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Magnus Carlsen
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Number of games in database: 2,686
Years covered: 1999 to 2017
Last FIDE rating: 2837 (2909 rapid, 2948 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2882

Overall record: +667 -267 =670 (62.5%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 1082 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (250) 
    B90 B30 B40 B51 B92
 Ruy Lopez (163) 
    C65 C78 C67 C84 C77
 Queen's Pawn Game (94) 
    A45 D02 E10 D00 A46
 Slav (69) 
    D15 D17 D10 D12 D11
 Nimzo Indian (69) 
    E21 E32 E20 E54 E36
 French Defense (60) 
    C00 C11 C18 C03 C02
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (235) 
    B33 B30 B22 B31 B90
 Ruy Lopez (169) 
    C67 C78 C95 C65 C69
 Queen's Indian (91) 
    E15 E12 E17 E16 E14
 Queen's Pawn Game (70) 
    A45 A46 E00 E10 A40
 Nimzo Indian (63) 
    E32 E21 E34 E20 E55
 Queen's Gambit Declined (61) 
    D37 D38 D30 D31 D36
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Carlsen vs S Ernst, 2004 1-0
   Carlsen vs H Harestad, 2003 1-0
   J L Hammer vs Carlsen, 2003 0-1
   Anand vs Carlsen, 2013 0-1
   Kramnik vs Carlsen, 2008 0-1
   Carlsen vs G Tallaksen Ostmoe, 2005 1-0
   Carlsen vs A Groenn, 2005 1-0
   Nakamura vs Carlsen, 2014 0-1
   Carlsen vs Karjakin, 2013 1-0
   Carlsen vs M Vachier-Lagrave, 2015 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004)
   Anand - Carlsen World Championship (2013)
   Carlsen - Anand World Championship (2014)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Corus Group C (2004)
   Norwegian Championship (2004)
   Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2009)
   Corus Group B (2006)
   Tata Steel (2015)
   Tata Steel (2013)
   Isle of Man Open (2017)
   Norwegian Championship (2006)
   Norwegian Championship (2005) Speed Chess Championship (2017)
   Midnight Sun Chess Challenge (2006)
   Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2010)
   FIDE World Cup (2005)
   XXII Reykjavik Open (2006)
   World Chess Cup (2007)

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(born Nov-30-1990, 26 years old) Norway

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Magnus Carlsen (full name: Sven Magnus Øen Carlsen) is the 16th undisputed World Champion. He won the crown from Viswanathan Anand in November 2013 and successfully defended it in a return contest with the former title holder in November 2014. In November 2016, he retained his crown when he defeated the Challenger, Sergey Karjakin, in the rapid game tiebreaker after the 12-game classical match was tied.


FM (2002); IM (2003); GM (2004); vice-World U12 World Champion (2002); Norwegian Champion (2006); Candidate (2007 & 2013); World Champion (2013 & 2014); World Rapid Champion (2014 & 2015) and World Blitz Champion (2009 & 2014), winner of the Grand Chess Tour (2015), five-time winner at Wijk aan Zee (2008 (jointly with Levon Aronian), 2010, 2013, 2015 & 2016).

Carlsen has been the world's top ranked player since January 2010, apart from six months between November 2010 and June 2011 when he was #2, and possesses the highest standard FIDE rating ever posted, as well as the highest ever live rating. In January 2016, he became the first person to be the world #1 in standard, rapid and blitz chess.

Master Norms

<IM norms> Carlsen earned his first IM norm in January 2003 at the Gausdal Troll Masters when he scored 7/10. His second IM norm came in June 2003 at the Salongernas IM-tournament in Stockholm where he scored 6/9 and his third IM norm came in the following month at the 2003 Politiken Cup in Copenhagen where he scored 8/11.

<GM norms> In early 2004, Carlsen made a major international impact when he won Corus C with 10.5/13, easily winning his first grandmaster norm and earning his entry to the Corus B in 2005. Carlsen obtained his second grandmaster norm in the 3rd Aeroflot Festival (2004) in February and his third grandmaster norm at the sixth 6th Dubai Open (2004), held between 18th and 28th April.


He was born in Tønsberg, Vestfold. His parents are Sigrun Øen and Henrik Carlsen, both of whom are engineers. His father taught him chess at the age of eight after which he soon played his first tournament, a junior (Miniputt) Norwegian championship. He was coached by seven-time Norwegian Champion Simen Agdestein and by Torbjorn Ringdal Hansen. He won the title of International Master in 2003 at the age of 12 years 7 months and 25 days. In 2004, after having gained over 300 rating points in little over a year, he became the second-youngest grandmaster in chess history at the time, behind only Sergey Karjakin, at the age of 13 years 4 months and 27 days. Parimarjan Negi later pipped his record by five days to become the second youngest grandmaster ever.


<Age>: Carlsen won the Norwegian U11 Championship in 2000 and the U10 Nordic Championship in 2001. In 2002, he placed =1st in the Open Norwegian Junior Championship with 5.5/7, but easily won the same event the following year with 6/6. Carlsen started with 4/4 at the 2002 U12 European Championship but faded to finish sixth. In the 2002 U12 World Championship a few weeks later, Carlsen was sole leader coming into the last round, but was held to a draw by David Howell, enabling Ian Nepomniachtchi to equal his score and to win on tiebreak. He placed =3rd at the 2003 U14 European Championship, half a point behind Sergei Zhigalko and Tornike Sanikidze, a short time later placing =9th with 7.5/11 at the World U14 Championship in Halkidiki.

<National and Continental>: A couple of weeks after being eliminated from the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004) (see below), he placed =1st in the 2004 Norwegian Championship. However, after a two-game play-off match with co-leader and until then, six-time Norwegian champion, Berge Ostenstad was drawn, Østenstad was declared winner on tiebreak. In the 2005 Norwegian Chess Championship, Carlsen again finished in a shared first place, this time with his mentor Simen Agdestein. A rapid game playoff between them resulted in Agdestein’s victory by 3.5-2.5 (+2 -1 =3). Carlsen finally won the Norwegian Championship in 2006, after defeating Simen Agdestein in a tie-break match.

Carlsen’s first and and so far only participation in the continental championship provided a solid 22-point boost to his rating when he scored 8/13 in the 6th European Individual Championship (2005).

