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Photograph courtesy of Susan Polgar.
Wesley So
Number of games in database: 534
Years covered: 2003 to 2014
Last FIDE rating: 2762 (2635 rapid, 2726 blitz)
Overall record: +210 -52 =247 (65.5%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      25 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (57) 
    B90 B42 B67 B33 B21
 Ruy Lopez (32) 
    C67 C89 C69 C78 C65
 French Defense (19) 
    C11 C18 C10 C00 C17
 King's Indian (17) 
    E99 E60 E92 E83 E62
 Sicilian Najdorf (15) 
    B90 B93 B96 B97 B99
 Slav (14) 
    D11 D10 D15 D17 D13
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (76) 
    B33 B30 B32 B40 B31
 Slav (25) 
    D11 D15 D12 D10 D17
 Grunfeld (22) 
    D85 D86 D70 D93 D83
 Nimzo Indian (16) 
    E32 E34 E41 E53 E21
 French Defense (16) 
    C11 C07 C05 C18 C13
 Queen's Indian (15) 
    E15 E12
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   W So vs M Mahjoob, 2007 1-0
   Z Almasi vs W So, 2014 0-1
   W So vs Shirov, 2011 1-0
   W So vs M Leon Hoyos, 2009 1-0
   W So vs Ni Hua, 2008 1-0
   W So vs M Prusikin, 2006 1-0
   W So vs Vallejo-Pons, 2014 1-0
   Ivanchuk vs W So, 2009 0-1
   W So vs Navara, 2011 1-0
   W So vs F El Taher, 2006 1-0

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Corus (Group C) (2009)
   Reykjavik Open (2013)
   Millionaire Chess (2014)
   Universiade (2013)
   Dubai Open (2008)
   9th Edmonton International (2014)
   Tata Steel (Group B) (2011)
   World Junior Championship (2008)
   French Team Championship (2012)
   10th Asian Individual Championships (2011)
   World Cup (2009)
   World Junior Championship (2007)
   Aeroflot Open (2009)
   Olympiad (2008)
   8th Asian Continental Chess Championship (2009)

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   RPaterno1's favorite games ("Ramon's Lab") by RPaterno1
   World Cup 2009 by GM Wesley So by LaFreak III
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(born Oct-09-1993, 21 years old) Philippines (citizen of United States of America)

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Born in Las Pinas to William and Eleanor So, and brought up in Bacoor, Cavite, Wesley So is a Filipino chess prodigy who is the eighth youngest player to attain the Grandmaster (GM) in history, achieving the GM title at the age of 14 years, 1 month and 28 days. This made him the youngest GM in the world at that time.* He was the Philippines’ youngest ever International Master, youngest ever Grandmaster and the youngest ever National Champion.


Wesley So’s father taught him the moves at the age of seven. He started playing rapid tournaments when he was eight and was competing in junior tournaments at age nine. The ferocity of Wesley's play in the latter attracted the attention of Radolfo Tan Cardoso He was awarded the FIDE Master title in 2004 when he was 11 and International Master in 2006 when still 12. In 2013, he moved to live and study in the USA at Susan Polgar's chess academy in the University of Webster in Texas, and in 2014 he officially shifted his chess affiliation to the USA. He is now officially the USA's #2 player, as well as the #2 player in the Americas.


<Age> In 2003, So became the Philippines U10 Champion. He has competed in World Youth Championships in 2003 (19th in the U10 division), 2004 (14th in the U12 division) and 2005 (=1st in the U12 division). In the 2005 event held in Belfort, he finished equal first in his age group alongside Srinath Narayanan, Sanan Sjugirov and Samvel Ter-Sahakyan with Narayanan taking the title on tiebreak. On 9 May 2007, So won the National Junior Championship at the age of 13 years, 7 months, the youngest to do so until FM Paulo Bersamina won the 2010 edition of that event while still 12. So earned his 2nd GM norm in September 2007, shortly before he turned 14, at the World Junior Championship (2007) (his 1st GM norm being in Germany soon after he turned 13 – see below in the classical tournaments section) held in Yerevan, Armenia.

