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Carlsen 
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Magnus Carlsen
Number of games in database: 1,668
Years covered: 2000 to 2014
Last FIDE rating: 2863 (2855 rapid, 2948 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2882
Overall record: +419 -176 =463 (61.5%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      610 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (166) 
    B90 B40 B30 B43 B46
 Ruy Lopez (105) 
    C78 C65 C84 C67 C88
 Slav (57) 
    D15 D17 D10 D12 D11
 Nimzo Indian (49) 
    E32 E20 E21 E36 E54
 French Defense (38) 
    C11 C00 C02 C10 C03
 Semi-Slav (34) 
    D43 D45 D47 D44
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (165) 
    B33 B30 B22 B90 B77
 Ruy Lopez (115) 
    C67 C95 C65 C69 C78
 Queen's Indian (73) 
    E15 E12 E17 E13 E18
 Nimzo Indian (42) 
    E34 E32 E21 E20 E55
 Slav (38) 
    D12 D15 D17 D11 D10
 Ruy Lopez, Closed (36) 
    C95 C91 C88 C96 C90
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Carlsen vs S Ernst, 2004 1-0
   Carlsen vs H Harestad, 2003 1-0
   J L Hammer vs Carlsen, 2003 0-1
   Kramnik vs Carlsen, 2008 0-1
   Anand vs Carlsen, 2013 0-1
   Carlsen vs Karjakin, 2013 1-0
   Carlsen vs Anand, 2012 1-0
   Carlsen vs Gelfand, 2013 1-0
   Carlsen vs A Groenn, 2005 1-0
   Carlsen vs Aronian, 2008 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004)
   Anand - Carlsen World Championship (2013)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Gausdal Chess Classics (2007)
   Arctic Chess Challenge (2007)
   Tata Steel (2013)
   Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2009)
   King's Tournament (2010)
   Norwegian Championship (2005)
   Norwegian Championship (2006)
   Corus Wijk aan Zee Group B (2006)
   Norwegian Championship (2004)
   Midnight Sun Chess Challenge (2006)
   Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2009)
   Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2010)
   World Chess Cup (2007)
   FIDE World Cup (2005)
   XXII Reykjavik Open (2006)

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   Match Carlsen! by amadeus
   The Carlsen Chronicles by MoonlitKnight
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 2000-2010 (Part 1) by Anatoly21
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   magnus carlsen .. by sk.sen
   Carlsen Favorites by chocobonbon
   Carlsen's winning miniatures by alexmagnus
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 2000-2010 (Part 2) by Anatoly21
   Magnus Carlsens Meisterwerke by tmh13
   Carlsen in world championships:2005-07 by alexmagnus

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MAGNUS CARLSEN
(born Nov-30-1990, 23 years old) Norway

[what is this?]
Magnus Carlsen is the 16th undisputed World Champion, winning the crown from Viswanathan Anand in November 2013.

Landmarks

FM (2002); IM (2003); GM (2004); vice-World U12 World Champion (2002); Norwegian Champion (2006); Candidate (2007 & 2013); World Champion (2013); World Rapid Champion (2014) and World Blitz Champion (2009 & 2014).

Carlsen has been the world's top ranked player since January 2010, apart from six months between November 2010 and June 2011 when he was #2, and possesses the highest standard FIDE rating ever posted, as well as the highest ever live rating.

Background:

He was born in Tønsberg, Vestfold. His parents are Sigrun Øen and Henrik Carlsen, both of whom are engineers. His father taught him chess at the age of eight after which he soon played his first tournament, a junior (Miniputt) Norwegian championship. He was coached by seven-time Norwegian Champion Simen Agdestein and by Curt Hansen. He won the title of International Master in 2003 at the age of 12 years 7 months and 25 days. In 2004, after having gained over 300 rating points in little over a year, he became the second-youngest grandmaster in chess history at the time, behind only Sergey Karjakin, at the age of 13 years 4 months and 27 days. Parimarjan Negi later pipped his record by five days to become the second youngest grandmaster ever.

Championships:

<Age>: Carlsen won the Norwegian U11 Championship in 2000 and the U10 Nordic Championship in 2001. In 2002, he placed =1st in the Open Norwegian Junior Championship with 5.5/7, but easily won the same event the following year with 6/6. Carlsen started with 4/4 at the 2002 U12 European Championship but faded to finish sixth. In the 2002 U12 World Championship a few weeks later, Carlsen was sole leader coming into the last round, but was held to a draw by David Howell, enabling Ian Nepomniachtchi to equal his score and to win on tiebreak. He placed =3rd at the 2003 U14 European Championship, half a point behind Sergei Zhigalko and Tornike Sanikidze, a short time later placing =9th with 7.5/11 at the World U14 Championship in Halkidiki.

