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Magnus Carlsen
Number of games in database: 1,494
Years covered: 2000 to 2013
Last FIDE rating: 2868
Highest rating achieved in database: 2872
Overall record: +383 -166 =420 (61.2%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      525 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (152) 
    B90 B40 B30 B43 B46
 Ruy Lopez (98) 
    C78 C65 C84 C67 C77
 Slav (49) 
    D15 D17 D12 D10 D11
 Nimzo Indian (46) 
    E32 E20 E21 E36 E54
 French Defense (36) 
    C11 C02 C00 C10 C03
 Semi-Slav (33) 
    D43 D45 D47 D44
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (156) 
    B33 B30 B22 B90 B76
 Ruy Lopez (97) 
    C67 C95 C65 C69 C78
 Queen's Indian (70) 
    E15 E12 E17 E13 E18
 Nimzo Indian (36) 
    E34 E21 E32 E55 E37
 Grunfeld (35) 
    D85 D86 D80 D82 D70
 Ruy Lopez, Closed (35) 
    C95 C91 C88 C96 C90
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Carlsen vs S Ernst, 2004 1-0
   Carlsen vs H Harestad, 2003 1-0
   J L Hammer vs Carlsen, 2003 0-1
   Kramnik vs Carlsen, 2008 0-1
   Carlsen vs A Groenn, 2005 1-0
   Carlsen vs Aronian, 2008 1-0
   Carlsen vs G Tallaksen Ostmoe, 2005 1-0
   Carlsen vs H A Gretarsson, 2003 1-0
   Jakovenko vs Carlsen, 2007 0-1
   Aronian vs Carlsen, 2008 0-1

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Norwegian Championship (2004)
   Norwegian Championship (2005)
   FIDE World Cup (2005)
   Corus Wijk aan Zee Group B (2006)
   Midnight Sun Chess Challenge (2006)
   XXII Reykjavik Open (2006)
   Norwegian Championship (2006)
   Arctic Chess Challenge (2007)
   World Chess Cup (2007)
   Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2009)
   Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2010)
   Tata Steel (2013)

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   Mozart of chess by zarg
   magnus carlsen .. by sk.sen
   Carlsen Favorites by chocobonbon
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 2000-2010 (Part 2) by Anatoly21
   Carlsen's winning miniatures by alexmagnus
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MAGNUS CARLSEN
(born Nov-30-1990) Norway

[what is this?]
Magnus Carlsen is the world's top ranked player and possesses the highest standard FIDE rating ever posted.

Background:

He was born in Tønsberg, Vestfold. His parents are Sigrun Øen and Henrik Carlsen, both of whom are engineers. His father taught him chess at the age of eight after which he soon played his first tournament, a junior (Miniputt) Norwegian championship. He was coached by 7-times Norwegian Champion Simen Agdestein and by Curt Hansen. He won the title of International Master in 2003 at the age of 12 years 7 months and 25 days. In 2004, after having gained over 300 rating points in little over a year, he became the second-youngest grandmaster in chess history at the time, behind only Sergey Karjakin, at the age of 13 years 4 months and 27 days. Parimarjan Negi later pipped his record by 5 days to become the 2nd youngest grandmaster ever.

Championships:

<Age>: Carlsen won the 2001 U10 Nordic Championship. In 2002, he placed =1st in the Open Norwegian Junior Championship with 5.5/7, but easily won the same event the following year with 6/6. Carlsen started with 4/4 at the 2002 U12 European Championship but faded to finish sixth. In the 2002 U12 World Championship a few weeks later, Carlsen was sole leader coming into the last round, but was held to a draw by David Howell, enabling Ian Nepomniachtchi to equal his score and to win on tiebreak. He placed =3rd at the 2003 U14 European Championship, half a point behind Sergei Zhigalko and Tornike Sanikidze, a short time later placing =9th with 7.5/11 at the World U14 Championship in Halkidiki.