<National> So holds the record for the youngest National Champion of the Philippines, first winning the title in 2009 at the age of 15 years, 6 months. He also won the Philippines Championship in 2010 and 2011 after coming second in 2008 and first in the "Battle of the Grandmasters' event in 2008. Starting from 2009, the "Battle of the Grandmasters", previously a separate event, also became the national championship.

<Continental> In September 2007 while still 13, Wesley played in the Asian Individual Championship (2007) that was held in Cebu and scored a par for rating 6/11, drawing against four GMs and losing to one. He scored a modest 6.5/11 at the 8th Asian Continental Chess Championship (2009) held in Subic Bay but came 2nd by a half point behind Ni Hua in the 9th Asian Continental Championship held in April 2010 to qualify for participation in the 2011 World Cup. He scored 5.5/9, placing =9th in the 10th Asian Individual Championships (2011) in Iran. In May 2012, he played in the Asian Continental Chess Championship (2012) scoring 6/9 and placing =4th (8th on tiebreak).

<World> In early 2007, he scored 5.5/9 at the Zonal 3.3, narrowly missing both a GM norm and qualification for the World Chess Cup (2007). After qualifying in early 2009 by coming 2nd behind Darwin Laylo in the 3.3 Zonal held in Ho Chi Minh City, Wesley made a splash at the World Cup (2009) by defeating Gadir Guseinov, Vassily Ivanchuk and Gata Kamsky in the first three rounds before falling to Vladimir Malakhov in the rapid game tiebreaker during the round of 16. He defeated Chinese GM Ding Liren in the first round of the World Cup (2011) but lost the second round in a hard fought rapid-game tiebreaker to then Russian number 1 and world number 5 GM Sergey Karjakin. So placed 2nd at the Asian 3.3 Zonal held in January 2013 and thereby qualified for the World Cup (2013) where he defeated the 2012 Junior World Champion, Ukrainian-Turkish GM Alexander Ipatov in the first round but lost to Russian GM and eventual semi-finalist Evgeny Tomashevsky in the second round.

Classical Tournaments

So’s first foray into the international arena was at the 12th International Open held in Nice in 2005, where he scored 5/7, placing =8th (9th on tiebreak) and adding 35 points to his rating. He finished 2005 at the Singapore International Masters Open, winning the award for the best U12 in the competition and gaining another 37 rating points. In April 2006, he earned his first International Master norm at the powerful 8th Dubai Open (2006) when he scored 5/9. A few weeks later, still 12 years old, he was selected to play in the 2006 Olympiad at Torino (see below). Wesley’s second and third IM norms followed in rapid succession at the 2nd San Marino Open (5.5/9) in June 2006, where he also won the award for the best player under 16, and in August 2006 at the 3rd IGB Dato Arthur Tan Malaysia Open Chess Championship in Kuala Lumpur (6.5/11), where he again won the award for the best player U16. At the age of 12 years, 10 months and 13 days, So became the youngest Filipino to achieve the IM title.

So achieved his first GM norm at the Bavarian International Open in Bad Wiessee, Germany in November 2006. Following an average performance at the 3rd Calvia International Open in October 2006, Wesley narrowly missed another GM norm at the GM Tournament in Manila the following month, but won the powerful Prospero Pichay Cup in December 2006. A few days later, Wesley competed in the 3rd Singapore Masters International Open, placing =10th with a score of 6/9, including wins against GMs Susanto Megaranto and Li Shilong. Following his relative success at the Zonal 3.3 – qualifying for the 2007 World Cup but narrowly missing a GM norm - in January 2007 (see above), Wesley performed on par at the Philippines International Open in Subic Bay in April 2007, then came second at the Selection Tournament for 2nd Asian Indoor Games held in Tagaytay in August 2007. So capped his year by earning his third GM norm, and the title, at the 3rd Prospero Pichay Cup International Open in Parañaque City, Philippines in December 2007, scoring 6/9, including five draws against his five GM opponents. When he earned his title, he became the seventh-youngest GM ever, and the youngest-ever Filipino GM.

