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|Sep-29-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: As of last year Charlie Weiss was still getting paid by TWO former teams.|
|Sep-29-16|| ||WannaBe: "The NFL has played 14 games in London, and eight coaches from those games went on to lose their jobs that year - including two the next week."|
JAX (G. Bradley) and IND (C. Pagano) will be playing from London this Sunday.
Then Oct. 23 Rams and Giants, then Oct. 30 Bengals and 'Skins.
|Sep-29-16|| ||saffuna: Eight out of 28 isn't all that many, especially considering it's usually the weaker teams playing in London.|
|Sep-29-16|| ||HeMateMe: Regarding Weiss, isn't it built into contracts that if a coach takes a position while still owed money from his last employer (who fired him) the old team only owes him/her the difference between the new contract and the yearly sum owed under the old contract? I thought such 'double dipping' was blocked contractually by sports leagues in general.|
The Concorde is coming back on line. They've found ways to make it quieter, the big complaint that forced it's retirement years ago. With that, one way trips from NYC to London are only three hours, maybe even less. I definitely see a franchise in London. I think NFL Europe did well in Frankfurt too, before it folded. I could see Europe getting two teams, to keep things balanced.
Too many teams? Then just force Detroit and Tampa to sell their teams, rename then in Europe. Enough suffering is enough. Those poor fans in Detroit and Tampa are masochists.
Come to think of it, the Florida Marlins should be sold to Havana, and the Dallas Cowboys should be sold to Mexico City. If you can't win, give someone else a try. Jes sayin,...
|Sep-29-16|| ||WannaBe: There's nothing in Weiss' contract prohibiting double-dipping and/or anything written into any clauses.|
You can write anything/requirement you want into a contract, when LAD signed Kevin Brown he asked for plane tickets to/from Atlanta so his wife and kids can fly to LA and see him play once in a while.
Musical group Van Halen's contract specifically outlined no brown M&Ms and 12 Reese's Cups. Not 11, not 13, not 14. <12>.
And speaking of contracts, Oakland A's flat-out released Billy Butler, that means Oakland have to honour/finish paying Billy remainder of his contract.
So, he's currently getting money from both A's & Yankees (his new team) and if any team picks him up next year, will have to pay Billy, too.
|Sep-29-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: <Regarding Weiss, isn't it built into contracts that if a coach takes a position while still owed money from his last employer (who fired him) the old team only owes him/her the difference between the new contract and the yearly sum owed under the old contract? >|
AFAIK <wannabe> is correct, contracts can be binding for whatever is put in writing as long as it adheres to general federal/state employment law of the US of A.
But <buyout clauses> often exist, where if a coach is fired, he gets the benefit of some percentage of the salary remaining under his $$ contract (Weiss).
But those buyout clauses also work the other way sometimes, like when some coach is in the middle of his contract and gets offered a much better job elsewhere the new school can pay some cash buyout $$ to pry away that coach who is in the middle of a deal.
IIRC, Michigan had to pay West Virginia like $5 million to hire away Rich Rodriguez mid-contract.
And I remember that when Florida hired McIlwain mid-contract they also had to not only pay Colorado State some huge amount but also agree to put them on their schedule too, lol.
|Sep-29-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: And generally in the USA when you get <severance pay> for getting laid off at a company the agreement your former employer asks you to sign in order to receive the severance says that you agree to pay back the (pro-rated) money if you get another job during the covered period. When I worked in HR I hear of that being in the fine print at times, but I've never heard of it being enforced at all.|
|Sep-29-16|| ||HeMateMe: It's like paying two ex-wives.|
|Sep-30-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: More late-season cheating that benefits the Cardinals. :-(|
|Sep-30-16|| ||perfidious: Veddy innaresting....
In Reds' shoes, I challenge anyway: nothing to lose by doing so.
|Sep-30-16|| ||unferth: the fuss over that non-call is overblown. check out this drivel from ESPN's Mark Saxon:|
"The St. Louis Cardinals won the lottery!
