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Hugin
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A little chess puzzle..White moves and win. White can also force black to mate him, and black can't avoid it..


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   Aug-27-14 Hugin chessforum
 
Hugin: Too late the change direction of the voting train but neverless here it is. 3 promising lines... 14.e5 Ne4 15.Bc2** f5 16.exf6 Nxf6 17.Nb3 Bxc2 18.Qxc2 Ne4 19.Re2* [19.Nc5* Bxc5 20.dxc5 Nf5 21.b4 c6 22.Bb2 Nh4 23.Nxh4 Rxf2 24.Qb3 Qxh4 25.Rxe4 Rxb2 26.Qxd5+ cxd5 27.Rxh4 Re8 28.Rd1 Re5
 
   Aug-10-14 john barleycorn chessforum (replies)
 
Hugin: I starts to think the strategy is to bore our opponent to death.....Every interesting line /variation is put to rest, and some gumbaya tinbox variation showing 00.01 numbers makes some tunabox chewing comp nerds go exstatic. I jumped in trying john but they simply wont play ...
 
   Aug-06-14 Kenneth Rogoff (replies)
 
Hugin: US Congress is performing a riverdance with pockets full of AIPAC money as usual... Welcome to the New United States of America; the Financial and Mentally Occupied TerrorTory of Zionism and the New World Order.
 
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Jul-08-14
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  Hugin: Hugin: DPLeo: In the <g.mueller> line:

<1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.d3 Bc5 5.c3 O-O 6.O-O Re8 7.Nbd2 a6 8.Ba4 b5 9.Bb3 d6 10.h3 Bb6 11.Re1 Na5 12.Bc2 c5 13.Nf1 h6 14.Ng3 Be6 15.Nh4 d5 16.exd5 Bxd5 17.Nhf5 Re6 18.Nh5 Nxh5 19.Qxh5

<team kids can win> suggests 19... Ra7 as a way for Black to put up more of a fight. >

Yes 19.-Ra7 best then 20.Re3 Rg6 21.Nh4 and black really starts to suffer........

Jul-09-14
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  Hugin:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.d3 Bc5 5.c3 0-0 6.0-0 Re8 7.Nbd2 a6 8.Ba4 b5 9.Bb3 d6 10.h3 Bb6 11.Re1 Na5 12.Bc2 c5 13.Nf1 h6 14.Ng3 Be6 15.Nh4 d5 16.exd5 Bxd5 17.Nhf5 Re6 18.Nh5 Nxh5 19.Qxh5 Ra7 20.Re3

[20.c4 Ba8 21.cxb5 Rg6 22.Nh4 Re6 23.a4 c4 24.dxc4 Nxc4 25.Rd1 Qf6 26.Nf5 e4 27.Ne3 axb5 28.Ng4 Qe7 29.Qxb5 Qc7 30.a5 Rxa5 31.Rxa5 Nxa5 32.Ne3 Bc6 33.Qe2 Uncertairn]

20...Rg6 21.Nh4 Rg5 22.Qe2 Kf8 23.g4

[23.Nf3 Rg6 24.Rxe5 Nc6 25.Re3 Re7 26.a4 Ree6 27.axb5 axb5 28.Bd2 Uncertain]

23...c4 24.Rg3 cxd3 25.Rxd3 e4 26.Rd1 Re5 27.Bf4 Re8 28.Nf5 Rd7 29.b3 Kg8 30.Rac1 Qf6 31.Be3 Bxe3 32.Nxe3 Bc6 33.Rxd7 Bxd7 34.Qd2 Bc8 35.Qd4 Qxd4 36.cxd4 Nc6 37.Rd1 Nd8 38.Kg2

[38.d5 Nb7 39.d6 Rd8 40.Bxe4 Nxd6 41.Bf3 Drawish]

