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|Dec-11-18|| ||saffuna: <You can't bunt everyone in; games are won by deep ball hitters.>|
And runners on base to be driven in.
"Hitting to the right side" is basically the same as a bunt.
|Dec-11-18|| ||WannaBe: Hehehe.... ESPN 30 for 30 is showing B. Douglas v. M. Tyson, and the title of the show is the odds of the fight, 42-1|
|Dec-11-18|| ||WannaBe: City of Oakland have filed a suit:
Not sure if that is one law firm or two, or three, but they are working on contingency, and will not be paid unless City of Oakland wins.
|Dec-11-18|| ||OhioChessFan: Among other things, it was a total disaster for Gronk to allow the ball carrier to get outside of him. He didn't need to make a play. He just needed to keep the runner inside of him. But I suppose offensive players aren't used to that sort of thing.|
|Dec-12-18|| ||perfidious: <saffuna...The most famous Johnson brothers I know of were decathlete Rafer and Niners DB Jim, who played through the 1960s.>|
Never knew that.
|Dec-12-18|| ||saffuna: Just a little 49ers reminiscing...
Starting in 1961 the Niners had Jimmy Johnson at one corner, and nobody ever thought about him. He was there, nothing was changing.
On the other side there was great concern, even pre-Internet. First Abe Woodson, a great kick returner but not a great DB, traded in 64 for John David Crow. Then Kermit Alexander from UCLA, who was pretty good but always a worry. And then Bruce Taylor, first round pick from Boston U, sometimes good, sometimes not so good. Roger Staubach picked on all of them except Johnson.
|Dec-12-18|| ||perfidious: <saffuna...In "Moneyball" (Billy) Beane thought striking out a lot was a bad mark against a player, but I don't get that. Number of times on base, plus hitting for power, is what counts.>|
At the major league level, Beane struck out in 27 per cent of his 301 ABs over parts of six seasons, the only thing he did at all well.
|Dec-12-18|| ||saffuna: In the book, Beane said he just didn't have the mental makeup to be a big league hitter.|
|Dec-12-18|| ||perfidious: That is far from the easiest thing to do in sports.|
Just ask Michael Jordan.
|Dec-12-18|| ||saffuna: Ted Williams and Sam Snead were arguing what the hardest thing to do in sports is.|
Williams: Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing. Three times out of ten is considered successful.
Snead: Yeah, but you don't have to go play your foul balls.
|Dec-12-18|| ||plang: Phillies signing McCutchen for 3 years and $50 million is a head scratcher.|
His numbers last year were OK but he is way past his peak.
|Dec-12-18|| ||saffuna: Yes, strange. McCutchen has been an outstanding player, a Baines- or plus-Baines player, but he's not that player any more.|
The story of how he became a major leaguer is an interesting. A man took an interest in him when he was young, when his family had little money, and paid for his playing on travel teams, got him equipment, etc.
|Dec-12-18|| ||keypusher: <OhioChessFan: Among other things, it was a total disaster for Gronk to allow the ball carrier to get outside of him. He didn't need to make a play. He just needed to keep the runner inside of him. But I suppose offensive players aren't used to that sort of thing.>|
Last time I'll write about this play...who am I kidding, I'll probably write a hundred more posts about it. Dolphins fans don't get these kinds of moments too often.
Ted Larsen, who had a key block on Patrick Chung waaaay down the field, is a guard, not a center like I said. But he really does weigh 323 pounds. The funny thing is, he said that for the players the entire goal of the play is not to be the guy who goes down with the ball. He was looking for someone to block so that no one would lateral to him!
Amendola couldn't quite figure out what to do downfield, understandably, since after the first two laterals everyone was on his own. Drake looked like he was going to pitch it to him, then he saw Adam Butler (#70) closing in from behind, so he took off down the field, Larsen sealed off Chung, Gronk stumbled and the rest is history. If Butler hadn't hustled so hard, Miami might not have scored....
Killebrew led the league in strikeouts once, in walks four times, in home runs six times.
Strikeouts, like passing yards in NFL, are a contextual stat; what used to be a big total is now rather modest. Babe Ruth had nearly twice as many strikeouts as home runs (1330), and when he retired in 1935 I believe he was about as far ahead of everyone else in Ks as he was in HRs. He's now 128th in career strikeouts and dropping like a rock.
