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|Aug-16-17|| ||Big Pawn: This forum will remain exclusive and not inclusive. Lowlife untermensch like <travis> and <mark> will not be allowed to post here unless they up their game about 5 levels. |
Repeat: this is an exclusive forum, not an inclusive one. We practice righteous discrimination here and only allow Elite Posters to post here, relax, stretch out intellectually, and offer their best.
This is a refuge from the brainless banter in the remedial forums and no non-elite posters will be allowed to stink this place up.
Right now, we've seen <tga> and <op> as well as <keyser> clean HOUSE on the rogoff page, convincingly winning debate after debate against the usual suspects and the result is the same.
Some of the usual suspects are too dumb to understand they have no argument, and the others are just dishonest about it.
Waste of time.
|Aug-17-17|| ||Big Pawn: Postmodernism and cultural Marxism
Jordan Peterson explains the roots of current identity politics in Marxism rebranded through postmodernism.
If your IQ is above 130, you need to feed your brain by absorbing this lecture.
|Aug-17-17|| ||offramp: Thanks, Big Pawn, for your compliment. And thanks for the poetry. Lots of great verse!|
|Aug-17-17|| ||offramp: Needs work.|
|Aug-18-17|| ||Big Pawn: Richard Spencer gives a press conference about the protest in Charlottesville. |
<optimal play> keeps asking the <tuna> if the left wing fascists held their protest on another day, would there have been violence? In this video, Richard Spencer talks about the *previous* rally they held IN CHARLOTTESVILLE and that there was no violence, because left wing bolshevik radicals didn't show up.
It's early in the presser.
Spencer gives a *very good* press conference and shows himself to be an elevated and articulate spokesman for the alt right.
|Aug-18-17|| ||Big Pawn: Look <op>, if you want to comment here about serious issues then go ahead, but if you are going to repost your BS with <tga> about some irrelevant debate about whatever, then go back to the <rogoff> forum. I don't need it here. |
And if you're butthurt over your casual small talk being deleted, then that's too bad. I'm trying to foster a forum for high level talk without the <tuna> style, 1-ply, non-thinking bs that you all have to deal with on <rogoff>.
If my best posters can't respect that then your posts will be deleted.
Now here you made a somewhat interesting post, but you polluted it with all your personal baggage, so I'm deleting it, and if you can't handle it, then sit down and pee with the girls.
|Aug-18-17|| ||thegoodanarchist: <Big Pawn: Look <op>, if you want to comment here about serious issues then go ahead, but if you are going to repost your BS with <tga> about some irrelevant debate about whatever, then go back to the <rogoff> forum. I don't need it here>|
I didn't see what <OP> posted here that you object to.
But apparently it involved me somehow.
I propose that you just refer him to my forum, if he has something related to me that you don't want posted here.
|Aug-18-17|| ||Big Pawn: I deleted his otherwise interesting post because I want to keep this forum in as tip top shape as possible, and he repeated the personal small talk chit chat between you and him regarding a debate a jfq's forum. Of course, as nizzle said, no one respects that I try to make sure this forum is clear of idle yap and reserved for elevated discussion. |
Idle chat and poop throwing is for rogoff and kc. Frankly, I only want intelligent, critical thinkers posting insightful posts here and nothing else.
This forum is not for the vast majority, let's put it that way.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Big Pawn: Anti-Trump Hate Map
<By Westley Parker
The Anti-Trump Hate Map is an ongoing project of American Renaissance that displays criminal incidents in which Trump supporters were targeted for political reasons. Each marker on the map shows the location of an anti-Trump hate crime. Clicking on a marker opens a brief overview of the case. Red markers signify violent crimes; blue markers, property crimes; purple markers, “other” crimes.
You can find additional information about incidents by visiting this page and selecting the “Excel File” tab. By using the blue “Filter” drop-down menu, you can search and sort incidents by such things as location, type of offense, offender and victim race and sex, or in any combination.