38...Kf8 39.Kg3 Nb7 40.Rc1 Nd6 41.Bd1 Rd8 42.Rc6 g6 43.h4 Rd7 44.b4 Bb7 45.Rc5 Nc8 46.d5 Ne7 47.Bb3 g5 48.Kh3 Rd8 49.h5 Nc8 50.Nf5 Nd6 51.Nxh6 Bc8 52.Nf5 Bxf5 53.gxf5 Ke7 54.Kg4 Kf6 55.Rc6 Ke5 56.Rxa6 Nxf5 57.d6 f6 58.d7 Nh6+ 59.Kg3 Rxd7 60.Re6+ Kf5 61.Rb6 Rd3+ 62.Kg2 Rd2 63.Kf1 Kg4 64.Ke1 Rb2 65.Bd1+ Kf5 66.Rxb5+ Kf4 67.Rb6 Ke5 68.a4 Nf5 69.a5 e3 70.fxe3 Nxe3 71.a6 Ng2+ 72.Kf1 Ne3+ 73.Kg1 Rg2+ 74.Kh1 Rd2 75.Bb3 Re2 76.Re6+ Kf4 77.Bc4 Re1+ 78.Kh2


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White wins.

Jul-09-14
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  Hugin:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.d3 Bc5 5.c3 0-0 6.0-0 d6 7.Nbd2 a6 8.Ba4 Ba7 9.h3 Ne7 10.Re1 Ng6 11.d4 b5 12.Bc2 Re8 13.Nf1 Bb7 14.Ng3 h6


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15.b4 Bb6 16.a4 a5 17.bxa5 Rxa5 18.Bd2 bxa4 19.Bxa4 Rf8 20.Bc2 Rxa1 21.Qxa1 Qa8 22.Qc1


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White already much better...
Kh7 23.Nf5 Ng8 24.h4 Re8 25.Be3 exd4 26.Bxd4 Bxd4 27.cxd4 N8e7 28.h5 Nf8 29.N3h4 Nxf5 30.Nxf5 Bc8 31.Nxh6 gxh6 32.Re3 Ne6 33.e5+ Kg7


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34.Rg3+! Kf8 35.Qxh6+ Ke7 36.Qf6+ Kd7 37.exd6 Bb7 1-0

Did some say draw? h*ll no let's fight....

Jul-12-14
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  Hugin:

A high level engine game with human analysis:)

Komodo 1121.05 - Stockfish 151013

I am not a computer expert at all. So, when asked to annotate this game, I focused on the turning points seen from a human perspective. This does innevitable focus on the illogical moments.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. d3 Bc5 5. c3 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nbd2 a5 8. Re1

You could quite easily imagine that this position had occured in a game between two top grandmasters. But as human's think in plans (read sequences), while computers simply calculate on each move independently.

8... Ng4 9. Re2 Nf6

This does not work. Remarkably Stockfish had this intention on the previous move. [9... f5!? would be a very human approach, making sense of the previous move. My laptop is suggesting a somewhat unreliable idea:] [9... Nxf2 10. Rxf2 Bxf2+ 11. Kxf2 Ne7, where it says Black is better. It is nonsense. If anything, White is better.]

10. h3 h6 11. Nf1 Bb6 12. Ng3 Bd7 13. a4 Ne7 14. d4 Bxb5 15. axb5 Ng6 16. Qc2 Re8

Despite its slightly odd move, Black is still more or less ok out of the opening.

17. Be3 exd4 18. cxd4 Qd7
19. Qd3 d5

[19... Nf8!?]

20. e5 Ne4

The two machines are different about the evaluation here and it seems that Komodo is right. White is a bit better, the position is not equal. But I believe that with accurate play Black should have equalised some way.

21. Ra3!

This is entirely mysterious, but it makes the white pieces work better together. It also tricks Black into thinking it can take on g3 without repurcussions, though computers are not known for setting psychological traps.. .

21... Nxg3?!

Later on Black will suffer deeply for the opening of the f-file. I would recommend [21... Ne7!? as a possible improvement.]