<World>: Carlsen qualified for the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004), but was eliminated in the first round tiebreaker by Levon Aronian. His hopes to become a contender for the World Championship in the future took a big step forward by placing tenth at the FIDE World Cup (2005), becoming the youngest player ever to qualify for the Candidates. In his first Candidates match in Elista in May, he drew 3-3 in the six slow games of the Candidates Match: Aronian - Carlsen (2007) before losing in rapid-play tie-breaks. He reached the final four in the World Chess Cup (2007) before being defeated in the semi-finals by the eventual winner, Gata Kamsky. Carlsen's final placing in the 2007 World Cup qualified him for participation in the FIDE Grand Prix for 2008-09. Soon afterwards he tied for first place in the Baku Grand Prix (2008), the first round of FIDE's inaugural Grand Prix series. Carlsen later withdrew from the Grand Prix cycle despite his excellent result in Baku, complaining about "dramatic changes to ... regulations." and that “…changing the rules dramatically in the middle of a cycle is simply unacceptable.”

On the basis of his rating, Carlsen qualified for the Candidates Tournament that would determine the challenger to World Champion Viswanathan Anand in 2012. In November 2010, however, Carlsen announced he was withdrawing from the Candidates tournament. Carlsen described the 2008–12 cycle as not "...sufficiently modern and fair", and added that "Reigning champion privileges, the long (five year) span of the cycle, changes made during the cycle resulting in a new format (Candidates) that no World Champion has had to go through since Kasparov, puzzling ranking criteria as well as the shallow ceaseless match-after-match concept are all less than satisfactory in my opinion." Carlsen qualified for the World Championship Candidates (2013) that was played in London, again on the basis of his rating. He placed =1st with Vladimir Kramnik on 8.5/14 after both players lost their last round games, but as the first tiebreaker (score against each other in the tournament which was 1-1) failed to break the tie, he won on the second tiebreak which stipulated that the player with the greater number of wins takes first place; he had scored five wins to Kramnik's four. During the tournament, Carlsen set a new live rating record of 2878.9 after he defeated Gelfand in round 10.

In November 2013, Carlsen won the Anand - Carlsen World Championship (2013) that was staged in Chennai. The first four games were drawn before Carlsen won the fifth and sixth games. The seventh and eighth games were drawn, with Carlsen then winning the ninth game and drawing the tenth and last game to win by 6.5-3.5 (+3 =7).

World Championship Defence 2014

Carlsen defended his World Championship title against Anand - who won the right to challenge for the title by winning the World Chess Championship Candidates (2014) that was held in March 2014 - in Sochi in Russia in November 2014.

The first game of the Carlsen - Anand World Championship (2014) was a fighting draw with Carlsen playing Black and successfully defending a Grunfeld. He drew first blood in game two playing the White side of a quiet Ruy Lopez, breaking down Black's defences before the first time control. After the first rest day, Anand struck back strongly playing the White side of a Queen's Gambit Declined (D37), and overcame Carlsen before the first time control. In game 4, Anand played the Sicilian but Carlsen steered the opening into a quiet positional struggle that ended in a draw. Game 5 featured a Queen's Indian Defence by Carlsen which also ended in a draw. Game 6 may have been the turning point in the match. Anand missed a simple tactical stroke as Black that would have given him a very strong, if not winning position and the lead in the match. After missing this continuation, Anand's game weakened and Carlsen brought home the point to take the lead in the match for the second time.

Game 7 was another Berlin Defence by Anand who encountered difficulties and surrendered a piece for two pawns. However, his defence kept Carlsen at bay for 122 moves before the game was finally drawn due to insufficient mating material on the board. Game 8 in the match was another QGD, with Carlsen playing Black introducing an innovation from his home preparation that guaranteed him a relatively easy draw. After another rest day, play resumed with Carlsen playing the White side of a Ruy Lopez that turned into a Berlin Defence by Anand. The game quickly came to an end through a draw by repetition, with Carlsen content to maintain his one-point lead. In Game 10, Carlsen again defended a Grunfeld, albeit not as convincingly as in Game 1. However, he defended a long initiative by Anand to secure a drew to continue to maintain his one point lead. Game 11 was another Berlin Defence by Anand which turned into a complex and hard fought middle game following an innovation by Anand on the queenside, which was followed by an exchange sacrifice. Carlsen successfully defended to bring home the final point needed to secure his title for another two years.

Match result: Carlsen won by 6.5-4.5 (+3 -1 =7).

World Championship Defence 2016

Carlsen's next defence of his classical world title was in November 2016, starting November 11th, in New York City. Sergey Karjakin won the right to challenge him by finishing clear first in the World Championship Candidates (2016). Carlsen retained his title when he drew the classical games 6-6 (+1 -1 =10) and won the rapid game tiebreaker 3-1 (+2 =2). See Carlsen - Karjakin World Championship (2016) for more information.

World Championship Defence 2018

Although he will almost certainly be defending his title in 2018 against the Challenger emerging from the preceding Candidates tournament, Carlsen exercised his right as World Champion to participate in the World Cup (2017). In the first round, he played the lowest seeded player, Nigerian IM Oluwafemi Balogun, defeating him 2-0 in the classical games to move onto round 2 where he met and defeated veteran Russian GM Alexey Dreev by 2-0. However, Carlsen was eliminated in the third round when he lost to Bu Xiangzhi by 0.5-1.5, having lost the first game to a sacrificial attack by the Chinese GM.

Classical Tournaments:

<2004-2007> Carlsen placed 3rd at the 12th Sigeman & Co Chess Tournament (2004) followed later that month with a solid =3rd place at the Politiken Cup 2004, a half point behind the leaders Darmen Sadvakasov and compatriot Leif Erlend Johannessen. In October 2005, he won the Gausdal Bygger'n Masters in Norway with 8/9 ahead of 9 other grandmasters. He continued to improve in 2006, tying Alexander Motylev for first place in Corus Group B (2006). After several more strong performances during the year, including 6.5/9 at the XXII Reykjavik Open (2006), =2nd at Bosna Sarajevo Tournament (2006), =2nd behind Sergei Shipov at the Midnight Sun Challenge at Breivika videregaende skole in Norway, =2nd at Biel Int'l Festival (2006) (after beating the winner Alexander Morozevich twice), first at the Gausdal Classics GM-A and a joint second-place finish at Linares - Morelia (2007), he crossed the 2700-mark, the youngest player ever to do so. A relatively poor result at Dortmund (2007) (3/7) was followed by a win at Biel Chess Festival (2007) (His score was equaled by Alexander Onischuk and so they played a tie-breaker match to determine the winner. After drawing two rapid and two blitz games, Carlsen won the Armageddon game) and a par for rating =2nd at the Arctic Chess Challenge (2007) where he scored 7/9, a half point behind the leader Alexander Moiseenko, and 3rd at the Tal Memorial (2007) in November 2007.