<National and Continental>: A couple of weeks after being eliminated from the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004) (see below), he placed =1st in the 2004 Norwegian Championship. However, after a two-game play-off match with co-leader and until then, six-time Norwegian champion, Berge Ostenstad was drawn, Østenstad was declared winner on tiebreak. In the 2005 Norwegian Chess Championship, Carlsen again finished in a shared first place, this time with his mentor Simen Agdestein. A rapid game playoff between them resulted in Agdestein’s victory by 3.5-2.5 (+2 -1 =3). Carlsen finally won the Norwegian Championship in 2006, after defeating Simen Agdestein in a tie-break match.

Carlsen’s first and and so far only participation in the continental championship provided a solid 22-point boost to his rating when he scored 8/13 in the 6th European Individual Championship (2005).

<World>: Carlsen qualified for the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004), but was eliminated in the first round tiebreaker by Levon Aronian. His hopes to become a contender for the World Championship in the future took a big step forward by placing tenth at the FIDE World Cup (2005), becoming the youngest player ever to qualify for the Candidates. In his first Candidates match in Elista in May, he drew 3-3 in the six slow games of the Candidates Match: Aronian - Carlsen (2007) before losing in rapid-play tie-breaks. He reached the final four in the World Chess Cup (2007) before being defeated in the semi-finals by the eventual winner, Gata Kamsky. Carlsen's final placing in the 2007 World Cup qualified him for participation in the FIDE Grand Prix for 2008-09. Soon afterwards he tied for first place in the Baku Grand Prix (2008), the first round of FIDE's inaugural Grand Prix series. Carlsen later withdrew from the Grand Prix cycle despite his excellent result in Baku, complaining about "dramatic changes to ... regulations." and that “…changing the rules dramatically in the middle of a cycle is simply unacceptable.”

On the basis of his rating, Carlsen qualified for the Candidates Tournament that would determine the challenger to World Champion Viswanathan Anand in 2012. In November 2010, however, Carlsen announced he was withdrawing from the Candidates tournament. Carlsen described the 2008–12 cycle as not "...sufficiently modern and fair", and added that "Reigning champion privileges, the long (five year) span of the cycle, changes made during the cycle resulting in a new format (Candidates) that no World Champion has had to go through since Kasparov, puzzling ranking criteria as well as the shallow ceaseless match-after-match concept are all less than satisfactory in my opinion." Carlsen qualified for the World Championship Candidates (2013) that was played in London, again on the basis of his rating. He placed =1st with Vladimir Kramnik on 8.5/14 after both players lost their last round games, but as the first tiebreaker (score against each other in the tournament which was 1-1) failed to break the tie, he won on the second tiebreak which stipulated that the player with the greater number of wins takes first place; he had scored five wins to Kramnik's four. During the tournament, Carlsen set a new live rating record of 2878.9 after he defeated Gelfand in round 10.

In November 2013, Carlsen won the Anand - Carlsen World Championship (2013) that was staged in Chennai. The first four games were drawn before Carlsen won the fifth and sixth games. The seventh and eighth games were drawn, with Carlsen then winning the ninth game and drawing the tenth and last game to win by 6.5-3.5 (+3 =7). He will defend his title in November 2014 in a rematch against Viswanathan Anand, who won the World Chess Championship Candidates (2014) that was held in March 2014.

Classical Tournaments:

Carlsen earned his first IM norm in January 2003 at the Gausdal Troll Masters when he scored 7/10. His second IM norm came in June 2003 at the Salongernas IM-tournament in Stockholm where he scored 6/9 and his third IM norm came in the following month at the 2003 Politiken Cup in Copenhagen where he scored 8/11. In early 2004, Carlsen made a major international impact when he won Corus C with 10.5/13, easily winning his first grandmaster norm and earning his entry to the Corus B in 2005. Carlsen obtained his second grandmaster norm in the 3rd Aeroflot Festival (2004) in February and his third grandmaster norm at the sixth 6th Dubai Open (2004), held between 18th and 28th April.

