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| walker: Here are some opinions from another page:
Oct-04-09 returnoftheking: Mr Short, over at the Carlsen page and some fora I see a presentation of your recent reply to Zarg (see below) and I was surprised by the popular interpretation.
Miss Pogonina wrote of course that Carlsen played very well, but also that his first two opponents (Leko and Topalov) didn't play at their best. She didn't really speculate why, so I doubt you really disagree with her. Looking at the games I found the opinion of chessvibes -that there may be psychological factors involved (Pogonina didn't speculate why)also plausible. Should we conclude from your quote that you think it an unlikely explanation? Thanks for an answer in advance. ( < Oct-03-09 zarg quoting chessvibes: <Carlsen is playing very well, but it must be said that his opponents haven’t shown their best form against him, as if they’re intimidated. Topalov went down pretty much without a chance, and today Radjabov lost very quickly. Azerbaijan’s number one might have been a bit relieved to see that instead of throwing something new and different on the board, Carlsen simply followed their game from Linares in February this year.I didn't buy it, so I asked Nigel Short (2707), who is #29 on the LIVE list, a direct question. He provided this answer on his player page: <Nigel Short: <zarg> My impression is that Carlsen is playing fantastically well. By the way, people don't usually make mistakes when they are not under pressure - a factor which your WGM may have overlooked.> It appears, that it require a very strong player, in order to judge the quality of Carlsen's play so far in China.> > ) |
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| Oct-05-09 |
| walker: Maybe I am an old fashioned guy, but I would have never ever humiliate a woman in this way. |
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Oct-06-09
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| HeMateMe: Nigel's just grumpy because there is no ChessBase beauty contest this year. |
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| Oct-06-09 |
| Ladolcevita: <HemateMe>
I think you guys are just trying to disturb these guys whose game level you can never achieve,and wish to see them quarrelling with each other.But the truth is so obvious: 1.Nigel just expressed his disagreement on the reason for calsen's winning streak in this tournament;Natalia said its because of the opponents bad performance,but Nigel reminded us that only by calsen's pressure on the board would these gms be likely to make faults.So this is also a fantastic thing.... I cants see how this could be an insult?Way too far.... 2.Nigel is not ugly,he is just looking a bit childish and naughty,but he looks very cheerful,thatis just enough to make one not bad looking at all~~ |
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| Oct-06-09 |
| Agent Orange: If you just specified WGM <Natalia Pogonina>, then Nigel would addressed her as such. But you have a different agenda... You trouble maker, take a walk! |
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Oct-06-09
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| The Chess Express: <walker: Maybe I am an old fashioned guy, but I would have never ever humiliate a woman in this way.> Would you humiliate a man in that way? |
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Oct-06-09
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| parmetd: Natalia while your English is excellent... I thought I should tell you that you keep making an error of using "amn't" which is not a word. You can't contract am and not. Just say "am not." |
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| Oct-06-09 |
| walker: This time not short himself, but some of his fanboys...lol...something is going on here...Do they dislike women in general or just women chess players?
Oct-06-09
<rogge>: I guess not? Pogonina’s summary today:
"Ok, Wang Yue resigned. What can I say? Korchnoi may not be at the tournament right now, but I can almost see him shake his head and say "These young players don't have a clue what chess is about". Inexplicably weak play by Wang Yue, and Carlsen's performance has been far from outstanding..." Hmm.
Oct-06-09 <KKDEREK>: < rogge> She should start choosing better words..Sometimes she sounds so arrogant.. |
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| Oct-06-09 |
| ILikeFruits: Natalie...
you are...
hot... |
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| Oct-07-09 |
| Karnatakiaditya: words can be twisted to mean anything out of context ... |
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| Oct-07-09 |
| tanuri: Its a emergent country thing.
Here in Brazil we tend to be very xenofobic in the sports we are good at. Most people here dont like C.Ronaldo just because he is good and isnt brazilian. Its pretty obvious that you can sense some bitterness when Pogonina is talking about carlsen. And the Korchnoi paraphrasing was rude. Well, what can you do, Carlsen is very talented, and is not russian. And if he was born in the older days he would also be #1, gotta live with that/. |
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| Oct-07-09 |
| returnoftheking: If telling the truth is rude it should be no problem. GM Wang missing Ne7 with plenty of time is inexplicable and when you miss winning moves your game is indeed not outstanding, even if people keep screaming C. plays at another level and so on. It is indeed a emergent country issue; look and see who are complaining; it's 99 percent the Norwegian Carlsen cult spearheaded by it's well known high priest.