<2008-2009> In 2008 Carlsen was the joint winner of Corus (2008) A-Group together with Levon Aronian, and placed second in Morelia-Linares (2008) behind Anand. He won clear first place at Aerosvit (2008) with a dominant 8/11 score. His "disappointing" third placement at 41st Biel International Chess Festival (2008) with 6/10, a half point behind joint winners Leinier Dominguez Perez and Evgeny Alekseev, was nevertheless still a 2740 performance, whilst his equal second in the Bilbao Grand Slam Chess Final (2008) with 5.0/10 was a 2768 performance. His relatively meagre 7/13 at Corus (2009) was followed by equal second placement behind Kramnik at Dortmund (2009) with a 2773 performance and 2nd with 5/9 at the M-Tel Masters (2009). The arrival of Garry Kasparov in 2009 as his coach enabled Carlsen's finest tournament performance to date, and one of the best tournament results in the history of chess. Carlsen eclipsed a stellar field consisting of Topalov, Peter Leko, Dmitry Jakovenko, Teimour Radjabov and Wang Yue to win clear first prize with 8/10 at the category XXI Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2009). Carlsen's performance rating for the tournament was a record 3002 and lifted his FIDE rating in the November 2009 list to 2801, which made him only the fifth player to surpass 2800, and easily the youngest. After a slow start, Carlsen placed equal second with Vassily Ivanchuk behind Vladimir Kramnik in the Category XXI Tal Memorial (2009), which fielded ten of the world's top thirteen rated players. He saw out 2009 with a win at the London Chess Classic (2009), a point ahead of Kramnik, a result which pushed him to the top of the world ratings in January 2010.

<2010-2012> In 2010, Carlsen's success continued, winning Corus (2010) outright with 8.5/13, half a point ahead of joint second place finishers Kramnik and Alexey Shirov. In June, he won the category XXI King's Tournament (2010) in Bazna in Romania by a clear two points with 7.5/10 and a 2918 performance. Following mediocre performances at the 2010 Olympiad and the category XXII Bilbao Masters (2010), Carlsen returned to form by winning the category XXI Nanjing Pearl Spring Tournament (2010) outright with 7/10 (+4 -0 =6) and a 2901 rating performance, a full point ahead of World Champion Anand who took outright second with 6/10, and finishing the year by winning the London Chess Classic (2010) for the second time in succession. After a slow start in the Tata Steel (2011) super tournament, Carlsen finished =3rd with Levon Aronian behind Hikaru Nakamura and Anand with 8/13 and a performance rating of 2821. He followed up in June by winning the Bazna King's Tournament (2011) on tiebreak ahead of Karjakin, both finishing with 6.5/10, and by winning Biel Chess Festival (2011) in July with a round to spare and with a final score of 7/10 (TPR 2835). After another characteristically slow start, Carlsen placed =1st with Ivanchuk at the 4th Bilbao Masters (2011) with 15 points under the Bilbao scoring system (+3 -1 =6) and a 2842 performance rating, ultimately winning the tournament in a blitz tiebreaker. Then in November 2011, Carlsen won the Tal Memorial (2011) on tiebreak with 5.5/9 (+2 =7 -0 and a TPR of 2850) over Aronian. Carlsen finished 2011 with 3rd place at the category 20 London Chess Classic (2011) behind Kramnik and Nakamura, scoring +3 =5 (TPR of 2879). 2012 started with =2nd (+4 -1 =8; TPR 2830) behind Aronian and alongside Radjabov and Fabiano Caruana at the Category 21 Tata Steel (2012). He won the category 22 Tal Memorial (2012) outright with 5.5/9 (+2 =7) and a TPR of 2849. The month after his strong results in the World Blitz he finished outright second behind Wang Hao in the Grandmaster Tournament of the Biel Chess Festival (2012). In October 2012, Carlsen repeated his 2011 feat at Bilbao by winning the Bilbao Masters (2012) in a tiebreaker, this time against Caruana. He finished up 2012 by winning the London Chess Classic (2012), the third time he has done so, with a score of 6.5/8 (+5 =3 -0) and a TPR of 2994 (only fractionally below his record effort at Pearl Springs in 2009). London 2012 was also made historic for the fact that Carlsen's result lifted his January 2013 rating to a new record, exceeding Kasparov's record 2851 by 10 points.

<2013> Building on his achievements of 2012, Carlsen won the category 20 Tata Steel (2013) tournament with a round to spare, his final score being 10/13. He also set a new live rating record of 2874 after his round 12 win over Nakamura, although this was superseded at the Candidates in March. In May 2013 he played in the category 21 Norway Chess Tournament (2013) held in the Stavanger Region of Norway and came 2nd with 5.5/9, half a point behind the winner Sergey Karjakin; in the preliminary Norway Chess Tournament (Blitz) (2013) held to determine the draw, he came 2nd with 6/9 behind Karjakin, thereby earning 5 games as White out of the 9 to be played. In June he again came outright 2nd, this time at the category 22 Tal Memorial (2013), half a point behind the winner Boris Gelfand. His last hit out before the World Championship match against Anand in November 2013 was the category 22 double round robin Sinquefield Cup (2013), which he won outright with 4.5/6 (+3 =3; TPR of 2966).

<2014> Carlsen's first tournament as World Champion was the Zurich Chess Challenge (2014), the first ever category 23 tournament (average rating 2801). He came from behind to take equal first with Aronian in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2014), which determined the colors in the main event (Carlsen has 4 whites and 1 black). By round 4 of the standard time event, he extended his live rating to 2882.6, breaking the record he established in round 3. His round 5 draw with Anand enabled him to finish the standard time event in first place, 2 scoring points ahead of Aronian. He needed 3.5/5 in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2014) played on the final day to guarantee his win in the event, however his 2/5 result was sufficient to win the combined event by one point under the scoring system used. His next event was the category 22 Gashimov Memorial (2014), a new event in honor of the late Azeri GM Vugar Gashimov, which he won outright with a score of 6.5/10, defeating Fabiano Caruana, his rival for first prize, in the last round. Although he was the only undefeated player at the Norway Chess Tournament (2014), he won insufficient games to win the event, which was successfully defended by last year's winner, Sergei Karjakin. In August 2014, he played in the category 23 (only the second such strength event) Sinquefield Cup (2014) and came outright second with 5.5/10, 3 points behind Caruana, the runaway leader of the tournament.