Soon afterwards he placed 3rd at the 12th Sigeman & Co Chess Tournament (2004) followed later that month with a solid =3rd place at the Politiken Cup 2004, a half point behind the leaders Darmen Sadvakasov and compatriot Leif Erlend Johannessen. In October 2005, he won the Gausdal Bygger'n Masters in Norway with 8/9 ahead of 9 other grandmasters. He continued to improve in 2006, tying Alexander Motylev for first place in Corus Wijk aan Zee Group B (2006). After several more strong performances during the year, including 6.5/9 at the XXII Reykjavik Open (2006), =2nd at Bosna Sarajevo Tournament (2006), =2nd behind Sergei Shipov at the Midnight Sun Challenge at Breivika videregaende skole in Norway, =2nd at Biel Int'l Festival (2006) (after beating the winner Alexander Morozevich twice), first at the Gausdal Classics GM-A and a joint second-place finish at Linares - Morelia (2007), he crossed the 2700-mark, the youngest player ever to do so. A relatively poor result at Dortmund (2007) (3/7) was followed by a win at Biel Chess Festival (2007) (His score was equaled by Alexander Onischuk and so they played a tie-breaker match to determine the winner. After drawing two rapid and two blitz games, Carlsen won the Armageddon game) and a par for rating =2nd at the Arctic Chess Challenge (2007) where he scored 7/9, a half point behind the leader Alexander Moiseenko, and 3rd at the Tal Memorial (2007) in November 2007.

In 2008 Carlsen was the joint winner of Corus (2008) A-Group together with Levon Aronian, and placed second in Morelia-Linares (2008) behind Anand. He won clear first place at Aerosvit (2008) with a dominant 8/11 score. His "disappointing" third placement at 41st Biel International Chess Festival (2008) with 6/10, a half point behind joint winners Leinier Dominguez Perez and Evgeny Alekseev, was nevertheless still a 2740 performance, whilst his equal second in the Bilbao Grand Slam Chess Final (2008) with 5.0/10 was a 2768 performance. His relatively meagre 7/13 at Corus (2009) was followed by equal second placement behind Kramnik at Dortmund (2009) with a 2773 performance and 2nd with 5/9 at the M-Tel Masters (2009). The arrival of Garry Kasparov in 2009 as his coach enabled Carlsen's finest tournament performance to date, and one of the best tournament results in the history of chess. Carlsen eclipsed a stellar field consisting of Topalov, Peter Leko, Dmitry Jakovenko, Teimour Radjabov and Wang Yue to win clear first prize with 8/10 at the category XXI Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2009). Carlsen's performance rating for the tournament was a record 3002 and lifted his FIDE rating in the November 2009 list to 2801, which made him only the fifth player to surpass 2800, and easily the youngest. After a slow start, Carlsen placed equal second with Vassily Ivanchuk behind Vladimir Kramnik in the Category XXI Tal Memorial (2009), which fielded ten of the world's top thirteen rated players. He saw out 2009 with a win at the London Chess Classic (2009), a point ahead of Kramnik, a result which pushed him to the top of the world ratings in January 2010.

In 2010, Carlsen's success continued, winning Corus (2010) outright with 8.5/13, half a point ahead of joint second place finishers Kramnik and Alexey Shirov. In June, he won the category XXI King's Tournament (2010) in Bazna in Romania by a clear two points with 7.5/10 and a 2918 performance. Following mediocre performances at the 2010 Olympiad and the category XXII Bilbao Masters (2010), Carlsen returned to form by winning the category XXI Nanjing Pearl Spring Tournament (2010) outright with 7/10 (+4 -0 =6) and a 2901 rating performance, a full point ahead of World Champion Anand who took outright second with 6/10, and finishing the year by winning the London Chess Classic (2010) for the second time in succession. After a slow start in the Tata Steel (2011) super tournament, Carlsen finished =3rd with Levon Aronian behind Hikaru Nakamura and Anand with 8/13 and a performance rating of 2821. He followed up in June by winning the Bazna King's Tournament (2011) on tiebreak ahead of Karjakin, both finishing with 6.5/10, and by winning Biel Chess Festival (2011) in July with a round to spare and with a final score of 7/10 (TPR 2835). After another characteristically slow start, Carlsen placed =1st with Ivanchuk at the 4th Bilbao Masters (2011) with 15 points under the Bilbao scoring system (+3 -1 =6) and a 2842 performance rating, ultimately winning the tournament in a blitz tiebreaker. Then in November 2011, Carlsen won the Tal Memorial (2011) on tiebreak with 5.5/9 (+2 =7 -0 and a TPR of 2850) over Aronian. Carlsen finished 2011 with 3rd place at the category 20 London Chess Classic (2011) behind Kramnik and Nakamura, scoring +3 =5 (TPR of 2879). 2012 started with =2nd (+4 -1 =8; TPR 2830) behind Aronian and alongside Radjabov and Fabiano Caruana at the Category 21 Tata Steel (2012). He won the category 22 Tal Memorial (2012) outright with 5.5/9 (+2 =7) and a TPR of 2849. The month after his strong results in the World Blitz he finished outright second behind Wang Hao in the Grandmaster Tournament of the Biel Chess Festival (2012). In October 2012, Carlsen repeated his 2011 feat at Bilbao by winning the Bilbao Masters (2012) in a tiebreaker, this time against Caruana. He finished up 2012 by winning the London Chess Classic (2012), the third time he has done so, with a score of 6.5/8 (+5 =3 -0) and a TPR of 2994 (only fractionally below his record effort at Pearl Springs in 2009). London 2012 was also made historic for the fact that Carlsen's result lifted his January 2013 rating to a new record, exceeding Kasparov's record 2851 by 10 points.