22. fxg3 Nf8 23. Nh4 Nh7 24. Kh2 f6

A weakening move, but long term there is pressure down the f-file anyway.

25. Ng6 Qf7?

This looks like the decisive moment to me. Black was probably not in any significant trouble after [25... fxe5 26. dxe5 (26. Nxe5 Qe7) 26... Bxe3 27. Rxe3 White has a slight advantage , though White has a slight plus.]

26. Ra1 Ng5 27. exf6 Ne4

Black has to accept a bad pawn
structure. [27... Qxf6 does not work. 28. Bxg5 Qxg5 29. Re5! Rxe5 30. dxe5 Re8 31. Rf1 is very unpleasant for Black. Actually he is in great need of a move.]

28. Ne7+ Kh8 29. Bd2!

This move is hard to understand, and this is when the computer impress me. It is all about coordination. The bishop would be in the way on f4.

29... gxf6 30. Nf5

White has a moderate advantage Also without computers we would probably think that White has a big advantage here. The knight is very strong on f5 and the black kingside is wrecked.

30... h5 31. Rf1 Qh7 32. Rf4 c6 33. Qf3 Ng5 34. Rxe8+ Rxe8 35. Qd1 Bc7 36. Rh4 Kg8 37. Bf4!

This is computers as we know them. A deep combination where material is won back much later. For a human this would be unnecessarily risky; for Komodo it is core nature. [37. Bxg5 fxg5 38. Qxh5 Qxh5 39. Rxh5 was also very promising.]

37... Qxf5 38. Qxh5 Ra8 39. b6 Bxf4 40. gxf4 Qh7 41. Qg4!

[41. fxg5 Qxh5 42. Rxh5 fxg5 43. Rxg5+ Kf7 should not be a serious problem for Black.]

41... Qe4 42. Qg3 Qxd4 43. Rh6!?

[43. fxg5 Qe5 44. gxf6+ Qxg3+ 45. Kxg3 Re8 46. Kf3 c5 47. g4 d4 48. g5 d3 49. g6 Rf8 50. Rf4]

43... Rf8

[43... Re8 44. fxg5 f5 45. g6 with the idea Rh7 also looks good for White.]

44. h4 Qe4 45. fxg5 Qe5 46. Rg6+ Kh7 47. Qxe5 fxe5 48. Rd6 e4

[48... Kg8 49. Rd7 Rf7 is an interesting defensive try, but White can play: 50. Rc7! e4 51. g6 Rf6 52. Rxb7 c5 53. h5 and his passed pawns are too advanced for Black to deal with.]

49. Rd7+ Kg6

[49... Kg8 50. Rxb7 e3 51. Re7 Rb8 52. Rxe3 Rxb6 53. h5 also looks winning for White. One of the ideas is that 53... Rxb2 will lose to 54. Re8+ Kf7 (54... Kh7) 55. Rc8.]

50. Kg3!

White comes with a beautiful mating attack.

50... Kf5 51. Rxb7 d4 52. Rc7 e3 53. Re7 Rb8

[53... Rd8 54. b7 d3 55. Rxe3 d2 56. Rf3+ Kg6 57. Rf1 does also not offer Black sufficient counterplay to save the game.]

54. Kf3

White is threatening to mate the black king with 55.g4+ Kg6 56.b7 (to play b8=Q later on) 56...c5 57.Kf4. Here Black is forced to play 57...Rf8+ 58.Kg3 Rb8, when 59.h5+ Kxg5 60. Re6! wins. So Stockfish delays the inevitable, but nothing more.

54... e2

[54... c5 55. g4+ Kg6 56. b7 c4 57. Kf4 Rf8+ 58. Kg3 Rb8 59. h5+ Kxg5 60. Re6]

55. g4+ Kg6 56. Rxe2 Rxb6 57. Re6+ Kf7 58. Rd6 Ke7 59. Rxd4 Rxb2 60. h5 Rb8 61. g6 Ra8 62. h6 1-0

Game annotated by GM Jakob Aagaard

http://tcec.chessdom.com/archive.php

Jul-13-14
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  Hugin:

Just to remind myself we could really had real fun in our centaur games....

