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|Jan-23-08|| ||norami: Is it true that the only difference between Serbian and Croatian is religion? If you're Catholic, you're Croatian. If you're Orthodox, you're Serbian.|
|Sep-01-08|| ||myschkin: . . .
"Ivan Ivanisevic wins 2008 Serbian Championship"
|Oct-22-08|| ||KOCMOHAYT: <norami: Is it true that the only difference between Serbian and Croatian is religion? If you're Catholic, you're Croatian. If you're Orthodox, you're Serbian.>|
Not quite, but it is hard to distinguish by name. I am a Croat, and someone with name Ivan ivanišević could easily be Croatian.Serbs have their own culture and history which is differnt from croatian. but it is worth saying that two nations felt ( and some individuals still feel) a strong sentiment of brotherhood and unity which (un)fortunatly didnt end in the creation of new (yugoslav) nation. so unlike protestant prussians and catholic bavarians that united into germany, catholic croats and ortodox serbs live in two separate states. Why? dont ask. maybe is better that way.
|Oct-22-08|| ||Resignation Trap: <norami> and <KOCMOHAYT> There are other differences. Serbians and Croats speak basically the same language, but Serbians prefer to use the cyrillic alphabet (which is similar to Russian), while Croats use a roman alphabet (much like English).|
|Oct-23-08|| ||KOCMOHAYT: <Resignation Trap> I know, as i said i'm croatian. lands that comprise serbia today were for centuries (mostly) part of ottoman empire (Turkey), whereas croatia was part of Habsburg empire (Austria). Hence the majority of difference. Before being part of larger foreign dominated empires, both countries had their respective medieval kingdoms. Serbia at one point was a major european power. The countries and peoples where friendly for centuries with croatian king Tomislav helping serbian against bulgarians, other masters against turks, and many serbs and croats being proud of being at the same time of serbian and croatian heritage (Ivo Andrić, Nikola Tesla, Branko Katić, Brankat :-)). However things generaly worsend when the two tried to become one. And failed...|
|Oct-23-08|| ||brankat: <KOCMOHAYT> <...and many serbs and croats being proud of being at the same time of serbian and croatian heritage (Ivo Andrić, Nikola Tesla, Branko Katić, Brankat :-))>|
It is an honour and privilege to be mentioned in the same sentence with Nikola Tesla :-)
Seriously, I do thank You for Your well balanced and fairly expressed thoughts.
Unfortunately, back in the old country everybody lost. Which was easily predictable. I think it was Sir Winston Churchill who remarked something like: "Those involved in the quarrels of their Past, will have found out that they have lost their Future."
Perhaps some other time things will work out better.
P.S. Visit my forum sometime.
|Nov-05-08|| ||jovack: <norami: Is it true that the only difference between Serbian and Croatian is religion? If you're Catholic, you're Croatian. If you're Orthodox, you're Serbian.>|
lol, quite oversimplified
i would say it is akin to the difference of being canadian vs american
similar, yet distinct -- minus the extreme animosity that still prevails with some people (unfortunately)
funny how anything balkan related always gets people talking about serbian v croatian haha
|Nov-23-08|| ||brankat: Happy Birthday Ivan!|
|Apr-09-09|| ||Appaz: Ivan "Carlsen-killer" Ivanisevic is mopping the board with everyone else in the Serbian Ch.: 6.5/7 of 13 rounds and ĺ two-point lead.|
|Apr-12-09|| ||praddy06: 8.5/9 he is still continuing his amazing run but missed a perfect score in a tournament...which last happened in 1978|
|Apr-13-09|| ||praddy06: .
Ivan Ivanisevic...still continuing his winning spree after 11 rounds
10/11 alone in the top.....
total domination and winning the tournament with 3 rounds to go
for live games
|Apr-13-09|| ||Dredge Rivers: Do they call him Ivan Ivan for short?|
|Apr-14-09|| ||Appaz: ...and that was 11 points in 12 rounds: 2571 rated Igor Miladinovic went down in 39 moves.|
|Apr-15-09|| ||Appaz: After a fighting draw in the last round, Ivanisevic finished with 11.5 of 13, a +10 score!|
Even if he was the highest rated player at 2649, he still had to face 5 players at 2550+ and and six more at 2450+.
|Apr-16-09|| ||hand banana: what a great performance by ivanisevic..
30 rating points up after this one, back to 2650+.
and a very, very respectable 2844 rating performance.
|Apr-17-09|| ||Raisin Death Ray: I had a mailman named Ivan once. Is this him?|
|May-10-09|| ||Appaz: <<Raisin Death Ray> If he looks slightly like you, it is probably him.|
|Nov-23-10|| ||brankat: Happy Birthday GM Ivanisevic!|
|Jan-22-11|| ||Eastfrisian: With a peak rate of 2664 "only" an IM, Hm.?|
|Nov-05-11|| ||Korifej: Today Ivan help Serbia to win vs Turkey 4-0.|
|Nov-05-11|| ||Korifej: I hope Netherland is next:)|
|Nov-23-11|| ||brankat: Best wishes for Your Birthday!|
|Oct-26-14|| ||Penguincw: Congratz to Ivan Ivanisevic for winning the Chigorin Memorial. Entering the tournament, he was the 10th seed, but edged out 13th seed Ivan Bukavshin ( :| ) on tiebreaks 54.5-51.5. Their individual encounter was the last round, but Ivan drew Ivan (Ivan had white).* Both players finished 7.5/9 (+6,-0,=3). He also gained 17.7 rating points and had a TPR of 2772.|
* Ivanisevic had white. :)
|Jun-11-16|| ||Penguincw: Congrats to Ivan Ivanisevic for winning the Zalakaros Chess Festival with a score of 7/9 (+5,-0,=4). He finished in sole first. He entered the tournament as the 3rd seed.|
Ivanisevic also gained 13.4 points (now up to 2656.4) and is now #96 on the live rankings after rising 24 positions.
|Nov-23-16|| ||diagonal: <Ivan Ivanisevic> is twice winner at the traditional Kostic Memorial, a pretty strong series of international invitation tournaments:|
Borislav Kostic (1887 - 1963) was born in Vrsac and the first serbian grandmaster, awarded in 1950 on its inaugural list of only 27 players.
The 1st Kostic Memorial has been held in 1964, the 17th (and last to-date) in 2012, mostly in a two years cycle, with a longer break, all played in Vrsac.
<Milan Matulovic> won the inaugural edition of the Kostic Memorial in 1964. Brazilian prodigy <Henrique Mecking> won ahead of <Lajos Portisch> in 1971, <Michael Stean> won at Vrsac in 1979. <James Tarjan>, <Georgy Agzamov>, and <Predrag Nikolic> shared for first in 1983. <Dmitry Svetushkin> won the 17th edition in 2012 outright and convincingly.
The most prominent participant at Vrsac was former World Chess Champion <Tigran Petrosian> in 1981 (won by <Gyula Sax> ahead of <Jan Smejkal> who won it in 1977).
Tournament record winners at Vrsac, Kostic Memorial, are <Dragoljub Velimirovic> (in 1985, and 1987 shared with <Jaan Ehlvest>) and <Ivan Ivanisevic> (2006, and 2010 shared with <Aleksandar Kovacevic>), both with two tournament wins each.
What an elegant tournament homepage!
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