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|Jul-12-12|| ||diceman: <Chicago police sergeant: "Tribal warfare" on the streets|
(CBS News) CHICAGO - Chicago is in the grips of a deadly gang war. At least 275 people have been killed in the city so far this year>
How many looked like they could be Obama’s son?
Odd he didn’t tell us?
I guess CSI Peru is on summer hiatus?
<and many more have been shot, many of them innocent bystanders to the gang violence. Among the latest victims were 12- and 13-year-old girls shot Tuesday night.>
Sounds like we need:
Obama KevlarVest Care
<The victims include 7-year old Heaven Sutton, shot to death selling candy outside her house.>
What was she doing selling candy?
Another victim of capitalism.
Shame Obama couldn’t implement a Candy Stamp program.
(should come in under 500 billion $)
She could have been safe and secure in her roach infested slum tenement,
“owned” and free from the burdens of education, work, achievement.
|Jul-12-12|| ||Jim Bartle: diceman, June 27: "Johnson gave the black man the ghetto."|
I assume you won't correct yourself, but at least everyone else knows you lied.
|Jul-12-12|| ||kb2ct: |
The blacks moving north before and after the Civil War were essentially immigrants and as such clustered together.
Romney has little chance of winning without the so called minority vote, but hispanics, blacks, and women don't like him much and for good reason.
|Jul-12-12|| ||Marmot PFL: <Texas justice: Grandmother duped by sweet-talker faces life without parole for drug smuggling. >|
Most likely she was threatened with harm to her grandchildren if she squealed, which is about the only way out in a conspiracy case.
|Jul-12-12|| ||Marmot PFL: <Mob media may call it a success story for some reason, it looks like nothing but kicking the can down the road in a soviet to me.>|
It's all relative. Iceland is way better off than the PIIGs, and compared to the US has lower unemployment, less inequality and easier time reaching a political consensus.
|Jul-12-12|| ||cormier: -112 to elections winner ... tks G|
|Jul-12-12|| ||cormier: <<<<<<<<<<<<European Parliament Condemns China's Forced Abortions>|
Called Flagrant Violation of Human Rights>
ROME, JULY 11, 2012 (Zenit.org).-> The European Parliament approved last week a resolution condemning the practice of forced abortions and sterilizations in China. The resolution made explicit reference to the kidnapping of a Chinese woman named Feng Jianmei who was in her seventh month of pregnancy and forced to abort the baby.>
According to a report published June 3, Feng Jianmei was beaten and dragged to a vehicle of "family planning officials," while her husband, Deng Jiyuan, was away at work. The officials also asked Feng’s family to pay a ¥40,000 fine. Not having received the amount, they forced abortion, placing the dead baby next to her on the bed. Feng then underwent medical treatment in a nearby village.>
It is estimated that about 13 million children are aborted in China every year since the one-child policy was introduced in China in 1979.>
The NGO that has helped to carry out this policy especially in China is United Nations Population Fund. Grants to the latter and to other NGOs come from the United States and from the European Union, who now reacted to the policy with the resolution.>
“We condemn the increase of coercive abortions in China because it is a flagrant violation of human rights,” said parliamentarian Alojz Peterle, who negotiated the final text. “This is an unacceptable practice for the European Parliament.”>
The resolution encourages the European Commission to reconsider its grants to projects in China to ensure that no European funds are allocated to coercive reproductive health programs and policies as has happened to date.>
During the debate on this resolution, Peterle said: “European contributors must know where their money goes: the Commission must proceed to large-scale investigation of the organizations and programs that receive funds for purposes of reproductive health and family planning.”>
The resolution stresses the right of all women to access public health and suggests that family planning should be about choosing the number and spacing of children. The resolution also stresses the lack of gender balance created by the one-child policy in China.>
The question of forced abortions is expected be debated in the forthcoming meeting on human rights between the European Union and China.>
|Jul-12-12|| ||OhioChessFan: <kb2: Romney has little chance of winning without the so called minority vote, but hispanics, blacks, and women don't like him much and for good reason.>|
Of course, he doesn't think it's a good idea to continue pandering to them for votes, offering the blacks more and more largesse from the government coffers so they can continue to live in squalor in the ghetto, and he doesn't think it's a good idea to let the losers from Mexico into this country illegaly, and he doesn't think it's a good idea for a country to allow women to use abortion as a contraceptive option. I can really live with a candidate not wanting those votes.
|Jul-12-12|| ||Jim Bartle: OCF, every political candidate, left, right or center, panders in one way or another, to different groups. Of course Romney attempted to "pander" somewhat to blacks with his NAACP speech, meaning he tried to win their votes or at least get them to think about it. |
But he stuck to his guns, and stated some of his policies which were not popular with the NAACP, and got booed for it. So he avoided pandering at those points.
But if Obama and the left do pander to minorities, then Romney most certainly panders to the wealthy and powerful.
|Jul-12-12|| ||I play the Fred: <but hispanics, blacks, and women don't <like> him much and for good reason.>|
This is very, very important. Likability is essential. In fact, we ought to be nominating morning show hosts from now on.
Cult of personality, baby.
|Jul-12-12|| ||Petrosianic: <But if Obama and the left do pander to minorities, then Romney most certainly panders to the wealthy and powerful.>|
We might be using the word "pander" differently. Pandering doesn't meant just trying to win votes, it means doing it with meaningless gestures. Clinton promising the Jewish Coalition that he'd open a kosher kitchen in the White House if elected was pandering. It didn't happen, was never a serious promise anyway, and was only said to make the audience feel good. Nothing to do with public policy. Genuinely pursuing policies that a constituency wants isn't pandering.