We have included the contact information for the police department with jurisdiction over each incident, so if you have any information about a case, we urge you to contact the authorities.
Please share this map with as many people as possible. If you know of a case we missed, or if you have any comments on the map, please contact Westley Parker at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Click here for more information on these attacks.>
|Aug-19-17|| ||Big Pawn: America’s Second Civil War
Pat Buchanan, American Renaissance, August 18, 2017
Pick a side.
<“They had found a leader, Robert E. Lee — and what a leader! . . . No military leader since Napoleon has aroused such enthusiastic devotion among troops as did Lee when he reviewed them on his horse Traveller.”
So wrote Samuel Eliot Morison in his magisterial “The Oxford History of the American People” in 1965.
First in his class at West Point, hero of the Mexican War, Lee was the man to whom President Lincoln turned to lead his army. But when Virginia seceded, Lee would not lift up his sword against his own people, and chose to defend his home state rather than wage war upon her.
This veneration of Lee, wrote Richard Weaver, “appears in the saying attributed to a Confederate soldier, ‘The rest of us may have . . . descended from monkeys, but it took a God to make Marse Robert.'”
Growing up after World War II, this was accepted history.
Yet, on the militant left today, the name Lee evokes raw hatred and howls of “racist and traitor.” A clamor has arisen to have all statues of him and all Confederate soldiers and statesmen pulled down from their pedestals and put in museums or tossed onto trash piles.
What has changed since 1965?
It is not history. There have been no great new discoveries about Lee.>
<What has changed is America herself. She is not the same country. We have passed through a great social, cultural and moral revolution that has left us irretrievably divided on separate shores.
And the politicians are in panic.
Two years ago, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe called the giant statues of Lee and “Stonewall” Jackson on Richmond’s Monument Avenue “parts of our heritage.” After Charlottesville, New York-born-and-bred McAuliffe, entertaining higher ambitions, went full scalawag, demanding the statues be pulled down as “flashpoints for hatred, division, and violence.”
Who hates the statues, Terry? Who’s going to cause the violence? Answer: The Democratic left whom Terry must now appease.>
<McAuliffe is echoed by Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam, the Democratic candidate in November to succeed McAuliffe. GOP nominee Ed Gillespie wants Monument Avenue left alone.
The election is the place to decide this, but the left will not wait.
In Durham, North Carolina, our Taliban smashed the statue of a Confederate soldier. Near the entrance of Duke University Chapel, a statue of Lee has been defaced, the nose broken off.
Wednesday at dawn, Baltimore carried out a cultural cleansing by taking down statues of Lee and Maryland Chief Justice Roger Taney who wrote the Dred Scott decision and opposed Lincoln’s suspension of the right of habeas corpus.>
|Aug-19-17|| ||Big Pawn: America's Second Civil War
Pat Buchanan (Part 2)
<Like ISIS, which smashed the storied ruins of Palmyra, and the al-Qaida rebels who ravaged the fabled Saharan city of Timbuktu, the new barbarism has come to America. This is going to become a blazing issue, not only between but within the parties.
For there are 10 Confederates in Statuary Hall in the Capitol, among them Lee, Georgia’s Alexander Stephens, vice president to Jefferson Davis, and Davis himself. The Black Caucus wants them gone.
Mount Rushmore-sized carvings of Lee, Jackson and Davis are on Stone Mountain, Georgia. Are they to be blasted off?
Stone Mountain Confederates
There are countless universities, colleges and high schools like Washington & Lee named for Confederate statesmen and soldiers. Across the Potomac from D.C. are Jefferson Davis Highway and Leesburg Pike to Leesburg itself, 25 miles north. Are all highways, streets, towns and counties named for Confederates to be renamed? What about Fort Bragg?
On every Civil War battlefield, there are monuments to the Southern fallen. Gettysburg has hundreds of memorials, statues and markers. But if, as the left insists we accept, the Confederates were traitors trying to tear America apart to preserve an evil system, upon what ground do Democrats stand to resist the radical left’s demands?
