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|Oct-07-15|| ||unferth: I'm no fan of expanded baseball playoffs in any form & would be happy to see the wild card and division series go away entirely, but I don't really get the objection to the single-game format. one-game playoffs are inherently dramatic, and it isn't as though expanding to best of three (or five, or seven) would do much to convincingly establish which is the better team.|
|Oct-07-15|| ||Jim Bartle: The one-game playoff is meant to keep things moving, to keep the other six teams from waiting around for a week. And the wild-card game is meant to punish the wild-card teams for not winning their divisions, making them play the play-in game.|
It makes sense. Previously if two teams in a division were certain of making the postseason, say the Yankees and Red Sox, there wouldn't be any tension in the regular season race. It reallly didn't matter who won.
Now with the wild-card game it makes a big difference, so the two teams will fight to win the division.
|Oct-07-15|| ||unferth: ESPN ranks Kobe 93rd among NBA players (way too high, IMO) and runs an incisive piece about how he's likely to cripple the rebuilding process ... and the comments section is filled with stuff like this:|
"Kobe is one of the best players we got to see in the las 2 decades. I'm sick and tired of the bs. He only one with shaq. Come on. Kobe as a role player according to you average 29 points in the finals. After shaq he won 2 more titles. The guy gives everything he has every single night. What else do you guys want??? Also fans are still going to the games because of him. He is a winner. You guys are haters. Yes he is old but that don't mean he is in the low 90's as the best players."
"My man Kobe is top 10 all time plus he still could play more than at least 70 of those players on the list bro"
this is the kind of stuff we rational Lakers fans have had to deal with day after day for years now ... sigh ...
|Oct-07-15|| ||Jim Bartle: Jerry West is top 10 all time as well. That guy want him to play, too?|
|Oct-07-15|| ||HeMateMe: Unfortunately, most teams don't need 38 year old ball players, even if they "give 100% every night." He was the highest paid player in the league while missing over half of the past two seasons, and never took a pay cut so that his team could be more competitive in the hunt for free agents. Disgraceful.|
I remember when Mark McGuire retired somewhat early, when he still had $20 or $30 million left on his contract with the Cardinals, guaranteed. He said he wanted to give his club a chance to get new, young talent. I think it was also an indirect apology for getting so much fame and money when it was based on cheating, using steroids and/or HGH. At least he tried to make amends by releasing some of the money the Cardinals had tied up in him.
Every game kobe has played in the last ten years, every playoff game I've seen him in, I've wanted him to lose. That's his legacy among many sports fans, same as Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong and Floyd Mayweather--talented people, but completely unlikable.
|Oct-07-15|| ||tamar: Jerry is ready to go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buY...|
|Oct-07-15|| ||HeMateMe: dayem, mr. Clutch!
anyone more important or more likeable ever come out of west Virginia, besides the Walton family?
|Oct-07-15|| ||plang: <He was the highest paid player in the league while missing over half of the past two seasons, and never took a pay cut so that his team could be more competitive in the hunt for free agents. Disgraceful.>|
It seems like the money was paid to reward him for his career which is a bit unusual. He could have turned it down I guess but I think the "blame" in this case really belongs to management.
|Oct-07-15|| ||HeMateMe: I agree, it was a sort of back end 'reward' but hadn't he already been nicely compensated for running Shaq out of town and bringing a possible rape conviction into the Lakers' house? I really don't think the team owed him anything but fair compensation for effort. He was over compensated hugely. |
Usually in those situations the old guy who had been a star gets to play out the last year or two of his big money contract, and then retires. That's what Bird did, crippled by back problems at the end.
Instead, Kobe says "I can still play, AND I want Michael Jordan money and status!" The Lakers family gave it to him, and got not only a losing team in return, but a losing team that wasn't even building for the future. That's the fault of young Lakers decision makers Jenna Bush and the dolt brother, and Mitch Kupchak, for refusing to look at reality. They should have given Kobe a one year contract when the last one had expired, for about $18M. If he turns it around and can still play, they give him a better two year deal.
the Lakers should hire West as a 'consultant' but give him some real decision making power.