The year 2008 began with a modest 4th at the 1st Leg of the ASEAN Circuit Tournament 2008 (GM Section A) in Kalimantan, he won the Mayor Allen Singson Open Chess Tourney in Candon City and then the Dubai Open (2008) in the United Arab Emirates with a score of 7/9 (TPR 2708), besting an international field that included 23 other grandmasters. In April, he won the “Battle of the Grandmasters” with 8.5/11 (including wins against Rogelio Antonio Jr and Buenaventura Bong Villamayor and a draw against Eugenio Torre) and a match against Susanto Megaranto (details immediately below in the matches section). In May, he came =2nd with 6.5/9 in the 1st Subic International Open, half a point behind Jayson Gonzales. In July 2008, he came second with 12.5/17 in the National qualifying tournament for the Dresden Olympiad held in November, represented Philippines in that Olympiad, placed =5th in the 4th Prospero Pichay Jr. Cup International played in Manila in September, and won the gold medal (+4 =3) for the top board playing for his club Tagaytay city in the Asian Club Cup. In 2009 he won Corus (Group C) (2009) with 9.5/13, one point ahead of fellow prodigy Anish Giri, but then had an average result of 5/9 at Aeroflot Open (2009) before scoring a stunning 9/11 in March at the Battle of the GMs held in Dapitan City. An ordinary 4.5/10 at the SPICE Cup (2009) in Lubbock, Texas was followed by his remarkable debut in the World Cup (see above). 2010 saw him securing a reasonably successful result at Corus (B Group) (2010) where he came 4th with 7.5/13 and at Aeroflot Open (2010), scoring =7th in a huge field of GMs and IMs. His success in the 9th Asian Continental (see above) was followed by winning the 3rd Battle of the Grandmasters in Tagaytay City with 7.5/11. His subsequent results during 2010 were average to ordinary by his standards, although he finished with good results in the preliminary rounds of the Asian Teams Championship in November.

The start of 2011 saw him place =4th in the Tata Steel (Group B) (2011) with a creditable 7.5/13, a point shy of the lead, while his subsequent participation in the Aeroflot Open (2011) was cut short after six rounds due to his withdrawal from the event because of exhaustion. Despite that, he achieved excellent results in the blitz event held after the tournament and in the 17th Asian Cities tournament held in Jakarta a few months later (see below in Team Play). In June 2011, he came =1st alongside Giri and Hans Tikkanen at the 19th Sigeman & Co Chess Tournament (2011) in Sweden. His results thereafter, until the 2012 Quebec Open (see below) essentially maintained parity with his rating, including 5/10 at the Airports Authority of India (2011) in New Delhi also in June, 9/13 at the Philippine Championship (although he placed first), 6.5/9 in the Indonesian Open, 2nd at the 26th SEA Games 2011 in Indonesia, his drawn match in Illinois against Meier (see below), and his 6/9 at the Asian Continental Chess Championship (2012) where he just missed qualifying for the 2013 World Cup. He scored outright first at the Quebec Invitational Open 2012 with 7.5/9 (TPR 2789), a half point clear of Cuban GM Lazaro Bruzon. In July 2012, he maintained rating parity by placing =3rd (3rd on tiebreak), behind Dutch GM Ivan Sokolov and US GM Alexander Shabalov in the World Open held in Philadelphia in the USA and by winning the 2012 Toronto International Crown. His 5/10 at the SPICE Cup (2012) was basically par for rating. Several months later, an excellent =1st (2nd behind Pavel Eljanov), with 8/10 at the powerful Reykjavik Open (2013) enabled So's rating to surpass 2700 for the first time. In May 2013, So won the 2013 Calgary International Chess Classic with a round to spare with a final score of 8/9 after winning the preliminary blitz bout with 9/9. In June 2013, So participated in and placed =1st (winning on tiebreak) with 5/6 in the 2013 Las Vegas International Open alongside Alejandro Ramirez-Alvarez; Webster colleague and Mexican #1, Manuel Leon Hoyos; Jaan Ehlvest and Varuzhan Akobian. In July 2013, Wesley So won the gold medal at the Universiade (2013) and in October 2013, he won the 6 round DRR category 18 Unive Crown Group (2013) with a round to spare. In April 2014, he was =1st at the 2014 Bill Wright Saint Louis Open.