What do we do with those battlefields where Confederates were victorious: Bull Run, Fredericksburg, Chancellorsville?
“Where does this all end?” President Trump asked.
It doesn’t. Not until America’s histories and biographies are burned and new texts written to Nazify Lee, Jackson, Davis and all the rest, will a newly indoctrinated generation of Americans accede to this demand to tear down and destroy what their fathers cherished.
And once all the Confederates are gone, one must begin with the explorers, and then the slave owners like Presidents Washington, Jefferson and Madison, who seceded from slave-free Britain. White supremacists all.
Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay of Kentucky and John Calhoun must swiftly follow.
Then there are all those segregationists. From 1865 to 1965, virtually all of the great Southern senators were white supremacists.
In the first half of the 20th century, Woodrow Wilson and FDR carried all 11 states of a rigidly segregationist South all six times they ran, and FDR rewarded Dixie by putting a Klansman on the Supreme Court.
While easy for Republicans to wash their hands of such odious elements as Nazis in Charlottesville, will they take up the defense of the monuments and statues that have defined our history, or capitulate to the icon-smashers?
In this Second American Civil War, whose side are you on?>
|Aug-19-17|| ||Big Pawn: Antifa used an acid attack like ISIS on Baked Alaska, a well known speaker set to give a speech at Charlottesville for the alt Right. More left wing terrorism as it continues since the Trump victory. |
<Baked Alaska, one of the men scheduled to speak in Charlottesville yesterday, was sprayed with what might have been some kind of acid yesterday, and is still in the hospital now, according to a statement from his guy Matthew.
We’ve not heard any further details about that, but I thought it was important to give an update here, since the media is not reporting on it at all. If he’s still in the hospital today, it was definitely something other than mace.
Matthew said that Baked Alaska may be suffering permanent eye damage because he can only see about 3 feet in front of him. Though that doesn’t necessarily mean he will have permanent damage. Hopefully he’s okay.
He got attacked with some unknown chemical agent manually made by Antifa or Black Lives Matter who are now turning into terrorists mimicking Muslim acid attacks. Baked Alaska has also received thousands of death threats.>
|Aug-19-17|| ||diceman: <What has changed is America herself. She is not the same country. We have passed through a great social, cultural and moral revolution that has left us irretrievably divided on separate shores.>|
The Democrat plan.
|Aug-19-17|| ||OhioChessFan: IMHO, the vast majority of problems with America is traced directed to the social upheavals of the 60's. A generation decided they knew better than the combined wisdom of the ages what was best for our culture, and sought to destroy and replace everything-not only those things that needed to be addressed, for there will always be such things-they thought limited their freedoms. Some of those misguided souls are still around, see <saffuna> for example, and even worse, their children and grandchildren are now entering the body politic, the social world, the cultural workshop, armed with those already tested and discarded liberal positions, and thinking they have some bold new ideas about how things should be.|
|Aug-19-17|| ||Big Pawn: <BOSTON – Thousands of counterprotesters crammed Boston Common and marched through city streets Saturday morning in efforts to drown out the planned “free speech” rally that many feared would be attended by white-supremacist groups.|
By 1 p.m., the handful of rally attendees had left the Boston Common pavillion, concluding their event without the planned speeches. A victorious cheer went up among the counterprotesters, as many began to leave. Hundreds of others danced in circles and sang, “Hey hey, ho ho. White supremacy has got to go.”>
Once again, the left has successfully killed free speech. The liberals are very happy that free speech is not allowed to live, unless they agree with it.
Of course, they try to frame their nonsense as white supremacists vs non white supremacists. Isn't it funny how the liberals suddenly pretend that they care about morals?
These are the people who changed the signs on the bathroom doors. These are the people that applaud dressing up a 5 year old boy in drag in their wicked ideas of what is a family unit. These are the people that start a sexual revolution so they can use your daughters like slut trash, and then, when they get knocked up, just kill the baby and throw it in the garbage and call it science!
