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|Dec-06-16|| ||WannaBe: Not really, if your starters were playing so bad, they all only played minimal minutes (I have not yet looked at the box score)...|
It's like that first qtr of Florida/Alabama game, pointed out by in an earlier post, Alabama had -7 yards of offense, but they were leading the game.
My very first lesson from Prof. Ferguson in statistics:
"If you want to learn how to lie truthfully, learn statistics, well!".
|Dec-06-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: <Not really, if your starters were playing so bad, they all only played minimal minutes (I have not yet looked at the box score)...>|
The average starter in the NBA still plays 25+ minutes. In the 90's the average starter played a little more minutes, subsitutions are way, way up.
|Dec-06-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: Knicks are up to 12-9 for 5th place in the Eastern Conference. Wow.|
|Dec-06-16|| ||WannaBe: Okay, I looked at the box score:
J. Wall 42minutes 18-31 from the field, 5-8 from 3-pts and 11-14 free throws. Total Points, 52
Magic starters: most minutes: 31, two players. Least minutes: 20. Total points by the (five) starters, 51
Wow, big (freakin') deal... Wall out scored them by 1. But that 'fake news' made it sound like it's a landslide...
ONE LOUSY FREAKIN' POINT... Writers/bloggers at ESPN have nothing better to do.
And another stat: K. Thompson scored 60, only 2 less than the starting 5 of Pacers, and he only played 3 quarters!!
Totally meaningless statistics and selective information dissemination.
|Dec-07-16|| ||perfidious: <WannaBe....Totally meaningless statistics and selective information dissemination.>|
Sounds like a winner for a post in gubmint somewhere; that writer gets my vote as appointee to head the Ministry of Paper Clips.
|Dec-07-16|| ||WannaBe: <perfidious> Another 'stat' that bothers me when I see it, especially at ESPN and their stat driven bloggers/writers:|
So-and-So had the lowest ERA or highest batting average/slugging/OPS or whatever and the highest WAR since the post-steroid era, and a minimum blah-blah-blah innings pitched/played by a right fielder, who's a switch hitter or Lefty/righty.
HUH?!!??!?! What the Freakin' A is that stat supposed to mean?
|Dec-07-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: Phil Jackson comments on Carmelo's ball hog "tendency" and why he and the team are improved this year:|
<"Carmelo a lot of times wants to hold the ball longer than -- we have a rule: If you hold a pass two seconds, you benefit the defense. So he has a little bit of a tendency to hold it for three, four, five seconds, and then everybody comes to a stop," Jackson said in an interview with CBS Sports Network that aired Tuesday. >
|Dec-07-16|| ||HeMateMe: Looks like you called it, <Bob>. The Noah deal has been awful for NYC:|
I guess the Knicks thought Jo Noah was a reasonable risk, as there is already so much money in pro ball, and soon to be more when the next CBA is done, and the cap raised again. A healthy Rose + Noah = playoffs appearance.
It seems though, that when you gamble with an older, injured guy if it was someone with a nice shooting touch, like a tim Duncan or McHale, even when they get older and slower they still have use, as they can still score points when open. But Noah's whole game was ferocious 'get after that ball' attack, with zero finesse. If he can't be that pit bull out there then he is largely useless. According to the Times article the Knicks aren't even playing him.
|Dec-07-16|| ||WannaBe: Stanford's McCaffrey to enter NFL Draft. 11 teams in Pac-12 rejoice, well, OK, only 9, because 2 of them don't play Stanford next year.|
|Dec-07-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: < But Noah's whole game was ferocious 'get after that ball' attack, with zero finesse. If he can't be that pit bull out there then he is largely useless. >|
Compare his effectiveness to that of Al Horford, with whom he entered the league. Noah is worn out though his "frontal attack" style of play - and nothing much to offer beyond that.
The Knicks didn't mess up taking a risk on the $18 million yearly salary to Noah, they messed up giving him a <4 YEAR> contract instead of 1-2 years.
|Dec-07-16|| ||WannaBe: Dr. Evil have taken over FIFA??
|Dec-07-16|| ||saffuna: <Noah is worn out though his "frontal attack" style of play - and nothing much to offer beyond that.>|
What was it Neil Young said about that?
|Dec-07-16|| ||HeMateMe: "Mother Nature is on the run?"|
|Dec-07-16|| ||saffuna: I think it was "Better to burn out Than to fade away."|
|Dec-07-16|| ||HeMateMe: "Long may you run?"|
|Dec-08-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: <What was it Neil Young said about that?>|
Yeah, and I think that Joakim Noah has the ugliest jumper in NBA history, even uglier than Bill Cartwright, Shawn Marion or Jamal Wilkes.
At the very least it's the least practical jump shot in history, being horrendously slow and with a laughably low release that reminds you of how 7th-graders shoot:
|Dec-08-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: Cavaliers spank Knicks, get so bored in 2nd half that they start doing the Water Bottle Challenge on the bench while game is still going on:|
|Dec-08-16|| ||HeMateMe: Seeing Jo Noah shoot is kind of like watching an animal in the wild that has been injured and has had to change it's gait because of the injury.|
well, if the CBA gets done in 2018 and there is a "one contract amnesty" provision, the Knicks will either dump Melo or Noah, probably Noah.
Perhaps he could play tennis on the senior circuit? It's in his blood, after all.
|Dec-08-16|| ||WannaBe: Hey!! What are <YOU> doing here?|
|Dec-08-16|| ||Keyser Soze: <bob> Hilarious. That's utter embarrassing.|
|Dec-08-16|| ||HeMateMe: I guess when you have a posse you can command them to do silly stuff while the game is in progress. |
I suppose this was a response to Phil Jackson telling the media that Heat coach Spolestra had to call team president Pat Riley (a no nonsense guy) to make sure he was allowed to tell 'Bron he would not be allowed a stay over in Cleveland, back when LeBron was playing for the Miami Heat.
It's also in Cav player's contracts that they have to tell the media that LeBron is "the world's greatest player" 2x during the regular season and once during the playoffs, minimum.
If the Knicks had done that in the garden while Pat Riley had been coaching them the whole team would have been running punishment laps after practice the next day. The Cavs were punished, too. Coach Ty took them to Taco Bell instead of Chipotles, for the post game meal.
When the refs saw that crap they should have blown a technical on the Cavalier's bench.
|Dec-08-16|| ||WannaBe: Gonna be a cold one at KC tonight.
Some Raiders are now on the field in Kansas City and I've already seen a number of them return to the locker room for extra layers.
One was overhead saying "there's no way you're going to catch the ball without gloves as hard as DC (Derek Carr) throws it." It supposed to be 20 or so at kickoff with single digit wind chills.>
|Dec-08-16|| ||HeMateMe: when's the last time Raiders v. Chiefs was relevant? 30 years ago?|
|Dec-08-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: <I suppose this was a response to Phil Jackson telling the media that Heat coach Spolestra had to call team president Pat Riley (a no nonsense guy) to make sure he was allowed to tell 'Bron he would not be allowed a stay over in Cleveland, back when LeBron was playing for the Miami Heat.>|
I think you're right, it was definitely an "Eff you!!" move by Lebron. He made sure to get right out in front of the whole crowd when throwing the water bottle on the court late in the game.
I think that should be borderline fine-worthy. He actually threw the bottle onto the court once.
|Dec-08-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: Sixers just broke their 23-game road losing streak in New Orleans.|
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