So's inaugural participation in a super tournament was at the category 20 Tata Steel (2014). He finished with a solid 6/11 (+3 -2 =6), placing =4th behind Levon Aronian, Anish Giri and Sergey Karjakin respectively, and 6th on tiebreak behind Fabiano Caruana and Leinier Dominguez Perez. His next super tournament participation was a stunning success when he won the category 19 49th Capablanca Memorial (2014) outright with 6.5/10, a clear point ahead of second placed Lazaro Bruzon, notching a 2829 TPR. In June, he secured 2nd place behind Ivanchuk at the Edmonton International with a score of 7.5/9, a roughly par-for-rating outcome. The following month in July 2014, he participated in the category 17 round-robin ITT ACP Golden Classic tournament, in Italy, winning by a clear point with 4.5/6, thereby lifting his standard rating to an all time high, while in October he won the Millionaire Chess (2014), pushing his rating and ranking to another all time high.


At the Japfa Chess Festival 2008 held in Jakarta in April 2008, So played the six-game Japfa Match (2008) against Indonesian GM Megaranto and won by 6-4 (+3 =3). In March 2012 in Skokie, Illinois, USA, he played and drew a four-game match (=4) with German GM Georg Meier.

Team Play

So won a Team Silver Medal and an Individual Gold Medal in the 6th ASEAN Age-Group Chess Championship held in 2004 in Vung Tau in Vietnam. He also won an Individual Gold Medal at the 7th ASEAN Age-Group Chess Championship held in 2005 in Pattaya in Thailand. In August 2007, he won the gold medal for first board for the Philippines at the World Under-16 Olympiad with a phenomenal score of 9.5/10. In 2006, at the age of 12 he became the youngest ever member of the national men's team to participate at the 37th Chess Olympiad (2006), scoring a creditable 3/5 on the reserve board. In March 2007, So won the gold medal playing board 3 after scoring 7.5/9 for Tagaytay – which came second in a field of 18 city teams - in the Asian Cities Team Championship held in Tehran, Iran.** In 2008, he played board 2 for the Philippines at the Dresden Olympiad (2008) and in 2010, board 1 at the Chess Olympiad (2010). In 2009 Wesley played for the Bank of Qingdao team in the Chinese Chess League, scoring 4 points out of the 5 rated games he played. In the 19th Asian Cities Championship held in Jakarta in 2011, Wesley won silver playing top board for his 4th placed (out of 24 city teams) Tagaytay team. So again played board 1 for the Philippines in the 40th Chess Olympiad (2012), scoring 6.5/11 (+2 =9; TPR 2710) and helping the team win bronze in Rating Category B. In December 2013, he played board 3 for Webster University in the PanAm 2013, winning 6/6 games and helping his team to top place to qualify for the College Final Four playoffs. These were held in New York in April 2014, and he helped his team to win the event.

Blitz and Rapid Play

So won individual Gold Medals in Rapid Chess in the 6th and 7th ASEAN Age-Group Chess Championship held in 2004 in Vung Tau, Vietnam and in 2005 in Pattaya, Thailand; other awards he won at these two events were a Team Silver for Rapid Chess in 2004 and an Individual Gold Medal for Blitz in 2005. Although his classical score at Calvia in 2006 was average, he won the award for being the best U16 blitz player in the event held immediately afterwards. Toward the end of 2007 after he gained his GM title, Wesley So won the Christmas Invitational Blitz Tournament from a powerful field of IMs and GMs. In addition to winning the international open at Dubai in 2008, he also took third place at the sidelight blitz tournament of that event. Despite withdrawing from the main tournament at Aeroflot 2011, So competed in the blitz event held as a sidelight, placing 5th, 1.5 points behind the winner Shakhriyar Mamedyarov. In the 2011 SEA Games held in Indonesia, So secured the only gold chess medal for the Philippines, winning 9-0 in the blitz event. In 2011 and 2012, he won the ACC Blitz Championship in Ho Chi Minh City, finishing 1st on tiebreak in 2011 and outright first by half a point in 2012. In July 2012, he scored 9/10 to place =1st and share the prize money with Robert Lee Hess at the Blitz Championship held at the World Open Championship in Philadelphia. Later that month, he defeated Ray Robson 23-9 in's 7th Blitz "Death Match". He contested the 2nd Noel Skelton Open, which took place from 31st August to 1st September in Minnesota, and easily won the event with 5/5. In June 2014, he won the 2014 National Open Blitz held in Las Vegas.