<National and Continental>: A couple of weeks after being eliminated from the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004) (see below), he placed =1st in the 2004 Norwegian Championship. However, after a 2-game play-off match with co-leader and until then, 6-time Norwegian champion, Berge Ostenstad was drawn, Østenstad was declared winner on tiebreak. In the 2005 Norwegian Chess Championship, Carlsen again finished in a shared first place, this time with his mentor Simen Agdestein. A rapid game playoff between them resulted in Agdestein’s victory by 3.5-2.5 (+2 -1 =3). Carlsen finally won the Norwegian Championship in 2006, after defeating Simen Agdestein in a tie-break match.

Carlsen’s first and and so far only participation in the continental championship in 2005 provided a solid 22-point boost to his rating when he scored 8/13 in the 6th European Individual Championship (2005).

<World>: Carlsen qualified for the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004), but was eliminated in the 1st round tiebreaker by Levon Aronian. His hopes to become a contender for the World Championship in the future took a big step forward by placing tenth at the FIDE World Cup (2005), becoming the youngest player ever to qualify for the Candidates. In his first Candidates match in Elista in May, he drew 3-3 in the six slow games of the Candidates Match: Aronian-Carlsen (2007) before losing in rapid-play tie-breaks. He reached the final four in the World Chess Cup (2007) before being defeated in the semi-finals by the eventual winner, Gata Kamsky. Carlsen's final placing in the 2007 World Cup qualified him for participation in the FIDE Grand Prix for 2008-09. Soon afterwards he tied for first place in the Baku Grand Prix (2008), the first round of FIDE's inaugural Grand Prix series. Carlsen later withdrew from the Grand Prix cycle despite his excellent result in Baku, complaining about "dramatic changes to ... regulations." and that “…changing the rules dramatically in the middle of a cycle is simply unacceptable.”

On the basis of his rating, Carlsen qualified for the Candidates Tournament that would determine the challenger to World Champion Viswanathan Anand in 2012. In November 2010, however, Carlsen announced he was withdrawing from the Candidates tournament. Carlsen described the 2008–12 cycle as not "...sufficiently modern and fair", and added that "Reigning champion privileges, the long (five year) span of the cycle, changes made during the cycle resulting in a new format (Candidates) that no World Champion has had to go through since Kasparov, puzzling ranking criteria as well as the shallow ceaseless match-after-match concept are all less than satisfactory in my opinion." Carlsen qualified for the World Championship Candidates (2013) that was played in London, again on the basis of his rating. He placed =1st with Vladimir Kramnik on 8.5/14 after both players lost their last round games, but as the first tiebreaker (score against each other in the tournament which was 1-1) failed to break the tie, he won on the 2nd tiebreak which stipulated that the player with the greater number of wins takes first place; he had scored 5 wins to Kramnik's 4.

Carlsen will now challenge World Champion Anand and the Anand-Carlsen World Championship (2013) will be played in Chennai in November 2013.

Classical Tournaments:

Carlsen earned his first IM norm in January 2003 at the Gausdal Troll Masters when he scored 7/10. His second IM norm came in June 2003 at the Salongernas IM-tournament in Stockholm where he scored 6/9 and his third IM norm came in the following month at the 2003 Politiken Cup in Copenhagen where he scored 8/11. In early 2004, Carlsen made a major international impact when he won Corus C with 10.5/13, easily winning his first grandmaster norm and earning his entry to the Corus B in 2005. Carlsen obtained his second grandmaster norm in the 3rd Aeroflot Festival (2004) in February and his third grandmaster norm at the sixth 6th Dubai Open (2004), held between 18th and 28th April.

Soon afterwards he placed 3rd at the 12th Sigeman & Co Chess Tournament (2004) followed later that month with a solid =3rd place at the Politiken Cup 2004, a half point behind the leaders Darmen Sadvakasov and compatriot Leif Erlend Johannessen. In October 2005, he won the Gausdal Bygger'n Masters in Norway with 8/9 ahead of 9 other grandmasters. He continued to improve in 2006, tying Alexander Motylev for first place in Corus Wijk aan Zee Group B (2006). After several more strong performances during the year, including 6.5/9 at the XXII Reykjavik Open (2006), =2nd at Bosna Sarajevo Tournament (2006), =2nd behind Sergei Shipov at the Midnight Sun Challenge at Breivika videregaende skole in Norway, =2nd at Biel Int'l Festival (2006) (after beating the winner Alexander Morozevich twice), first at the Gausdal Classics GM-A and a joint second-place finish at Linares-Morelia (2007), he crossed the 2700-mark, the youngest player ever to do so. A relatively poor result at Dortmund (2007) (3/7) was followed by a win at Biel Chess Festival (2007) (His score was equaled by Alexander Onischuk and so they played a tie-breaker match to determine the winner. After drawing two rapid and two blitz games, Carlsen won the Armageddon game) and a par for rating =2nd at the Arctic Chess Challenge (2007) where he scored 7/9, a half point behind the leader Alexander Moiseenko, and 3rd at the Tal Memorial (2007) in November 2007.