Building on his achievements of 2012, Carlsen won the category 20 Tata Steel (2013) tournament with a round to spare, his final score being 10/13. He also set a new live rating record of 2874 after his round 12 win over Nakamura, although this was superseded at the Candidates in March. In May 2013 he played in the category 21 Norway Chess Tournament (2013) held in the Stavanger Region of Norway and came 2nd with 5.5/9, half a point behind the winner Sergey Karjakin; in the preliminary Norway Chess Tournament (Blitz) (2013) held to determine the draw, he came 2nd with 6/9 behind Karjakin, thereby earning 5 games as White out of the 9 to be played. In June he again came outright 2nd, this time at the category 22 Tal Memorial (2013), half a point behind the winner Boris Gelfand. His last hit out before the World Championship match against Anand in November 2013 was the category 22 double round robin Sinquefield Cup (2013), which he won outright with 4.5/6 (+3 =3; TPR of 2966).

Carlsen's first tournament as World Champion was the Zurich Chess Challenge (2014), the first ever category 23 tournament (average rating 2801). He came from behind to take equal first with Aronian in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2014), which determined the colors in the main event (Carlsen has 4 whites and 1 black). By round 4 of the standard time event, he extended his live rating to 2882.6, breaking the record he established in round 3. His round 5 draw with Anand enabled him to finish the standard time event in first place, 2 scoring points ahead of Aronian. He needed 3.5/5 in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2014) played on the final day to guarantee his win in the event, however his 2/5 result was sufficient to win the combined event by one point under the scoring system used. His next event was the category 22 Gashimov Memorial (2014), a new event in honor of the late Azeri GM Vugar Gashimov, which he won outright with a score of 6.5/10, defeating Fabiano Caruana, his rival for first prize, in the last round. Although he was the only undefeated player at the Norway Chess Tournament (2014), he won insufficient games to win the event, which was successfully defended by last year's winner, Sergei Karjakin. In August 2014, he played in the category 23 (only the second such strength event) Sinquefield Cup (2014) and came outright second with 5.5/10, 3 points behind Caruana, the runaway leader of the tournament.

Next event

His next event will be to defend his World Championship title against Anand in November 2014. The venue will be Sochi in Russia.

Rapid:

Carlsen won the Glitnir Blitz Tournament in 2006 in Iceland. In September 2006 Carlsen placed 8th out of 16 participants at the World Blitz Championship (2006) in Rishon LeZion, Israel. In the blitz tournament associated with the Tal Memorial 2006, namely the Tal Blitz Cup, Carlsen scored 17½/34 points and placed 9th in a group of 18 participants. In March 2007, Carlsen played for the first time in the Melody Amber blind and rapid chess tournament in Monte Carlo. In the 11 rounds of the 16th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2007), he achieved eight draws and three losses (placing =9th) then scored three wins, seven draws and one loss in the 16th Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2007) (=2nd), for an overall 8th place in the combined tournament. In March 2008, Carlsen played for the second time in the Melody Amber blind and rapid chess tournament, which was held in Nice for the first time. Carlsen achieved four wins, four draws and two losses in the Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2008), and three wins, two losses, and six draws in the Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2008), resulting in a shared second place in the overall tournament.

