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|Nov-22-14|| ||Jim Bartle: < The Sixers of my teen years were a nightmare to play:>|
Absolutely. Too bad Toney got hurt, he was fantastic. Barkley said he was in awe of him when he joined the team.
|Nov-22-14|| ||perfidious: Those Philly teams were, indeed, a tough draw; who knows how many titles they might have won without the likes of Celtics or Lakers in their way?
As it was, it took the juggernaut they were to beat Lakers in 1983.|
|Nov-22-14|| ||Jim Bartle: Swept them, went 12-1 in the playoffs, just short of "fo fo fo." I don't think Kareem liked to play against strong, rough centers like Malone.|
|Nov-22-14|| ||perfidious: <Jim> The day of game seven in the East finals, I was the old Boylston CC playing a telephone match for the Boston side--was fun looking up at the monitor as Celtics were getting destroyed. Enjoyed every second.|
When the '82 finals ended, I was in Philly and the reaction among those I talked to was disappointment, but they got satisfaction soon enough.
|Nov-22-14|| ||HeMateMe: Funny thing, I don't think Jabber ever had much problem with Caldwell Jones or Daryl Dawkins, also Philly tough guys. Maybe Malone was just smarter, in how he defended and how he attacked the basket. Dawkins hasn't been given any honorary university diplomas, to my knowledge...|
|Nov-22-14|| ||unferth: Kareem always hated playing against strong, physical guys like Moses, Willis Reed, and Nate Thurmond. the Lakers tried defending Moses with Kurt Rambis, who was way too small and slow. that `83 Philly team was the only one that ever scared me as a Lakers fan. if Magic and Worthy hadn't been hurt, they might not have been swept in the finals, but they weren't going to win.|
|Nov-22-14|| ||Jim Bartle: Jones and Dawkins were mediocre. Malone was one of the best players ever, a force of nature. He was superquick and just pummeled guys, the first I remember allowed to do that.|
|Nov-23-14|| ||HeMateMe: I remember watching some of that 4-0 fo fo fo blowout. I thought the Lakers were winning game 4, and they would get some bit of comfort from that. But, they just seemed to give up in the 4th quarter and lost that game, too.|
I don't remember Magic Johnson being hurt in that series. I thought they all played, but the same Philly team that made the finals the year before now replaced Dawkins with Malone. Quite a change.
Funny, it was also Moses Malone who defeated the Lakers a couple of years earlier in a three game series. I think he was With San Antonio then, and the Spurs beat the defending champion Lakers 2-1 in the three game first round series. The league than made all rounds seven games, to protect teams like the Lakers, who drew better than most teams in the television ratings.
As good as that Philly team was they seemed to disintegrate pretty quickly. In just three years the core of the team was gone and they never did win a second title with Malone and company.
|Nov-23-14|| ||HeMateMe: pretty good 30/30 available on Netflix right now, Jimmy Connors story, focusing mostly on his historic 1991 US Open at age 39. He was coming off of wrist surgery and a year of inactivity, then he got all the way to the semis till he met the brick wall Jim Courier and lost.|
A lot of gamesmanship got him past Pat McEnroe and some other guys. Connors did a lot of game delaying, arguing calls, anything to throw off McEnroe's timing. It worked. I think it is the first round and Connors is down 2 sets love and somehow wills the crowd to his side. Pat M. (the nice one!) calls Connors an A** hole about five times during an interview, in this feature, pretty funny stuff. A horrible experience for Mac the Lesser.
|Nov-23-14|| ||unferth: <HeMateMe: I remember watching some of that 4-0 fo fo fo blowout. I thought the Lakers were winning game 4, and they would get some bit of comfort from that. But, they just seemed to give up in the 4th quarter and lost that game, too.|
I don't remember Magic Johnson being hurt in that series.>
you're right, it was Norm Nixon (and also Bob McAdoo) who got hurt during those finals, and of course Worthy broke his leg before they started. not that it would have mattered; Moses was just too much inside. that was always the showtime Lakers Achilles' heel; Kareem, great as he was, was something of a pansy who could be shoved around.
