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| timhortons: zarg be real or shut up! |
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Nov-03-09
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| rogge: <<+5 is insane> Yes, Ivanchuk won with +3 in 2008, while Kramnik won in great style in 2007 with +4.> With this year's line-up even +4 is pretty insane... |
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| timhortons: levon will win here. |
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| zarg: I've just looked up Carlsen's classical score since Oct 2007 against the "horde", and it was not a nice read: Aronian +5 -4 =7
Anand +1 -2 =6
Moro +0 -0 =2
Svidler +0 -1 =4
Pono +0 -1 =0
Leko +1 -2 =7
Gelfand +0 -1 =3
Ivanchuk +2 -2 =9
Kramnik +1 -2 =3
negative vs Anand, Svidler, Pono, Leko, Gelfand, Kramnik! equal vs Ivanchuk and Moro
and positive ONLY vs Aronian |
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Nov-03-09
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| rogge: OK, to distract people from that <unpleasant> score list, I gotta correct you. 4 of those Aronian games are from <June> 2007.... |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| e5d5UziGalil: All THESE statistical Numbers don't mean anything as these Combatants duke it out in the actual Tal Mem Tournament.
The ELO numbers will make their play into the die hard fans, but no influence to the actual OTB games the players themselves will unleash. Nerves, Prep, and a little BIT of Luck are your Buddies in these tournament conditions.
What matters and count are the games' ideas these chess virtuosos will play out - in real time - right there, in the VERY course of the Tournament itself. |
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Nov-03-09
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| zarg: <rogge>
Blame FIDE, their page said that the statistics was based on games submitted from Oct 2007 and onwards. :)My rationale for +3, was two wins with white and 1 with black. However, looking at Carlsen's score against these players, "just" getting 0 looks as a rather good result for him. *lol* |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| slomarko: <and positive ONLY vs Aronian> once against statistic confirm my impression. quite clearly i have the best chess understanding on this site. |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| ontocaustic: when did carlson become high school? is colledge on the envisionable horizon for him? or maybe he can plays chess as he strikeforces opopents into near death experiences and hazards into biology or if his normwegian is smarttastic to a good extant then his own ermitage into lessons can take place over bowls of chess and even he can write books for chess theory because if there is a hope for humans versus the unsouled silken web it must be through only a great faith in his viking prowl or else the machines wipe us down like they do from kasparow forth |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| Blunderdome: By the way, the Carlsen page recently passed The World v Timmerman in total posts, moving it into third place behind Wesley So and the Kibitzer's Cafe. |
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Nov-03-09
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| Eyal: <zarg: I've just looked up Carlsen's classical score since Oct 2007 against the "horde", and it was not a nice read: Aronian +5 -4 =7
Anand +1 -2 =6
Moro +0 -0 =2
Svidler +0 -1 =4
Pono +0 -1 =0
Leko +1 -2 =7
Gelfand +0 -1 =3
Ivanchuk +2 -2 =9
Kramnik +1 -2 =3
negative vs Anand, Svidler, Pono, Leko, Gelfand, Kramnik! equal vs Ivanchuk and Moro
and positive ONLY vs Aronian>
Several of these results are actually from before October 2007, so in order to cheer things up a bit for people here you might have included the 3 early wins against Moro as well... Actually, I think previous results against some of these players hardly mean anything, both because of the small number of games and because Carlsen has improved dramatically since some of these games were played - since he got so many invitations to super-tournaments so early, his results against some of the top players are a bit skewed in this regard. For example, the single loss to Pono is from Corus 2007 and he hasn't played a classical game against him since; the single loss to Gelfand is from Tal Memorial 2006 and he has played against him only two classical games since; and he has played only one classical game against Moro since Linares 2007. Of the players that Carlsen has played more regularly, two that he used to have consistently bad scores against are Anand and Leko. But this year the tide seems to have changed - he scored his first wins against both, and has an overall plus score against them (+1 =1 vs. Anand in Linares; +1 =3 vs. Leko in Dortmund and Pearl Springs). All this is not to deny, of course, that he's got a VERY tough tournament to look forward to... |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| returnoftheking: Interesting. Tactikal made 10 posts in his cg. career.
His first on the So page, congratulating a scandinavian master with a win over So. The 2nd page he visited was the spice cup page, where he again tried to piss of So fans. This page is the third and only other page where he posted. Here he only makes posts against Tim and Nakamura.
I think we can safely assume that this is a <sock puppet> account; something so many Carlsen fans are talking about. Apparently because they have them, for based on his posts this is clearly a Magnus fan trying to piss of the fans of the other currently popular players.
How much more silly can it get? Stay tuned. |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| Ghost of Merlin: logical deduction by <rotk> this Tacti<k>al must be a sock puppet... to use <k> instead of <c>, you must be from Eastern Europe or Scandinavia?? |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| Shrunken Head: Sometimes it pays to be patient...
Don't count the eggs...
Good luck to ALL players at the Tal Memorial. |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| Shrunken Head: I think the funny thing here is that, ontocaustic is nearer to the truth compared to some regular croakers here. rotk's deduction must be true! Tactikal's a sock puppet and a sucker for lies and a non-Carlsen fans hater. His head must be shrunked to oblivion! |
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Nov-03-09
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| Pyke: <Shrunken Head:
rotk's deduction must be true! Tactikal's a sock puppet and a sucker for lies and a non-Carlsen fans hater.>Funny thing to say for someone who has only four posts himself. |
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Nov-04-09
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| tpstar: But there is only one poster around
Who typically writes one line at a time
With a single return in between for spacing
Except not much capitalization and no Dot Dot Dots
Therefore it's a sock puppet posing as a sock puppet
Probably <ILikeGhosts> or <ILikeShrunkenHeads> At least he's increasing the post count |
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| Nov-04-09 |
| Shrunken Head: Pyke, To my understanding, if a word or in this case, a handle is underlined you can click it. I've read previous kibitzes of some posters here by clicking their handle. Maybe I'll do the same with you. |
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Nov-04-09
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| rogge: <slomarko: <and positive ONLY vs Aronian> once against statistic confirm my impression. quite clearly i have the best chess understanding on this site.> You're wrong about Aronian (according to Carlsen's chess understanding). And your predictions suck ;) |
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| Nov-04-09 |
| returnoftheking: It's like reading a detective novel! |
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| Nov-04-09 |
| frogbert: <Therefore it's a sock puppet posing as a sock puppet> well, these incarnations and dupes that immediately start commenting on carlsen page sociology disappear from my view as fast as they appear, basically. no loss... |
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| Nov-04-09 |
| frogbert: i don't think anyone will put up +4 in this edition of tal memorial. the only candidates for that atm would be kramnik, ivanchuk and carlsen, in order of increasing likelyhood - but it's still very unlikely for anyone to do that. |
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| Nov-04-09 |
| frogbert: ivanchuk might also finish shared last, based on his previous event - but you can't base anything on ivanchuk's previous event. ;o) |
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| Nov-04-09 |
| Roga: Ivanchuk is _the_ joker of chess's deck of card! But like frogbert, I do not expect +4 from anyone, even not from Chucky! |
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| Rolfo: First round starts tomorrow or the day after? |
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