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|Jul-18-12|| ||HeMateMe: Lakers are in the news tonight, trying to make a move to get Dwight Howard. They are shrewd, and the opportunities in Los Angeles are a natural draw. They may yet get him, and solve their center position question for the next ten years. Greedy bast**ds.|
I still think Brooklyn is better for Howard--a little lower profile, and he can be the alpha male, no orders from Kobe, no forced schmoozing wit tinsel town folks. A smart basketball town that will respect a hard working guy.
|Jul-19-12|| ||HeMateMe: Roundball trivia:
How many different countries presently (2012) have at least one player on an NBA roster?
|Jul-19-12|| ||NakoSonorense: Argentina, Brazil, Puerto Rico, Canada, Germany, Serbia, Spain, France, Congo, Slovenia, Turkey, ... I'll go ahead and guess 20.|
|Jul-19-12|| ||Strongest Force: As I see it, the Houston situation could make Lin an all-star. I think he need a team which looks for him to lead. This means he will have the green-light to shoot or pass as he chooses. If he can put up 20/9 numbers his popularity will make him a allstar and put egg on the face of Dolan.|
|Jul-19-12|| ||Jim Bartle: If the Lakers end up with Howard instead of Bynum, they'll be really tough. But they'd have to give up more, I assume.|
|Jul-19-12|| ||I play the Fred: Well, there is a vacuum in Houston right now. They seem to lack an identity, although Kevin Martin is still there and he's a hell of a scorer in the Reggie Miller mold. Neither Lin nor Martin are known for defense, but if Lin could regain much/most of his best form from last year, it's a pretty lethal backcourt. But Martin being around would probably keep Lin's scoring down some.|
|Jul-19-12|| ||Shams: <Well, there is a vacuum in Houston right now.>|
No wonder NASA set up shop there.
|Jul-19-12|| ||Strongest Force: I wonder if Brooklyn can get Brnum...?|
|Jul-19-12|| ||Strongest Force: Bynum has said he will not sign any long-term contracts with anyone; i.e., the Laker's trade for Howard would mean short-season-deals for both Howard and Bynum. They would be unrestickted after that and "up for grabs".|
|Jul-19-12|| ||Strongest Force: Actually, I am not sure if Lakers can get Howard long-term for Bynum. However if Bynum sticks to what he says Brooklyn will have a shot.|
|Jul-19-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Bynum-for-Howard straight up would be a steal for the Lakers. I can't believe Orlando would have to, or want to, dump him for so little.|
|Jul-19-12|| ||HeMateMe: <How many different countries presently (2012) have at least one player on an NBA roster?|
40 countries contribute a total of 88 players to NBA rosters in 2012.
|Jul-20-12|| ||unferth: <Jim Bartle> Bynum is 90% the player Howard is, at least, and two years younger; he may well have the better career going forward. I've been among his biggest supporters for years, but Howard would be a better fit with Nash & Gasol, and Bynum has turned into such a jackass that I won't be sorry to see him go.|
Orlando has really painted themselves into a corner, though. If they don't take Bynum, they can take a package from Houston or Cleveland that isn't as good as the one they turned down from the Nets--or they can hang onto him & continue the circus until January, at which point they can offer him to the Nets again for less than they could have had a month ago. they've got a gun to their heads, but they sure don't seem to realize it.
|Jul-20-12|| ||perfidious: If James Dolan was worried about the cap hit he'd take in 2015 for signing Lin, here's an immediate, sobering little short-term dose of reality:|
|Jul-20-12|| ||HeMateMe: The idea is to win basketball games, not sell T-shirts in Taiwan.|
For once, the Knicks decided to wait, and not throw money at a problem. Lin is simply unproven, and may be out of the league in two years.
Getting Jason Kidd is the waiting move. He can still play, deliver the ball to Amere and ME-lo. Other more proven point guards will appear on the horizon.
|Jul-20-12|| ||perfidious: <HMM> As I said, time will tell-I've never taken a view that this is clearly right or wrong. This can only be fairly judged ex post facto.|
|Jul-20-12|| ||Strongest Force: Time will most certainly tell but there was a proven success formular that has always been around the Knicks and one they ignored or couldn't understand: how the Yankees could develop and keep young talent that would become stars. All Dolan cares about is proven star power and putting fannies in the seats.|
|Jul-20-12|| ||unferth: this is the most incisive explication of Dolan I've ever read:|
|Jul-20-12|| ||perfidious: <Strongest Force> Even Yankees have only enjoyed that sort of success since King George turned day-to-day affairs over to his sons; surely you'll remember how, from the early days of free agency on, the elder Steinbrenner was in the habit, as <HMM> eloquently put it, of 'throw(ing) money at a problem.' That's a strategy which keeps a team on a treadmill and they never develop from within. In the old days, a player like Brett Gardner would have been thrown in on a trade for the sexiest FA of the moment. As a Red Sox fan, I've seen more than my share too, as young talents went for washed-up veterans such as Dante Bichette. These days, at least minor leaguers in those organisations have a chance of playing for the big club.|
|Jul-20-12|| ||Jim Bartle: The Knicks should take some stem cells from Walt Frazier and clone him. What a great player, and he put fannies in the seats as well.|
Game 7, NBA Finals, 1970, matched up against Jerry West: 36 points, 19 assists, 7 rebounds. Steals not recorded.
|Jul-20-12|| ||perfidious: Frazier could play a little.|
|Jul-20-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Perfidious: True! Look at the 1998 and beyond teams. Who was in the starting lineup? Young players Jeter and Jorge , lifelong Yankee Bernie Williams, Paul O'Neill and Tino Martinez (trades, nobody great sent away), and average players at third and leftfield. The only big-name player they signed was Chuck Knoblauch at second base.|
It was not a big-name team, at least on the field. The pitching staff was a little different, with Cone and Wells, plus Orlando Hernandez from Cuba.
|Jul-20-12|| ||perfidious: <Jim> A point regarding that 1998 team: do you remember how King George was forced out of daily operations for the team in 1990, as punishment for hiring gambler Howie Spira to get dirt on Dave Winfield? |
It was only when Steinbrenner got removed that Gene Michael had a free hand and the team started developing talent from within the organisation.
Those names you mentioned: Williams, Jeter, et al were the foundation stones for their run, along with FA signings.
|Jul-20-12|| ||Strongest Force: It is my contention that the greatest teams have cores that begins and ends with those teams: Magic, Russle, Bird, Clyde, Dollar-Bill, Reed, Jeter, Rivera, Bernie: covers the Boston and Yank dynasties and good Knick and Laker teams. Other pieces are hired out to complete the picture but this requires skilled management.|
|Jul-21-12|| ||HeMateMe: What the Yankees have accomplished is easy. Buying talent in baseball is something a ten year old kid could do. |
.350 hitter? Lets offer him $10M more than his present club will offer him on his next contract. Same thing with pitchers and relievers. It's easy to build a winning baseball team if you can just outbid the other teams for talent, with no salary cap to worry about.
Basketball is more about chemistry. Melo + Stourdmire isn't necessarily a great team, despite their fine individual numbers. When Dave Chekitts ran the Garden, the Knicks always had competitive teams. This upcoming year they'll win about 35 games, maybe or maybe not be in the lottery.
BTW, has anyone seen the spoof Steve Nash playing Vito Corleone, from <The Godfather> film? pretty funny. I saw it on the S.I. website; it's probably on utube.
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