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.d4 exd4 7.0-0 Nge7 8.Ng5 d5 9.Nxf7 Kxf7 10.exd5 Ne5 11.Bb3 Nf5 12.cxd4 Ng6 13.d6+ Kf8


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Jul-18-14
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  Hugin:

7.Nbd2 Ne7 8.d4 exd4 9.cxd4 Bb6 10.b3** Ng6 11.Qc2* Likes this one.

[11.Bb2* c6 12.Bd3 Nf4 13.Bc2 Re8 14.h3 (14.Kh1 Bg4 15.Rc1 Bh5 16.Ra1 Qd7 (16...Bg4 17.Rc1 Bh5 18.Ra1 Bg4 19.Rc1 Bh5 20.Ra1) 17.a3 Qg4 18.Rg1 Bg6 19.Qb1 Qh5 20.Re1) 14...d5 15.e5 N6h5 16.Rc1 f6 17.Kh1 g6;

11.h3* c6 12.Bd3 d5 13.Qc2 Nf4 14.e5 Nxd3 15.Qxd3 Ne4 16.Nxe4 Bf5 17.Nf6+ Qxf6 18.Qc3 (18.Qe3 Qe7 19.a4 Qd8 20.Ba3 Re8) 18...Qe6;

11.Ba3* c6 12.e5 cxb5 13.exf6 Bf5 (13...gxf6 14.Ne4 a5 15.Nxd6 b4 16.Nxc8 Rxc8 17.Bc1 Re8 18.Bh6 Ne7 19.Re1 Nf5 20.Rxe8+ Qxe8 21.Qd2 Rd8) 14.fxg7 Re8 15.Re1 Qf6 16.Re3 Rxe3 17.fxe3 Re8 18.Nf1 Bg4 19.h3 Bxf3 20.Qxf3 Bxd4 21.Qxf6 Bxf6 22.Rd1 Be5;

11.Re1* c6 12.Bf1 Re8 13.Qc2 h6 14.h3 Be6 15.Ba3 Nf4 16.e5 dxe5 17.dxe5 N6d5 18.Nc4 Ba5 19.Red1 Bc7 20.Nd6 Likes this one.


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11...c6 12.Bd3 Nf4 13.Bb2 Re8 14.Rfe1 Ba5
[14...Bg4 15.Bf1 Ba5 16.Re3 Qd7 17.Nh4 Bxd2 18.Qxd2 Nxe4 19.Rxe4 Rxe4 20.f3 Bxf3 21.gxf3 Ne2+ 22.Bxe2 Rxh4 23.d5] 15.Bf1 Bg4 16.Re3 Qd7 [16...Rc8 17.a3 h6 18.b4 Bb6 19.h3 Be6] 17.Nh4 Bxd2 18.Qxd2 Nxe4 19.Rxe4 Rxe4 20.f3 Bxf3 21.gxf3 Ne2+ 22.Bxe2 Rxh4 23.d5 *


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So temporary conclusion 10.b3 seems to work and it creates a range of diffrent tension filled/complicated postions where our hardware superiority should cause the GM serious problems...

Jul-19-14
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  Hugin: http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/pdf.htm
Jul-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin:

Attention pilgrims!! hehe

Currently i am working with
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.d3 Bc5 5.c3 O-O 6.O-O d6 7.Nbd2 Ne7 8.d4 exd4 9.cxd4 Bb6 10.Qc2** Bg4..

Among the choices white got now are
1.b4 that bloody Hugin idea back?.
2.h3 the ghost of ceri lurking around?.
3.b3
4.Re1
5.a3
There is probably more but these are what i works on now.....