In 2008 Carlsen was the joint winner of Corus (2008) A-Group together with Levon Aronian, and placed second in Morelia-Linares (2008) behind Anand. He won clear first place at Aerosvit (2008) with a dominant 8/11 score. His "disappointing" third placement at 41st Biel International Chess Festival (2008) with 6/10, a half point behind joint winners Leinier Dominguez Perez and Evgeny Alekseev, was nevertheless still a 2740 performance, whilst his equal second in the Bilbao Grand Slam Chess Final (2008) with 5.0/10 was a 2768 performance. His relatively meagre 7/13 at Corus (2009) was followed by equal second placement behind Kramnik at Dortmund (2009) with a 2773 performance and 2nd with 5/9 at the M-Tel Masters (2009). The arrival of Garry Kasparov in 2009 as his coach enabled Carlsen's finest tournament performance to date, and one of the best tournament results in the history of chess. Carlsen eclipsed a stellar field consisting of Topalov, Peter Leko, Dmitry Jakovenko, Teimour Radjabov and Wang Yue to win clear first prize with 8/10 at the category XXI Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2009). Carlsen's performance rating for the tournament was a record 3002 and lifted his FIDE rating in the November 2009 list to 2801, which made him only the fifth player to surpass 2800, and easily the youngest. After a slow start, Carlsen placed equal second with Vassily Ivanchuk behind Vladimir Kramnik in the Category XXI Tal Memorial (2009), which fielded ten of the world's top thirteen rated players. He saw out 2009 with a win at the London Chess Classic (2009), a point ahead of Kramnik, a result which pushed him to the top of the world ratings in January 2010.

2010 saw Carlsen's success continue, winning Corus (2010) outright with 8.5/13, half a point ahead of joint second placegetters Kramnik and Alexey Shirov. In June 2010, he won the category XXI King's Tournament (2010) in Bazna in Romania by a clear two points with 7.5/10 and a 2918 performance. Following mediocre performances at the 2010 Olympiad and the category XXII Bilbao Masters (2010), Carlsen returned to form by winning the category XXI Nanjing Pearl Spring Tournament (2010) outright with 7/10 (+4 -0 =6) and a 2901 rating performance, a full point ahead of World Champion Anand who took outright second with 6/10, and finishing the year by winning the London Chess Classic (2010) for the second time in succession. After a slow start in the Tata Steel (2011) super tournament, Carlsen finished =3rd with Levon Aronian behind Hikaru Nakamura and Anand with 8/13 and a performance rating of 2821. He followed up in June by winning the Bazna King's Tournament (2011) on tiebreak ahead of Karjakin, both finishing with 6.5/10, and by winning Biel Chess Festival (2011) in July with a round to spare and with a final score of 7/10 (TPR 2835). After another characteristically slow start, Carlsen placed =1st with Ivanchuk at the 4th Bilbao Masters (2011) with 15 points under the Bilbao scoring system (+3 -1 =6) and a 2842 performance rating, ultimately winning the tournament in a blitz tiebreaker. Then in November 2011, Carlsen won the Tal Memorial (2011) on tiebreak with 5.5/9 (+2 =7 -0 and a TPR of 2850) over Aronian. Carlsen finished 2011 with 3rd place at the category 20 London Chess Classic (2011) behind Kramnik and Nakamura, scoring +3 =5 (TPR of 2879). 2012 started with =2nd (+4 -1 =8; TPR 2830) behind Aronian and alongside Radjabov and Fabiano Caruana at the Category 21 Tata Steel (2012). He won the category 22 Tal Memorial (2012) outright with 5.5/9 (+2 =7) and a TPR of 2849. The month after his strong results in the World Blitz he finished outright second behind Wang Hao in the Grandmaster Tournament of the Biel Chess Festival (2012). In October 2012, Carlsen repeated his 2011 feat at Bilbao by winning the Bilbao Masters (2012) in a tiebreaker, this time against Caruana. He finished up 2012 by winning the London Chess Classic (2012), the third time he has done so, with a score of 6.5/8 (+5 =3 -0) and a TPR of 2994 (only fractionally below his record effort at Pearl Springs in 2009). London 2012 was also made historic for the fact that Carlsen's result lifted his January 2013 rating to a new record, exceeding Kasparov's record 2851 by 10 points.

