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|Apr-07-12|| ||Strongest Force: JB, your thoughts about Frank in the 40's make me think of one word: visionary. Frank was such a person as was the great Miles Davis. In 1969, influenced by Hendrix, willing to experiment, Miles set the tone for what Jazz would become in the next two decades. I think the name of the album was Witch's Brew. It was heavy on the electronics and way out stuff...way ahead of it's time.|
|Apr-07-12|| ||Jim Bartle: "Bitches Brew."|
|Apr-07-12|| ||keypusher: I believe this is where we post <famous athlete declares bankruptcy> stories.|
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
|Apr-07-12|| ||King Death: <keypusher> Let's weep for him as he's ~$250k in the hole while he's making over 100 grand a month. Then there's the fact that he's a putz.|
|Apr-07-12|| ||Jim Bartle: 240 pairs of Jordan Nike shoes.|
|Apr-07-12|| ||King Death: < Jim Bartle: 240 pairs of Jordan Nike shoes.>|
That's a nice hunk of the debt right there, buying up all of those sneaks.
|Apr-07-12|| ||Jim Bartle: I read a story once where a guy robbed a truck carrying 3000 Nike high-end shoes. Unfortunately for him they were all samples, and all the left foot.|
|Apr-07-12|| ||HeMateMe: <KD> $11.5M is huge. I had no idea it was that much. Frankly, I think the award is too large. There was no violence involved. She really cashed in. I hope, somehow, that Isiah Thomas had to pay some of that money, and that the company that owns the Garden didn't have to fork over the whole sum.|
Thomas was roundly disliked by the owners of the NBA semi pro league teams, which were farm clubs before the NBA started its own development league. He convinced them to make him the Commissioner of the semi pro league, then proceeded to curse out the owners, make unrealistic demands. He had zero progress to show, then resigned to take the Knicks job.
|Apr-07-12|| ||HeMateMe: Warren sapp also busted? 13 years in the NFL, all pro monies. One thing I've never understood about the athletes is that so many came from poor, overburdened households, where there was a single mother working two jobs to support several kids. When bills got paid late, or didn't get paid at all, you'd think the kids would grow up knowing the value of a dollar, and be better at putting some of it in the bank.|
|Apr-07-12|| ||efvaatn: why sports?|
|Apr-07-12|| ||King Death: <efvaatn: why sports?>|
Why not? If it weren't for sports this strong but unknown player wouldn't have any comments here and you wouldn't have posted either.
|Apr-08-12|| ||HeMateMe: This is where you can get a discussion going on Tug McGraw, the Worm, Wilt, Wayne Gretzky and the Kentucky Wildcats. Old School and New School. One stop shopping.|
That Kentucky forward who was the star of the tournament has said he is going into the NBA draft this year. No surprise there; he'll probably go No. 1. John Calipari knows he can't keep any of his top players for more than a year.
Calipari must be a pretty good coach, or recruiter, or both. I think he got in trouble a few years ago, recruiting violations, something like that. He was forced to resign somewhere, and left the school holding the bag--they lost the athletic scholarships, needed to be a Div I winner. Well, if you win somewhere new, people forget where you cheated earlier, I guess. He washed out of the pros. I think he was coaching in New Jersey. Everyone who coaches the New Jesey Nets gets fired; its a rite of passage if you're a coach.
Still, making it as a coach in the NBA is the acid test, IMO, for determining is a coach is really, really good. So many good college coaches can't cut it in the NBA. Same thing in football. Smart ones like Coach K and Geno Auriema stay put.
|Apr-08-12|| ||Jim Bartle: On the other hand, I bet a lot of pro coaches couldn't cut it in college, at least at the big schools. The two require many differing skills. Football and basketball both.|
I think Calipari recruits these guys saying, "I'm going to teach you basketball for a year, and then you're ready for the pros." Plus a few other inducements, I suspect, including cash (from others) at times.
A few years ago Mike Montgomery left Stanford after 15 very successful years or more, to take big money from the Warriors. Total disaster. Now he's at Cal, and Johnny Dawkins at Stanford.
|Apr-08-12|| ||Strongest Force: The Mets and CA, starved for attention, happy as pigs in the mud with key wins; but will they be giddy when the smoke clears?|
|Apr-08-12|| ||HeMateMe: Lets have some pity for the Mets fans. Met ownership just got pounded with a horrific court decision. They owe something like $180M to Bernie Made-Off victims. Seems that when Bernie phony fund was doing very well the Wilpon family, who own the Mets made a ton of money off of this fund. Monies in the tens of $millions. The court decided that the relationship between the Wilpons and Bernie Made-Off was a bit too cozy, and as large investors they bear some responsibility for knowing he was a fraud.|
Did the Wilpons know that Made-Off was a house of cards? Hard to say. The SEC didn't know, or at least didn't prosecute Made-Off. If the SEC and their professionals didn't know, I don't see why the Wilpon family should be expected to know anything.
What may have hurt the Wilpons is (I think--memeory sketchy) there is some recurring social activities involving the Wilpons and Madeoffs, parties, charity events, private get togethers. I still don't see what evidence there is that the Wilpons knew anything, but then I haven't been reading the story too closely as it has been reported.
That chunk of money lost may hurt the Mets ability to go shopping ofr free agents, or keep their own best players. That's why baseball needs a salary cap. Too bad for the Wilpons, too late now.
|Apr-08-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Hey, if they couldn't see Bobby Bonilla was a fraud, why should they be able to see Madoff?|
|Apr-08-12|| ||HeMateMe: You should have been a lawyer, Jim!|
|Apr-09-12|| ||Granny O Doul: <Remember when Phil Jackson benched Scottie Pippen for the final play in a playoff game when Pippen was pissed that Jackson called the play for Kukoc?>|
Pippen walked off; refused to go out for the play when it was not called for him.
|Apr-09-12|| ||HeMateMe: Right, Pip refused to answer the bell. I saw that game, couldnt believe it. I think it was against the Knicks in the Eastern Conference finals. This was a non-Michael year, and the Knicks still couldn't get over the hump and win a championship.|
|Apr-09-12|| ||King Death: One question: didn't Madoff have a relative in the SEC that looked the other way while he was hatching his scheme?|
|Apr-09-12|| ||HeMateMe: Maybe so, but I don't think that would save someone hiding that much fraud. My guess is that the SEC investigators simply didn't think that a ponzi scheme could go that long; it would have had to have collapsed. Give Madoff credit for having some criminal smarts. He kept a large enough reserve in the fund to handle all withdrawals, for some twenty years. Most ponzi schemers would have looted the fund much earlier and fled town.|
|Apr-11-12|| ||HeMateMe: Miami Steve? Steve Nash, former MVP point guard in Phoenix, has an expiring contract this summer. He has said he's willing to leave if Phoenix doesn't make serious moves to improve their roster.|
He's 38, but still moves like that skinny kid in gym class you could never keep up with.
He has said that he's willing to go play in Miami with LeBron and friends. Maybe a good combination, as Nash has good hands and doesn't care how many shots he gets. Especially, that part about the shots.
|Apr-11-12|| ||Strongest Force: Yes, Nash would be good for Lobron and company. They need a better point guard.|
|Apr-11-12|| ||King Death: It's been suggested by a writer somewhere that James should play the point. Even without a lot of size up front for the Heat I don't know how anybody would defend that.|
|Apr-11-12|| ||HeMateMe: Is he then a defensive liability against a smaller, quicker man? Magic had Kareem to help out on defensive, Miami...?|
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