In the Chess Classic Mainz (2008), Carlsen finished in second place after losing the final to defending champion Anand 3:1 (two losses, two draws). 2009 saw Carlsen score equal first in the Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2009) with 7/11 alongside Kramnik and Aronian, and equal second with Veselin Topalov at M-Tel Masters (2009) behind Shirov with a 2822 performance. He also won the XXII Magistral Ciudad de Leon (2009), a rapid knockout tournament, ahead of Morozevich, Ivanchuk, and Wang Yue. Just a few days after his 2nd placement at the Tal Memorial (2009), he won the World Blitz Championship (2009) with 31/42, a full three points ahead of runner-up Anand. He shared first place at the 2010 Amber Rapid and Blindfold Tournament with Ivanchuk; scoring 6½ points in the blindfold and 8 points in the rapid, Carlsen accumulated 14½ from a possible 22 points. After a slow start in the Arctic Securities Chess Stars (2010) rapid tournament, he continued his success by defeating Anand in the two-game playoff for gold. In the World Blitz Championship (2010), held in Moscow on 16–18 November, Carlsen attempted to defend his 2009 title. With a score of 23½/38, he finished in third place behind Radjabov and the winner Aronian. After the tournament, Carlsen played a private 40-game blitz match against Hikaru Nakamura, winning with a score of 23½–16½. A phenomenal 9.5/11, 2.5 points clear of the field, in 20th Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2011) was insufficient for him to win the overall contest, as his results in the 20th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2011) were poor, resulting in a 2nd overall to 2008 and 2009 overall winner Aronian. In July 2012 he came clear 2nd in the World Rapid Championship (2012) behind Karjakin with 10.5/15, and clear 2nd in the World Blitz Championship (2012) with 19.5/30, half a point behind Alexander Grischuk.

In June 2014, he realized his ambition to be the triple champion (of standard, rapid and blitz chess) when he won the FIDE World Rapid Championship (2014) with 11/15, half a point ahead of runner-up Caruana, and the FIDE World Blitz Championship (2014) with 17/21, one point clear of Nepomniachtchi and Nakamura.

Matches:

The DSB Bank match between Loek van Wely and Magnus Carlsen took place 28th April - 1st May 2006. The four game classical time limit match was tied 2-2. Carlsen won the blitz portion of the match 3.5-0.5. He won a rapid match against Peter Leko held in Miskolc, Hungary, scoring 5:3 (+2 =6). Carlsen played in a curtain raiser to the Norwegian Championship, winning the Carlsen - Predojevic Rapid Match (2013) by 2.5-1.5 (+1 =3); the match was organized by the "Nansen Center for Peace and Dialogue" to celebrate the long-standing relationship between Lillehammer and Sarajevo. (1)

Team:

<Olympiad>: Carlsen represented Norway on board 1 in the 36th Olympiad (2004), the 37th Chess Olympiad (2006), the Olympiad (2008), the Chess Olympiad (2010) and in the Chess Olympiad (2014). His best result was in the 2006 Olympiad, where he scored 6 points from 8 games and came 5th for board 1.

<National> He played board 1 for Norway at the European Team Chess Championships (2007) and won an individual silver medal.

<Club> Carlsen played four seasons in the European Club Cup. In 2001 and 2003 he played for Asker Norway on board 6 and board 1 (after he had gained his FM title) respectively, while his father Henrik was reserve on both occasions. In 2007 he played board 3 for OS Baden Baden, and in 2008 he played top board for MIKA Yerevan. His total game result from these 4 seasons was 15.5/27 (+11 -7 =9). He also played in the Norwegian Team Championship in 2002, 2003, 2005 and 2006, in the Bundesliga in the 2004-05, 2006-07, 2007/08, 2008-09 seasons, and in the Dutch Team Championship 2007.

<Other> In August 2006, he played in the NH Hotels event featuring the older Experience Team vs Youth team (easily won by the Youth team 28–22), and was equal top scorer with Alexander Beliavsky with 6.5/10.

Rating:

The highest official rating achieved by Carlsen to date was 2882 in May 2014. His highest live rating was 2889.2 on 21 April 2014.

Carlsen's 1 September 2014 FIDE ratings are:

<Standard>: 2870, making him the top ranked player in the world. By the end of the September 2014 rating period, he will have been world number one for a total of 51 months. He holds the record for the longest period as the world's top ranked Junior (U20) - 36 months - from 1 January 2008 until 31 December 2010. He was also both world number one junior and world number one player for the first 10 months of 2010. Furthermore, he holds the record for the highest rating acquired by any player aged 13, and 15 through to 23 inclusive.