Wesley So is one of the most formidable blitz players on the internet, his best rating on the ICC website clocking in at 3604. His original handle was Wesley16 which he eventually changed to foster-.***


Wesley So’s favorite chess books are Nimzovich’s My System and various books by Mark Izrailovich Dvoretsky. His favorite player is Magnus Carlsen (2009 interview). He is now part of the Webster University chess team, under the SPICE Program run by GM Zsuzsa Polgar.

Rating and Ranking

Wesley So was the youngest player ever to cross the 2600 rating mark, 9 days short of his 15th birthday, until 2013 when Chinese prodigy Wei Yi achieved the mark at the age of 14 years 5 months 23 days. On 1 March 2013, So's rating crossed over to 2701 (the 92nd player to achieve 2700).

As of 1 November 2014, So's FIDE ratings are:

<Classical>: 2762 (#2 in the USA and the Americas; world #10) - this is his highest rating and ranking to date;

<Rapid>: 2642; and

<Blitz>: 2726 (world #29).

Live rating:


Interview in 2009 with William Stewart:; FIDE tournament records: ; Pinoy Chess; ; * World's Youngest Grandmasters: and World's Youngest GM: article by IM Cardoso: **;; and; ***

Wikipedia article: Wesley So

 page 1 of 22; games 1-25 of 534  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. D Swiercz vs W So 1-073 2003 Wch U10B33 Sicilian
2. W So vs V Belous 1-041 2003 Wch U10A07 King's Indian Attack
3. W So vs Z Javakhadze 1-055 2003 Wch U10B10 Caro-Kann
4. Negi vs W So 1-034 2003 Wch U10B33 Sicilian
5. W So vs N Galopoulos  0-153 2003 Wch U10C00 French Defense
6. T Pipan vs W So 0-126 2003 Wch U10B33 Sicilian
7. Ding Liren vs W So 1-023 2004 Wch U12A04 Reti Opening
8. W So vs Caruana 1-027 2004 WYCC - B12B21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
9. Do Duc Minh vs W So 0-120 2004 ASEAN-ch5 U12B33 Sicilian
10. W So vs Md Omar Ak Hafizon Pg  ½-½57 2004 ASEAN-ch5 U12B21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
11. W So vs Minh Doan Vu Hoang 1-035 2004 ASEAN-ch5 U12A07 King's Indian Attack
12. W So vs O Kanmazalp 1-029 2004 Wch U12B21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
13. Mark Ho En Tian vs W So 0-131 2004 ASEAN-ch5 U12B70 Sicilian, Dragon Variation
14. A Rosell vs W So  1-043 2004 Wch U12A80 Dutch
15. M Bui vs W So  0-144 2004 ASEAN-ch5 U12B70 Sicilian, Dragon Variation
16. W So vs Mark Ho En Tian 1-040 2005 ASEAN-ch6 U12B01 Scandinavian
17. Duy Linh Dang vs W So 0-126 2005 ASEAN-ch6 U12E41 Nimzo-Indian
18. W So vs Zhao Xue 1-039 2005 Singapore International Masters OpenB93 Sicilian, Najdorf, 6.f4
19. W So vs Y Chan  1-038 2005 ASEAN-ch6 U12C26 Vienna
20. S Neubronner vs W So 0-125 2005 ASEAN-ch6 U12B33 Sicilian
21. S Sjugirov vs W So 1-033 2005 Belfort YWCC boys under 12B30 Sicilian
22. Firman Syah Farid vs W So 0-142 2005 ASEAN-ch6 U12B33 Sicilian
23. S Narayanan vs W So 0-138 2005 Belfort YWCC boys under 12A07 King's Indian Attack
24. W So vs J S Chung 1-029 2005 ASEAN-ch6 U12B01 Scandinavian
25. Robson vs W So ½-½47 2005 Belfort YWCC boys under 12B33 Sicilian
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  Abdel Irada: While I'm here, though, I also want to add my voice to the chorus.