These disgusting, godless, immoral untermensch suddenly pretend that they believe in a moral standard. All they while they have been acting as the brown shirts of the Democratic Party, a party of modern day Bolsheviks rebranding their beloved Marxism in postmodern thought.
These people are mixed up with the Black Lives Matter terrorist hate group of black supremacists, and they pretend they are taking the moral high ground against White Supremacists.
What we really have here is a communist uprising, the rebranding of Marxism in postmodernism, violent roving mobs of left wing anarchists who HATE America, lashing out against the Deplorables and manifesting their undemocratic ideals by rejecting the Trump election. They are tearing apart the fabric of our democracy by not accepting the election. All of these demonstrations, counter protests and tearing down of statues is how they, according to the Rules for Radicals (dedicated to Satan), create chaos in order to subvert democracy, and the results of democratic elections in America.
In order to save America, this left-wing, Anti-American Bolshevik revolution needs to be stopped, and if that means war then that just might be the ultimate solution. We can't let this scum take over the country and turn America into not-America. We can't let them erase our history and use violence to suppress free speech, which is another way they are tearing away at the fabric of our society.
We can't let them define white conservatives as Nazis, so that they are allowed to "punch a Nazi".
We can't let these gutter rats define white conservatives as KKK so that they can claim moral high ground.
There will come a time when America will have to stand up to this non-American virus in our midst and do what needs to be done.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Keyser Soze: <OhioChessFan: IMHO, the vast majority of problems with America is traced directed to the social upheavals of the 60's. >|
I said something like that before. This is a worldwide trend. Old (educated) generations (not necessarily conservatives or religious people ) against this new uber sensitive virtual generation, bunch of ill mannered people , product of an empty parental power families, where spoiled individuals who never grown up (we see lots of examples here on the site) learned more from social media than from their parents and dont mind to be loud and vocal about it.
Sad, and worried-some times.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Big Pawn: Leftist fascists assault white woman who's holding an American flag.|
These leftist fascist thugs need to be stopped. It's a war on America.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Big Pawn: Boston: Antifa mob stabbed this guy. He posted it to Facebook.|
|Aug-19-17|| ||thegoodanarchist: I like that you closed your forum down last night, to keep the dimwits from spamming it all night.|
Well thought out.
Anyway, I propose a different name than "Antifa".
Antifa is just leftist fascism.
I personally will call it "Leftifa" from now on.
Of course no one need adopt my idea.
I'm just saying that's what *I* will do.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Big Pawn: <tga>, are you aware of the role that postmodernism, the philosophical school, plays in this entire left wing bolshevik leftifa revolution?|
Every political revolution in history is preceded and in fact made possible by a philosophical revolution and the enlightenment period was built on what we now call modernism. This school of thought covered everything including how we come to know things, whether or not we can truly acquire knowledge, human nature, a diagnosis of society, a prescription based on that diagnosis, whether truth really exists or not, the individual versus the collective and the fundamental reasons behind that and so much more.
The first philosopher that we could really say was a postmodern was Hegel. He was also one of the first existential philosophers. He came right after Immanuel Kant and laid the groundwork for the real postmoderns that work to come, and other existentialists for that matter like Nietzsche and Sartre.
In my view, one cannot have what could be considered insightful and uncommon understanding of the current political landscape without knowledge of the philosophical systems that make it possible ie postmodernism and how it is a reaction to modernism, which is what the enlightenment was based on.
I see two basic ways of increasing knowledge and they need balance. They can be thought of as vertical and horizontal. Horizontal knowledge is when one is at a certain level and continues to acquire information at that level. They get to know what they already know a little bit better. The other way, vertical knowledge, is when we actually acquire new understandings and achieve new depths of knowledge that bring us to a different level. Once we do that we need to consolidate and re-engage in building horizontal knowledge at that new level.