Jul-21-14
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  DaringSpeculator: <Hi Hugin> This is the raw data I have after 10. Qc2. As you can see, the evaluation turns slightly negative at higher ply. Maybe a deeper analysis and some sliding forward is required but unfortunately I had to turn the computer off.

37/55 4:37:24 127,424,805k 7,656k +0.19 10. ... h6 11.h3 Bd7 12.Bd3 Nc6 13.Qc3 Re8 14.Bb1 Ne7 15.a4 c5 16.dxc5 Rc8 17.Nb3 Ng6 18.Re1 Bxc5 19.Nxc5 dxc5 20.e5 Nd5 21.Qb3 Nb4 22.Bxg6 Be6 23.Bxf7+ Kxf7 24.Qc3 Qd3

37/55 4:37:24 127,424,805k 7,656k +0.17 10. ... c5 11.d5 Ng6 12.Bd3 a6 13.b3 Bc7 14.a4 Bg4 15.h3 Bd7 16.Bb2 Re8 17.Rfd1 Nf4 18.Bf1 Rb8 19.Kh2 Ng6 20.g3 b5 21.axb5 axb5 22.Re1 Ba5 23.Kg1

37/55 4:37:24 127,424,805k 7,656k +0.10 10. ... c6 11.Bd3 Ng6 12.Re1 Nf4 13.Bf1 Bg4 14.b4 Ne6 15.Bb2 Rc8 16.Bd3 Nf4 17.Bf1 Re8 18.Rac1 a5 19.a3 h6 20.h3 Bh5 21.g3 Ne6 22.Bd3 axb4 23.axb4 d5 24.e5 Ne4 25.Bxe4 dxe4 26.Qxe4 Qe7 27.Qe3 Rcd8

37/55 4:37:24 127,424,805k 7,656k +0.09 10. ... Bg4 11.h3 a6 12.Bd3 Bxf3 13.Nxf3 Nc6 14.Be3 Nb4 15.Qb3 Nxd3 16.Qxd3 Qe7 17.Nd2 Rfe8 18.f3 d5 19.e5 Nd7 20.f4 Qb4

37/55 4:37:24 127,424,805k 7,656k +0.07 10. ... Bd7 11.Be2 Bg4 12.h3 Bh5 13.e5 Bg6 14.Qb3 Ne4 15.Rd1 dxe5 16.Nxe4 Bxe4 17.dxe5 Bd5 18.Qc2 c6 19.b3 Qc7 20.Ba3 Rfe8 21.Rac1 Rad8 22.Bd6 Qd7 23.Nh4 g6 24.Bg4 f5 25.Bf3 a6 26.Qd2 Bxf3 27.Nxf3 Nd5

37/55 4:37:24 127,424,805k 7,656k +0.02 10. ... a6 11.Bd3 Nc6 12.Qc3 d5 13.e5 Nh5 14.Nb3 f6 15.Re1 Bg4 16.Bf1 g6 17.Bh6 Re8 18.Be2 Ng7 19.exf6 Qxf6 20.h3 Rxe2 21.Rxe2 Bxf3 22.Bxg7 Kxg7 23.Qxf3 Qxf3 24.gxf3 Rf8 25.Rd1 Rxf3 26.Nc5 Rxh3 27.Ne6+ Kh6 28.Nf4

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37/57 5:38:40 155,473,534k 7,651k +0.19 10. ... h6 11.h3 Bd7 12.Bd3 Nc6 13.Qc3 Re8 14.Bb1 Ne7 15.a4 c5 16.dxc5 Rc8 17.Nb3 Ng6 18.Re1 Bxc5 19.Nxc5 dxc5 20.e5 Nd5 21.Qb3 Nb4 22.Bxg6 Be6 23.Bxf7+ Kxf7 24.Qc3 Qd3

