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|May-05-16|| ||HeMateMe: JB, you have to get a look at Bill Walton's auto bio, just came out. He grew up in San Diego, a lot of good stuff in there about Cal. basketball.|
He describes the first basketball game he ever saw on television. His house didn't have TV. His father was a high school teacher, his mom a librarian. They taught TV was "worthless." I knew a few kids like that growing up whose parents wouldn't buy a TV, but I think they were just too cheap to do so.
Anyway, the first game "Billy" ever gets to see is the national college championship between undefeated Michigan v. UCLA. Michigan had Cazzie Russell and some other good players, UCLA had Keith Erickson and Gail Goodrich.
Walton's first thoughts were that the Bruins "were going to get killed" because MI was so much more physically imposing, bigger stronger guys. Goodrich's nickname was "stumpy," he was maybe 6-1, a bit small for high level basketball. Then the Bruins went into their polished sets, played a trapping, full court D, ran the MI team to exhaustion, did it "The Wooden way."
I think Keith Erickson had the hard job of being the rotating guy on their defense--leaving a man unguarded near the basket to double team someone near mid range jump shot area, but having to be fast enough to get back to the basket if it looks like the outside shooter is about to pass. a tuff job.
A lot of good stories in it. I had no idea that Walton played for the USA team in the world champions in Yugoslavia while still a high school teenager! The coach, supposedly a real prick, kept him on the bench in every game. But, he made the team. He is still the only USA teenager to play for the USA in the world championships or the Olympics. They finished 5th. The team was actually composed of semi pro guys, not NBA players.
|May-05-16|| ||Jim Bartle: I'll read it the moment I find a copy...
Keith Erickson was a defensive demon. He played the "safety" position in the UCLA press, the one man staying back under the basket. He was considered really tough those times when left alone against one, or even two, players.
Erickson was a valuable sub for the Warriors his rookie year, but they had to give him up in the expansion draft. He couldn't shoot when he entered the league, but he became an excellent outside shot years later with Phoenix.
1965 UCLA was a very good team, handled Michigan and Cazzie Russell easily in the Finals. Goodrich scored 40.
|May-05-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: I think I got 8/8 picks correct in the 1st round for NBA. (of course most were easy, but I did pick the Blazers)|
|May-05-16|| ||plang: I had forgotten that Luke Walton was named after Maurice Lucas|
|May-05-16|| ||Jim Bartle: What does Walton say about the UCLA teams? I think he really wanted Greg Lee (think Stockton) to play point guard ahead of Larry Hollyfield (think Marbury) or Tommy Curtis.|
|May-05-16|| ||kingfu: Gee, I did not even notice that the Sonics had moved to OKC. Seattle is supposed to be the coolest place in the World, but they could not figure out how to keep the team in town. |
Curry has a strained knee. He has to run hard and make hard cuts to get open for the 3s. If he comes back and hurts it again, he will be gone for a long time, not just the playoffs. If GS can beat Portland without Curry, why risk a serious injury?
JB, back when we were young and walked with the dinosaurs, there was only one NBA game on TV per week. The Sunday Morning game in beautiful black and white. And it was usually the Celtics because they were very good. And usually against whatever team had Wilt at the time.
And Bill Russell was the greatest player on the greatest NBA team of All Time. He invented defense in modern basketball. He played Center at 6'9". He blocked shots. He did not miss free throws when it counted. He got lots of rebounds. He made hot dogs. He parked cars.
He gave away 5 inches and about 50 pounds to Wilt Chamberlain. Therefore, he could not match Wilt's muscle game. Russell would harass and torment Wilt. Sometimes, they would let Wilt dunk, take the ball out fast and get a 5 on 4 fast break basket.
One time I could see Wilt was pissed at Russell. And he was going to By God dunk it in his f@#$%^& face. Wilt turned inside to dunk with both hands. Russell got both hands on the other side of the ball. They went up together and got the ball on the rim. Wilt and Russell both pushed as hard as they could.
They broke the rim! Wilt did not dunk. Russell got a blocked shot. It took an hour to replace the rim.
|May-05-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: <They broke the rim! Wilt did not dunk. Russell got a blocked shot. It took an hour to replace the rim.>|
Collapsible rims now solve that problem.
|May-05-16|| ||Virgil A: Wilt had a lot of beef fajitas. :)|
|May-05-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: <Wilt had a lot of beef fajitas. :)>|
He claimed to have had his fill of pink tacos, as well.
|May-05-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: Vegas odds are out!!