What I see 99% of the time his people engaging, and satisfied to be engaging, in mere horizontal knowledge building. It takes work to achieve uncommon depth of understanding and add to one's vertical knowledge.
Understanding the relevance and significance of postmodernism as it underlies the current political landscape is a perfect example of acquiring the necessary vertical knowledge to achieve a truly deep understanding and separate ones self from the tunas of the world.
|Aug-20-17|| ||Big Pawn: Boston: This video shows the left wing Anti-American fascists BURNING the American flag at the protest. They claim to be "fighting Nazis" by burning the American flag and shutting down free speech.|
The tactic is to dehumanize the enemy, who happen to be white people who carry American flags, but calling them a dehumanizing name. Then, in order to insulate themselves from a moral judgment, they call themselves names like "Anti-Racists" and "Anti-Fascists", as they throw acid in people's faces (Baked Alaska), beat up women with American flags (BOSTON) and stab white guys that "look like a Nazi" (BOSTON - see video above).
These people are in MY COUNTRY, burning MY FLAG and telling me they are DOING GOOD?
I think you all know what needs to happen.
|Aug-20-17|| ||Big Pawn: What the White Nationalists think of Neo Nazis - The Neo Nazi website The Daily Stormer was taken down after Google dropped it from its servers and, more surprisingly, Godaddy revoked their domain. This happened in the wake of the Charlottesville incident where the liberals are trying to blur the lines between white advocates, white nationalists, white supremacists and neo nazis. |
From the wikipedia page on The Daily Stormer, this paragraph details the reactions of well known white nationalists to the Daily Stormer, the neo-nazi website.
<Reaction from white nationalists
Photographic portrait of a smiling man outside
Jared Taylor criticized the tone of The Daily Stormer.
White nationalist websites such as Stormfront and Counter-Currents have taken issue with what they see as lowbrow coverage on The Daily Stormer, as well as Anglin's defense of Christianity and denunciation of the white supremacist group Christian Identity. Kyle Rogers of the Council of Conservative Citizens has also criticized the website for reprinting its material. Anglin has also been criticized for his relationships with non-white women in the Philippines, and for his insults towards white women on his website.
Colin Liddell of AlternativeRight.com has criticized Anglin's beliefs and tone. Liddell, who believes that stopping migration and encouraging higher birthrates is more important for preserving the white race, condemned Anglin for writing that it was impossible for the race to survive without adopting his views on Jews, Hitler and the Holocaust. Liddell considered that Anglin was attracting poor whites with his provocative online persona in the same manner as monster trucks and professional wrestling, writing that "it is hard not to conclude that Anglin is a paid shill and agent provocateur, whose purpose is simply to infest and discredit White nationalism". Jared Taylor of American Renaissance criticized The Daily Stormer's "extremely harsh, dismissive and insulting tone toward blacks", which he called unhelpful.
Others, such as the Traditionalist Youth Network, have praised The Daily Stormer for its reach and influence. Anglin's extreme tone has led some white nationalists to suspect that he is an undercover Jew, an accusation he finds analogous to believing that Jewish LGBT activist Allen Ginsberg was an undercover Nazi.>
As I've been studying the Alt Right since last October, I would say that the opinions of the majority of Alt Righters fall in line with the statements above, like Jared Taylor's.
What can we conclude from this?
We can conclude that there is a sharp difference between neo-nazis and the Alt Right, which includes elements of white nationalism and white supremacy, but mostly white nationalism and white advocacy.
Does this mean that the liberals will stop blurring the lines? No. Their agenda is to label every single person on the right, no matter what their positions, a Nazi so that they can punch them, beat them, throw acid on them, tear down their statues, burn their flag, keep their speakers from speaking on campus, burn their cities, break their windows, loot their businesses and throw urine in their faces.