Building on his achievements of 2012, Carlsen won the category 20 Tata Steel (2013) tournament with a round to spare, his final score being 10/13. He also set a new live rating record of 2874 after his round 12 win over Nakamura. In May 2013 he played in the category 21 Norway Chess Tournament (2013) held in the Stavanger Region of Norway and came 2nd with 5.5/9, half a point behind the winner Sergey Karjakin; in the preliminary Norway Chess Tournament (Blitz) (2013) held to determine the draw, he came 2nd with 6/9 behind Karjakin, thereby earning 5 games as White out of the 9 to be played.

Rapid:

Carlsen won the Glitnir Blitz Tournament in 2006 in Iceland. In September 2006 Carlsen placed 8th out of 16 participants at the World Blitz Championship (2006) in Rishon LeZion, Israel. In the blitz tournament associated with the Tal Memorial 2006, namely the Tal Blitz Cup, Carlsen scored 17½/34 points and placed 9th in a group of 18 participants. In March 2007, Carlsen played for the first time in the Melody Amber blind and rapid chess tournament in Monte Carlo. In the 11 rounds of the 16th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2007), he achieved eight draws and three losses (placing =9th) then scored three wins, seven draws and one loss in the 16th Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2007) (=2nd), for an overall 8th place in the combined tournament. In March 2008, Carlsen played for the second time in the Melody Amber blind and rapid chess tournament, which was held in Nice for the first time. Carlsen achieved four wins, four draws and two losses in the Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2008), and three wins, two losses, and six draws in the Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2008), resulting in a shared second place in the overall tournament.

In the Chess Classic Mainz (2008), Carlsen finished in second place after losing the final to defending champion Anand 3:1 (two losses, two draws). 2009 saw Carlsen score equal first in the Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2009) with 7/11 alongside Kramnik and Aronian, and equal second with Veselin Topalov at M-Tel Masters (2009) behind Shirov with a 2822 performance. He also won the XXII Magistral Ciudad de Leon (2009), a rapid knockout tournament, ahead of Morozevich, Ivanchuk, and Wang Yue. Just a few days after his 2nd placement at the Tal Memorial (2009), he won the World Blitz Championship (2009) with 31/42, a full three points ahead of runner-up Anand. He shared first place at the 2010 Amber Rapid and Blindfold Tournament with Ivanchuk; scoring 6½ points in the blindfold and 8 points in the rapid, Carlsen accumulated 14½ from a possible 22 points. After a slow start in the Arctic Securities Chess Stars (2010) rapid tournament, he continued his success by defeating Anand in the two-game playoff for gold. In the World Blitz Championship (2010), held in Moscow on 16–18 November, Carlsen attempted to defend his 2009 title. With a score of 23½/38, he finished in third place behind Radjabov and the winner Aronian. After the tournament, Carlsen played a private 40-game blitz match against Hikaru Nakamura, winning with a score of 23½–16½. A phenomenal 9.5/11, 2.5 points clear of the field, in 20th Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2011) was insufficient for him to win the overall contest, as his results in the 20th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2011) were poor, resulting in a 2nd overall to 2008 and 2009 overall winner Aronian. In July 2012 he came clear 2nd in the World Rapid Championship (2012) behind Karjakin with 10.5/15, and clear 2nd in the World Blitz Championship (2012) with 19.5/30, half a point behind Alexander Grischuk.