37/57 5:38:40 155,473,534k 7,651k +0.17 10. ... c5 11.d5 Ng6 12.Bd3 a6 13.b3 Bc7 14.a4 Bg4 15.h3 Bd7 16.Bb2 Re8 17.Rfd1 Nf4 18.Bf1 Rb8 19.Kh2 Ng6 20.g3 b5 21.axb5 axb5 22.Re1 Ba5 23.Kg1

38/57 5:38:40 155,473,534k 7,651k +0.07 10. ... Bd7 11.Be2 Bg4 12.h3 Bh5 13.e5 Bg6 14.Qb3 Ne4 15.Rd1 dxe5 16.Nxe4 Bxe4 17.dxe5 Bd5 18.Qc2 c6 19.b3 Qc7 20.Ba3 Rfe8 21.Rac1 Rad8 22.Bd6 Qd7 23.Nh4 g6 24.Bg4 f5 25.Bf3 a6 26.Qd2 Bxf3 27.Nxf3 Nd5

38/57 5:38:40 155,473,534k 7,651k +0.06 10. ... c6 11.Bd3 Ng6 12.Re1 Nf4 13.Bf1 Bg4 14.b4 Rc8 15.Bb2 Re8 16.Rac1 a5 17.g3 Ne6 18.a3 Bh5 19.Be2 axb4 20.axb4 Rc7 21.Bd3 d5 22.e5 Ne4 23.Nxe4 dxe4 24.Bxe4 Bxf3 25.Bxf3 Nxd4 26.Bxd4 Bxd4 27.Rcd1 Rd7 28.Bg4

38/57 5:38:40 155,473,534k 7,651k +0.03 10. ... Bg4 11.h3 Bh5 12.a3 d5 13.e5 Ne4 14.Nxe4 dxe4 15.Qxe4 Bxf3 16.gxf3 Qxd4 17.Bd3 g6 18.Bg5 Nf5 19.Rab1 Rae8 20.f4 Qxe4 21.Bxe4 h6 22.Bf6 Ng3 23.Bxb7 Nxf1 24.Kxf1 Rb8 25.Be4 Bd4 26.b4 Rfc8

38/57 5:38:40 155,473,534k 7,651k -0.01 10. ... a6 11.Be2 Bg4 12.e5 Nfd5 13.Nc4 Ba7 14.Re1 Bf5 15.Qb3 b5 16.exd6 cxd6 17.Ne3 Be6 18.Qd1 Nxe3 19.Bxe3 Nf5 20.a4 Nxe3 21.fxe3 bxa4 22.Qxa4 a5 23.Rec1 Bb6 24.Bc4 d5

Jul-22-14
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  Hugin:

A few short lines by stockfish 5 showing how difficult this position are.Let's park the voting train until we done more analysis ...

9.cxd4 Bb6 10.Re1*

[10.h3* d5 (10...Ng6 11.Bd3= 0.06/31 ; 10...c6 11.Bd3= 0.09/31 ) 11.e5= 0.05/32 Ne4;

10.Bd3* Bg4 (10...Re8 11.Nc4= 0.17/29 h6; 10...Ng6 11.Nc4 0.36/29 ) 11.Qb3= 0.00/30 ;

10.b3* Ng6 (10...d5 11.e5= 0.00/30 ; 10...Bg4 11.Bb2= 0.02/28 ) 11.Bb2= -0.07/30 ;

10.a3* d5 (10...Bg4 11.Qc2= 0.06/29 ; 10...Ng6 11.Re1= 0.00/30 ) 11.e5= -0.03/31 Ne4;

10.Qc2* Bg4 (10...Ng6 11.Re1= 0.23/29 ; 10...h6 11.Re1= 0.22/29 ) 11.b3= 0.06/27 (11.h3) ;

10.Qb3* d5 (10...Be6 11.Qc2= 0.00/30 ; 10...c6 11.Bd3= 0.00/30 ) 11.Re1= -0.03/29 ;

10.b4* Bg4 (10...a6; 10...Nc6) 11.Qc2= -0.10/30 (11.Bb2) ]

