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|Apr-25-10|| ||Albertan: Wikipedia has a page concerning Lisa Lane which you can access at:|
Joshka not many, two years according to:
In 1966, Lisa Lane shared the U.S. Women's Chess Champion title with Gisela Kahn Gresser. (source:http://www.all-science-fair-project...)
Lisa Lane made it on the cover of Sports Illustrated, I don't think Kasparov ever did, did he? See:
Sadly Bobby Fischer used Lisa Lane to put down women:see:http://www.bobby-fischer.net/Bobby_...
"Lisa Lane has said-and lots of other people agree-that you're (Bobby Fischer) probably the greatest chess player alive."
"That statement is accurate, but Lisa Lane really wouldn't be in a position to know. They're all weak, all women. They're stupid compared to men. They shouldn't play chess, you know. They're like beginners. They lose every single game against a man. There isn't a woman player in the world I can't give knight-odds to and still beat."
Here is a link to a photo of
Lisa Lane playing in a tournament at the Marshall Chess Club in 1962. She was US Women's champion at the time.
Here is a link to an August, 7th, 1961 Sports Illustrated article about Lisa Lane:
I hate anyone who beats me." -- LISA LANE
Lisa Lane is mentioned in this article:
Here is a link to a newspaper article about her:The Milwaukee Sentinel - Mar 20, 1960
batgirl:Lisa Lane learned to play at 19 (1957) and became the US women's champion at 21 (1959). (source: http://www.chess.com/article/view/t...)
|Apr-25-10|| ||BobCrisp: <"That statement is accurate, but Lisa Lane really wouldn't be in a position to know. They're all weak, all women. They're stupid compared to men. They shouldn't play chess, you know. They're like beginners. They lose every single game against a man. There isn't a woman player in the world I can't give knight-odds to and still beat.">|
But in the <Sports Illustrated> article you cite, we read: <What chance will Lisa have against such opponents? "I think Lisa can go to Yugoslavia and win the candidates' tournament," said Bobby Fischer, after analyzing Lisa's games, "and then go on to Moscow and win the women's championship of the world.">
Everything in that Harper's interview should be taken with a large pinch of salt.
|Apr-25-10|| ||talisman: happy birthday Lisa.|
|Oct-21-10|| ||tamar: "The First Chess Beauty Queen" http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
Interesting article about Lisa Lane from our own User: SBC
|Oct-28-10|| ||vonKrolock: From that very interesting article by <SBC> a Robert James Fischer quote <"They're all fish. Lisa, you might say, is the best of the American fish.">|
|Dec-15-10|| ||GrahamClayton: Lane withdrew from the Hastings tournament so that she could be with Neil Hickey, a US newspaper journalist.
When approached to comment, Hickey said that he knew Lane only slightly, and declined to make any further comment.|
|Apr-25-11|| ||wordfunph: <Bio: She said she could not concentrate because she was "homesick and in love."> |
<Graham>, Neil Hickey --- he's the man! :)
|Apr-25-12|| ||talisman: happy birthday Lisa!|
|Jun-11-12|| ||Petrosianic: <Caissanist>: <She was probably a rated expert, but she could not have been a master. Diane Savereide was the first American woman to make master, I believe in the early eighties.>|
I'm not positive, but I think both Gisela Gresser and Mona Karff held the master title before Saveride did. Possibly Lisa Lane also.
|Jun-11-12|| ||Petrosianic: I may have been mistaken. I've glanced through several rating lists from the 50's, and haven't seen Gresser over 2200 in any of them. I could have sworn I'd read somewhere that she'd made Master, but I can't find it at the moment. Ditto with Karf.|
|Jun-11-12|| ||Marmot PFL: <Petrosianic> Savereide could be the first to make 2200. USCF started inflating their ratings about that time, to try to halt the membership decline in the post-Fischer era. Lots of bonus points were given out for unusually good (or lucky) tournaments.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||Petrosianic: I didn't know there was a decline after Fischer, though it might have grown slower than they'd hoped.|
But I thought ratings might have been inflated very early on. I'm pretty sure that both Fine and Reshevsky were well over 2700 in the very early 1950's, though I haven't dug that list up yet.
