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Jeremy Lim
Number of games in database: 5
Years covered: 1990 to 2001
Last FIDE rating: 2273
Highest rating achieved in database: 2365
Overall record: +0 -1 =4 (40.0%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
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JEREMY LIM
(born Sep-02-1973) Singapore

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Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. G Vescovi vs J Lim ½-½41 1990 Wch U18B06 Robatsch
2. J Lim vs J Ye  ½-½36 1990 Shah Alam Asia ztE73 King's Indian
3. J Lim vs T Thamtavatvorn  ½-½28 2001 1st Sea Chess TChA30 English, Symmetrical
4. S Irwanto vs J Lim  1-058 2001 1st Sea Chess TChD97 Grunfeld, Russian
5. J Lim vs Zaw Oo  ½-½40 2001 1st Sea Chess TChA15 English
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Apr-14-14
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  HeMateMe: Tentatively, it looks like the Knicks are going with Steve Kerr as head coach, running the triangle offense. Melo can star in that offense if he is willing to pass the ball. He says he is, and I think the nix will offer a compromise deal--short term, 2 years, prove you can listen to a coach and make your teammates better. If so, you get a longer contract and more money.

He is already 30, and not worth the risk of a huge, long term contract. As you said, no one else will offer him a huge contract, so he will have to compromise.

Apr-14-14
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  perfidious: <HeMateMe: Melo can star in that offense if he is willing to pass the ball.>

Seems implausible to me, but what do I know, anyway?

<He says he is, and I think the nix will offer a compromise deal--short term, 2 years, prove you can listen to a coach and make your teammates better....>

To say the least, I am sceptical; this would require something of a personality transplant.

Maybe Jackson can sell Me-lo, but he has already coached Ko-me, and we all know the outcome of that. There is but one sheriff in town.

Apr-14-14
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  plang: I predict Anthony will not be with the Knicks next year
Apr-14-14
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  HeMateMe: but Jax already gave public support, said something about "wanting Melo around." That might not mean there is a contract on the table, maybe it was just a nice thing to say at your first press conference, I don't know. I would guess the Melo question won't be resolved until we know who the head coach will be. I suspect the current guy will get fired.
Apr-15-14
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  HeMateMe: Just watched "The Trade" ESPN 30/30 piece on the historic 1988 Wayne Gretzky trade to Los Angeles. It was about money. Edmonton owner Peter Pocklington couldn't afford to pay free agent to be Gretz what he was worth. That's what happens when a league doesn't have a salary cap--the big talent gets lured away to the largest cities.
Apr-15-14
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  perfidious: <HMM> Oilers were not only Gretzky--they were loaded with stars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter...

Apr-15-14
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  HeMateMe: True dat--an amazing collection. You couldn't really afford to pay all of them, unless you were more wealthy than the other owners. The filmmaker never quite makes it clear whether Pocklington didn't have the money to pay Gretzky, or didn't want to pay that much. I think he really didn't have that much money. Bruce McNall of the Kings gave him $15M and three first round draft choices for the Great One. In a sense, it was smart for Edmonton. They were going to lose W.G. anyway; this way they got high value for him.

Reminds me of the conversation the owner of Sun Records, Sam Phillips had on camera. He had elvis Presley under contract, but sold elvis to Columbia records. "Elvis was going to leave anyway [to a larger label], so I got enough for him to pay all of my other bills, so I could stay in business."

Apr-15-14
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  Jim Bartle: I thought it was clear Pocklington needed the money, thought he had no choice.

And it turns out Kings owner Bruce McNall was an embezzler, went to jail for five years.

Apr-15-14
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  perfidious: Pocklington's former partner Nelson Skalbania-the man who originally signed Gretzky for Edmonton-also did time for theft:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ska...

Apr-15-14
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  HeMateMe: I knew McNall hit rock bottom and did jail time. What I most remember him for is he (going halfies with Gretzky) bought the Honus Wagner baseball card, the oldest card in existence. I think they "flipped" the sale immediately afterwards. They paid something like $400,000 for the card and almost doubled their money, finding another buyer out there, within a year. McNall also had a pricey coin collection. Unfortunately he was convicted of defrauding several banks over a period of time and was sentenced to 70 months in the Big House (not the Forum).
Apr-16-14  Strongest Force: Godzilla2 takes the mound today. Does Tanaka knows how rich he will be if he can lead Yanks to another WC? He already has, at the young age of 24, more money than his family will be able to spend for many generations to come. If he brings another championship big business will be tripping over each other to give him more.
Apr-16-14
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  HeMateMe: what does an Asian over here, in baseball or basketball make in Asian endorsement money? $20M per year? more? Jeremy Lin has become rich, without ever being a star. He gets endorsements in China AND Taiwan! They both claim his as their own. He shrewdly stays out of politics (he went to Michael Jordan U.) not choosing one government over the other and just counts that cash.
Apr-17-14
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  HeMateMe: Top 10 Ball Handlers in NBA History

<http://www.therichest.com/sports/ba...>

I thought about this headline before reading the article. My top ten, in no particular order would be:

Bob Cousy, Pete Maravich, Nate Archibald (one year he led the league in ppg AND assists!), Oscar Robertson, Lional Hollins, Kevin Johnson, Alan Iverson, Isiah Thomas, Earl (the Pearl) Monroe, and Penny Hardaway, who was a killer guard till he got injured.

The article show some great dribblers, but is too heavily slanted towards today's players.

Apr-17-14
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  perfidious: Nominee for Darwin Awards below.