<2015> Following his successful defence of his title against Anand in November 2014, Carlsen won the Tata Steel (2015) outright with a score of 9/13 (+6 -1 =6), his six wins scored in succession after starting the event poorly with two draws and a loss. In April 2015, Carlsen won the category 21 Gashimov Memorial (2015) outright for the second year in succession with a powerful score of 7/9 (+5 =4), a full point clear of a resurgent Viswanathan Anand, who was outright runner up with 6/9. This high was followed by a low at the category 22 Norway Chess (2015) in Stavanger in June 2015, when he crashed and burned to his worst tournament result in almost a decade. After losing his first round game on time to Topalov in a won position, Carlsen never recovered and registered a 3.5/9 (+2-4=3) result that slashed 23 points from his rating. A slow start in the category 22 Sinquefield Cup (2015) following an early loss to Topalov, was followed by three successive wins which enabled Carlsen to draw level with the leader by round 5, before the rest day. However, a crucial loss to Grischuk from an advantageous position and missed opportunities to win against Nakamura relegated him to equal second in the event, a point behind the outright winner Levon Aronian. This result also caused him to shed a few ratings points.

Still struggling with his form, Carlsen began his campaign at the category 23 London Chess Classic (2015) with his characteristic slow start, but was able to finish equal first in the ninth and final round with a win over Alexander Grischuk, scoring 5.5/9 alongside Anish Giri and a surging Maxime Vachier-Lagrave. A three way rapid game tiebreak resulted in Carlsen winning the tournament as well as the Grand Chess Tour of 2015. He finished 2015 with a flourish when he won the powerful Qatar Masters (2015) by sharing first with an undefeated 7/9, then winning 2-0 in the blitz playoff against Yu Yangyi. His tiebreak wins against Yu Yangyi also elevated him back to world #1 in blitz.

<2016> The year started in the best possible way for Carlsen when he scored 9/13 to win outright at the category 20 Tata Steel (2016) event, a point ahead of Caruana and Ding Liren. This was his fifth win at Wijk aan Zee, tying with Anand for the record number of wins at this event, which has been running since 1938. In April, he won the Norway Chess (2016) event for the first time, scoring 6/9 to finish outright first, a half point ahead of outright second placed Aronian who won their individual game; Carlsen also won the preliminary Norway Blitz (2016) with 7.5/9, a point ahead of outright second placed Giri, to win the right to five starts as white in the nine round principal tournament. In July, Carlsen emerged as the outright winner of the Bilbao (2016), well ahead of the runner up Nakamura.

<2017> Wesley So broke Carlsen's winning run at Wijk aan Zee, with the latter finishing outright second on 8/13 at the Tata Steel (2017). In April Carlsen finished equal second alongside Caruana with 4/7 (+1=6), a point and a half behind outright winner Aronian at the category 20 GRENKE Chess Classic (2017). After easily winning the Altibox Norway (Blitz) (2017) to determine the draw for the main event, Carlsen returned his worst result in over a decade to score 4/9 at the category 22 Altibox Norway (2017), narrowly missing out on last place and coming to within one game of losing his number one world ranking. He regained some form at the category 22 Sinquefield Cup (2017), placing second with 5.5/9, half a point behind the winner Vachier-Lagrave, the only player who defeated Carlsen in this event. He seems to have returned to form with an uncontested first place in the powerful Isle of Man Open (2017), finishing with 7.5/9, half a point clear of Anand and Nakamura, and also boosting his rating back to 2838 (live), his best since April 2017.


Carlsen won the Glitnir Blitz Tournament in 2006 in Iceland. In September 2006 Carlsen placed 8th out of 16 participants at the World Blitz Championship (2006) in Rishon LeZion, Israel. In the blitz tournament associated with the Tal Memorial 2006, namely the Tal Blitz Cup, Carlsen scored 17½/34 points and placed 9th in a group of 18 participants. In March 2007, Carlsen played for the first time in the Melody Amber blind and rapid chess tournament in Monte Carlo. In the 11 rounds of the 16th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2007), he achieved eight draws and three losses (placing =9th) then scored three wins, seven draws and one loss in the 16th Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2007) (=2nd), for an overall 8th place in the combined tournament. In March 2008, Carlsen played for the second time in the Melody Amber blind and rapid chess tournament, which was held in Nice for the first time. Carlsen achieved four wins, four draws and two losses in the Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2008), and three wins, two losses, and six draws in the Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2008), resulting in a shared second place in the overall tournament.

In the Chess Classic Mainz (2008), Carlsen finished in second place after losing the final to defending champion Anand 3:1 (two losses, two draws). 2009 saw Carlsen score equal first in the Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2009) with 7/11 alongside Kramnik and Aronian, and equal second with Veselin Topalov at M-Tel Masters (2009) behind Shirov with a 2822 performance. He also won the XXII Magistral Ciudad de Leon (2009), a rapid knockout tournament, ahead of Morozevich, Ivanchuk, and Wang Yue. Just a few days after his 2nd placement at the Tal Memorial (2009), he won the World Blitz Championship (2009) with 31/42, a full three points ahead of runner-up Anand. He shared first place at the 2010 Amber Rapid and Blindfold Tournament with Ivanchuk; scoring 6½ points in the blindfold and 8 points in the rapid, Carlsen accumulated 14½ from a possible 22 points. After a slow start in the Arctic Securities Chess Stars (2010) rapid tournament, he continued his success by defeating Anand in the two-game playoff for gold. In the World Blitz Championship (2010), held in Moscow on 16–18 November, Carlsen attempted to defend his 2009 title. With a score of 23½/38, he finished in third place behind Radjabov and the winner Aronian. After the tournament, Carlsen played a private 40-game blitz match against Hikaru Nakamura, winning with a score of 23½–16½. A phenomenal 9.5/11, 2.5 points clear of the field, in 20th Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2011) was insufficient for him to win the overall contest, as his results in the 20th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2011) were poor, resulting in a 2nd overall to 2008 and 2009 overall winner Aronian. In July 2012 he came clear 2nd in the World Rapid Championship (2012) behind Karjakin with 10.5/15, and clear 2nd in the World Blitz Championship (2012) with 19.5/30, half a point behind Alexander Grischuk.

