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|Apr-13-04|| ||morphyvsfischer: I wish I could have some caffinated coffee... |
|Dec-15-08|| ||Karpova: Does anyone know something about him? Why did he die so young?|
Since he died in 1884 the game against NN can't have been played in 1906.
|Jan-17-09|| ||Karpova: Here's a feature article with several new games (they'll be submitted) and information.|
Edward Winter's "Daniel Starbuck (1856-1884)": http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...
<The chess column in the "Cincinnati Commercial Gazette" of 2 February 1884, page 3 reported:
‘In the death of Mr Daniel F.M. Starbuck, of this city, the chess world loses one of its most promising players. Mr Starbuck was well known in many leading chess circles of the country. He was but a youth when his genius for the game attracted notice in this city, and as it was developed many predicted that he would become one of the great players of the world. He was the best blindfold player Cincinnati has produced, and his bold style of play and excellent knowledge of the openings made him formidable to every opponent. Mr Starbuck’s health had been declining for several months, and, hoping to benefit it, he went to Denver to engage in business. His bronchial trouble, however, became worse in Colorado, and he returned a few weeks ago to Cincinnati, his native city, to pass to rest at the early age of 27. Mr Starbuck possessed many generous traits of character, and some remarkable gifts of mind. His father was the late Mr Calvin W. Starbuck, proprietor of the Cincinnati Times. To the mother who survives him he was ever an affectionate son. The funeral occurred at the family residence in this city last Wednesday.’>
His mother's name was Nancy.
From C.N. 2650
|Nov-02-09|| ||alexmagnus: Ehrm... Died of bronchitis? Gee, never thought bronchitis can be deadly at that young age (I know some 100-year-olds dying for this reason but that's the first time I see a 27-year-old not surviving "bronchial troubles").|
And yeah, that were times when not having come out of your city you already may count as a candidate for a future best player in the world - at that at 27!
|Nov-02-09|| ||Tabanus: At that time, "bronchitis" often meant tuberculosis.|
|Jun-06-11|| ||Graham1973: I've found a good source for Judd/Starbuck games over at the Jack O'Keefe Project. Quite a few seem to have appeared in the St. Louis (Not San Luis!) Globe-Democrat.|
|Jun-06-11|| ||Graham1973: Trying to convert a short game I found at the Jack O'Keefe Project. It was located in the St. Louis Globe-Democrat of July 10, 1881. White was D.F.M Starbuck, Black was NN in the guise of Mr T!|
The software I am trying to use throws up an illegal move error at Black's 6th move, though I have reproduced the notation exactly as it appears.
|Jun-08-11|| ||Tomlinsky: It's probably 6... Kt-KB3 but even so it all goes pear shape a few moves later anyway. Move 9 should be QKt-Q2, however 11.Q-Kt5 is impossible as the bishop moved there on move 9. Allowing for the queen exchange a few moves later I assumed the Queen moved to Kt4 (11.QKt4) resulting in...|
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Bg4 4. dxe5 Bxf3 5. Qxf3 dxe5 6. Bc4 Nf6 7. Qg3 Qe7 8.Nc3 b6 9. Bg5 Nbd7 10. Nd5 Nc5 11. Qg4 Qd7 12. Bxf6 Qxg4 *
However, there now is no bishop to recapture the Queen.
|Jun-08-11|| ||TheAlchemist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENGU...|
|Jun-08-11|| ||Pawn and Two: <Graham1973 & Tomlinsky> Try 6...Nf6 7.Qb3 as in the game Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard, 1858|
Black varied from the Morphy game with 8...b6, and his next move is 9...Nbd7.
|Jun-08-11|| ||Tomlinsky: <Pawn and Two> Yes. I'd surmised 6...Nf6 but then brain farted the very next move. Which isn't untypical. Black's ninth move must be 9...QKt-Q2. Here's the score in that case..|
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Bg4 4. dxe5 Bxf3 5. Qxf3 dxe56. Bc4 0 Nf6 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. Nc3 b6 9. Bg5 Nbd7 10. Nd5 Nc5 11. Qb5+ Qd7 12.Bxf6 Qxb5 13. Bxb5+ c6 14. Bxc6+ Nd7 15. Nc7# 1-0
|Jun-09-11|| ||Graham1973: <Tomlinsky> A big thanks for sorting that out. The link I posted on the 6th seems to have quite a few games by Starbuck. Currently working on another of Starbuck V Judd game. |
I hope you don't mind my taking your work and converting it into a pgn file for the database?
