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Jun-29-12
 | | NakoSonorense: A friend of a friend said this on facebook:
<Obamacare is a great leap straight into socialism. People first came to this country to escape things like socialism, to create a free society where they could have religious, economic, and political freedom.> Another one said:
<MEXICO... Its sounding better everyday> Really? People came in 1620 to escape socialism? And do you really want to go to Mexico, a country that has a near universal health care system, because of Obama's ACA? Here's one more gem:
<This passing of obamacare is a sign that we are in the time prophesied of by Joseph Smith, when he said the constitution would hang as if by a thread. Now is the time more than ever for those of us who know what is right to stand up for it and not be afraid to. We stood our ground in our first estate, and it's time to do the same in our second.> |
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Jun-29-12
 | | NakoSonorense: <johnlspouge> Made do just sounds weird. I don't like it. |
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| Jun-29-12 | | Petrosianic: <Do people still believe Zeus forms thunderbolts or are we past that yet?> I don't believe Zeus forms thunderbolts, but I find your reasoning to be circular, and therefore fallacious. |
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Jun-29-12
 | | Poisonpawns: <Petrosianic> Nothing circular about it. Only two Separate questions, without conclusions and a statement. |
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Jun-29-12
 | | johnlspouge: < <kb2ct> wrote: "I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in. That's the America I love." — Mitt Romney >
< <Jim Bartle> wrote: Come on, kb2ct. That quote has to be from George W. Bush, not Romney. [snip] > I like this "Links, please?" trend.
<FSR> already verified <kb2ct>'s quote with a source from Mark Steyn, "conservative-leaning political commentator" [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_S... ], but here is the quote along with 9 others for your delectation: [ http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/... ] Wikipedia mentions that Steyn was born in Canada, however, so he is suspect as a truly conservative source. |
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Jun-29-12
 | | HeMateMe: its not the fact that its universal healthcare--its the QUALITY of the universal healthchare. |
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| Jun-29-12 | | cormier: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<Gospel> Jn 21:15-19> Jesus had revealed himself to his disciples
and, when they had finished breakfast, said to Simon Peter,
"Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?">
Simon Peter answered him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.">
Jesus said to him, "Feed my lambs.">
He then said to Simon Peter a second time,
"Simon, son of John, do you love me?">
Simon Peter answered him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.">
He said to him, "Tend my sheep.">
He said to him the third time,
"Simon, son of John, do you love me?">
Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time,
"Do you love me?" and he said to him,
"Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.">
Jesus said to him, "Feed my sheep.>
Amen, amen, I say to you, when you were younger,
you used to dress yourself and go where you wanted;
but when you grow old, you will stretch out your hands,
and someone else will dress you
and lead you where you do not want to go.">
He said this signifying by what kind of death he would glorify God.>
And when he had said this, he said to him, "Follow me."> |
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Jun-29-12
 | | patzer2: Stock markets rallied late yesterday, and continued today (Friday) on news that the European Union had agreed to a bail out plan for European banks. My own view, backed up by a lot of professional market pundit analysis, is that this is a temporary relief rally, and we'll soon be seeing the market nervous and turning down or flat again with concerns over global economic slow down, falling corporate earnings, falling commodity prices, threats of sovereign debt crises and election predictions/results. One interesting way to bet at least a small portion of a portfolio that today's optimism (e.g. stock and commodity prices rising 2% plus today) will soon wane, is by purchasing the VXX exchange traded index (based on the VIX index), which essentially measure the nervousness or volatility of the market based on prices those hedging stocks and commodities are paying for options (e.g. puts and calls). Currently, the VXX is near a three year low trading around $15.40, and several experts on this index, such as Thomas Kee, writing for the WSJ's "Market Watch" at http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ap..., thinks that a long position in VXX at these price "results in a 200% increase or more over the next handful of month." However, Kee emphasizes this is a risky investment -- "not