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|Feb-14-08|| ||Open Defence: <At about the time that he won the national championship his mother died, a loss he felt deeply, 'the only person who ever cared for me'> that indeed is tragic... maybe he had to open up and give a little to receive.. how lucky we are though|
|Feb-14-08|| ||pawnofdoom: Born on Valentine's Day!|
|Feb-14-08|| ||Sneaky: Born on Valentine's Day? What a coincidence! ;-)|
|Feb-14-08|| ||MichAdams: If born on May 1st, he'd really have been in trouble.|
|Feb-15-08|| ||Calli: De Vere's shining moment was a thrashing of Steinitz at the odds of a pawn and two, 7W-3L-2D. CG just put these games in the DB, so enjoy:|
|Feb-15-08|| ||Open Defence: <Calli> the link states|
<Overall record: Wilhelm Steinitz beat Cecil Valentine De Vere 11 to 8, with 2 draws.*>
|Feb-15-08|| ||Calli: Yes, that is the correct overall record. De Vere won the odds match 7-3-2.|
|Feb-15-08|| ||Open Defence: Oh sorry I thought that the statement reflected the Odds Match|
|Feb-15-08|| ||Calli: Hmm, well I can do it a different way
|Aug-16-09|| ||YoungEd: Does anyone know why he used the pseudonym he did? What's wrong with Valentine Brown? (Yes, I know, normally Valentine red, but seriously).|
|Feb-14-10|| ||Doc Valentine: Happy Birthday and Happy Valentine's Day, too!|
|Feb-14-11|| ||Penguincw: This person only lived up to age 29.|
|Feb-14-12|| ||brankat: Born on Valentine's Day :-) |
A very talented young chess player.
From the Bio: <..becoming the first official British Chess Champion. He remained the youngest titleholder for over a century (until Nigel Short)..>
|Feb-14-12|| ||Penguincw: On second of thought, he might be a another candidate. He was POTD last year, I believe.|
|Feb-14-15|| ||TheTamale: And a fine looking fellow our POTD was, indeed! A perfect Valentine's Day representative for the game.|
|Feb-09-16|| ||TheFocus: Rest in peace, Cecil De Vere.|
|Feb-14-17|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Cecil De Vere.|
|Feb-14-17|| ||Nosnibor: In the introduction it states that De Vere lost a match to Zukertort in 1874 and two games are given both being wins by the latter. This was not a match but an Handicap tournament and De Vere lost by 2-1. The game not in the db was a brilliant win by De Vere.|
|Feb-14-17|| ||Sularus: so dapper. RIP|
|Feb-14-17|| ||Sularus: quite a scalp collection|
|Jan-18-18|| ||MissScarlett: Anyone have access to the Hindle/Jones book, <The English Morphy?: The Life and Games of Cecil De Vere, First British Chess Champion>?|
I'm interested in how strong the evidence is for the claim that, per Wikipedia, Cecil was likely <the illegitimate son of William Cecil De Vere, a naval officer and son of the second Baronet of Curragh>.
|Jan-18-18|| ||MissScarlett: Freeman's Journal, July 15th 1852, p.4:
<July 8, at Burnham, William Cecil de Vere, Esq. of the Royal Navy, fourth son of the late Sir Aubrey de Vere. Bart., of Curragh Chase, county Limerick, to Sophia, youngest daughter of J. Allen, Esq, of Burnham.>
Dublin Evening Mail, February 16th 1869, p.3:
<Captain William Cecil de Vere, R N, died at the Pleasaunce, Torquay, on Feb 2, aged 45.>
This would mean William was born c.1823, making him 22-23 when Cecil was born, and Cecil almost 23 when William died. And both passed away in Torquay.
|Jan-18-18|| ||john barleycorn: <MissScarlett: Freeman's Journal, ...>|
Any relation to the Freeman here?
|Jan-21-18|| ||MissScarlett: William Cecil De Vere:
1843 - Promoted to Mate (rank later equivalent to Sub-Lieutenant) on board HMS Stromboli: http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?i...
1846 - Promoted from Mate to Lieutenant on board HMS Collingwood: http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?i...
1849 - Appointed as Lieutenant on HMS Racer: http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?i...
For our purposes, of interest is that in the spring of 1845 when he allegedly sired Cecil, he was apparently stationed with the Stromboli in/off Ireland, though he may still have had access to the British mainland. His tour with the Racer apparently ended in March 1852, so it can be no coincidence that he married Sophia in July 1852. Haven't yet found what he did then.
|Jun-04-18|| ||MissScarlett: < In 1865, he won a match against Wilhelm Steinitz (+7 -3 =2), with Steinitz giving odds of pawn and move.>|
Newspaper reports indicate this match extended into 1866, but they're not sufficiently clear to tell which games should be redated.
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