Matches:

The DSB Bank match between Loek Van Wely and Magnus Carlsen took place 28th April - 1st May 2006. The four game classical time limit match was tied 2-2. Carlsen won the blitz portion of the match 3.5-0.5. He won a rapid match against Peter Leko held in Miskolc, Hungary, scoring 5:3 (+2 =6).

Team:

<Olympiad>: Carlsen represented Norway on board 1 in the 36th Olympiad (2004), the 37th Chess Olympiad (2006), the Olympiad (2008) and in the Chess Olympiad (2010). His best result was in the 2006 Olympiad, where he scored 6 points from 8 games and came 5th for board 1.

<National> He played board 1 for Norway at the European Team Chess Championships (2007) and won an individual silver medal.

<Club> Carlsen played four seasons in the European Club Cup. In 2001 and 2003 he played for Asker Norway on board 6 and board 1 (after he had gained his FM title) respectively, while his father Henrik was reserve on both occasions. In 2007 he played board 3 for OS Baden Baden, and in 2008 he played top board for MIKA Yerevan. His total game result from these 4 seasons was 15.5/27 (+11 -7 =9). He also played in the Norwegian Team Championship in 2002, 2003, 2005 and 2006, in the Bundesliga in the 2004-05, 2006-07, 2007/08, 2008-09 seasons, and in the Dutch Team Championship 2007.

In August 2006, he played in the NH Hotels event featuring the older Experience Team vs Youth team (easily won by the Youth team 28–22), and was equal top scorer with Alexander Beliavsky with 6.5/10.

Rating:

Carlsen's 1 May 2013 FIDE ratings are:

<Classical>: 2868, making him the top ranked player in the world. By the end of the May 2013 rating period, he will have been world number one for a total of 33 months. He holds the record for the longest period as the world's top ranked Junior (U20) - 36 months - from 1 January 2008 until 31 December 2010. He was also both world number one junior and world number one player for the first 10 months of 2010. Furthermore, he holds the record for the highest rating acquired by any player aged 13, and 15 through to 22 inclusive.

<Rapid>: 2845, number 1 in the world (April 2013); and

<Blitz>: 2856, number 3 in the world after Karjakin (2873) and Grischuk (2858) (April 2013).

Other:

Carlsen won the Chess Oscars for 2009, 2010, and 2011, and he was also awarded Norway's annual Peer Gynt Prize for 2011 for being "a person or institution that has achieved distinction in society".* He has two sisters, Ellen Oen Carlsen and Ingrid Oen Carlsen. Carlsen helped Anand prepare for the World Chess Championships in 2007 and 2008 and 2010. Carlsen modeled for G-Star Raw's Autumn/Winter 2010 advertising campaign.

Sources and footnotes:

Wikipedia article: Magnus Carlsen; live rating: http://www.2700chess.com/; official website: http://www.magnuscarlsen.com/; blogs: http://www.arcticsec.no/index.php?b... (English language) and http://simonsenlaw.no/ (Norwegian language); * http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/03...


