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Gioachino Greco
Greco 
 
Number of games in database: 79
Years covered: 1590 to 1625

Overall record: +79 -0 =0 (100.0%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 King's Gambit Accepted (19) 
    C33 C34 C37 C38 C39
 Giuoco Piano (12) 
    C53 C54
 Bishop's Opening (6) 
    C23
 King's Pawn Game (5) 
    C40
 Philidor's Defense (4) 
    C41
With the Black pieces:
 King's Pawn Game (5) 
    C40
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Greco vs NN, 1619 1-0
   NN vs Greco, 1625 0-1
   NN vs Greco, 1620 0-1
   Greco vs NN, 1620 1-0
   Greco vs NN, 1620 1-0
   Greco vs NN, 1620 1-0
   Greco vs NN, 1620 1-0
   Greco vs NN, 1620 1-0
   Greco vs NN, 1620 1-0
   Greco vs NN, 1620 1-0

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GIOACHINO GRECO
(born 1600, died 1634, 34 years old) Italy

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Gioachino Greco, also known as Il Calabrese, was born around 1600 in Celico, Italy near Cosenza in Calabria. In 1619, Greco started keeping a notebook of tactics and games, and he took up the custom of giving copies of his manuscripts to his wealthy patrons. In 1621 Greco took off to test himself against the rest of Europe, visiting Paris and later, London. He spent the last years of his life at King Philipp IV's court and died in the West Indies, seemingly from a disease that he contracted there around 1634. He bequeathed his earnings from chess to the Jesuits.

He published his analysis of the contemporary chess openings (Giuoco Piano, Bishop Opening, King's Gambit, etc.) in the form of short games around 1625. In 1656, shortly after his death, the manuscripts were published by Francis Beale in London. These games are regarded as classics of early chess literature and are sometimes still taught to beginners.(1)

1) Wikipedia article: Gioachino Greco
2) Wikipedia article: Francis Beale (writer)

Last updated: 2017-04-19 04:45:15

 page 1 of 4; games 1-25 of 79  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Greco vs NN 1-0111590RomeC40 King's Knight Opening
2. NN vs Greco 0-1161590RomeC40 King's Knight Opening
3. Greco vs NN 1-081619RomeB00 Uncommon King's Pawn Opening
4. Greco vs NN 1-0201620Miscellaneous GameC54 Giuoco Piano
5. Greco vs NN 1-071620Miscellaneous GameC53 Giuoco Piano
6. Greco vs NN 1-071620Miscellaneous GameC40 King's Knight Opening
7. Greco vs NN 1-0151620Miscellaneous GameC23 Bishop's Opening
8. NN vs Greco 0-1211620Miscellaneous GameC40 King's Knight Opening
9. Greco vs NN 1-0231620Italy?C37 King's Gambit Accepted
10. Greco vs NN 1-0141620Miscellaneous GameC53 Giuoco Piano
11. Greco vs NN 1-0181620Miscellaneous GameC02 French, Advance
12. NN vs Greco 0-1181620Miscellaneous GameC37 King's Gambit Accepted
13. NN vs Greco 0-1121620RomeC40 King's Knight Opening
14. Greco vs NN 1-091620UnknownC33 King's Gambit Accepted
15. Greco vs NN 1-0151620Miscellaneous GameC42 Petrov Defense
16. NN vs Greco 0-191620Miscellaneous GameC26 Vienna
17. Greco vs NN 1-0191620Miscellaneous GameC33 King's Gambit Accepted
18. Greco vs NN 1-0171620Miscellaneous GameC54 Giuoco Piano
19. NN vs Greco 0-181620Miscellaneous GameC23 Bishop's Opening
20. Greco vs NN 1-0141620Miscellaneous GameC54 Giuoco Piano
21. Greco vs NN 1-0171620Miscellaneous GameC57 Two Knights
22. Greco vs NN 1-0231620Miscellaneous GameC23 Bishop's Opening
23. Greco vs NN 1-0111620Miscellaneous GameC28 Vienna Game
24. Greco vs NN 1-0181620Miscellaneous GameC54 Giuoco Piano
25. Greco vs NN 1-0201620Miscellaneous GameC53 Giuoco Piano
 page 1 of 4; games 1-25 of 79  PGN Download
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Aug-18-14  Ke2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGX...
Jan-09-15  Avun Jahei: When I play the Giuco Piano (rarely) I usually play the moves of Greco's game Nr 45 (with White!), for it was the first game I studied in my life when I was a child. At least one time the resulting game was allmost exactly like the historical one

So I guess - though those games are certainely composed - he too did actually play most of them. Maybe more than once. Because they are, for the most part, just illustrations of common opening traps.

Jan-09-15  Avun Jahei: Giuoco Piano of course.
Jan-26-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <perfidious: NN certainly wasn't displeased to see him pass on, I'm sure. Had the two never met, there would be a mere 480 losses against NN's ledger.>

As you can see from the game list, Greco was so much NN's bÍte noire that he beat NN twice 10 years before he (Greco) was born!

Jan-26-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <FSR> Superior talent will out!
Jan-22-16  Solomon2003: wow 100% incredible result
Jan-22-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <Solomon2003: wow 100% incredible result...>

Dear <Solomon2003>, welcome to chessgames.com. I really think you'll enjoy it here. Because it is a chess site, nearly everyone is a bit clever so it is usually a civilised place.

I have read your posts and I think you're going to be a valuable contributor here. Just find a game you like, then comment on it!