for the faint of heart" -- and recommends only a small portion of a portfolio be invested in such a hedge. Still, it's an interesting play. I'm hedging my bets by selling puts at 13 to 15 strike prices while the index is trading around 15.40. The 15 puts for next Friday, 7 days away, are selling for 33 cents. If the index doesn't fall below 15 by then, that's a 2% gain for one week on the investment if the option expires worthless (i.e. the price of VXX stays above 15 through next Friday). If it does fall to 15 and I pick up the shares for about $14.70 a share, I think I'm owning the index at a great price (it got up to $56.84 when the market tanked last October) that could easily double in two to five months. However, investors should be wary that with renewed optimism and a strong bull market such an investment could tank and go the other way and stay low for a while. Also the VXX index fund will deteriorate over time, so it is definitely not something you want to buy and hold for a long period. P.S.: Of course you need to do your own research, and make your own decisions based on an informed look at your finances, and risk nothing you can't afford to lose. In other words, you're on your own if you decide to buy the VXX and I'm not responsible for if you lose money. |
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| Jun-29-12 | | Petrosianic: It doesn't matter if it's horrible, the important thing is that it's EQUAL... except of course to the few elites in Washington who deserve better. |
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Jun-29-12
 | | tpstar: <its not the fact that its universal healthcare--its the QUALITY of the universal healthchare> Unbelievable.
Obamacare will cut $500 Billion from Medicare over the next ten years. Use as much space as you need with as many links as you want to explain how that will improve the QUALITY of anyone's health care. You can tell my opinion already. |
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Jun-29-12
 | | Poisonpawns: <Petrosianic> Equality is a myth also :p |
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Jun-29-12
 | | patzer2: <tpstar> Doesn't Obama claim that by having his bureaucrats telling you as a Doctor and your patients what expensive care they don't need that the federal government will both "save money" and improve "quality of care?" P.S.: I wonder how long that $500 Billion "savings" will last after insurance rates soar, poor people get dinged with penalty "taxes," patients start to die from denied care and the word gets out to the public and their members of Congress that the ACA is not working as promised? |
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Jun-29-12
 | | Ziggurat: Surely conservatives should rejoice at Medicare cuts? Isn't it essentially a socialized medical scheme? |
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| Jun-29-12 | | Petrosianic: Election after election, one of the Democrats biggest talking points is "The other guys are plotting to cut Medicare". So, the fact that they've done it themselves is a major credibility problem. Of course, the idea is that they cut it and put the money somewhere even better, which would not be bad, if the country as a whole didn't still strongly oppose Obamacare. They don't believe it is somewhere better, so the fact that it's a Medicare cut is still a problem for them. |
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Jun-29-12
 | | al wazir: @<patzer2> (and any other day traders at this site): When asked "what will the stock market do?" J. P. Morgan is reported to have said, "It will fluctuate." (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/J._P._...) |
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| Jun-29-12 | | cormier: nite ... |
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| Jun-29-12 | | cormier: <<<<The Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem> on Friday became the first World Heritage Site to be listed under the name of Palestine.> Its approval, by a 13 to 6 vote with two abstentions, marks the second victory in less than a year for the Palestinian Authority’s pursuit of unilateral statehood at the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization.>
The vote, which was held by a secret ballot, gives an emotional boost to the Palestinian drive to eventually be recognized unilaterally as a member state of the United Nations.> |
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Jun-29-12