Just like other fanatics they are touchy people without humor or ability to see things in perspective. It will be interesting to see if they can add a WGM to their list of people driven away of CG. Hurray for WGM Pogonina and her honest and blunt assessment, to balance things out. |
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| Oct-07-09 |
| walker: More and more anti-Natalia posts on Nigel Short's page. Obviously they are enjoying over there Pogonina bashing. So sad! |
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Oct-07-09
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| keypusher: <walker> Is this the sort of Pogonina bashing on the Short page you have in mind? <Paint My Dragon: If Natalia Pogonina tells me Capablanca has been found alive on the Moon, then I'd just agree with her I'm afraid.No sense in starting the relationship with an argument ;-)> http://www.chessbase.com/news/2008/...;
Or this?
<slomarko: kudos to Pogonina for remaining objective and not jumping on the Carlsen bandwagon.> So why did you write your post? Because you're Armenian and you hate Nigel Short for writing disrespectfully of Tigran Petrosian. Looks like there are "emergent nation" issues everywhere. |
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| Oct-07-09 |
| tanuri: Again its not anti-Natalia
I didn;t even know she existed before october this year.. The Korchnoi paraphrase and saying that Kramnik or Topalov would never blunder like that is kind of rude If she says something like that, she has to be prepared to hear counterfire |
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| Oct-07-09 |
| walker: I think the main problem is that she is a smart and a beautiful woman. And at the page of that person with a severe inferiority complex several others like him with the same problem attacked Ms. Pogonina. It happens often when a nice looking woman shows brains in front of a bunch of ugly and unwanted men. |
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Oct-07-09
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| Boomie: <walker: <Nigel Short>: <zarg> <My impression is that Carlsen is playing fantastically well. By the way, people don't usually make mistakes when they are not under pressure - a factor which your WGM may have overlooked.>
Great sense of humour...if one likes to be called an idiot with the euphemism "overlooked".> You are making too much out of this comment. Are you trying to start a fight or something? What's the point of posting this? Nigel chats with us frequently. You can cherry pick stqatements to try to achieve some effect. But what for? Lighten up. |
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| Oct-07-09 |
| Smileshire: <walker> bullox. i'm as attractive and desirable as the next man. Ok, she has kept her dignity and that is what is most appealing. But, come on, her face on this profile is not 'Beautiful'. It is attractive in a way but not 'beautiful'. Ok hr face appeals to some guys but it's not what draws me onto her. Yep her chess brains is more appealing but shame her bod doesn't look like it will ever go with it. But she don't care as she is already happily married. In her darkest hour she will already know her frailties. I don't kneed to be a gork and tell her that. She already knows and so does her hubby. |
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| Oct-09-09 |
| tommy boy: I fell in love... |
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Oct-09-09
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| SirChrislov: Sir<tommy boy>,
There's no such thing as love, it's called obsession. be careful, it can blind you. |
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| Oct-10-09 |
| KKDEREK: <whatthefat> Thanks for clarifying things..But I knew that already..He used to be <acirce>'s poodle. Now he wise up and was sold (since <acirce> disappeared) to Ray Keene. <walker: Maybe I am an old fashioned guy, but I would have never ever humiliate a woman in this way.> You are an old fashion troll. |
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Oct-10-09
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| HeMateMe: Natalie mentioned that "someone has to ask Magnus if he's married...", while analysing the chess games. Do you think she has a crush on the young dynamo? |
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Oct-10-09
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| paulalbert: I doubt it since she married the tall, dark, handsome Peter Zhdanov in June. See Natalya's site for some nice wedding pictures. Paul Albert |
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Nov-03-09
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| HeMateMe: Hi Natalie, do you have a favorite for the Tal Memorial? What about the blitz portion. I see Kosteniuk is entered, not sure if there are any other women. Are there any women who specialize in blitz, who are especially strong in speed chess? |
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Nov-20-09
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| kingscrusher: I have video annotated Natalias win against a Womens World Champion - Antoinette Stefanova: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V59X... |
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