As the baseball world debates the subtle differences between concepts like, "immediate," and "within 10 seconds," after St. Louis' stunning 4-3 win over the Cincinnati Reds that swirled with controversy Thursday night, the Cardinals will take the win any way they can get it. When you are within inches of seeing your season end and someone hands you a rope, you say, "Thank you." You don't ask where it came from.
Yadier Molina's double shouldn't have scored Matt Carpenter. After it hit the Missouri Lottery sign above the left-field wall, it should have been a dead ball. At that moment, Carpenter wasn't even halfway between second and third, so he would have been sent back to third.
But somehow third-base umpire Scott Barry didn't see it and neither did any of the other three umpires. By the time Cincinnati manager Bryan Price reached the umpires as they were headed off the field to their locker room, it was too late.
After the Giants won late Thursday night, St. Louis will go into the final three games of its season against the Pittsburgh Pirates one game back for the second wild-card spot. That gives the Cardinals pretty swell odds compared to where they would have been had Carpenter been sent back to third and been stranded there."
umm, Mark, if Carpenter had been sent back, the Cards would've had runners at second and third with their cleanup hitter at the plate in the bottom of the ninth in a tie game. even with two out, they'd have been much more likely to win than lose; they weren't "within inches of seeing their season end." I loathe the Cards, but for @#$%'s sake get the facts straight.
|Sep-30-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: The league clearly favors the Cardinals. Every close late-season call will go their way. |
I wish I was there to chuck 5 or 6 mustard bottles onto the infield in protest.
|Sep-30-16|| ||plang: Never heard of the "10 second" rule - dumb rule.|
As a Cardinal fan - feeling very fortunate this morning.
|Sep-30-16|| ||saffuna: That's a terrible setup in the outfield, where umpires have to decide where a ball hit on a wall. And only ten seconds for a team to make a protest?|
|Sep-30-16|| ||OhioChessFan: Cincinnati's bullpen would have lost the game soon enough anyway.|
|Sep-30-16|| ||HeMateMe: The Mets are in! They make the playoffs.
of course it's just the one game nonsense. Really, the season should be shortened by a couple of games and let the wild card playoffs be best of three.
|Sep-30-16|| ||saffuna: Who is still healthy in the Mets' rotation? Seems I keep reading about another great starter going down.|
|Sep-30-16|| ||plang: Wild card best of 3 punishes the division winners by making them sit around even more than they do now.|
Mets have not clinched though they are in a strong position to do so.
Mets deserve a lot of credit for overcoming numerous pitching injuries - they have been winning with offense.
|Sep-30-16|| ||saffuna: It's obvious that the team with one great starter has the advantage in the one-game playoff, a Bumgarner or a Sindergaard. Of course the teams are usually fighting to qualify until the final weekend, so the #1 starter may not be available for the play-in game.|
|Sep-30-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: Right when Joel Embiid starts is set to start in his first appearance in a (preseason) NBA game, Ben Simmons goes down for 2-3 months.|
Fortunately they have 9 other power forwards on the roster.
|Sep-30-16|| ||WannaBe: I heard Charles Barkley is planning a come back with 'Sixers.|
|Sep-30-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: Make that 10 other power forwards on the Sixers roster.|
|Sep-30-16|| ||HeMateMe: well, Alan Iverson is available, having washed out in the Turkish league.|
Too bad some of those girlfriends won't give back some of the bling he bought them.
|Sep-30-16|| ||perfidious: <Bobster....Fortunately (Sixers) have 9 other power forwards on the roster.>|
The advantage of depth, don't you know--all those fouls to give.
Too bad they will get run off the floor and still have very little at guard.
|Sep-30-16|| ||perfidious: Cards activise Matt Holliday; the end for him in St Louis? it appears Cards will not pick up his massive option for next year.|
Fine player and a class act.
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