 page 1 of 60; games 1-25 of 1,494  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. A Flaata vs Carlsen 1-024 2000 Stjernen Grand PrixA07 King's Indian Attack
2. Carlsen vs H Sannes 1-060 2000 Det åpne NMA27 English, Three Knights System
3. Carlsen vs J Svindahl 0-142 2000 Det åpne NMA36 English
4. G Kaiser vs Carlsen 0-136 2000 Bayern-chI Bank Hofmann 4thB08 Pirc, Classical
5. Carlsen vs I Cordts 0-130 2000 Bayern-chI Bank Hofmann 4thA31 English, Symmetrical, Benoni Formation
6. M Svendsen vs Carlsen 1-039 2000 Det åpne NMC02 French, Advance
7. H Bartels vs Carlsen  ½-½48 2000 Bayern-chI Bank Hofmann 4thC59 Two Knights
8. Carlsen vs P Brantzeg 0-152 2000 ASKOs Pinseturnering, Gruppe BC18 French, Winawer
9. T Christenson vs Carlsen 0-146 2000 Det åpne NMB70 Sicilian, Dragon Variation
10. Carlsen vs L Olzem  ½-½36 2000 Bayern-chI Bank Hofmann 4thD00 Queen's Pawn Game
11. Carlsen vs T Nielsen 0-145 2000 Det åpne NMA10 English
12. Carlsen vs T Solstad ½-½21 2000 Det åpne NME04 Catalan, Open, 5.Nf3
13. Carlsen vs I Cordts  0-130 2000 Bayern-chI Bank Hofmann 4thA31 English, Symmetrical, Benoni Formation
14. K Ovesen vs Carlsen 1-038 2000 Det åpne NMA46 Queen's Pawn Game
15. Toan Thanh Pham vs Carlsen 1-032 2000 Det åpne NMB70 Sicilian, Dragon Variation
16. Carlsen vs E Blomqvist 1-021 2001 Nordic-chTC78 Ruy Lopez
17. K Ribbegren vs Carlsen 1-028 2001 Astlandserien 01/02 div. 1, Asker - ASKO IE30 Nimzo-Indian, Leningrad
18. Carlsen vs A Caoili ½-½34 2001 Classics IMAB43 Sicilian, Kan, 5.Nc3
19. Carlsen vs D Stojanovski  ½-½20 2001 ECCA34 English, Symmetrical
20. O Hagberg vs Carlsen 0-138 2001 Open NOR-chC42 Petrov Defense
21. H Sorensen vs Carlsen 1-050 2001 Troll MastersD48 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav, Meran
22. Carlsen vs E Vegh 0-134 2001 Classics IMAB40 Sicilian
23. J A Nilssen vs Carlsen  1-048 2001 Nordic ChampionshipsE06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
24. C Grubert vs Carlsen 1-024 2001 Troll MastersC42 Petrov Defense
25. Carlsen vs K Indrebo 1-035 2001 ECCA81 Dutch
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May-19-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  ketchuplover: Carlsen can only dream of being as good as Haolin Zhao.
May-19-13  csmath: Magnus did not play bad except for one game. However there is some saturation of sorts, he is being somewhat predictable. I think a good rest would do him a favor but that is obviously opposite to the way he prepares as he is admittedly lazy without playing tournaments.

He will have serious problems with Anand since Anand will be well prepared (as usual) and it seems Anand has some old flashes of brilliancy within him still.

I would like to see Magnus getting some better opening preparations for the match but this might be just my wishful thinking.

May-19-13  cendorila: <I would like to see Magnus getting some better opening preparations for the match but this might be just my wishful thinking.>

He can hire Wesley So. His opening repertoire will increase exponentially if he did.

May-20-13  Fiona Macleod: A training match between So and Carlsen before the WC will help Carlsen since So and Anand have similarities in style.
May-20-13  iking: <OhioChessFan: People should be celeberating the success of Karjakin, who had recently appeared to hit a bit of a wall, instead of scorning a mere second place finish by Carlsen.>

yes, i will

May-20-13  cendorila: Carlsen should skip the tal memorial to preserve some energy but should play in the World Cup so he will not be labeled as deserter.

Just an opinion so let his manager decides.

May-20-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  SetNoEscapeOn: Carlsen playing in the World Cup would be pretty sensational, and quite brave. Most of the top players have been unwilling to risk being knocked out by lesser GMs.
May-20-13  KKDEREK: <he will not be labeled as deserter.> By whom? SO bots? Who cares? Piss off Glen Salem!
May-20-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: <KKDEREK> lmao...
May-21-13  cendorila: <SetNoEscapeOn: Carlsen playing in the World Cup would be pretty sensational, and quite brave. Most of the top players have been unwilling to risk being knocked out by lesser GMs.>

Spot on. Truth is served, loud and clear. 10-4, aye aye Sir!!!

May-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Absentee: The "risk" of being knocked out by an opponent rated 500 points less is next to zero.
May-21-13  Fiona Macleod: 1 then.
May-21-13  pbercker: or -1. :)
May-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  alexmagnus: What is the biggest upset in the history of chess Ko competitions? (FIDE WC 1999-2004, Worldcup), in terms of rating differences? By "upset" I mean the stronger player being eliminated, not just losing a game.
May-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eyal: Most of the top players actually do participate in the world cup – unless one considers only Carlsen, Aronian, Kramnik, Anand & Topalov as top players. Those of them who don't participate usually just don't need it to qualify to the WC match/Candidates, since they do it in other ways. In 2009, except for those who qualified in other ways, only Leko didn't participate out of the top-20; in 2011, only Nakamura & Topalov.