However, pretending to pursue such policies is pandering. The Republicans are always promising to abolilsh abortion, and the Democrats are always promising to abolish the Rich. We know they don't mean it because they don't even try to do it when they have the chance. There's no guarantee that a Republican Supreme Court nominee will vote to overturn Roe, and for all their talk of wanting tax hikes on the Rich, the Democrats didn't lift a finger to do it when they had the super-majority. They don't want to raise taxes on themselves, only to be able to claim that they do.
|Jul-12-12|| ||micartouse: <I play the Fred> You're facetious, but likability is crucial as a strategic nominating criterion, and is always balanced with the issues. Pick the guy single women would most want to date.|
And likability is probably a bad thing. Which would you rather have them saying about you the Sunday before election day - that you are a corrupt, ideological fascist or a nice guy? I would prefer the former since the latter guy is losing.
It's about the confidence and charisma and bad boy appeal. Romney is too "nice" - Obama is going to win again because of that cocky swagger.
|Jul-12-12|| ||galdur: Demographic Time Bomb in Pictures and Dollar Amounts; Ratio of Social Security Beneficiaries to Private Employment Now Exceeds 50%|
As of 2012-06 the civilian labor force was 155,163,000
As of 2012-06 there were 111,145,000 in the private workforce
As of 2012-06 there were 56,174,538 collecting some form of SS or disability benefit
Ratio of SS beneficiaries to private employment just passed the 50% mark (50.54%)
|Jul-12-12|| ||hedgeh0g: <Of course, he doesn't think it's a good idea to continue pandering to them for votes, offering the blacks more and more largesse from the government coffers so they can continue to live in squalor in the ghetto, and he doesn't think it's a good idea to let the losers from Mexico into this country illegaly, and he doesn't think it's a good idea for a country to allow women to use abortion as a contraceptive option. I can really live with a candidate not wanting those votes.>|
I'm glad you know what his positions are, since nobody else does.
|Jul-12-12|| ||OhioChessFan: <hedgehog: I'm glad you know what his positions are, since nobody else does.>|
I recognize a degree of truth in that. It's hard to believe with the economic mess we're in that he's having a hard time in polls against the incumbent. "Things are bad, vote for me" probably isn't good enough.
|Jul-12-12|| ||hedgeh0g: <OCF> That suggests to me that people just don't buy what the guy's selling. Romney's opponents have done a good job of painting him as an out-of-touch tycoon and it doesn't help matters that he comes across as somewhat insincere.|
That's not to say that Obama hasn't flip-flopped on a number of issues himself, but I don't think anyone believes Romney is the conservative he makes himself out to be. His character and political career suggest he's more of a pragmatist when it comes to policymaking.
|Jul-12-12|| ||Jim Bartle: There's an excellent column by John Cassidy at the New Yorker website on just that subject, Romney's difficulties in presenting an economic plan and taking advantage of Obama's weakness on the economic front.|
One interesting point is that the economists on Romney's team are moderate conservatives, not flaming right-wingers, so Romney's specific economic plan, when it does come out, will not be extreme enough for much of the Republican base.
|Jul-12-12|| ||kb2ct: |
Minorities outnumber bigots.
|Jul-12-12|| ||Marmot PFL: <galdur> Yes, we have higher technology, as usual. This has happened since the agricultural, and industrial revolutions (compare either one to say, 1850). If methods improve so that 4 people can do what 8 used to do, it doesn't make the other 4 superfluous. It just means they can do something else that the economy demands.|
Likewise with money expansion. It doesn't force anyone into debt, it just makes cash more available, lowering demand for it relative to riskier but potentially higher returning investments (like stocks or bonds).
|Jul-12-12|| ||cormier: nite ...|
|Jul-12-12|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <kb2ct:
Minorities outnumber bigots.>
Except on planet <Ohio> where bigotry rules by a single majority.
|Jul-13-12|| ||FSR: Mitt Romney, world champion flip-flopper: http://www.upworthy.com/everything-...|
|Jul-13-12|| ||HeMateMe: <galdur: Demographic Time Bomb in Pictures and Dollar Amounts; Ratio of Social Security Beneficiaries to Private Employment Now Exceeds 50%>|
Completely harmless. Full benefit SS has been raised to age 67 here. There is a strong incentive in place to get people to wait until age 70 before beginning to claim benefits. You can get around 40% more per year, just by waiting those three years.
The actuaries have it figured out. If the age to collect anything at all has to be raised, say, to age 65, then thats how it will be. I think right now you can begin collecting SS at age 62, but your monthly check can double if you wait until age 70.
|Jul-13-12|| ||al wazir: When Social Security was first enacted in the U.S., three quarters of a century ago, life expectancy was less than 60 years (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/n...). The average worker could not expect to live long enough to collect a pension!|
That suggests a strategy for attacking the widely discussed Social Security solvency problem. Now that life expectancies have risen to almost 80 years, we raise the age for collecting benefits from 65 to 85.
|Jul-13-12|| ||NakoSonorense: <Problem solved.>
Temporarily. Let's raise the age to 100 so that in the year 2089 we don't have to go through the same problems again.
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