Why would Europeans/Scandinavians be important?

What about Australians?
What about the Irish?
What about Africa?

<Jim Bartle:>

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not "important". anyone who represents an outside, different view might be worth listening to for that exact reason: they offer a different pov than your own.

why is "our" view so different than yours? that's the interesting thing. that we're "european" or "scandinavian" is of little importance - in itself. the interesting part is how and why we see things differently.

Where’s the reciprocity, should they listen, learn from my ideas?

Do they have different responsibility’s?
Can a small country be a superpower?

Is a 20 year old single guy in America the same as a
married father of 4?

What should I learn form poor people in impoverished 3rd world countries?

Its pretty simple, you do things and they either work or they don’t.

President Obama's "Bush drove the car (i.e. economy) into the ditch" makes for good political rhetoric, but it's not objective or sound economic analysis. It's political stump speech demagougery with which few, if any, professional economists would agree.

Ken Rogoff says perhaps the best analysis of the current financial crisis is Rahuram Rajan's 2010 book "Fault Lines, How Hidden Fractures Still Threaten the World Economy." I would agree, and also suggest, that Reinhart and Rogoff's 2009 book, "This Time is Different" also offers an objective look at potential causes of the current financial crisis, demonstrating how it fits the pattern of previous similar financial crises (e.g. "The Big Five" since WWII which preceeded this one).

< you were challenged to explain why our views on what represents "capitalism", "socialism", "freedom" and so on are seemingly so different.>

I cant explain why our democrats think the way they do? I’m supposed to explain the rest of the world?
You’re taking about anything from political agendas to the constitution to stupidity and ignorance.
One guy saying this is how its done only happens in Obamacare.

What freedom is, is in our founding documents, if you remember we were Europe, we left Europe, were not Europe, Europe has kings and queens. Remember also, that we have both liberal and conservatives in America, our views aren’t even consistent within America, let alone the rest of the world.

<if you think europe is too small and irrelevant compared to the us, and that we can't possibly understand or relate to political ideologies that all came into existence in Europe>

Well we need to look at what we are talking about?
Should we examine China without looking at its population? You cant talk about countries in isolation.

<just try to answer my question(s) instead of resorting to evasive actions> What you call <evasive actions> comes from not understanding your question not understand what you are asking.

My response got this response from patzer2:
<patzer2: <Diceman> Good response to <Frogbert>. Enjoyed both of your comments, and the positive exchange about the insights of Scandinavians & Europeans.>

So I’m giving both <good> responses and <evasive> responses depending on which side of the fence you’re on.

The simple answer is someone’s wrong or someone has different responsibilities, needs. You cant only look at what’s being done, you have to look at if it works?

You cant say “this is how play chess” in isolation, at some point you need to look at game results.

Have you won a game.
Never won?
Why are you getting the results you’re getting?

Difference is ok if its working.
Fischer didn’t play like Tal, but both are legends.

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<diceman:>

Mike Valvo and I grew up in upstate NY in a small town called Guilderland Center. Though it is a suburb of Albany, we both played at the Schenectady chess club.

However, as I indicated earlier, historians, economists and the US electorate (e.g. in the upcoming Nov 2012 general election) will hold President Obama, who has been in office now for over three years, responsible for the economic and social policies (e.g. Obamacare, which the President touted as "reducing the deficit") he's implenented or tried to implement (e.g. cap and trade, higher taxes) in response to the crisis.

The question US voters will be asking is whether those response were appropriate and whether they leave us better off or worse off in the future (e.g. over the next four years beginning in Jan 2013).

The presumptive Presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, argues that while President Obama certainly didn't cause the economic crisis, he made it worse. He also argues that he has a better plan for addressing the current US economic problems. If recent polls, showing Romney with a small lead over Obama, are any indicator, he's finding a receptive audience among the US electorate.

diceman, you did. you wrote:

<Where’s the reciprocity, should they listen, learn from my ideas?>

but i didn't say you should <learn> anything from anybody else or their "ideas" - i challenged you to *explain* an observable difference.

<So I’m giving both <good> responses and <evasive> responses depending on which side of the fence you’re on.>

the relevant difference isn't "being on different sides" of any proverbial fence. the relevant difference is who asked the question; it was i, not patzer2. hence, i guess i'm in the better position to judge if your response answered my question or not.

in fact, you nearly seem to evade parts of your own, previous post! again, i did not imply or say that you're supposed to learn anything from europe, i simply challenged you to go into some <detail> about why *you* think it is that you and i (and several europeans with me) put different labels on the economic politics of the current us president - that is, if you *really* think "marxism" or "socialism" are accurate in any normal sense of the words. if you simply want to call the rhetorics off and say that obama first and foremost is a proponent of capitalism, then that's fine too.

<You seem to imply theres one way to do something?>

certainly not. i imply no such thing. i challenged you to reflect a little, maybe to put the demagogery and propaganda on hold for a brief moment and simply think aloud, in a way that possibly would demonstrate your capability of thinking out of your normal box.

unfortunately i don't think any voters anywhere are capable of doing such a rational analysis as you suggest. with anywhere i mean in any country anywhere in the world.