|Feb-06-09|| ||Jim Bartle: This is in response to Fincher`s list of great albums on the Carlsen page, February 6, 2009.|
It’s a pretty good list, if you take into consideration it ends about 1985. I’ll let slide the absence of The Band, Ry Cooder, Randy Newman, Bonnie Raitt and great SF bands like Jefferson Airplane and the Grateful Dead.
--Neil Young, a long, brilliant and varied career. I would have picked different records as the best, though.
--Miles Davis, Bitches Brew. Didn’t like when I heard it, but that was long ago. I’ve listened to “Kind of Blue” about a hundred times. I also really like former Miles pianist McCoy Tyner, and Miles disciple Roland Kirk.
--Fleetwood Mac, Rumours, Great, but I like “Bare Trees” more.
--Elvis Presley, The Sun Sessions. Absolutely great.
--Beatles, Revolver. You could pick any of a dozen. My favorites are the White Album and Abbey Road.
--Dylan, Blood on the Tracks. Same as with the Beatles. Tangled Up in Blue.
--Stones, Emotional Rescue, Sticky Fingers. Same as Beatles, Dylan. I like Beggars Banquet and especially Let It Bleed.
--CSNY, Déjà vu. good not great.
--Springsteen, Born to Run, “I want you to put the chicken fingers down!¨
--Tom Waits, Rain Dogs. Great songs, but I’ve always liked them more when sung by others.
—Talking Heads, Stop Making Sense. Oh yes.
—Van Morrison, Veedon Fleece. See Beatles, Dylan. Could choose any one of a dozen.
--Coltrane, Joni Mitchell, Marley, Who, Carole King, VU, Dire Straits. All great.
--Jimi Hendrix, Electric Ladyland. Brilliant from beginning to end. I particularly like the side with long, impressionistic songs, with the “Mermaid” song.
--Frank Zappa, Sheik yerbouti. Haven’t heard it, but can’t be better than the Mothers’ Sgt. Petters satire, “We’re Only In It For The Money.”
—Bowie, Roxy Music, Pink Floyd, Queen, Led Zep. Not so much.
|Feb-06-09|| ||Jim Bartle: Oops, that's "Sgt. Pepper's."|
|Feb-06-09|| ||Jim Bartle: Oops redux. Roland Kirk was a Coltrane disciple, not a Miles disciple.|
Counted up 14 on the list that I've seen in concert, though a couple were just for a couple of songs during somebody else's show.
|Feb-06-09|| ||zarg: <Pink Floyd, Queen, Led Zep. Not so much>|
Hey Jim, don't you ruin my many excellent memories with their music!
From Queen, I rather pick "Jazz" or "The Game", from "Pink Floyd", while "Dark side of the moon" is brilliant" and every kid on the block checked their stereo with that album, I like to nominate "I wish you where here" too.
I rather replace Frank Zappa, Bowie, Roxy Music, with
Little Feat, "Dixie Chicken", "Fat Man In The Bathtub", "Rocket In My Pocket" ...
Wilson Pickett, "In The Midnight Hour", "Land Of 1000 Dances", "Mustang Sally"
Creedence Clearwater Revival...
Instead of Clash, I rather take U2, saw both live about the same time.
|Feb-06-09|| ||zarg: <Talking Heads, Stop Making Sense. Oh yes. >|
I preferred <Simple Minds>, but listened to both.
|Feb-06-09|| ||Jim Bartle: Well, I don't claim to be the arbiter of taste. You like those groups, doesn't make any difference if I don't (as much--I don't turn them off on the radio). After seeing Led Zep I think my ears bled for a week, though.|
Now about Little Feat, didn't Spot-check Billy get down on his hands and knees and say "hey, Mama hey, can I check your oil, all right?"
Plus of course the Rock and Roll Doctor had "Two degrees in bebop, a Ph. D. in swing," he was "a master of rhythm, a rock and roll king."
|Feb-07-09|| ||zarg: <Well, I don't claim to be the arbiter of taste.>|
Don't worry, as a teen I couldn't stand much of the music at the time, and considered it my biggest tragedy in life to have been born to late for Woodstock 69.
From Grace Slick and Janis Joplin to Britney Spears, from Wilson Pickett and Richie Havens (Freedom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-d5...) to Michael Jackson.
|Feb-07-09|| ||Jim Bartle: Well, I was on the wrong side of the country for Woodstock, though I suspect it was not the paradise it's made out to be. I did go to its "evil twin," Altamont, in December of 69.|
|Feb-07-09|| ||rogge: <I preferred <Simple Minds>, but listened to both.> |
<New Gold Dream (81-82-83-84)> is still worth listening to...
<From Queen, I rather pick "Jazz" or "The Game"> Yes, two of the best. Still, <News Of The World> (including Spread Your Wings) ranks as #1.
<Beatles, Revolver. You could pick any of a dozen. My favorites are the White Album and Abbey Road.>
1. <Abbey Road>, 2. <White Album>.
David Sylvian from <Japan> is a favourite of mine, especially <Gone To Earth>
|Feb-07-09|| ||zarg: <<New Gold Dream (81-82-83-84)> is still worth listening to...>|
Yeah, that was indeed an excellent album! However, these days it's more likely I play <Coldplay>, <Nirvana>, <Metallica>, <Guns N Roses>...
|Feb-07-09|| ||zarg: <Jim>
You missed one of the big moments in the history of Rock, but just being around in those days... would have been really awesome. Did you live in SF?
|Feb-07-09|| ||Jim Bartle: Lived around Palo Alto, went to lots of shows at Fillmore, Winterland, Berkeley Community Theater, etc. Plus the SF bands would play just about anywhere in those days. The Grateful Dead played a concert in my high school gym (that was in the East Bay).|
About Woodstock, all the news reports the first couple of days were that it was a total catastrophe, with all the rain, mud and shortage of food. It was only slowly that what really happened came out.
|Feb-07-09|| ||rogge: <However, these days it's more likely I play <Coldplay>, <Nirvana>, <Metallica>, <Guns N Roses>...>|
All on my Ipod playlist. You demonstrate good taste in music, <zarg> ;)
|Feb-07-09|| ||zarg: <rogge: All on my Ipod playlist. You demonstrate good taste in music, <zarg> ;)>|
Hehe... and I didn't even include the "Ry Cooder" of the west coast, but I really find <Bjørn Berge> outstanding, particularly so, when seeing him live.
|Feb-07-09|| ||zarg: <Jim: The Grateful Dead played a concert in my high school gym (that was in the East Bay).>|
What, nothing less?! Life is so unfair..!!!
At least I had a room mate for a year, who was an excellent guitar player and knew all the tunes by Ry Cooder by hart.
|Feb-07-09|| ||zarg: R&B at it's best, Ry Cooder - Down In Mississippi:
Here is the more funky Bjørn Berge live:
|Feb-07-09|| ||Jim Bartle: The Dead show at my high school (May 69, I was a college freshman) was funny. The kids had gone nuts for a noisemaking band called Frumious Bandersnatch earlier, but sat on their hands while the Dead played. I mean, only polite applause the two or three times the band actually stopped playing rather than just segueing into the next song.|
At midnight the lights came on--obviously that was the time the school had agreed to--and ninety percent of the audience just walked out! The band was playing "Lovelight," and just kept on playing and playing, for another half hour at least, with all the lights on, for the forty or fifty people who had stayed to listen.