|Nov-23-14|| ||unferth: <Funny, it was also Moses Malone who defeated the Lakers a couple of years earlier in a three game series. I think he was With San Antonio then, and the Spurs beat the defending champion Lakers 2-1 in the three game first round series.>|
that was Houston.
|Nov-23-14|| ||Jim Bartle: The Lakers didn't get tough until the Celts roughed them up in the 84 Finals.|
Yes, they were up 15-20 on the Sixers in game four in 1983, but couldn't keep it up.
|Nov-25-14|| ||Shams: Hilarious quote from Rick Pitino on trying not to run up the score: "We played four white guys and an Egyptian".|
|Nov-26-14|| ||HeMateMe: Who was the Egyptian? A walk on who WALKED LIKE AN EGYPTIAN? heheheheheh.|
The Kobes have now won three games this season. They are on track to win 18 games. Meanwhile, the Philly Sixers are 0-14. They are the REAL threat to dethrone the 72-73 Sixers (9-73) as worst team ever in the NBA.
|Nov-26-14|| ||perfidious: <HMM> As noted, five days ago.|
|Nov-26-14|| ||HeMateMe: I just find it fascinating that the team with the league's highest paid player might finish dead last. also, the Philly story is intriguing--could they really win nine games or less this year?|
|Nov-26-14|| ||Jim Bartle: Well, the league's highest paid player, coming off a serious injury, is surrounded by minor league talent.|
And yes, it's likely the Sixers will not reach nine wins.
|Nov-27-14|| ||perfidious: Gut-wrenching story of Darryl Talley, one of plethora of stars for Buffalo Bills teams which made four straight Super Bowls in 1990s:|
|Nov-27-14|| ||Jim Bartle: Too many stories like that. Jim McMahon, Mike Webster, Junior Seau, Ray Easterling, Terry Long, Dave Duerson.|
|Nov-27-14|| ||Strongest Force: Some experts say Kentucky will go undefeated
I hope some unknown team like Texes Western will beat them
I hope Phil Jackson gives a special thanx in the recognition in the fact that he has people in NYC who love him
That Philly-Dallas game should be an interesting football game.
|Nov-27-14|| ||HeMateMe: <Q: Youíre quite familiar with the theory that Gary Bettman was secretly sent by David Stern to ruin the NHL.|
But what if Stern didnít stop there? What if Roger Goodell was also the Manchurian Commissioner, secretly programmed by Stern to discredit the NFL while Sternís true successor (Adam Silver) leads the NBA to the top spot?
|Nov-27-14|| ||HeMateMe: NFC SOUTH W L T PCT HOME ROAD DIV CONF PF PA DIFF STRK |
Atlanta 4 7 0 ----.364 2-3 2-4 4-0 4-4 262 281 -19 Lost 1
New Orleans 4 7 0----- .364 3-3 1-4 2-1 4-4 288 286 +2 Lost 3
Carolina 3 7 1 ----.318 2-4 1-3-1 1-2 3-5 215 300 -85 Lost 5
Tampa Bay 2 9 0 ----
look at the NFC south. the division "leaders" have identical 4-7 records. The division winner will probably have a losing record but still make the playoffs. Has this ever happened before? I know the Jets were 8-8 one year and even won the first playoff game that year, in Miami, but has anyone gotten in with a 7-9 (or worse) record before?
|Nov-27-14|| ||Jim Bartle: Yes, Seattle made the playoffs one year with a 7-9. And they win their first game.|
A division winner belongs in the playoff, no matter the record, but shouldn't to play at home against a team with a better record, as Seattle did.
What's funniest is Tampa is still in contention at 2-9.
|Nov-27-14|| ||Shams: <What's funniest is Tampa is still in contention at 2-9.>|
Yes, and I read somewhere they don't even have to win out to take the division! Of course everything would have to go perfectly for that to happen but still.
|Nov-27-14|| ||HeMateMe: <What's funniest is Tampa is still in contention at 2-9.>|
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