Wesley So is a grown man. His decisions are for him alone to make, as are the consequences that may follow them.

This can't have been an easy decision to make, and I can't imagine it was made lightly.

So, who knows how this will turn out? No one. No one ever knows how any such decision will turn out. We can only make choices and make the best of them.

Meanwhile, why bother to second-guess? We will also never know* what the other path would have led to, so speculation is as vain as the attempt is disrespectful.

I wish Wesley well, and I am confident that Magnus Carlsen hasn't heard the last of him.


*Although if enough backers get behind the effort, maybe we can construct a parallel universe in which Wesley stayed in school, and then compare the results periodically. :-D

Dec-21-14  bulibug: <Posting on this topic (again!) is certainly not my idea. If you want it stopped, tell <tolengoy> to stop lying about me.>

I am not tolengoy...

I never lied about you lied about yourself and been living it for 30 long years...Dishonesty is your best policy???

Dec-21-14  kardopov: Now, let's4 concentrate on another player who can give Wesley another tough time. He is none other than FC. Their head to head meeting is just about even and their last encounter which is at TATA Steel 2014 was a draw. It was almost an amazing year for FC except that he falters in his last two tournament. But, so to speak about the best performance of the year, it was FC's result tops them all. It was even better than MC defending his crown vs. Anand.
Dec-21-14  kardopov: *result at the singuefield cup
Dec-21-14  bulibug: <Wesley So is a grown man.>

Yes he is...way years ahead of you...can imagine.

<His decisions are for him alone to make, as are the consequences that may follow them.>

Guaranteed the consequences will not be similar to yours. He will not be cleaning you did, that's for sure.

<maybe we can construct a parallel universe in which Wesley stayed in school, and then compare the results periodically.>

We should do a parallel universe of yours in which you weren't kicked out of school and then we can compare where you are now...

Dec-21-14  evlozare: <cro777>- i appreciate all your inputs in this page, thanks. <How to play against Giri according to Kramnik is the subject of my current analysis.>

granted that gmwes has a negative score against giri and kramnik won against giri last time around but there is no need to play against him the kramnik way. there is a wesley way and he knows it. just let him and enjoy.

wish you the best, gmwes, and to all, happy holidays!

Dec-21-14  bulibug: <Whether the requirement you describe existed in 1987 is not clear.>

It was...even prior to that time....

< However, it was never relevant to my case. I was offered A school and advancement as inducement to re-enlist, but chose not to do so. Meanwhile, however, I was working as a journalist, not a "deck ape.">

It's relevant....before you enter OJT, the <command> will make sure you have sufficient time for the rating you are <striking>. If you haven' must sign an really think you can outsmart the Navy??? You wasted enough gov't money when you were kicked out from A school...that was enough....Was your commanding officer your uncle???

You are not a good liar after all. A latrine cleaning deck ape smarter than the, oh my....

Dec-21-14  bulibug: Obligated service doesn't apply to all picked JO and it does require you to go to school before you get designation....therefore, you need 5 years obligated service.
Dec-21-14  bulibug: Let's see how you snake your way out of this one. LOL.
Dec-21-14  SugarDom: Tama na kasi yang i support i, supot you. Mga sipsip.

Alam nating lahat kayo mga supot, mga support pala.

Oo, kami na mga traydor, pero ng minsan sa kabataan ni Wesley at dahil sa frustration niya, nailabas nya ang sama ng loob niya dito bilang tao at hayun napa-nanobrain bullsheet siya.

Pagkatapos ano nangyari? Hayun, inulan si WS ng pang-lalait at insulto. At sino mga ring-leaders ng mga nag-aklas na yun? Sila ring napakaingay ngayon na sila daw ang mga loyalists and always supot.