In June 2014, he realized his ambition to be the triple champion (of standard, rapid and blitz chess) when he won the FIDE World Rapid Championship (2014) with 11/15, half a point ahead of runner-up Caruana, and the FIDE World Blitz Championship (2014) with 17/21, one point clear of Nepomniachtchi and Nakamura. In October 2015, he successfully backed up to defend his title at the World Rapid Championship (2015), scoring 11.5/15, a point clear of runners-up Leinier Dominguez Perez, Teimour Radjabov and Ian Nepomniachtchi. Carlsen was second in the Paris Grand Chess Tour, placing second to Nakamura in the Grand Chess Tour Paris Rapid (2016) and equal first in the Grand Chess Tour Paris Blitz (2016) alongside Nakamura to take second place behind the US grandmaster. Soon afterward, he was overall first in the Leuven legs of the Grand Chess Tour, having won both the YourNextMove Rapid (2016) and the YourNextMove Blitz (2016). Carlsen won his final event before the upcoming Carlsen - Karjakin World Championship (2016) in New York, when he won the final of the Carlsen-Nakamura Blitz Battle (2016) against Hikaru Nakamura. Carlsen obtained a large lead after the 5m+2spm and 3m+2spm sections and narrowly lost the bullet 1m+1spm with a final score of 14.5-10.5.

He placed equal first with 11/15 alongside Ivanchuk and Grischuk at the World Rapid Championship (2016), but placed third on countback. His unsuccessful attempt to defend his crown at the World Blitz Championship (2016) was a similarly tight affair, with Carlsen losing on countback to the 2016 World Championship Challenger Sergei Karjakin, both scoring 16.5/21. The following year in 2017, Carlsen won both the Paris and Leuven legs of the Grand Chess Tour of 2017 to lead the competition ahead of the Sinquifield and London legs to be staged later in 2017: he won the Grand Chess Tour Paris (Rapid) (2017) with 7/9 ahead of Grischuk and backed up with equal fourth at the Grand Chess Tour Paris (Rapid) (2017) to win the Paris leg on aggregate. At Leuven, Carlsen was third with 5.5/9 at the YourNextMove (Rapid) (2017) and clear winner by four points at the YourNextMove (Blitz) (2017) to take out the Leuven leg on aggregate.


The DSB Bank match between Loek van Wely and Magnus Carlsen took place 28th April - 1st May 2006. The four game classical time limit match was tied 2-2. Carlsen won the blitz portion of the match 3.5-0.5. He won a rapid match against Peter Leko held in Miskolc, Hungary, scoring 5:3 (+2 =6). Carlsen played in a curtain raiser to the Norwegian Championship, winning the Carlsen - Predojevic Rapid Match (2013) by 2.5-1.5 (+1 =3); the match was organized by the "Nansen Center for Peace and Dialogue" to celebrate the long-standing relationship between Lillehammer and Sarajevo. (1)


<Olympiad>: Carlsen represented Norway on board one in the 36th Olympiad (2004), the 37th Chess Olympiad (2006), the Olympiad (2008), the Chess Olympiad (2010), the Chess Olympiad (2014) and in the Chess Olympiad (2016). His best result was in the 2006 Olympiad, where he scored 6 points from 8 games and came 5th for board one. In 2016, he scored 7.5/10 placing 6th on board one, assisting his twelfth seeded Norwegian team to place 5th.

<National> He played board 1 for Norway at the European Team Chess Championships (2007) and won an individual silver medal. He again played board 1 for Norway at the European Team Championship (2015), but returned a very poor result with 3.5/7, losing another 16 rating points to bring him down to his lowest rating (2834) since January 2012.

<Club> Carlsen played four seasons in the European Club Cup. In 2001 and 2003 he played for Asker Norway on board 6 and board 1 (after he had gained his FM title) respectively, while his father Henrik was reserve on both occasions. In 2007 he played board 3 for OS Baden Baden, and in 2008 he played top board for MIKA Yerevan. His total game result from these 4 seasons was 15.5/27 (+11 -7 =9). He also played in the Norwegian Team Championship in 2002, 2003, 2005 and 2006, in the Bundesliga in the 2004-05, 2006-07, 2007/08, 2008-09 seasons, and in the Dutch Team Championship 2007.

<Other Team> In August 2006, he played in the NH Hotels event featuring the older Experience Team vs Youth team (easily won by the Youth team 28–22), and was equal top scorer with Alexander Beliavsky with 6.5/10.

Ratings and rankings:

The highest official rating achieved by Carlsen to date was 2882 in May 2014. His highest live rating was 2889.2 on 21 April 2014. Both are the highest ratings ever achieved.

By the end of the October 2017 rating period, Carlsen will have been world number one for a total of 87 months. He holds the record for the longest period as the world's top ranked Junior (U20) - 36 months - from 1 January 2008 until 31 December 2010. He was also both world number one junior and world number one player for the first 10 months of 2010. Furthermore, he holds the record for the highest rating acquired by any player aged 13, and 17 through to 24 inclusive.


Carlsen won the Chess Oscars for 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 and he was also awarded Norway's annual Peer Gynt Prize for 2011 for being "a person or institution that has achieved distinction in society". (2) After he won the World Championship he was awarded Norway's "Name of the Year" award for 2013. (3) He has two sisters, Ellen Oen Carlsen and Ingrid Oen Carlsen. Carlsen helped Anand prepare for the World Chess Championships in 2007 and 2008 and 2010. Carlsen has modeled for G-Star Raw, starting with its Autumn/Winter 2010 advertising campaign.

At the Sohn Conference held in New York in May 2015, Carlsen demonstrated his skill by playing three players in a blindfold clock simul. Carlsen and each of the three players were given nine minutes. Carlsen won 3-0. A video of the event can be seen at the link in footnote (4). On September 22, 2016 he was in New York City to play a simul against 11 users of the Play Magnus mobile app. Everybody had 30 minutes on their clocks. Magnus won 11 to 0 (Carlsen Play Live Simul (2016)).

