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|Jul-15-14|| ||Jim Bartle: <You have to realize that Cleveland has seen this before--they had THREE of the last four number one picks in the college draft--did those three guys become stars and lead the Cavaliers t the NBA east finals? >|
True but deceptive:
1st Kyrie Irving, all-star
2nd Anthony Bennett, washout so far
3rd Andrew Wiggins, unknown/hasn't played
So they blew one, made one excellent choice, and one we don't know.
|Jul-15-14|| ||perfidious: It is true that Irving has proven himself a fine player so far, but Anthony Bennett was hardly the prototypical overall first pick, coming as he did in a weak class, further diluted by Nerlens Noel's injury, the player who should likely have gone numero uno in normal circumstances.|
Of course the jury is out on Wiggins; but I am inclined to believe that, barring injury(ies) or a Len Bias-like detour, we should see a future All-Star.
In no way is all this an exact science, and we see quixotic selections such as Bennett at 1 now and again, but time will tell.
|Jul-15-14|| ||Jim Bartle: There certainly have been some terrible #1 and #2 picks through the years. Some because the player was terrible, others because another clearly great player was available.|
|Jul-15-14|| ||Jim Bartle: I admit Irving does look awfully worn out for 22: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dn...|
|Jul-15-14|| ||perfidious: <Jim> Was just perusing the incredible '84 draft: while Portland have been lampooned for selecting Sam Bowie second overall, who knew he would struggle so with injuries, other than Bowie himself, as he had concealed evidence of his discomfort.|
I've one question: who is Lancaster frigging Gordon at eight?
|Jul-15-14|| ||HeMateMe: There was a pretty good show recently, I think on NBA tv, about the '84 draft--Barkley, Ewing, many others. Dave DeBusschere, then the GM in New York actually did something right--he grabbed the right envelope and it turned into Patrick Ewing. Instantly respectability for the Knicks, for the next 12 years.|
|Jul-15-14|| ||perfidious: Only thing to save Knicks from themselves is to have Dilettante Dolan sell off and get some real basketball people who are free to pursue their aims, without hindrance from above.|
|Jul-15-14|| ||HeMateMe: This is funny, james Dolan blues band:
|Jul-15-14|| ||WannaBe: Boozer out of Chicago.
|Jul-15-14|| ||tamar: Mike Miller joins the Cavs. Good pick up, but probably means that Kevin Love will go elsewhere.|
|Jul-15-14|| ||HeMateMe: love is the mystery; the only big name left.|
|Jul-15-14|| ||perfidious: <WannaBe> That move is hardly a shock, as there had been speculation that Boozer would be amnestied to provide space for a possible run at <Me-lo>.|
|Jul-15-14|| ||HeMateMe: Didn't Chicago already burn their amnesty exemption?|
|Jul-15-14|| ||HeMateMe: common sense, from another site:
"As was proven last year, it takes much more than Lebron to win so I am a bit skeptical about him, a very young team without playoff experience, and some old veterans who are only getting paid for their mentoring. The Heat might not be good enough or have the talent, but they do have the experience."
Yes, the new Cadavers will be a work in progress. They just added Mike Miller, 34 year old three point shooter, because Lebron wanted him. It's good to be a F.O.L.
"Cleveland is the city of no professional sports team championships in the last 50 years. The Cavs tried buying a title and it didn't work out with a broken down Shaq etc. For their sakes I hope they win something they really don't have much else. Most Miami fans are loyal to their professional teams unfortunately we have a few fake fans that made us look really bad in the playoffs. To assume the Marlins bought their second title is a bit of a stretch considering the fact they did beat the Yankees with players who they drafted unlike the Yankees who bought their roster. Didn't beat the Cleveland Indians for their first title as well? You still seem a little bit upset over that. Cleveland doesn't have beaches or anything worth sticking around for unless you like factory smog. Yes Lebron left but we weren't out in the streets burning his jersey like rabid idiots. We went to the beach and got some sun. Titles or not, Miami is a beautiful place to live, Cleveland on the other hand, not so much. No city is entitled to their professional sports team winning a title. If it happens for your city great, if it doesn't happen for your city in quite a long time oh well that is life!"