Sonja Graf is another one to check out as a possible early woman master. I don't know if she made it or not. People were very unconcerned about ratings in those days, and they were rarely mentioned outside of a rating list.
Does anyone know for sure that Savereid was the first to hit 2200, or are we guessing? I do know that there was a time when she was the ONLY American woman over 2200. But whether she was also the first, I'm not sure.
|Jun-12-12|| ||Kolyas: Gresser was first woman to become a US master. See Chess Life, March 2001 article. She was also given a WIM title in 1950 by FIDE.|
Lane was never rated as a master, but had a low Expert's rating.
Graf was a German master before moving to the US.
|Jun-12-12|| ||Marmot PFL: <I didn't know there was a decline after Fischer, though it might have grown slower than they'd hoped.>|
There was, but not as large as I thought. By 1992 they had passed the 1974 peak. Evidently this was largely due to an infusion of low cost scholastic memberships, which didn't cover their costs to USCF. How many of these eventually became full-paying adult members I don't know. The number of former Soviet and Eastern European players in the US also increased radidly in the 80s and 90s.
USCF membership Year Members
1940 1,000 (approx)
2010 80,000 (approx)
|Jun-27-12|| ||SBC: |
<"The First Chess Beauty Queen" http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
Interesting article about Lisa Lane from our own User: SBC>
I recently published an article called, The Village Gambit," from Prof. Frank Brady's "Chessworld" magazine. It highlights the chess scene in NYC in 1964. Rossolimo's and Lisa Lane's chess venues are featured in it and anyone interested in that time might really enjoy it:
|Aug-07-12|| ||perfidious: < kramputz: ....Rossolimo also had a studio in the neighborhood. Good old times for chess...>|
My first time in Rossolimo's was to play in a simultaneous against the old master himself at Memorial Day 1975, a few weeks before his accident.
|Aug-07-12|| ||gezafan: It's too bad Lane stopped playing.
The derogatory comment attributed to Fischer reflects badly on Fischer, if he actually said it. One wonders what kind of effect Fischer's comments had on Lane.
Fischer should have encouraged Lane rather than insult her. Perhaps he was jealous of the attention she was getting.
|Aug-07-12|| ||diceman: <gezafan:
Perhaps he was jealous of the attention she was getting.>
Yeah, there were a few rumors:
Fischer Spassky 1972,
was going to be,
Lane Spassky 1972.
|Aug-14-12|| ||SBC: .|
Fischer and Lisa Lane, I was told, actually got along very well. An acquaintance of mine told me he was in the Queen's Pawn when Fischer came in. At the time RJF was trying to set up a record-breaking 400 bd simul planned to take place on Nov. 27 of 1963 in the Grand Ballroom of the Hotel Astor. Kennedy, who was supposed to be in NYC that day received an invitation, but was assassinated on the 22nd and the simul was postponed. Before the simul could take place, the Grand Ballroom was gutted by fire and the simul plans fizzled out and it never took place. My acquainance actually met Fischer who personally signed him up for the simul and left him a sheet of rules, time, etc.
|Aug-16-12|| ||technical draw: <<perfidious> < kramputz: ....Rossolimo also had a studio in the neighborhood. Good old times for chess...>
My first time in Rossolimo's was to play in a simultaneous against the old master himself at Memorial Day 1975, a few weeks before his accident.>|
I was there in 1967. I played someone for a dollar a game. I lost 3 bucks.
|Aug-17-12|| ||technical draw: Wasn't she Superman's girlfriend or something?|
|Aug-17-12|| ||NakoSonorense: Newsflash from the past:
<Apr-26-07 NakoSonorense: Hey, isn't she Superman's girl?>
|Aug-17-12|| ||technical draw: <Nako> Yes, you asked first. Now I see that Superman's girlfriend is Lois Lane. Lisa Lane is Bart's sister.|
|Oct-31-12|| ||perfidious: <SBC> Nice article on the scene in 1964.|
Sad to learn that Chumley's closed down a few years back and (so far) has not reopened. Got to enjoy the atmosphere on several visits to the city in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
|Apr-25-13|| ||brankat: Happy Birthday Miss Lane!|
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