If Carlsen does play this time he'll probably be joined by Aronian & Kramnik, since they can't qualify to the Candidates otherwise - the regulations for this cycle state that <A player can qualify by rating only if he/she participates in the World Cup 2013 or the FIDE Grand Prix 2012-2013> (http://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/r...).

May-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  parmetd: will carlsen play anand again before their match? anyone know?
May-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eyal: Yes, both of them are supposed to play in the Tal Memorial next month.
May-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  SetNoEscapeOn: That's what I meant. It started back with Karpov and Kasparov's refusal.
May-21-13  voyager39: I wouldn't consider it beyond Magnus to bust the myth of preparation and continue playing tournaments into the wee hours before the WCC. He's young, he's far ahead on ratings vis-a-vis Anand, he's also got a cool head on his shoulders.

That said, its a very double edged thing honestly.

May-21-13  cendorila: <Absentee: The "risk" of being knocked out by an opponent rated 500 points less is next to zero.>

Not all participants have 500 points differential.

Remember the Alamo?

Ivanchuk vs W So, 2009

Kamsky vs W So, 2009

If I am not mistaken, Magnus lost to some unknown player way below his rating, so I say, the risk is there, be it .0001 still a risk.

Let the brave warriors battle it out.

May-21-13  pbercker: @ <cendorila> You are mistaken. My guess is that you didn't even bother to look it up.

In 2005 he was rated 2570, and he won over higher rated players at each round until he was knocked out by Evgeny Bareev (RUS), 2675.

In 2007, he was rated 2714 - he went to the semi-finals and was knocked out by Kata Kamsky also rated 2714.

He did not participate in 2009, as did not Anand, Kramnik, Topalov, Nakamura and several others.

He did not participate in 2011.

It is easy to look up, but the fact that you faked it by saying "if I am not mistaken ...." pretending to know when in fact you did not, shows what kind of a person you really are - i.e. lacking in basic honesty and integrity. You are nothing short of contemptible.

May-21-13  cendorila: It was not in the World Cup, if I am not mistaken, it was some kind of an open tournament. Look it up.
May-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: I think <tolengoof> is referring to Carlsen's olympiad loss to Sanan Sjugirov.

That kid has defeated Svidler and even Wesley So.

May-21-13  pbercker: If <tolengoof> was not talking about the world cup I stand corrected, even though that is the current context of conversation, but no matter.

Sanan Sjugirov is a 2600 player, and Carlsen was rated 2820+ .... that is not "way below his rating" as I understand the term.

But the judgment remains the same ... <cendorila> = <tolengoof> = <...> has time and again proved to be completely lacking in the most common element of human decency and honesty. I demure from saying worse things because I suspect that there's simply something pathologically wrong with him, meaning that to the extent that it is a mental affliction it is somewhat beyond his control and he should seek professional help.

May-21-13  cendorila: Why are you attacking me personally when the heart of the conversation is this? Such is a display of the common element of human decency.

<Absentee: The "risk" of being knocked out by an opponent rated 500 points less is next to zero.>

Not all participants have 500 points differential.

I was just illustrating that rating points is not a guaranteed win. Reason I agreed with setnoescapeon statement. <Most of the top players have been unwilling to risk being knocked out by lesser GMs.>

That's an honest assessment unless of course you believe otherwise which you haven't challenged.

<I demure from saying worse things because I suspect that there's simply something pathologically wrong with him, meaning that to the extent that it is a mental affliction it is somewhat beyond his control and he should seek professional help.>

I disagree, the reason should be because it is the right thing to do. Ask your psychiatrist, he will tell you the same thing. I think it is you who need professional help.

<Sanan Sjugirov is a 2600 player, and Carlsen was rated 2820+ .... that is not "way below his rating" as I understand the term.>

Ok, that's a minute difference it that makes you happy.

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