E sino bang hindi support? Lahat naman tayo. E kaso open forum eto, kaya lahat tayo may karapatang mag-haka haka basta wala lang tayong may aapakan. Hindi ba nating pwedeng pag-usapan ang mga moves ni Wesley at magbigay ng kuro-kuron? E papano kung hahawakan sa leeg si Wesley, e siya na nga nagsabi, "I'm a grown man."

Kaya't bakit niyo ba binabatan ang kibitz ko? Kung naiinggit kayo, gumawa din kayo ng kibitz ninyo. At ako bihira akong komontra sa mga kibitz ninyo.

E pero kayo puro mga kontra - kontrabida. Gusto niyo hagisan ko kayo ng labintador? hehe.

Dec-21-14  bulibug: JO requirements:

<ASVAB Score:


Other Requirements:

Security Clearance, (SECRET) Requirement. 60 month obligation. Must be U.S. citizen.

A security clearance investigation is an inquiry into an individualÂ’s loyalty, character, trustworthiness and reliability to ensure that he or she is eligible for access to national security information. The investigation focuses on an individualÂ’s character and conduct, emphasizing such factors as honesty, trustworthiness, reliability, financial responsibility, criminal activity, emotional stability, and other similar and pertinent areas. All investigations consist of checks of national records and credit checks; some investigations also include interviews with individuals who know the candidate for the clearance as well as the candidate himself/herself.>

Remember how your military bearing evaluation was in A school???

An E-8 carries a megaton of persuasion over a lowly E-2. By the way....E-7 and above are appointed by the congress.

Dec-21-14  bulibug: <SECRET: Applied to information or material the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause serious damage to the national security.>

hmmmmmm.....I wonder how you got in the Radio Central...

Dec-21-14  kardopov: Hehe... hb na si sir sugar.
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  Abdel Irada: The bottom line is this, <tolengoy>/<bulibug>/etc.: Even if all you say about obligated service really were true (and for this I would need evidence), you cannot simply conjure away part of my military career. What you say corresponds, at best, to what "should" have happened, which is quite different from what *did* happen.

I really did work as a journalist in 1986-7. I really did work under two public affairs officers, initials VSE and ECL; under them and JO3 JCE, I really did handle fleet hometown news, produce the ship's newspaper and help run my workspaces: KMRZ Radio and KMRS TV. I really did help JCE put together two cruisebooks, the first of which really did win an award. I really was lucky enough to be one of the few members of the crew who were allowed to go ashore at every visit to Oman, taking pictures that would later be used in the cruisebook. I really did work alongside a JOSN fresh out of A school, IHM. And when I declined to re-enlist, and JCE did the same, IHM really did go UA, leaving the ship without a journalist.

I've said most or all of this before (with most of the names spelled out); I can post links if needed.

The *sole* reason you have been able to prolong this discussion so long is that no one is able to verify any of my record without access to my real name and other information that I am not going to release, for reasons I don't think I need to explain.

So, how do we resolve this?

On the one hand, we have a user who has honestly and consistently (the latter, at least, any premium user can verify with a few judicious searches) posted statements regarding his military career.

On the other, we have a habitual troll and abuser of this website, known for casual lies and refusal to honor his bets, who wants the site to take his word for it that two and a half years of the other user's life just *couldn't* have happened.

I am inclined to offer a New York salute and leave you to stew in your own iniquity, so let's see.


Question to the forum (known trolls excluded):

<Does anyone here either believe <tolengoy>'s trumped-up case or care what he says on the subject?>

If no one does, I see no reason to care, either.

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  Abdel Irada: Note from <tolengoy>'s document: "60 month obligation" does not appear to exclude reserve service.

My enlistment was for a total of eight years, including three years' active duty, two active reserve, and three inactive reserve. Inferably, active reserve commitments sufficed to satisfy the requirements to work as a journalist, because that is exactly what I did.

Also, my ASVAB was quite sufficient, and I did get a secret clearance, toward the end of my active service.

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  rogge: Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists,

You have a couple of them stalking you, but generally the best advice is to ignore them.