Spectator at Giants-Dodgers game arrested for tossing M-80 into crowd:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on...

Apr-17-14
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  HeMateMe: magic Johnson won't stand for that. cut his nutts off.
Apr-17-14
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  Jim Bartle: That list is a joke. What about Magic, Lenny Wilkens, Walt Frazier, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd?

I saw a show of ex-NBAers talking about that, and they all talked about Rod Strickland. Couldn't shoot, but they still couldn't keep him out of the lane.

Apr-17-14  unferth: <Top 10 Ball Handlers in NBA History

<http://www.therichest.com/sports/ba...> if CG had a facepalm emoticon, I'd be using it here. whoever wrote that article must be in his early 20s; he missed four+ decades of NBA history.

Apr-18-14
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  HeMateMe: Bob Cousy WAS an amazing ball handler. True, he didn't have to face the same caliber of NBA defense that exists now, but he was definitely way before his time, as a dribbler.

The Couz!

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZcx...>

JB--I don't really put Magic, Steve Nash and Jason Kidd in with the great dribblers. They were great passers and playmakers, but I don't think they were wizards at dribbling, just passing and running their respective offenses.

A selfish ball hog like Iverson will never be considered a great teammate, but he was hyper gifted at dribbling, as was Isaiah Thomas.

Mention might also be given to Calvin Murphy, a 5-9 guy who played several years in the NBA. He averaged 30 ppg for Niagara college. He could put the ball on the floor and get in the lane in the time it took to blink your eyes. He played several years in the NBA, mostly with Houston, I think. I remember watching the NBA on CBS one sunday afternoon, and the Rockets were playing the Celtics. There was a tie up and jump ball between Dave Cowens and Murphy! The crowd went nutts, because Murphy could really sky.

Murph:

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVkL...>

Oh, and there was Marques Haynes and Curley Neal!

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIV8...>

Apr-18-14  Strongest Force: A couple of Globetrotters were amazing handlers. I remember Marcus Haynes.
Apr-18-14  Strongest Force: Re: Marcus Haynes could shake and bake the fat off of people. He could have used this to make money: " The Marcus Haynes Shake and Bake Quick Weight Loss Program".
Apr-18-14
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  plang: <JB--I don't really put Magic, Steve Nash and Jason Kidd in with the great dribblers. They were great passers and playmakers, but I don't think they were wizards at dribbling, just passing and running their respective offenses.

A selfish ball hog like Iverson will never be considered a great teammate, but he was hyper gifted at dribbling, as was Isaiah Thomas.>

What is the point of putting together a list of great ball handlers if you are not taking into account their passing and playmaking skills?

Apr-18-14
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  HeMateMe: <What is the point of putting together a list of great ball handlers if you are not taking into account their passing and playmaking skills?>

Because the article from the other site was talking about great dribblers. The guys they mentioned aren't even NBA all stars, in some cases. But--they were amazing ball handlers. Often those are playground starts who never developed an all around game.

I would think Earl the Pearl Monroe (black Jesus) should be in the conversation, too. Earl could fake people out of their jock, shorts AND shoes.

Apr-18-14
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  keypusher: <plang: <JB--I don't really put Magic, Steve Nash and Jason Kidd in with the great dribblers. They were great passers and playmakers, but I don't think they were wizards at dribbling, just passing and running their respective offenses.

A selfish ball hog like Iverson will never be considered a great teammate, but he was hyper gifted at dribbling, as was Isaiah Thomas.>

What is the point of putting together a list of great ball handlers if you are not taking into account their passing and playmaking skills?>

Why not? You can rate pitchers by their pickoff moves, even if it doesn't tell you a whole lot about how good they were as pitchers.

I think the real problem with lists like this is that they tend to be hopelessly subjective -- I saw so-and-so fake so-and-so out of his shorts, so he goes on the list. Since very few people have seen more than a fraction of the NBA's great ballhandlers, there's not a lot to go on.

Apr-18-14
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  Jim Bartle: Providence produced at least three great ballhandlers.

Inthe 60s there was Jimmy Walker, Jalen Rose's father. A great dribbler and passer, taken #1 in the draft by Detroit. A good pro but not the star he was expected to be.

I saw him play against USF and they tried to guard him one one one even in the lane, because they knew the moment they double-teamed him he would hit the open man.

Then there was Ernie diGregorio, just a spectacular passer. Not fast enough or strong enough for the NBA. (Played with the great Marvin Barnes, who threw away his career with drugs.)

A guy ex-players talk about is God Shammgod. He never made it as a pro for whatever reason, but apparently had great moves and passed brilliantly. A dribbling move that Chris Paul and others use today is called the "Shammgod," dribbling way out in front to tempt the defender, then pulling it back and beating the off-balance defender.

Apr-18-14
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  HeMateMe: I remember Ernie (No D) diGregorio. Played for the Buffalo Braves, with Bob McAdoo. They could put up some big numbers, but they gave up big numbers, too. Maybe Randy Smith was on those teams, a great all around athlete. A small guy tough enough to play forward.

I think there's enough film around to single out great dribblers. It is hard to quantify "who is best." I look at how fast they could get into the lane, and how easy it was for them to make a guy back off in fear, to get room for a pull up jumper. certainly Isaiah Thomas and Alan Iverson had those skills more so than most. Kevin Johnson, '90s Phoenix guard and Nate Archibald of the '70s had those same skills.

Milwaukee Bucks were just sold for $550 million. There's a lot of stupid money out there, IMO. Herb Kohl bought that team 30 years ago for $18M. Nice profit.

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