<Rapid>: 2855 (world #2); and

<Blitz>: 2948 (world #1).

Other:

Carlsen won the Chess Oscars for 2009, 2010, and 2011, and he was also awarded Norway's annual Peer Gynt Prize for 2011 for being "a person or institution that has achieved distinction in society". (2) After he won the World Championship he was awarded Norway's "Name of the Year" award for 2013. (3) He has two sisters, Ellen Oen Carlsen and Ingrid Oen Carlsen. Carlsen helped Anand prepare for the World Chess Championships in 2007 and 2008 and 2010. Carlsen has modeled for G-Star Raw, starting with its Autumn/Winter 2010 advertising campaign.

General Sources:

Carlsen's FIDE player card; Wikipedia article: Magnus Carlsen; live rating: http://www.2700chess.com/; official website: http://www.magnuscarlsen.com/; blogs: http://www.arcticsec.no/index.php?b... (English language); http://simonsenlaw.no/ (Norwegian language); World Championship Index: http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/wcc...; and Olimpbase, the Encyclopedia of Team Chess: http://www.olimpbase.org/

Footnotes

(1) http://www.peace.no/index.php?optio...; (2) http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/03...; (3) http://www.nrk.no/sport/videoklipp/...


 page 1 of 67; games 1-25 of 1,668  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Carlsen vs P Brantzeg 0-152 2000 ASKOs Pinseturnering, Gruppe BC18 French, Winawer
2. H Bartels vs Carlsen ½-½48 2000 Bayern-chI Bank Hofmann 4thC59 Two Knights
3. G Kaiser vs Carlsen 0-136 2000 Bayern-chI Bank Hofmann 4thB08 Pirc, Classical
4. T Christenson vs Carlsen 0-146 2000 Det åpne NMB70 Sicilian, Dragon Variation
5. Carlsen vs I Cordts 0-130 2000 Bayern-chI Bank Hofmann 4thA31 English, Symmetrical, Benoni Formation
6. Carlsen vs T Nielsen 0-145 2000 Det åpne NMA10 English
7. Carlsen vs L Olzem ½-½36 2000 Bayern-chI Bank Hofmann 4thD00 Queen's Pawn Game
8. Carlsen vs T Solstad ½-½21 2000 Det åpne NME04 Catalan, Open, 5.Nf3
9. K Ovesen vs Carlsen 1-038 2000 Det åpne NMA46 Queen's Pawn Game
10. Carlsen vs I Cordts 0-130 2000 Bayern-chI Bank Hofmann 4thA31 English, Symmetrical, Benoni Formation
11. Toan Thanh Pham vs Carlsen 1-032 2000 Det åpne NMB70 Sicilian, Dragon Variation
12. Carlsen vs H Sannes 1-060 2000 Det åpne NMA27 English, Three Knights System
13. Carlsen vs J Svindahl 0-142 2000 Det åpne NMA36 English
14. M Svendsen vs Carlsen 1-039 2000 Det åpne NMC02 French, Advance
15. A Flaata vs Carlsen 1-024 2000 Stjernen Grand PrixA07 King's Indian Attack
16. P Reynolds vs Carlsen  ½-½22 2001 ECCA45 Queen's Pawn Game
17. G Tallaksen Ostmoe vs Carlsen  ½-½30 2001 Troll MastersD35 Queen's Gambit Declined
18. Carlsen vs L Breivik 0-138 2001 Open NOR-chB02 Alekhine's Defense
19. Carlsen vs J A Ingvaldsen ½-½12 2001 NM, JuniorA04 Reti Opening
20. Carlsen vs E Hermansson  0-134 2001 Classics IMAB12 Caro-Kann Defense
21. Carlsen vs T Plachkinova 0-149 2001 Nordic ChampionshipsD16 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
22. R Edvardsen vs Carlsen ½-½23 2001 Troll MastersD12 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
23. G Kacheishvili vs Carlsen 1-063 2001 5th OIBME32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
24. Carlsen vs G Fant 1-028 2001 Troll MastersC16 French, Winawer
25. Carlsen vs S A Johansen  1-033 2001 Open NOR-chB02 Alekhine's Defense
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Jul-11-12
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  Interbond: I said IF Carlsen was WC , in that case he would be rated nr 1 and WC at the same time and there would be no doubt that he is best.