 | | patzer2: <al wazir> Good joke! I like the line from Trading Places by Eddie Murphy in reference to brokers (e.g. commodities brokers in this case) in which Billy Valentine (Murphy) says "Sounds to Me Like You Guys are a Couple of Bookies." For those interested in a limited risk strategy with the VXX, Jim Cramer's "The Street" has an excellent article by Matthew Buckley at http://www.thestreet.com/story/1160.... Buckley says the analysis of his firm (Top Gun Options) suggests "the VXX index is not very likely to go below $15." But to hedge the bet, they're suggesting a strategy of selling the July 15 puts and buying the July 14 puts. My current open position now is on a sale of July 14 put options. Like "Top Gun Options" I too am making an educated guess that the recent drop in VXX (it's acted like a "falling knife" over the past several months/days) stalls at 15. I'll probably sell more puts once we get past the July 4th Holiday, and get some sign the euphoria over the European Union's bank bail out is over, stocks start leveling off or trending lower, and the VIX/VXX starts going up. For those interested in studying the VXX, which is near a three year low and poised for a possible 200% gain over the next five months, the VXX tends to trail the VIX, tends to move inversely to stock prices, and is not suitable for a long term holding due to deterioration. As http://sixfigureinvesting.com/2010/... observes, <...buying non-leveraged volatility ETNs like VXX, is not as twitchy, but be aware that the VXX will definitely lag the VIX index (think molasses), and it is also not suitable as a long term holding because the people in the VXX shop are forced to continually shift from short term to longer term futures contracts, usually at unfavorable rates. This drag due to rolling the futures can extract 10% to 15% a month out of VXX’s price.> |
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Jun-29-12
 | | PinnedPiece: New taxes from Obamacare regulations:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern... Just what we needed to kick in now, with an economy struggling on the verge of a double dip recession....which VP Biden called a depression a few days ago. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...
This after he and countless other high profile Dummycrats announced the recovery was fully under way and it was all Obama's. http://www.politico.com/news/storie... Talk about a kick in the teeth.
Talk about teeth, won't the Dems be lying through them now.....as they continue to try to make you and me believe the Biden Depression is all Bush's fault. For the Modern Amoral Liberal, lies no longer matter. Its the promise of what I get from the government that counts. <FSR> has spent all day claiming how wonderful the government is in giving him all kinds of goodies. If a perfectly intelligent, sane and rational family man can make those claims, there isn't any way the poor and uneducated have a chance fending off the Democrat lies. . |
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Jun-29-12
 | | OhioChessFan: <psmith: <OhioChessFan>: So, you think <FSR>s daughter should die... when, exactly?> It's my experience that when someone starts a comment with "so you think", there's a good chance that what follows will be a deliberate misrepresentation of the other person's position. |
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Jun-29-12
 | | OhioChessFan: <micartouse: I look forward to seeing how the health care industry reshapes - hopefully in a positive way.> Hopefully, people in hell will get ice water. |
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Jun-29-12
 | | kb2ct: Justice Roberts being uninsurable because of pre-existing conditions might actually cost Obama the elettion. Both sides are lying about the effect of ObamaCare, but a lot of Americans don't even like the illusion that they are being forced to do something whether it be motorcycle helmets or health care. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politi... :0)
Both sides are lying |
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| Jun-29-12 | | quantum.conscious: <Poisonpawns: <Petrosianic> Nothing circular about it. Only two Separate questions, without conclusions and a statement.> <poisonpawns>, you came to party late. your question is if the miracles jesus is supposed to have performed are real or just myth. it would lead to a more general question - are miracles possible? science can not answer this question conclusively. physicist leonard mladinow says , "science does not and can not prove god is an illusion" in short , if you want to know the reality of god and miracles , logical mind is an inadequate tool. the way is to 'use mind to transcend mind' . i don't know if you understand what i am saying. more importantly i am sceptical that you are a true sceptic. most likely you are someone who has spent years honing the part of your 'self' that deals with logical reasoning and you are very good at it by now like many people on this page. your identity is rooted in that 'self' . however, that part of your 'self' is not going to help you in answering the questions about god and miracles and you are happy just to expose the absurdities of religion using your well developed logical mind instead of finding reality. |
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Jun-29-12
 | | FSR: Some lovely photos of Tea Partiers in action: http://samuel-warde.com/2012/06/tea... |
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Jun-29-12
 | | FSR: Jon Stewart on Mitt Romney's position on Obamacare: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/0... |
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