For those of us not interested, there's always the ignore function.

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  wordfunph: <SugarDom: Gusto niyo hagisan ko kayo ng labintador? hehe.>

<Supremo Sugar> galpakz ako :) Sa New Year mo na tsongki pakawalan labintador.

Dec-21-14  Jayz: The best way to deal with trolls and/or internet bullies is to ignore them. The more you pay attention & actually reply to them, the longer & out-of-control your "engagement" would be. If you think these trolls & bullies are low-life, don't stoop down their level & engage them otherwise you will become like them a low-life too! If aint true why bother wasting time on them... no matter how "libelous" their remark would be, if you cant positively identify them there would be no case against them. The most you can do is to insult them too!... & the cycle repeats itself over & over. Besides, if you ignore them they will just go away... if they still, just ignore them again they will just fade away if you dont mind them. At least you can get on their nerves by making them obssessed about you. :)
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  bubuli55: Abdel went to go see Caissa.

I have a question, Caissa.

What's in your mind, Abdel?

Well, I see there's a pair of Kings, a pair of Queens, two pairs of the Rook, Knight and Bishop. And even those small pawns are in pairs.

I see. You need a partner. It's going to cost you a rib, Abdel.

You are all knowing, Caissa. Thank you so much!

Abdel, I give you < bulibug >.

Why? Caissa. Why?

You asked for it.

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  cro777: <evlozare: Granted that gmwes has a negative score against giri and kramnik won against giri last time around but there is no need to play against him the kramnik way. there is a wesley way and he knows it.>

That is quite correct. Wesley has a defined chess style, the Wesleyan style.

The purpose of my analysis is not to imitate Kramnik but to detect types of positions Giri is not quite comfortable with (Kramnik has evidently detected that). Even among top players, aspects of the game can be identified in which they are relatively weaker. The key is to apply this understanding during preparation and in practical play.

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  bubuli55: Abdel went back to Caissa.

What do you know?

Caissa, how can I get rid of bulibug? We are always trying to beat each other.

You brought it to yourself. Those white and black Kings and Queens are supposedly trying to do exactly that.

How can I get rid of this? How can a loser ever win?

It's going to cost you an arm and a leg.

Caissa. Holy you.

Abdel. I can not get rid of bulibug. Go and ignore him.


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  cro777: <Jayz: The best way to deal with trolls and/or internet bullies is to ignore them.>

As far as this page is concerned, there is also the possibility to blow the whistle and inform an administrator. Wesley is at an important crossroads of his career. The upcoming Tata Steel tournament will be a good litmus test for him to measure his target achievement. According to posting guidelines all discussion should be kept on the topic of this page or at least indirectly connected with it (humour and literary excursions are welcome).

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  Abdel Irada: <Jayz: At least you can get on their nerves by making them obssessed about you. :)>

You are probably right in suggesting ignoring these two.

In my experience, personalities like this have never grown up, so perhaps it's best to treat them accordingly. When children misbehave, they do so to get a reaction; likewise bullies of all descriptions.

As to making them obsessed, though: I think that has already happened. I am evidently a far more important part of their lives than they are of mine.

One might ask why, but the answer would probably give pause.

Dec-21-14  bulibug: <Note from <tolengoy>'s document: "60 month obligation" does not appear to exclude reserve service.>

One last time....

Lol a million's not my document, it's the Navy's instructions that must be adhered to. It is set in stone....That's the pertains to active duty personnel <only>. Reserve service does not count.

There's just no escape route. NONE.

I'm not tolengoy...I will say it again...for the millionth time. Tolengoy is his own man...he is a legend on his own right....Happy holidays to him and to all except Abdel and rogge.

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  Abdel Irada: From <rogge>'s link:

<Look at how low the Dark Tetrad scores are for everyone except the trolls! Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between trolling and the Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their paper:

"... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]

Trolls truly enjoy making you feel bad. To quote the authors once more (because this is a truly quotable article): "Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!">

Sound like anyone we know?

And with that, happy holidays to all here who celebrate them, and a New York salute to <tolengoy>.

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