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Janowski / Soldatenkov
  
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Years covered: 1909


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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Lasker / Taubenhaus vs Janowski / Soldatenkov ½-½331909Consultation gameC68 Ruy Lopez, Exchange

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May-25-09  Karpova: C.N. 6138 is about Vassily Soldantekov - a Russian diplomat (e. g. in Washington). And it's a very long Chess Note: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...

Winter cites the "New York Times" from 1918.10.20 (page 12):

<‘Basil Soldatenkov, standing six feet in his socks and as hard as nails, his deep-set gray eyes looking you straight through from beneath the ledge of a massive brow crowned with waving light brown hair, is a comparatively young man to have had the experiences and to have shouldered the responsibilities which have been his.

He is, perhaps, five and thirty, and by natural mental inclination a mathematician and electrical engineer. On leaving the university, it was his intention to make scientific research his life work, but circumstances led him, first, to try for and win a commission in the Russian navy, and later to enter the Russian Diplomatic Corps.

Mr Soldatenkov served the Imperial Russian Government in nearly every capital of Europe. There are few men living who have as intimate a personal acquaintance with the great diplomats of the world. He came to this country on a special mission from the Kerensky Government.’>

May-05-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: <Karpova>'s link might be out-of-date.

Might I suggest this one:

http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...

(Karpova original is to C.N. 6138, which may have been expanded upon.)

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May-05-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: There's also just a search on the name on Winter's site - but one can't just give an url for that.

(BTW- I think Winter's site should have at least one mention of zanchess by now! I'm a bit put upon that it doesn't.)

May-05-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: As far as Soldantenkov's chess playing abilities:

<We asked whether Lasker really gave the game in his own column, and C.N. 774 quoted from page 162 of volume A of Walter Penn Shipley’s scrapbooks, which had a cutting, from an unidentified newspaper, undoubtedly written by Lasker:

<A game by consultation was also arranged. M. Soldatencow, a Russian nobleman, attached to the embassy at Rome, wished to consult with Janowsky against myself and Taubenhaus. M. Soldantencow is a player of no mean skill. Here is one of the games in which he won by a pretty combination...>

<<>>>

From Lasker, that's no mean praise, indeed!

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May-06-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: OK, after reading Winter's article I largely agree with his agreement on O'Keefe's inferences - here's the game in question - correctly sourced, and even dated:

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[Event "?"]
[Site "St. Petersburg RUS"]
[Date "1898.01.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Soldatenkov, Vassily"]
[Black "Durnovo, S."]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C21"]
[EventDate "1898.01.19"]
[Source "Shakhmatny Zhurnal (Feb 1898) p49-50 // The Times (London) (21 Feb 1898) p14"]

1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Bc4 cxb2 5.Bxb2 Nf6 6.e5 Bb4+ 7.Nc3 Qe7 8.Ne2 Ne4 9.O-O Nxc3 10.Bxc3 Bxc3 11.Nxc3 O-O 12.Nd5 Qxe5 13.Re1 Qd6 14.Qh5 c6 15.Nc7 g6 16.Qh6 Qxc7 17.Bxf7+ Kxf7 18.Qxh7+ Kf6 19.Qh4+ Kg7 20.Re7+ Rf7 21.Qd4+ Kf8 22.Qh8+ Kxe7 23.Re1+ Kd6 24.Qe5# 1-0

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May-06-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: Playing the game over, despite it's wide-spread use in chess literature - it's marred by some inaccuracies (by both colors) during the king hunt.

Does it really matter?

May-06-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: <[EventDate "1898.01.19"]>

Requires conversion to the Gregorian calendar: V Soldatenkov vs S Durnovo, 1898

May-06-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: <MissS> OK, so as <CG> has it, it actually occured 12 days later - i.e. on 1898.01.31.

The London paper picked it up pretty quickly then.

May-06-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: Oh, <MissS> you should write Winter and tell him to alert his readers to this little wrinkle as well.

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May-07-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: <<MissS> OK, so as <CG> has it, it actually occured 12 days later - i.e. on 1898.01.31.>

Yes, one should be minded that there were perceptive and diligent posters here long before we graced this site.

<Oh, <MissS> you should write Winter and tell him to alert his readers to this little wrinkle as well.>

I am not in communion with said gentleman.

<I think Winter's site should have at least one mention of zanchess by now! I'm a bit put upon that it doesn't.>

We're the competition, stupid. He wouldn't give us the dripping off his nose.

May-07-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: Why isn't there two links for the players here?

Compare the other half:

Lasker / Taubenhaus

Both Lasker and Tabenhaus have links on the combination page.

Here, on the other hand, neither player has a link - though both are here on <CG>:

David Janowski

Vassily Soldatenkov

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May-07-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: <<MissS> We're the competition, stupid. He wouldn't give us the dripping off his nose.>

That's way you're so popular here in the <CG> realm - because of your beguiling charm and whining wheys.

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