General Sources:

Carlsen's FIDE player card; Wikipedia article: Magnus Carlsen; live rating:; official website:; blogs: (English language); (Norwegian language); World Championship Index: and Olimpbase, the Encyclopedia of Team Chess:


(1) Magnus Carlsen and Borki Predojevic play in Lillehammer -
(2) Chess star wins prestigious award -
(3) Magnus Carlsen vant tre av tre priser på Idrettsgallaen -
(4) Carlsen blitzes blindfold clock simul -


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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Carlsen vs S Randjelovic 0-1531999NOR Championships Group MiniputtA40 Queen's Pawn Game
2. Bendik Svendsen vs Carlsen 0-1371999NOR Championships Group MiniputtB20 Sicilian
3. Carlsen vs Thomas Lie ½-½351999NOR Championships Group MiniputtC44 King's Pawn Game
4. Audun Brekke Flotten vs Carlsen  1-0551999NOR Championships Group MiniputtA30 English, Symmetrical
5. Christian A Elboth vs Carlsen  0-1311999NOR Championships Group MiniputtB50 Sicilian
6. Carlsen vs Daniel Thomassen 1-0271999NOR Championships Group MiniputtA40 Queen's Pawn Game
7. Carlsen vs Thobias Kolbu  0-1261999NOR Championships Group MiniputtC50 Giuoco Piano
8. Carlsen vs Arne Selle  ½-½501999NOR Championships Group MiniputtD02 Queen's Pawn Game
9. Eldbjorg Blikra Vea vs Carlsen 0-1311999NOR Championships Group MiniputtB30 Sicilian
10. Haakon Oksnevad vs Carlsen  0-1491999NOR Championships Group MiniputtB30 Sicilian
11. Carlsen vs Havard Vederhus 0-1291999NOR Championships Group MiniputtB18 Caro-Kann, Classical
12. Carlsen vs Kjell Tage Ohman  0-1641999Skei Grand Prix Group BD48 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav, Meran
13. Odd Hansen vs Carlsen ½-½411999Skei Grand Prix Group BA45 Queen's Pawn Game
14. Carlsen vs L M Hansen 0-1271999Skei Grand Prix Group BD02 Queen's Pawn Game
15. Erling Flotten vs Carlsen  0-1512000Arnold Grand PrixB22 Sicilian, Alapin
16. H Carlsen vs Carlsen 1-0432000Arnold Grand PrixE12 Queen's Indian
17. Carlsen vs Jan Henrik Ytteborg 0-1592000Arnold Grand PrixA40 Queen's Pawn Game
18. Carlsen vs Paula Rause  1-0602000Arnold Grand PrixC62 Ruy Lopez, Old Steinitz Defense
19. Carlsen vs O Normann  0-1532000NTG Grand Prix Group BD18 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav, Dutch
20. P Brantzeg vs Carlsen  1-0602000NTG Grand Prix Group BA06 Reti Opening
21. Carlsen vs T Jacobsen  1-0342000NTG Grand Prix Group BD02 Queen's Pawn Game
22. Carlsen vs Jo Vederhus  1-0562000NTG Grand Prix Group BA46 Queen's Pawn Game
23. Carlsen vs J Svindahl 0-1422000XXXI Open NOR ChampionshipA36 English
24. Toan Thanh Pham vs Carlsen 1-0322000XXXI Open NOR ChampionshipB70 Sicilian, Dragon Variation
25. Carlsen vs T Solstad ½-½212000XXXI Open NOR ChampionshipE04 Catalan, Open, 5.Nf3
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Feb-06-07  Plato: <JointheArmy> Radjabov plays very ambitiously against the elite, and seems to take more risks. This shows in his opening repertoire, his aggressivity, and his recent results. Carlsen, as some others have noted, seems quite content to play for a draw against the same players that Radjabov is determined to beat.

Also if you read the interviews of Radjabov and compare them to those of Carlsen, Radjabov comes across as ... how should I put it ... less humble. I remember when he beat Kasparov with black and they asked him to comment, his answer was something like "Now I'm going to beat everybody else." (It didn't turn out quite like that, but you get the idea). Whereas I remember Carlsen, at some point, was not too happy with all the attention he was getting and wished that the public would follow Karjakin more than him.

Feb-06-07  Plato: <Rolfo> I think Karjakin is just a few months older than Carlsen, if I'm not mistaken.
Feb-06-07  Rolfo: <DrLecter> It is, and a line in a song I think.. (The next meeting Carlsen-Karjakin was in Corus and ended 1/2)
Feb-06-07  Delusional Patzer: <Plato> Radjabov is past his drawing habit but even up to last year you could see many games like this from him:

Kotronias vs Radjabov, 2005

less than 15 move short draws even against low 2600 and 2500 players.

Feb-07-07  Chess Classics: Good to see that Magnus made mincemeat of the lower-rated players, even if it was only a small blindfold tourney.


Feb-07-07  s4life: <Plato:Whereas I remember Carlsen, at some point, was not too happy with all the attention he was getting and wished that the public would follow Karjakin more than him.>

Those are personal traits and have little to do with killer instinct at the board, imho. People have the wrong impression that you have to be a d$%k like Kasparov in order to become a champion. Such requirement is neither sufficient nor necessary.

Feb-07-07  percyblakeney: It's not really fair to compare Carlsen with Radjabov, but when 15 the latter won three games in Corus and finished with an even score. When Carlsen's age now he finished 0.5 point after Anand and Kramnik but 1.5 ahead of Leko in Dortmund.

Not easy to compete with such results, but still Carlsen has this far scored slightly worse than expected in strong tournaments. He did have some very good games before, like when beating Adams, and I was sure he was going to win a game or two in the Tal Memorial or Corus. He will surely do better in the future, and maybe he will once again give Moro problems in Linares.

Feb-07-07  s4life: <percy> I wouldn't call it <slightly> worse, but he certainly will improve, maybe Linares is too soon though. It's in him to become either the next Fischer (chess-wise), the next Moro or just another top 20 GM (like Malakhov, for example - yet another prodigy who never really delivered when he reached maturity). He certainly has the talent and the youth to become whoever he wants.
Feb-07-07  TheGladiator: <s4life: Hmm.. didn't Radjabov get second in Linares and first in Corus? you don't get first or second by being happy with draws imho.>

In Corus A this year, Radja was rated ca. 2730. With higher rating (= greater strength) and more experience, his ambitions have grown, but you needn't look further than Biel 2006 to see that he seemed happy with draws in quite many of his games.

What I said, was: "Radjabov (and Karjakin for that sake) both have been accustomed to being happy with draws in a much greater extent than Magnus". One of the reasons it took Radjabov quite a long time to reach 2700, was that he has, in a sense, drawn his way up there, against stronger (and not so strong) players, instead of beating a lot of 2600-rated players (like it's fair to say Magnus has). This is partly so for Karjakin as well, even though his low activity is partly responsible as well.

