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|Mar-04-14|| ||Jim Bartle: Rodgers was largely a ballhandler and passer until the second half of the 65-66 season, when he began to be the #1 option when rookie sensation Rick Barry hit the wall. He was a good player, but I don't know how he'd hold up today.|
The best playmaker back then was Oscar Robertson by far. Rodgers was usually second in assists, but a lot of those were just toses to the post to Wilt. Lenny Wilkens was much, much better, maybe Larry Costello as well. KC Jones was a defensive demon who couldn't shoot, and of course Cousy was great until he retired in 1963.
|Mar-04-14|| ||tamar: Looking back at the old tapes, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m18... San Francisco versus Boston finals 1964, Guy Rodgers comes across as a skilled ballhandler, but not too athletic.|
But it is too depressing to watch Boston win all those finals.
|Mar-04-14|| ||perfidious: <tamar....it is too depressing to watch Boston win all those finals.>|
Bad enough seeing all those titles in print: the above is a still worse fate.
|Mar-04-14|| ||HeMateMe: <Btw, if you are paying attention you know the dollar may not continue to be the "reserve currency".>|
Fine with me. This country can actually go back to building things ourselves, so that everyone coming out of college doesn't have to be an engineer or a doctor to make a living.
|Mar-04-14|| ||perfidious: As the cost of higher education rises at 3-5 per cent per annum....|
|Mar-05-14|| ||keypusher: It takes a long time to get to basketball -- I can hear Jim tut-tutting already -- but here's Grantland on basketball in the Philippines.|
|Mar-05-14|| ||plang: So James "makes a point" and scores 61 against Charlotte - then the next night he admits he is exhausted and has mediocre second half in 3-point loss to Houston. He should just play his game and not worry about impressing MVP voters.|
|Mar-05-14|| ||Jim Bartle: Tut- tut.
The US Ambassador to the Philippines is a friend, and he tells me Filipinos are ansolutely crazy for basketball.
|Mar-05-14|| ||Jim Bartle: < then the next night he admits he is exhausted and has mediocre second half in 3-point loss to Houston. He should just play his game and not worry about impressing MVP voters.>|
The league shouldn't schedule teams to play consecutive nights in different cities.
|Mar-05-14|| ||plang: Not sure why they do it - actually, they could easily create a schedule where teams don't play on consecutive days.
It is almost like the NBA is testing the players.|
|Mar-05-14|| ||Jim Bartle: In addition 80 games is too much. 60 would be better, and then each game means more. Now so many games seem so routine and relatively meaningless.|
And what should be done about all the tanking? Philadelphia and other teams aren't even trying now, and the former Toronoto GM just admitted they tanked a couple of years ago.
|Mar-05-14|| ||HeMateMe: I think it was last year when the Spurs, exhausted near theend of a road trip, sent three of their starters, the big three (Duncan, Gianobliand Parker) home early to rest up, basically conceding a road game to Miami. Dave Stern fined the Spurs something like $200,000 for "not being competitive." |
You can't have it both ways. It you have a bunch of guys in their 30s playing a game that causes injuries, you might not have those guys for the playoffs. You might lose a TV audience in January when the vets don't play, or you can lose a TV audience in April, if the Spurs don't have their best players available.
This is one reason I'm glad Stern has left. He was a fine CEO, but he threw his weight around too much.
|Mar-05-14|| ||plang: < I think it was last year when the Spurs, exhausted near theend of a road trip, sent three of their starters, the big three (Duncan, Gianobliand Parker) home early to rest up, basically conceding a road game to Miami. Dave Stern fined the Spurs something like $200,000 for "not being competitive." >|
Of course, the Spurs almost won that game which would have really embarrassed Stern.
|Mar-06-14|| ||HeMateMe: Indiana becomes the first team to make the playoffs, this year. I'm glad. They did it through the draft. I hope they win the title.|
Then, have a big party and invite Rik Smits, mark Jackson, Reggie Miller, George McGinnis and Chris Mullin. Make it a generational Pacer's party.
|Mar-06-14|| ||Strongest Force: I am happy Jason Kidd is doing well after a rough start. Everyone knew he knows the game. He more-or-less did Woodson's job last season. Speaking of coaches, the Nix are suddenly interested in Mark Jackson. They had their chance to get him when he was available. As usual, they knew nothing about the game.|
|Mar-06-14|| ||Jim Bartle: If Woodson is fired, why would any established coach take the job? The team is a disaster with little chance to improve.|
|Mar-06-14|| ||Strongest Force: JB, exactly.|
|Mar-06-14|| ||plang: Carmelo Anthony is being treated like we should be sorry for him because he is on the Knicks. In my opinion he is a big part of the problem - he is completely one-dimensional and unwilling to change his game to fit into a team framework. I remember the gleeful look on George Karl's face when he was able to unload him.|
|Mar-06-14|| ||HeMateMe: The time to take a job with the Knicks is when they unload Me-lo and start over. A new guy can them make a fresh imprint. They'll win games when Melo has a big night, but probably never advance in the playoffs.|
|Mar-08-14|| ||HeMateMe: OJ Mayo get ejected after punching a guy. Looking at the video, it looks like the other fellow rammed his forearm or elbow into M. Buck Mayo's throat, a tit for tat play. Of course, the guy who retaliates is the one who gets caught. I don't think the league the will suspend him, though.|
|Mar-08-14|| ||Jim Bartle: He's on the Bucks. Isn't that punishment enough?|
|Mar-08-14|| ||perfidious: <Jim Bartle: (Mayo's) on the Bucks. Isn't that punishment enough?>|
I'd say it is-perdition on earth at the moment.
|Mar-08-14|| ||Strongest Force: Now the delusional Nix are after the other Jackson:Phil.|
|Mar-08-14|| ||perfidious: <SF> Delusional and Knicks in the same sentence? Say it ain't so!|
|Mar-08-14|| ||HeMateMe: The Bucks have 12 wins--they are out of 1972 Philly Sixers territory (9 wins for the whole season). Hey, it's just gravy from here to the end, if you're a Buck.|
This is why the NBA needs a hard cap, like pro football has. With so many expansion team, a small town like Milwaukee doesn't stand a chance against the big spenders.
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