Yes, they do all this and then they do it some more. They do it all over the country, but it's okay because they call themselves anti-racists, a label which absolves them from every evil act they commit. You see, racism is now the greatest evil (doesn't exist, never did), so the ends justify the means.
Some of us have been watching liberalism for a long time, watching it get in position to do real harm. It starts with attacking the moral values of a nation with a great tradition. Then it all comes down from there. First it's the sexual revolution, then it's divorce your "abusive" husband, then it's feminism, then it's gay marriage, then it's merry Christmas is offensive - next thing you know, the country has gone mad and there is a revolution on our hands.
|Aug-20-17|| ||tpstar: <Big Pawn> Thank you very much for those interesting Jared Taylor videos.|
The first one is hard to watch, as interviewer Jorge Ramos constantly interrupts him and won't allow him to finish his sentences. Taylor clearly makes his point about the double standard where Hispanics can define their unique cultural identity while expecting equal representation ("only 3 Senators"), except he is also right that this approach constitutes racial profiling by definition which should be against modern American values. The part about Latin America and those countries protecting their borders and their identities leaves out how virtually nobody wants to immigrate there, while virtually everybody wants to immigrate here, taking unfair advantage of our largesse. I suspect other countries limit immigration (particularly Muslims) partly out of protecting their own nationalism, but mostly due to cost.
The second interview goes much better, as at least she listens to his full answers and then asks thoughtful follow-up questions. He is right that Americans tend to form "enclaves" within our own socioeconomic categories, but I believe that is far more related to class than race. You knew she would bring up slavery, and she was clearly surprised to learn that it was not a successful economic model. She says Whites have an advantage in college and society; he blasts "White Privilege" and academia's attempt to shame Whites based on events from long long ago. She brings up hate crimes; he brings up BLM and hoaxes. She mentions Native Americans; he counters that they fought war against other tribes all the time.
Jared Taylor is longing for his version of America which is based on historical remnants; our founding fathers were primarily White Christians with slavery as an established institution in the background. The musical "1776" clearly shows how the Declaration of Independence had to edit out the key paragraph about abolishing slavery or else the Deep South would have never gone along, preventing unanimity. I will agree with his position that present-day America suffers through forced integration by law and special treatment based on race, yet I don't agree with "his people" meaning Whites only. But overall, if our country allows BET without question, then we should allow WET without question, or else they're both wrong.
<spotlighting the incident in Charlottesville and using it as an excuse to label all those on the right as Nazis, label them a terrorist organization and double bolt lock their freedom of speech> Agree. It is refreshing watching Americans reject the liberal triangle's interpretation about other people's rights. If White Supremacy is bad, then Left Supremacy is even worse.
|Aug-20-17|| ||Big Pawn: The Terror Attacking in Finland, which the media is hardly covering, is notable in that the Muslim attacked women. |
He attacked women pushing strollers.
There's only one thing to do now: bring more Muzzies to Finland and keep the borders open.
What else is there to do?
Where are the Finish men?
Where are the German men?
Where are the men of Europe?
They are out cucking, while women run the show.
Well, I guess this is the multiculturalism they asked for.
|Aug-20-17|| ||Keyser Soze: <Well, I guess this is the multiculturalism they asked for.>
Yes , multiculturalism, paved on political correctness.
Multiculturalism per si, is fine, only if you bring <nice> <honest> <educated> and cultured people for your country. Individuals who can really contribute for the society..|
But political correctness brought a mud on all of this. Now a country is not allowed to proper filter that nuances, because is uncool to individually (proper) check someone for his education, culture background, physiologic history and so forth.
When the sexual assaults in Finland skyrocketed. I remember some government people (and ONGS) defending the immigrants (the attackers) "pondering" that they were from very poor countries, with high stress environment, war zone like, very male-dominant society, and other crap like that. So what? keep bringing them all (put all on the same basket) and risk the population?
Therefore, the political correctness `sense of morality` is more important nowadays than the safety of the population. Europe is bleeding because of that..Sad.
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