburton to become VP. That's a fact.> Its about the seriousness of the charge, not the truth. <I'm pretty sure he would have been eager for war with Iraq in any case.> Now all we need is to discern the weight of <pretty sure> from one who rarely says anything or rarely claims anything? |
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May-11-12
 | | andrewjsacks: Hey, big brains. If you actually had them, you'd be too busy working for Obama's re-election than spinning wheels here. |
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May-11-12
 | | andrewjsacks: And, by the way, I thought this was a CHESS site. |
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May-11-12
 | | Tomlinsky: <andrewjsacks: And, by the way, I thought this was a CHESS site.> Yeah! CHESS R0X0RZ!!
- Available For Children's Parties, Bar Mitzvah, Public Executions, Vicar's Lunches, Cheerleader Reunions & Balloon Dancing - |
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| May-11-12 | | King Death: < andrewjsacks: And, by the way, I thought this was a CHESS site.> Seeing your post inspired me to go back in time, all the way to the very first page of Rogoffitzing. There was some chess but then it turned to Rogoff's views on economics and went over to the 2008 elections by page 2. The admins seem to be very happy having all of this off topic stuff confined to this page. |
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| May-11-12 | | diceman: < andrewjsacks: And, by the way, I thought this was a CHESS site.> Who knew?
I thought it was a political site, that has the games of great chess players. |
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May-11-12
 | | OhioChessFan: <JB: As usual, Rasmussen gives more support to Republicans than other polls. Others have it even or Obama a couple of points ahead. It's certainly a close race.> There's a strange consistency to the various polls. |
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May-11-12
 | | OhioChessFan: <FSR: I know; I realized a long time ago that the word is imprecise, but it's the only word there is for opposition to homosexuality. Maybe you should make up a new word.> I am not the biggest Limbaugh fan in the world, but one thing he says I am totally on board with: "Words mean things." See 1984 for a primer on what happens when people get imprecise with words. |
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May-11-12
 | | OhioChessFan: I am reminded of my favorite phobia:
aibohphobia-the fear of palindromes. |
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| May-11-12 | | diceman: <OhioChessFan:
I am not the biggest Limbaugh fan in the world>For the record, he doesn’t look like he could be Obama’s son. |
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| May-11-12 | | diceman: <OhioChessFan: I am reminded of my favorite phobia:
aibohphobia-the fear of palindromes.>
In the Arab world:
kaboomphobia-the fear of drones. |
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May-11-12
 | | WannaBe: Raise my taxes, see if I care. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/faceb... |
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| May-11-12 | | Jim Bartle: OhioChessFan: "aibohphobia-the fear of palindromes." ynnufunny |
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| May-11-12 | | King Death: <OCF> Here's one that you'll remember I'm sure. <FSR> threw this one out in a post a few weeks back: "doubleplusungood." |
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| May-11-12 | | diceman: <OhioChessFan: I am reminded of my favorite phobia:
aibohphobia-the fear of palindromes.>
Wasillaphobia-the fear of palinhomes |
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| May-11-12 | | diceman: <OhioChessFan: I am reminded of my favorite phobia:
aibohphobia-the fear of palindromes.>
Eastonassassinphobia-the fear of LarryHolmes |
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| May-11-12 | | Colonel Mortimer: "The real debate is not whether the US economy has socialist attributes, but choosing which form of socialism to employ." "No matter what they say about closeted communists in Congress or in the White House, Republicans - even the libertarians - heartily approve of socialism. The question in their view is about which way the money is flowing, up or down. If it's agribusiness or oil corporations getting bucks from federal subsidies, then money is going to the top. Hoorah for socialism. If it's single working mothers getting food stamps and housing credits, then money is going to the bottom. That's a damn government handout - we can't have that." http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op... |
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| May-11-12 | | I play the Fred: <<Col. Mort.>:Compare apples and pears if you like, but most people would be against 2 brothers marrying.> Why? Wouldn't they be consenting adults pursuing what makes them happy? Are you in league with <most people> on this score? If so, why do you have so much <hate> in your heart? Who are you to stand in the way of progress? |
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May-11-12
 | | patzer2: <King Death> <Seeing your post inspired me to go back in time, all the way to the very first page of Rogoffitzing. There was some chess but then it turned to Rogoff's views on economics and went over to the 2008 elections by page 2. The admins seem to be very happy having all of this off topic stuff confined to this page.> Speaking of Ken Rogoff as a former Chess Master and highly respected Professional Economist, it turns out he is not alone in that department. Tyler Cowen, who now holds a chaired position in Economics at George Mason University is also one of the most influential and widely published economists in the US, reached a rating of 2350 and at age 15 was the youngest ever New Jersey State Champion. He is the author of 15 books and over 60 academic articles. His recent book "The Great Stagnation" has showed up twice on the New York Times best seller list. At http://www.businessweek.com/magazin... is an interesting four page spread by businessweek about Cowen. At http://www.gmu.edu/centers/publicch... you can view Tyler's web page, and at http://marginalrevolution.com/ is his popular blog marginal revolution. P.S. Since we've been on the subject of phobias lately, some might be interested in reading Cowen's quick take at http://marginalrevolution.com/margi... on gelotophobia (the fear of being laughed at). |
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| May-11-12 | | Colonel Mortimer: <I play the Fred:> Yes |
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| May-11-12 | | cormier: nite nite ... |
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May-11-12
 | | al wazir: <Iran's Irna [sic] state news agency reported that Google had deleted the Persian Gulf's label from its maps service. Bahman Dori, a deputy in the country's ministry of culture and Islamic guidance, accused the organisation of spreading lies. [...] His comments have been echoed by other officials. Iranian media and blogs have devoted significant coverage to the issue and the country's internet users has taken to social networking websites such as Twitter and Facebook to offer their sentiments.> (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201...) This is so unbelievably dumb that it makes me wonder how the Iranians have managed to develop a nuclear industry and flummox everybody over it. When I go to http://maps.google.com/ and enter "Persian Gulf" in the search field, I get -- surprise! -- a map of the Persian Gulf. When I search on "Arabian Gulf" I get nothing. |
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| May-11-12 | | King Death: <al wazir> Reading that reminds me of how Soviet books and periodicals got edited to avoid any references to "non persons" like the "renegades" Alekhine or Bogolyubov. Then there's one of Stalin's henchmen that got the same treatment after his fall from grace (see the photos): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola... |
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