<Also, I think it's fair to say that Carlsen's loses are more a product of his faults and inexperience rather than him being unhappy with a draw (since he has drawn ~ 90% of his games)>

Strictly logically speaking, the percentage of draws doesn't give any evidence at all of why the games were drawn - we need to look at the actual games to judge on that matter.

If we look at the recent two super-GM tournaments, I think his loss against Aronian (Tal) was due to inexperience, his losses against Ponomariov (twice) were due to faults and lack of experience and opening knowledge, his loss against Topalov was due to faults, lack of opening knowledge and a (sometimes too) strong will to have the initiative (Sxc5? instead of passive defence an exchange up) - the latter can be attributed to inexperience.

The losses against Navara and Svidler, I think were due to being unhappy with a draw (Navara), and having a bad start of the tournament _and_ being unhappy with a draw (Svidler). He also got lost or almost losing positions against Motylev and van Wely due to being unhappy with a draw. Of course, you can also coin the latter case as lack of experience, but that isn't really in disagreement with what I say.

Also, giving the high number of draws in these two tournaments as evidence of Magnus being happy with draws, is too easy. Currently, I don't think his opening repertoir is strong enough to get good chances to fight for a win against the very top - indeed, in Tal Memorial he actually had to fight for the draw as white several times, due to weak opening play.

That Magnus wants to win, but yet isn't experienced enough to decide when he should "give up" his efforts to do so, doesn't counter the fact that he's got a real urge to win!

Feb-07-07  TheGladiator: <Plato: Carlsen, as some others have noted, seems quite content to play for a draw against the same players that Radjabov is determined to beat.>

I don't get that impression from watching his or Radjabov's games. Radja's recent KID success is of a fairly new date, but he's been playing the KID for a long time, while Magnus hasn't really established a repertoir for neither black nor white. He's just been trying out lots of stuff, with a (strange) preference for odd side-lines so far (which probably works better against semi-strong players).

<I think Karjakin is just a few months older than Carlsen, if I'm not mistaken.>

10,5 months, actually. Quite close to a year. Moreover, Magnus has climbed from low 2500s to a peak of 2698 in about 1,5 years recently - you don't do that by drawing many games.

Feb-07-07  TheGladiator: <Plato: Meanwhile I've seen more of a killer instinct with Karjakin and especially Radjabov.>

I think you're mixing instincts/attitude with results here. In Corus, for instance, Karjakin won his games mostly by capitalizing on mistakes (Navara, Shirov, Svidler) and over-ambitious and careless play (Svidler). Magnus failed to capitalize on the mistakes of e.g. Navara and Motylev, but he really wanted to beat them (look at how many times he avoided taking the draw against Navara, e.g. by getting the exchange back).

Look at Biel 2006 for an example of Radjabov's killer instinct. I think it's closer to the truth that his KID give unbalanced positions which Radja knows very well, and that these games therefore result in a decisive outcome. But if you really want to base your argument on results (even if the sense in that can be questioned), then you should review the results of Magnus, Radjabov and Karjakin from the last two years. I might have a look myself...

Feb-07-07  s4life: <Gladiator> Well, I guess we are in agreement to a certain point. What you call <being happy with a draw>, Khalifman calls it SCHOOL, and I would add a bit of own and call it the ability/technique/mental stability to avoid losing a balanced position against a better or equal player. Certainly, both Karjakin and Radjabov posses that in greater measure than Carlsen as of now.

What you call <unhappy with a draw> is another expression for inexperience: get upset over a missed win and go on to lose the end game, owned in the opening, play for a win when the position only calls for a draw and so on.

I agree though, 90% doesn't mean he's happy with draws, it most likely means that cannot win.. yet.

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  alexmagnus: My question seems to have lost itself in the discussion...Does anyone know what happened with
Feb-07-07  slomarko: no, nobody knows.
Feb-07-07  Plato: <TheGladiator> Well, I disagree. Even before Radjabov's great recent successes, he seemed to be playing more ambitiously against top level opponents (like Anand, Kasparov, etc) in quite a few of his games. The repertoire that he established as Black was considered aggressive but dubious by many players, but he's been scoring extremely well so far.

Carlsen is a super talent, of course, but I've noticed that he hasn't played very ambitiously in most of his games against the elite. But all of this will change, I'm sure, as he gets older and he gains more confidence.

<s4life> Yes, I agree; I don't think it's necessary to be a jerk in order to be a great player. I do remember a lot of people thinking that Anand's problem was being "a nice guy," and I never agreed with that. But what I've noticed is primarily a matter of style and will to win on the board. It's possible that the will to win seems stronger with Radjabov simply because he is the stronger player of the two meanwhile, but I think Carlsen is still developing his style whereas Radjabov's is better defined. Just my opinion, though. I'm a big fan of Carlsen, I just think he's going to be more dangerous to the elite in a couple of years.

Feb-07-07  TheGladiator: <s4life: I would add a bit of own and call it the ability/technique/mental stability to avoid losing a balanced position against a better or equal player.>

A bit too often, though, I think this "ability" not to lose balanced position, boils down to accepting or offering a draw somewhere between move 15 and 25, instead of playing out a game to its logical conclusion. It's easier to avoid mistakes when playing 5-10 moves on your own out of theory, than when playing 30-40 moves...

If you look at my previous comments about Karjakin and Magnus (after e.g. Corus), I for instance said that Karjakin is a better technician than Magnus at the moment, so we don't disagree on that part. This goes for Radjabov as well.

Some ppl though will always criticise Magnus - when he plays a good game against strong opposition, but realizes that he hasn't got enough to play for a win, he plays "boring draws", and when he's too ambitious, then he's inexperienced and hasn't got "the ability/technique/mental stability to avoid losing a balanced position" ;)

Of course, one could alternatively do like Khalifman (who's got SCHOOL) - go for the draw always :)

And yep, I agree that at least his openings need to be improved for him to be able to go on to play for a win most of the time. Unlike e.g. Topalov (who's famous for going for the win "always", and has become so mainly due to the enabling and significant opening preparations of his team), he hasn't got dedicated ppl to work out a number of novelties in his favorite lines. So I guess we'll have to expect a slow, but steady improvement in Magnus opening play.