No one doubt even a second that Fischer, Karpov and Kasparov were the best players in the world when they were World Champions, because they also were rated nr 1.

Jul-11-12  voratco: <JoergWalter: <voyager39>

has anyone of the persons you listed played 8,242 games of which 5,320 were won, 2,654 were lost and 268 were drawn?

Answer: nobody

but here is the man who has achieved it, the genius who is not on your list:

(Sitting): LMAJ, Florida Fischer, The Pensacola Phantom, The Life Dolt and The greatest analyst on the web.

By now you may have noticed that I can't be serious about the question - no matter how hard I try.>

LOL. The badbusiness complainant should be sitting with a stray dog front row.

Jul-12-12  Arcturar: Voyager, it's because your "seating plan" is a rather naive way of looking at things. Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I could have been, but my main point was that Magnus is close (!) to being one of the BEST players ever, but when looking at GREATNESS he does not come remotely close to any of them except for possibly Euwe. And even that is debatable...

The thing is, everyone always seems to lump the words "best" and "greatest" together...Even if one does say the right word they often seem to imply the other one. Because really, there is very little argument about the best players (making that question silly), and the question of greatest players is often filled with fanboyism and a lack of objectivity. Becoming WCC means a heck of a lot for one's legacy and greatness than a brief (a few years really isn't so much in the grand scheme of things) reign as #1...especially when the margin to Aronian, et al, is so small...

I guess I just don't understand what you're trying to say with your "seating plan" and don't see how a bunch of kibitzers posting their own plans relates to anything at all. Hence general musings rather than a pointlessly well-defined stance on this topic.

Jul-12-12  Arcturar: But pardon me for the sermon.
Jul-12-12  voratco: Like alexmagnus said, there is no best player, it is only an opinion.
Jul-12-12  voyager39: <Arcturar> All I was trying to do was invite attention to that subtle distinction which you have so clearly explained.

Nobody minds going through a sermon which is objective and logical...in fact one feels grateful being the audience.

Jul-12-12  voyager39: <galdur> <Second place in both rapid and blitz championships was a bit of a disappointment for this strong player but hardly a disaster. It was an extremely strong field> So then what was this? Botvinnik Memorial Rapid (2011)
Jul-12-12  voyager39: <voratco> I know that Shipov's cat has played 18,242 games against his mouse of which 15,320 were won, 2,654 were lost and 268 were drawn. Dunno whose the Dog and dunno whose the Peniscola Phantom.
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  Rolfo: <Like alexmagnus said, there is no best player, it is only an opinion.>

If the word "best" is a problem, why not apply a more objective word like "strongest" for example where one can attach some objective criterias. I would say rank according to rating to be one those criteria

Jul-12-12  voyager39: <voratco> I guess Garry would groove to your idea.

Its gonna immensly help the School programme and commerce if we could ascribe players with tags like Peniscola Phantom, Buttsecks Butcher etc. We could sell Tattoos, T-Shirts, Toys as well as whatever u been smokin. Lemme know when u float the IPO.

Jul-12-12  Petrosianic: Because we're discussing a 60 Minutes piece, which apparently did tell us without qualification that Carlsen was the "best". It's too late to ask them to use another word.
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  Rolfo: <It's too late to ask them to use another word.>

Very well,but this type of discussion seems to reoccur quite often. I think it is quite normal to have a rating system and referring to it shouldn't stir the peace of mind for anybody. Magnus himself says often that he is #1, and most times he is true

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  MarkFinan: Ahhhh ! <voyager39> let me familiarise you with the "Penascola Phantom"?

He Is none other than..... LIFE Master Andrea James Goldsby the I.

Or for short.... LMAJ !!

Jul-12-12  JoergWalter: All what we can measure is <success> in terms of winning tournaments and pricemoney. <best> and <strongest> etc. are not necessarily synonymous to <most successful>. being <good> and <strong> is a quality of the player, being <successful> is also concerning the conditions and circumstances.
Jul-12-12  JoergWalter: <Mark> may the force be with you when wrestling the <swamp thing>.
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  Rolfo: JoergWalter, good point. I often refers to result, but successful is also valid (at least till someone find a flaw in that word too :)

To be serious, people take words too seriously :)

Jul-12-12  Petrosianic: <Rolfo> <I think it is quite normal to have a rating system and referring to it shouldn't stir the peace of mind for anybody.>

The original person who got upset at this was offended that 60 Minutes had pronounced him to be "the best", without qualification, and without reference to the fact that there was a world champion who wasn't Carlsen.