Picture West in the running game for the 80s Celtics, with Bird and McHale on the Wings? Frightening.
|Oct-07-15|| ||Jim Bartle: West is with the Warriors now. I doubt he would leave.|
|Oct-08-15|| ||chancho: 2016 could be their year:
|Oct-08-15|| ||perfidious: Could well be; earlier title favourite Cavs have a laundry list of problems.|
|Oct-08-15|| ||HeMateMe: It's still unknown whether the Cadavers are or aren't a better playoff team with Love in the lineup. Can he make open baskets? Yes. Can he get rebounds and put in close, contested shots in the "no blood-no foul" NBA playoffs? Uncertain.|
|Oct-08-15|| ||plang: I'm not sure about Love's impact either but a healthy Irving definitely makes them better|
|Oct-08-15|| ||Jim Bartle: Everything certainly fell into place for the Warriors this year. The two teams which could have given them the most trouble, San Antonio and the Clips, were knocked out before they could play the Warriors, and in the Finals the Cavs were without Irving and Love.|
|Oct-08-15|| ||WannaBe: <Jim Bartle> Heheheheh... Happened before, too.|
|Oct-08-15|| ||Jim Bartle: Definitely. Lakers had swept all three series going to the Finals. Then Magic and Scott went out, and really, they didn't have a competent replacement for Magic. David Rivers was overwhelmed.|
But Detroit had a really strong and deep team. They wouldn't have swept, but I think they would have won even if the Lakers had been healthy.
I remember that series really well. I was in Lima, didn't have cable, and had a friend who was a Piston fanatic. So a member of a local beach club arranged for us to watch the games there. Just the two of us, there was little or no interest in the NBA here back then.
|Oct-08-15|| ||plang: It is almost weird seeing the Blue Jays on TV. Despite their explosive offense ESPN and Fox spent the first 5 months of the season ignoring them.|
|Oct-08-15|| ||WannaBe: <plang> Even at the All-Star break, Toronto was one game under 0.500|
On July 31, they were 2 games over 0.500
From Aug 1 to the end of the season, they went 40-18
That could explain they weren't on TV much to begin the season, plus before the trades they made, who could have named one starting pitcher on their staff?
Interestingly, NYM was 5 games over 0.500 at the break, and on July 31, they too, were 2 games over 0.500 (Plus they were no-hit by SFG C. Heston in New York).
And then NYM went on a run to win the East.
|Oct-08-15|| ||plang: I'm sure that explains some of it.
David Price was a high profile acquisition who helped Toronto win the division but he has now made 6 career post-season starts and is 0-6.
|Oct-08-15|| ||perfidious: The NL East was a strange race: Washington got off to a slow start, then caught fire and everyone ( including me) figured the jig was up and Nats would win going away.|
Then came cold reality....
|Oct-08-15|| ||plang: The expectations for Washington were based on a level of performance from many of their players that was not realized.|
Even Scherzer despite his two no-hitters had an inconsistent year.
Strasburg continues to get media coverage as if he's a star when in fact his career numbers have been quite ordinary.
|Oct-08-15|| ||HeMateMe: <But Detroit had a really strong and deep team. They wouldn't have swept, but I think they would have won even if the Lakers had been healthy.>|
I think the Lakers were finally starting to show their age, after being young and pretty for so long. Kareem was finally slowing down, Magic had an arthritic knee. The year before the Pistons led them 3-2 in the finals, but lost the final two games in LA. I thought that was a harbinger for things to come. The following season I think the odds makers had it Pistons in six or seven. They had home court, too.
|Oct-08-15|| ||HeMateMe: Saturday night, mexico v. usa, Confab playoff, in the Rosebowl. Isn't the US undefeated at home v. Mexico, and we have never won at Aztec stadium, where lungs go to die? Important guage for this team.|
You gonna find a TV and watch it, JB?
|Oct-10-15|| ||HeMateMe: Mets! up 1-0.|
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