|Jun-09-11|| ||Graham1973: This is that other game I am working from, another of the Judd-Starbuck games from 1881. The software I am using stops converting at Whites 20th move.|
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5
4. b4 Bb6 5. a4 a6 6. c3 Nf6
7. O-O d6 8. a5 Ba7 9. b5 axb5
10. Bxb5 O-O 11. d4 exd4 12. cxd4 Nxe4
13. Qc2 Bf5 14. Bxc6 bxc6 15. Qxc6 Qf6 16. Be3 g5 17. Nc3 Nxc3 18. Qxc3 g4 19. Nd2 c5 20. Nb3..
The rest of the game from blacks move in descriptive notation is:
20 KR-QB (Or K-RQB)
|Jun-09-11|| ||Open Defence: this guy sure woke up and smelled the coffee|
|Jun-09-11|| ||Tomlinsky: I'm reasonably confident that the following is what was played but transcribing was more like a retrograde analysis puzzle than anything else. Most moves could only be worked out by looking at what happened later in the game.|
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bb6 5. a4 a6 6. c3 Nf6 7. O-O d6 8. a5 Ba7 9. b5 axb5 10. Bxb5 O-O 11. d4 exd4 12. cxd4 Nxe4 13. Qc2 Bf5 14. Bxc6 bxc6 15. Qxc6 Qf6 16. Be3 g5 17. Nc3 Nxc3 18. Qxc3 g4 19. Nd2 c5 20. Nb3 Rfc8 21. Qd2 c4 22. Nc1 c3 23. Qd1 Rc4 24. Ne2 Re8 25. Ra3 c2 26. Qd2 d5 27. Rc3 Rec8 28. Rxc4 dxc4 29. f3 g3 30. hxg3 Bd3 31. Kf2 Re8 32. Re1 Bxe2 33. Rxe2 Rxe3 *
|Jun-11-11|| ||Graham1973: <Open Defence>, <Tomlinsky>. Looks like the new games are up.|
|Jun-11-11|| ||Graham1973: Addendum to the previous kibbitz. It looks like the St Louis Globe-Democrat covered a series of games between Judd & Starbuck in 1881. The last game in the series is from the December 11th 1881 issue, with the first one appearing in the July 3rd 1881 issue. Could bear further investigation.|
|Jun-11-11|| ||Graham1973: The four Judd & Starbuck games in the database are as follows (Dates are those that the games were published).|
04 September 1881 (23 moves)
18 September 1881 (56 moves)
22 January 1882 (59 moves)
The 44 move game appeared in the Cincinnati Commercial on an unknown date, I have not yet located the equivalent in the St Louis paper
|Jun-12-11|| ||jnpope: There is another Starbuck game in the New York Daily Graphic for 1885.10.04. I noticed it the other day while adding those columns to the Chess Archaeology website.|
|Jun-12-11|| ||Graham1973: <jnpope> Thanks for the heads up. From a quick look it does not seem to match any of the ones currently archived.|
Pity whoever wrote the article in 1885 didn't give the date the game was played.
Something else I'm interested in is a series of 'living chess' games in the late 1870's - early 1880's between MacKenzie and Delmar...
|Jun-12-11|| ||Graham1973: <Tomlinsky> Thanks for your work on the Starbuck-Judd game. I've submitted it to the database.|
|Jul-06-11|| ||jnpope: Two more Starbuck games can be found in the Nashville Daily American 1884.03.24 and 1884.03.31.|
|Jul-08-11|| ||Graham1973: <jnpope> Thanks!|
|Jul-08-11|| ||Graham1973: I've just checked the two games and they don't appear to be in the database. Good find. Transcription is going to be tricky though due to the poor scanner used.|
|Jul-09-11|| ||jnpope: Considering these are scans of photocopies of photographs, the quality is surprisingly good.|
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