Feb-04-16  Solomon2003: thanks offramp
May-06-16  Christoforus Polacco: In my opinion Greco had great chess talent as Anderssen, Morphy and Tal. If it were the ''time machine'' and it was the possiblitity for Greco to work with Kasparov as Gioachino's teacher at the age of 20 - Greco would be very strong grandmaster of modern time. Like Ivanchuk for example.
May-25-16  Wulebgr: Someone should compile all of Greco's games and fragments from his MSS. This selection of 79 is paltry. He has close to 200 in his MSS.
Jan-29-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: Vintage early-period <offramp>:

<<offramp>: If Greco was given a few days to catch up on theory he would slaughter Kasparov, Kramnik et al! ;-)>

Gioachino Greco (kibitz #25)

The irony remains, even if the smileys have disappeared.

Jan-29-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: Botterill, p15 in his <Open Gambits> book writes:

<The analytical biography of the gambit is a sad story, with no hope of a happy ending for the gambiteer. In a way that is in keeping with the fate of Gioachino Greco (c. 1600-c.1635). There is a tale that, having won some 5,000 crowns by overcoming France's leading players in 1621, he was robbed of all his prize money by outlaws while visiting England in the following year. During his lifetime he peddled manuscripts on chess openings to wealthy patrons. When these were collected and published after his death they became enormously influential for more than a century. Yet in the long run his pioneering analyses were received with little gratitude, since masters who came after him - like Stamma and Philidor - were more eager to stress their own superiority than to accord credit that was due.>

.

Jan-29-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Joshka: Well who did Greco learn the game from? Every game is NN. Much too strange.
Jan-30-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: < zanzibar: Vintage early-period <offramp>: <<offramp>: If Greco was given a few days to catch up on theory he would slaughter Kasparov, Kramnik et al! ;-)>

Gioachino Greco (kibitz #25)

The irony remains, even if the smileys have disappeared.>

I did a slightly funnier version of the same thing at Mephisto (Computer) (kibitz #15).

Apr-30-17  sorrowstealer: Even Morphy played games to almost every infamous people (just you know some of their name and can put it)and here Greco was from 17th century
May-04-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Joshka: <dumbgai> Agree, this whole thing about GRECO is like most of our MSM "fake news" He's got games in 1590 and born around 1600..LOL So he learned chess from?? He NEVER lost a game??....these are all arranged, faked, ect.
May-04-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Petrosianic: <Joshka>: <Agree, this whole thing about GRECO is like most of our MSM "fake news" He's got games in 1590 and born around 1600..<LOL So he learned chess from?? He NEVER lost a game??....these are all arranged, faked, ect.>

That's an insanely stupid argument. "None of his losses have been preserved, therefore he never lost a game at all, therefore none of his wins are real.

You might as well argue that 2+2=Purple.", therefore Purple is a small golfing umbrella.

May-04-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: Gawdam, has the fake news craze migrated here, too? Enough already--take that horsebleep to the Rogovian mosh pit.
May-04-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Petrosianic: You forgot to mention the fact that he was such a good player even though he only played 79 games in his whole life. If we're going to be silly, at least take it to the logical conclusion.
May-05-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Joshka: Two games from 1590, then all the rest 30 years later!!!LOL....man you folks here are so gullible!!!
May-05-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Petrosianic: One sure thing about Joshka, when he makes a mistake, he always doubles down on it rather than being big enough to admit and correct it. (In this case, the mistake being that the database contains 100% of a player's games). It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't make so MANY.
May-24-17  Sally Simpson: It must have been mentioned before but recently I've been reading how poor Greco's opponent were.

These games are from the book 'The Chess Games of Greco' by Hoffmann which is misleading as Hoffman himself states these games were made up.

From the preface of Hoffmann's book.

"Of his contests over the board, unhappily, no records remain; but he left to succeeding generations a legacy in the shape of a collection of imaginary games...."

Nowhere in the book does Greco give his name or any other name. It is always 'White' and 'Black.'

He analysed the opening and closed with usually a sparkling finish for effect and was showing us what wonderful things could be done with the chess pieces.

We actually owe him a great deal. His book printed round about 1620 helped keep chess alive and fired the imagination and inspiration of all who read it for a few 100 years.

Jun-30-17  Christoforus Polacco: My opinion is - almost every Greco's brilliancy can be compilation of a few similar games played before against his not too strong oponents who were defeated by phenomenal Calabrese at real games. For example ten years ago my friend made such typical error like NN : 1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 g5 4.Bc4 f6 ??? 5.N:g5 and black's position is lost. The same mistakes are cloned by centuries :)
Jun-30-17  Christoforus Polacco: ANNEX. But one real game (or 'compiled' game) can be a source of a few another compositions. For example the real is my game above and black's real answer was : 5.... fg and next white's 6.Qh5+ with fast mate in a few moves. In such situation Greco usual analysed another sensible possibilities : 5....Nh6 6.Qh5+ Ke7 7.Nf7 Qe8 8.Qc5+ d6 9.Q:c7 etc. That analysis could emerge sooner or later at real Greco's game or ... never :) But I suppose Greco played a lot and also had a lot of occasions to test his theory in practice. I think that is the secret of Greco's method and his games agaist NN. We can say - NN is Greco's 'collective opponent' from quite veritable contests.
Jul-09-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <Joshka> you seem to be the only person on this site who <always> gets this wrong: <...these are all arranged, faked, ect.>

If you mean ect to be "et cetera" then the abbreviation is etc.

If you are referring to electro-convulsive therapy then you have been right all along and I apologise.

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