In fact, I've seen people on the internet look at career strikeouts and argue that Ruth was a really disciplined hitter, not like those lazy free-swinging sluggers of today. Well, here's what the Sporting News had to say about that while Ruth was playing:
<As a batter, Ruth is an accident. He never plays inside baseball at the plate. He goes up trying to take a swing on every strike, a style that would cause any other player to be benched. He either knocks home runs or strikes out. Any man who strikes out as many times as Ruth did last year  can never be classified as a great hitter.>
(In 1921, Ruth had 81 strikeouts and 59 homers. He also had 58 singles, 44 doubles, 16 triples, and 145 walks. So ease up on the hyperbole, <TSN>.)
Incidentally, let me put in a plug for that website, goldenrankings.com. God knows what it's about, stylistically it makes cg.com looking cutting edge. But it has a lot of fascinating stuff about old-time baseball and football, including articles about all the NFL championships and interesting accounts of key baseball games. Jim, you might like the link below.
|Dec-12-18|| ||saffuna: <Ted Larsen, who had a key block on Patrick Chung waaaay down the field, is a guard, not a center like I said. But he really does weigh 323 pounds. The funny thing is, he said that for the players the entire goal of the play is not to be the guy who goes down with the ball. He was looking for someone to block so that no one would lateral to him!>|
Again, what about the Pats' #31? First, instead of waiting and hitting Stills (?) after he catches the ball, he goes to knock the pass down or intercept it. Then, he never shows up in the play again, even though it takes a long time. Apparently he never got up and got in the play again.
|Dec-12-18|| ||saffuna: <kp> That was back in the time when there were real pennant races...|
I listened to most of that game on a transistor radio during after-school football practice. We couldn't believe Williams was walking one batter after another in the ninth.
I don't remember if that game was even on TV around SF. I don't think so.
|Dec-12-18|| ||saffuna: I've never heard of it before. I was searching for the big story on McCutchen. I don't think that was it.|
|Dec-12-18|| ||keypusher: Jim, what the hell are you doing linking to the Daily Signal for? Next you'll be quoting Limbaugh.|
In all seriousness, though, if you want to know why American blacks have become so rare in major league baseball, look no further:
<That’s when others stepped in. When Andrew was given the opportunity to compete at a higher level but lacked the financial resources to afford a travel baseball league, a coach named Jimmy Rutland offered to help.
“Lo and Trina saw Andrew’s love for the game, they saw this man willing to give them a hand, they remembered the pact they’d made,” Chen writes. “They decided, OK, let’s make this work.”
In the years that followed, Trina sold spaghetti dinners for $5.50 a pop to pay for Andrew’s baseball tournaments. The community came together to raise $5,000 to send Andrew to Puerto Rico to play ball.>
|Dec-12-18|| ||saffuna: That was the main point of the story, as I remember it. You need money to become a major leaguer in the USA.|
So how many potential McCutchens never got the chance.
|Dec-12-18|| ||Bobsterman3000: <saffuna: I remember it was a big deal when Alex Johnson refused to celebrate, or be congratulated, after hitting a home run. He just said, "That's my job," didn't think it was anything special.>|
Barry Sanders never celebrated anything.
After some prodding from teammates he pumped his fist after a TD once then said afterwards that he didn't enjoy it at all.
|Dec-12-18|| ||perfidious: Sanders was the goods.
Pity he walked away from the game, but at least he preserved his body and mind. Good for him.
|Dec-12-18|| ||saffuna: <Barry Sanders never celebrated anything. >|
Yeah, but he let others congratulate him. Alex Johnson didn't.
|Dec-12-18|| ||HeMateMe: pretty hot game, Thursday. Chargers v. Chiefs, they both have great records, 10 and 11 wins. The division is up for grabs. I'm used to seeing the Chargers blow it late in the season, but you never know.|
|Dec-13-18|| ||plang: Unfortunately, even if the Chargers win tonight the odds are against them as the Chiefs own the tie-breaker.|
|Dec-13-18|| ||plang: Pretty impressive back to back for the Raptors - blow-out road wins against the Clippers and Warriors with Leonard not playing in either of them.|
|Dec-13-18|| ||HeMateMe: Warriors looked ordinary the other night. Curry looked average, Klay Thompson not that sharp. Green shot off his big mouth and got T'd up two minutes into the game. I think the Warriors will dump him in a year or two, especially if Kevin Durant is basing his staying on Draymond Green's behavior.|
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