Feb-07-07  Plato: <s4life, TheGladiator> What gives you guys the idea that "going for the draw" is what Khalifman means by "school"? I think he was just referring to the fact that Karjakin has a team of experienced Soviet trainers working with him in a systematic way, and that Carlsen's trainers, in his opinion, might be good but don't really measure up. On the other hand, Radjabov hasn't even had a trainer for many years now, and look where he's at.
Feb-07-07  TheGladiator: <plato> I just made a joke about Khalifman's strong desire to draw games himself - I think I'm well aware of what Khalifman refers to by "school". :) Btw, in my opinion, Magnus has practically been without a real trainer most of the time so far. Nielsen is only occasionally used as a second, and Agdestein has never been a real trainer to Magnus, and not at all for the last couple of years. <The repertoire that [Radjabov] established as Black was considered aggressive but dubious by many players, but he's been scoring extremely well so far.>

Counting from when? Here are some stats that I collected - I will do the same for their white games of 2003/2006 tonight:

Radjabov, with black, classical chess, 2003
Own rating: 2624 - 2650

Against 2650+:
+5-10=11 - 26 games, score 10,5/26

Strongest tournaments: Corus A, Linares, Bosnia, Enghien les Bains, Dortmund, Benidorm/Bali Stars

+Ponomariov (2734)
+Kasparov (2847)
+Gelfand (2700)
+Anand (2774)
+Azmaiparashvili (2693)

Against 2000-2649:
+4-2=5 - 11 games, score 6,5/11

Total, 37 games, score 17/37


Magnus, with black, classical chess, 2006
Own rating: 2625 - 2698

Against 2650+:
+3-4=17 - 24 games, score 11,5/24

Strongest tournaments: Corus B, Bosnia, Olympiad, Biel, Tal Memorial

+Naiditsch (2657)
+Naiditsch (2664)
+Morozevitsch (2731)

Against 2000-2649:
+17-2=11 - 30 games, score 22,5/30

Total, 54 games, score 34/54


So, when Radjabov was as old as Magnus was last year (actually Radja was a few months older), he was already getting invitations to stronger tournaments than Magnus at the same age (the difference isn't big, but still there). Moreover, he almost stopped playing other tournaments, even though his rating was "only" 2624 at the beginning of 2003 (amounting to a shared 65th place on top 100 - Magnus (2625) was in shared 89th place with equal rating 3 years later).

In 26 games against 2650+ -players, he won 2 more than Magnus (who played 24 such games), and he also beat "pretty strong" players. The total number of draws and losses were the same - 21 - but of these games Magnus lost only 4, while Radjabov lost 10. "Scoring extremely well"?

Against players below 2650, Radjabov scored just above 50% (+2) in 11 games, with more draws than wins. Magnus on the other hand, scored 17 wins and "only" 11 draws for a +15 score in 30 games (as black!). True, Magnus played more "weak" tournaments and players than Radjabov, but those +4-2=5 statistic against equal or lower rated players for Radja isn't scoring "extremely well" in my book. The stats also show that they've moved from 2625 to 2700 territory in quite different ways.

After the time of these stats, Magnus has played one tournament with a sub-par performance. But taking everything into account, I think it looks like he's well on schedule if Radjabov is the measure.

Feb-07-07  TheGladiator: (There was a couple of mistakes in a previous version of the post above, in case you're shouting at me for not knowing how to count ;)
Feb-07-07  TheGladiator: <Plato: It's possible that the will to win seems stronger with Radjabov simply because he is the stronger player of the two>

That's about what I meant, when I asked if you were mixing results with instincts/attitude. I agree that Radjabov is stronger _now_ than Magnus is _now_.

<but I think Carlsen is still developing his style whereas Radjabov's is better defined. Just my opinion, though.>

Agree on this too.

<I'm a big fan of Carlsen, I just think he's going to be more dangerous to the elite in a couple of years.>

Isn't that pretty self-evident? I see no reason why Magnus' development suddenly should halt. Maybe his rating stays below 2700 for another year (or longer), but I just can't imagine a 16 year old being at his peak as a chess player :)

Feb-07-07  Plato: <TheGladiator> What do you mean "only used as a second"? A second is a trainer, as I'm sure you are well aware. And Agdestein has worked extensively with Carlsen for a few years, as I'm sure you are well aware.

I was talking about Radjabov's recent results. And regardless, wins against some of the names you mentioned, with Black, is quite successfull in and of itself. It is undeniable that Radjabov has had more impressive results than Carlsen, overall. Radjabov is older, of course, that goes without saying. I'm sure Carlsen will continue to progress. But if you look at the games of Carlsen against top-flight opposition and compare them to those of Radjabov, you'll see that Radjabov tends to fight harder for the win and has achieved a higher ratio of wins against them. Just look at the recent games.

Feb-07-07  Plato: <Isn't that pretty self-evident?>

You seem to have missed the point. I was implying that Carlsen is not much of a threat to the elite right now, whereas Radjabov has already proven that he is.

Feb-07-07  TheGladiator: <Plato: What do you mean "only used as a second"? A second is a trainer, as I'm sure you are well aware.>

A "second" is an assistant for a specific event. At least that's the way it's been for Magnus and Nielsen. It's not like Nielsen is spending time for or with Magnus at other occasions.

<And Agdestein has worked extensively with Carlsen for a few years, as I'm sure you are well aware.>

Ehm... I just wrote this: <Agdestein has never been a real trainer to Magnus, and not at all for the last couple of years.>

Do you think this is something I've made up? Of course, I didn't go into details about I meant with a "real trainer" - I can if you want me to, but first I'd like you to answer a few questions, if you don't mind:

What is your source for "Agdestein has worked extensively with Carlsen for a few years"? Have you read Wonderboy, for instance? Or some foreign (not Norwegian) chess magazine/paper/whatever? How much time do you reckon Agdestein has spent with Magnus in 2005 and 2006 for instance?

I'm just curious as to what myths live their life out there...

Feb-07-07  TheGladiator: <Plato: I was implying that Carlsen is not much of a threat to the elite right now, whereas Radjabov has already proven that he is.>

I guess it depends on how you define "threat to the elite". No, I don't think Magnus can win any super-GM tournament now or in the next 12-18 months. I think he will beat some super-GMs, though, and not lose to very many.

Feb-07-07  Plato: <Against 2000-2649>

Those statistics are rather stacked in Carlsen's favor, because Radjabov ONLY plays against strong opposition. So when you see such a nice list of victories for Carlsen and so few for Radjabov, well compare how many 2000-2500 players Carlsen was up against to how many Radjabov was up against (probably zero). It's rare to see Radjabov play against someone with a sub-2600 rating, so if you want to be objective with the numbers, you should compare their overall results against players 2600+.

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