He thought it was an enormous insult, I thought it was more of a dumbing down than an insult. A glossing over of facts to avoid bogging the non-chessplaying viewer down in details that they wouldn't care about. Change the word "best" to "#1", and you have a factually correct statement that leaves things out but not things that Joe Average would care about.

<Magnus himself says often that he is #1, and most times he is true>

Does he say it when he's not #1 on the rating list? The world title goes back to 1886. The rating list only to 1970, but it's an alternative measure of measurement that some prefer to the title. Officially the world champion is "the best", and the #1 is just the one that's had the best recent results. Some people seem to prefer the rating list though, because it provides some kind of measurement for EVERYONE. You can tell people that it doesn't measure strength and it doesn't measure exactly until you're blue in the face, and they'll still ignore you and talk about a 1 point rating advantage as though it meant something.

Other people just prefer whichever one benefits their favorite player at the moment. An argument could be made that the world title should be abolished and the #1 Rated Player automatically declared world champion. But people don't like that idea either because the top spot can change every month (every day if you're using Live Ratings), and nobody really believes that a player's "strength" changes that often.

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  Rolfo: Petrosianic, to say it briefly I mostly agree with your summary and position here.But I also believe people shouldn't blame on Magnus which focus a reportage is given and how it is presented
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  Kinghunt: <voyager39> Botvinnik Memorial Rapid (2011) is what can properly be called a disaster. Carlsen's third day of rapids could be called a disaster. But overall, second place in two top events is quite respectable.
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  MarkFinan: <JW> lol...

But I can take care of The swamp thing, on my Solo...;)

I see <Petrosianic>'s been on the substances again?? By thy words and actions you shall know them!

And I know so so so many people who waffle's like he does, and they're ALL phet heads! I'd put my life on him being a substance user/abuser...

I dare anyone to disagree with him about any previous WCC or WCC game, and watch pages and pages of Indecipherable BS appear within minutes? It's okay when he's hassling <TBL><Harry> or <Rookfile> (I think thats his name??) but he complains when he gets It back!

Iv'e been there, so I think I'm safe to say he's at LEAST a coke head...

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  alexmagnus: <Officially the world champion is "the best", and the #1 is just the one that's had the best recent results.>

And what if someone hold the #1 position for years or even decades without becoming a champ (or after losing the champ title)? The one with best "recent results" for, say, 10 years is not the best? :). I don't have example of 10 years, but Kasparov was #1 and not champ for some months before and 5 years after his championship. Carlsen is in his third year as #1.

And Kramnik never had best "recent results" at all (he never was unshared #1). Also, how is one proving himself the best in a championship? As a challenger, one easily gets lucky to have avoided the players one cannot play, as a champion one may get "comfortable" challengers for the same reason. Or too uncomfotable opponents as a challenger, for that matter. Too much depends on the candidates draw, if played in matches.

Jul-12-12  voratco: <MarkFinan: Ahhhh ! <voyager39> let me familiarise you with the "Penascola Phantom"?

He Is none other than..... LIFE Master Andrea James Goldsby the I.

Or for short.... LMAJ !!>

That was supposed to be a secret, LOL, so we can make money off of those t-shirt sales. Now voyager39 can beat us to the punch. LOL.

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  Bobby Fiske: Magnus has an accurate view on his present position in chess: "Currently the highest ranked chess player in the world". (As written on his resent Facebook page).
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  ajile: <Petrosianic: He thought it was an enormous insult, I thought it was more of a dumbing down than an insult. A glossing over of facts to avoid bogging the non-chessplaying viewer down in details that they wouldn't care about.>

Well it was an insult by omission to Anand the World Champion. And maybe if he did it once on a TV show it could be excused. But he did it twice on Colbert and 60 minutes.

And think about it. There are some serious monetary advantages for Magus and company to do this. If he played Anand and lost then his "value" as a celebrity and model certainly wouldn't go up. By waiting he gets some extra time to make money as the "best" player by virtue of his rating. Who cares if the people who count (chess players) don't like it or agree with it. The money is in the dollars from the general public. And this is in the 1.5 million per year range.

Jul-12-12  voratco: money over history being the youngest chess champion of the worlds?

Time will change money, money can't change time.

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