NE 7/1, Seattle 8/1, GB & Pitt 10/1 Carolina 11/1
Take the under on these:
Jared Goff Total Passing Yards in the 2016 Regular Season
Jared Goff Total TD Passes in the 2016 Regular Season
Take the over on these:
Ezekiel Elliott Total Rushing Yards in the 2016 Regular Season
Ezekiel Elliott Total TDs in the 2016 Regular Season
|May-05-16|| ||Shams: The Mariners are winning; here's one of the stranger explanations for their success so far.
This newspaper serves all of Snohomish County (population ~750k)
|May-05-16|| ||Bobsterman3000: Cano doesn't give 2 shifts about it...|
|May-05-16|| ||Jim Bartle: Last night David Ortiz came up with one out, runners on first and second. He hit a perfect double-play ground ball to shortstop. Unfortunately the shortstop was playing in short rightfield.|
|May-05-16|| ||Jim Bartle: There is such great stuff in that 1969 NBA video.
One sequence shows West shooting ("super Jerry West") and missing, Baylor ("super Elgin Baylor") getting the rebound and missing, and Wilt ("super Wilt Chamberlain") finally tipping it in.
And commentators/announcers do go overboard sometimes these days, but back in the 60s it was dull dull dull. Chris Schenkel, Curt Gowdy and most of the national announcers were just clueless.
|May-05-16|| ||perfidious: <plang> The 1905 Giants finished +275 (780 runs scored, 505 allowed), good for a record of 105-48, precisely what their Pythagorean expectation was.|
Christy Mathewson finished 31-9 with a 1.28 ERA and even hit two homers.
|May-05-16|| ||WannaBe: Maybe W. So can do a simul with the Cardinals.
|May-05-16|| ||Jim Bartle: Fortunately St. Louis is a national league team, so there's no designated checker.|
|May-05-16|| ||plang: <perfidious: <plang> The 1905 Giants finished +275 (780 runs scored, 505 allowed), good for a record of 105-48, precisely what their Pythagorean expectation was.>|
I remember it well. Not saying that the Cubs will do it over 6 months but 26 games is a long enough time to take note of.
|May-05-16|| ||WannaBe: From Jeremy Lim|
Currently, KC on pace for 84 wins, Cards for 83.75
|May-05-16|| ||perfidious: <plang> Remember it, do ya? Dang, yer <old>!|
|May-05-16|| ||HeMateMe: In his book Walton raves on about "discovering Chick Hearn," doing the Lakers broadcasts: "He jumped so high his head came down wet!"|
Walton says his greatest teammate was Maurice Lucas. "If you needed a guy moved out of the way or punched in the face, big Luke stood up and said "I'll take care of this." Walton got the seasonal MVP in '77, the year the 'Blazers won the title, but said "It should have gone to Maurice."
Well, maybe some false modestly there. Lucas was a tough guy rebounder and defender, but I don't think he had the polished offense game to really be an all star.
Still, every NBA champion seems to have a guy like that, one tuff S.O.B. who can rebound and defend the other team's best low post scorer: Draymond Green, Lebron james, Kevin Garnett, a young Tim Duncan, Rodman, Karl Malone, shaq, McHale. Sometimes it's a forward who doesn't score much, but you can't win a title without that guy.
well, maybe Dallas did, a few years ago. I don't think they had any tough guys on that team.
|May-05-16|| ||Jim Bartle: Charles Oakley is the classic. Buck Williams. Brian Grant. Lucius Jackson back with the Sixers. Dennis Rodman. Ben Wallace. Gotta have that guy.|
The 77/78 was a finesse team all-around, with the exception of Lucas, who gave them the toughness they needed. Excellent player.
|May-05-16|| ||Virgil A: Very impressed how GM Pat Riley handled the Chris Bosh issue.|
|May-05-16|| ||Keyser Soze: Miami has a great chance to get a commanding lead now. Didn't expect they going that far.|
|May-06-16|| ||HeMateMe: Bosh has had the blot clot problem for two years now? Don't they solve that by prescribing blood thiners, like Heparin?|
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