|Jul-16-14|| ||plang: I live in south Florida. Florida sports fans don't impress me. They didn't support the Marlins in each of their WC years until the post-season. Whenever the Dolphin home games are on TV you can see empty seats all around the stadium for the fans who didn't show up. It was embarrassing seeing all the fans walking out in game 6 of the NBA finals last year and then trying to get back in when the game went to OT.|
|Jul-16-14|| ||HeMateMe: I'm surprised football games don't sell out. only 8 home games a year? |
In Green Bay the waiting list is a hundred years for season tickets. People in their 70s there sometimes become season ticket holders after having been on the list for 40 plus years.
|Jul-16-14|| ||plang: The games do sell out in Miami - I am talking about no-shows|
|Jul-16-14|| ||perfidious: <HMM> The glory days of titles and Marino have long since flown--too many other things to do in South Florida nowadays. In Green Bay, there is nothing else.|
|Jul-17-14|| ||HeMateMe: < In Green Bay, there is nothing else.>|
Not true. The local state college has a Winter Carnival. Some of the most popular games during Carnival week include:
1) ice fishing competition, using the remains of disemboweled Minnesota Viking fans as bait,
3) Oh-Ya-Oh-You-Betcha, where players try to imitate their favorite characters from the film Fargo. Crowd applause determines the champion,
4) the co-ed Vince Lombardi Look Alike pageant, and
5) Name That Barf, an event where contestants compete to identify unique samples of vomit collected outside the front doors of the local college ratskeller bars early Sunday mornings. Successful entrants will identify what the unknown heavy drinker-barfer had been eating, the previous Saturday night.
Winner of that particular event gets to sit down and have a cold one with Brett Favre at his popular steak house in Milwaukee.
|Jul-17-14|| ||plang: <5) Name That Barf,>|
I sure hope you are not referring to Barf Starr
|Jul-20-14|| ||HeMateMe: Someone actually filmed a documentary about Kobe Bryant's musing about "What I'm going to do after basketball."|
There must be a LOTTA free time out there.
Just saw an item today where Julius Erving's (doctor J) house in Utah is in foreclosure. He also saw the golf course he owned go bankrupt. I've never heard of a well maintained golf course going under, as the game is so popular. I guess Doc has had some bad luck. These guys should just put their NBA money in conservative investments and take a job, if they are looking for something to do after leaving the game. Safer, that way.
|Jul-20-14|| ||perfidious: <HMM> It will take a massive psychological adjustment for <Ko-me> to adapt to life after his career, same as most others in sports: he won't have be in Cleveland tomorrow, Milwaukee two days later and so forth. As you say, oceans of free time.|
As to Erving, many people fall prey to the Bernie Madoffs of this world, who are only too willing to promise them nice returns on their investments. If someone came to me and offered fifteen per cent per annum with no effort on my part, I would laugh at them--sound investments do not offer those types of yields, year after year.
|Jul-20-14|| ||plang: <He also saw the golf course he owned go bankrupt. I've never heard of a well maintained golf course going under, as the game is so popular. >|
I have heard some discussion about golf becoming less popular and that there are now too many golf courses so it wouldn't shock me if a few courses are going under.
There has been recent discussion about changes to the game including making the hole larger. Perhaps in this age of instant gratification golf is too challenging for many.
|Jul-20-14|| ||perfidious: <plang....Perhaps in this age of instant gratification golf is too challenging for many.>|
You may be on to something there, given that a typical attention span is brief indeed, and asking for a game of golf to hold the attention of many is probably too much.
|Jul-20-14|| ||HeMateMe: I've never watched a golf tournament on tv. Too boring.|
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