10...Bg4 [10...Ng6 11.Bf1= 0.20/2910...c6 11.Bd3= 0.22/30 Ng6 12.Nc4 Bg4 13.Nxb6 Qxb6 14.Be3] 11.h3= 0.06/29 Bh5 12.Qb3 d5 13.e5 Nd7 14.Qd1 h6 15.Nb3 *

Aug-04-14
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  Hugin: <Tabanus: From that position on, all our moves are forced until about move 30. Black can perhaps improve by 18...Nc6:

http://www.jepflast.com/chesstree/n..., where's the fun?>

The fun is all in 12.g4 Bg6 13.Qb3 d5 14.e5 Nd7 15.Qa4 c6 16.Bf1 Re8 17.Nb3 h5

(and now either 18.Bd2..18.Qa3 or 18.Bf4)

...18.Bd2 Qc8 19.Rac1

(and now 19.-Nf8 or 19.-a5)

19.-Nf8 20.Nh2 a5 21.f4

and white is better. You guys are stuck in the engine evaluation number h*ll where there is no escape before you takes the blinders off and dare:) Good luck fellas.

Aug-10-14
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  Hugin: <john barleycorn After 13.e5 de5 14.de5 Nfd5 15.Ne4 c6 16.Bc4 Qc7

we have a position with some play 17.Qb3, 17.Nd6 or 17.Bg5 among others.>

13.e5 de5 14.de5 Nfd5 15.Ne4 c6 16.Bc4 Qc7 17.Bg5 now some high ply engine analysis shows 17.-Kh8 and claim it's equal..But here comes Hugins answer 18.Rc1!


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18.-Rad8 If nadi reach this position he will really starts to be concerned...

19.Qb3


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White side the boss in this position........

Aug-16-14
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  Hugin: Ok here is a line something that could give us a chance in case he plays 13.-c6

13.Ba4 c6 14.Bc2 Re8 15.b3 d5 16.e5 Nd7 17.Nf1!

<i like this very much

Nf8

there is other moves like Bxc2 but this is just a start, something for the team to analyse.

18.Ng3 Ne6 19.Be3 Qd7 20.Bxg6 Nxg6 21.Qd2 Rf8 22.h4! Ne7 23.h5 h6 White is better here.

Aug-16-14
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  Hugin: <kwid: <Hugin> <Ok here is a line something that could give us a chance in case he plays

13.Ba4 c6 14.Bc2 Re8 15.b3 d5 16.e5 Nd7

17.Nf1! Nf8 18.Ng3 Ne6 19.Be3 Qd7 20.Bxg6 Nxg6 21.Qd2 Rf8 22.h4! Ne7 23.h5 h6 White is better here.>

Well--'>

24.Rab1 a6 25.Rbc1 Rac8 26.b4 Ra8 27.Nh2 f6 28.exf6 Rxf6 29.Ng4! Rff8 30.Rcd1 Rae8 31.Bxh6! Nf5 32.Nxf5 Rxf5 33.Bxg7 Nxg7 34.Nh6+ Kh7 35.Rxe8 Qxe8 36.Nxf5

white is better...this just to demonstrate how complicated and exciting the game can turn after>

13.Ba4 c6 14.Bc2 Re8 15.b3 d5 16.e5 Nd7

17.Nf1!

Aug-16-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin: <kwid: < 17. Nf1> c5 18. Bxg6 hxg6 19. e6 fxe6 20. Rxe6 cxd4 21. Nxd4 Nf6 22. Bb2 Ne4 23. Ne3 Ng5 24. Re5 Nf7 25. Re6 Ng5 1/2-1/2>

17.Nf1 c5 18.Bxg6 hxg6 19.Ng5/(Bb2)Nf8
20.dxc5 Bxc5 21.b4 Bb6 22.Qf3 Nf5 23.Nxf7 Kxf7 24.g4 and white got all the fun...

Aug-18-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin:

13.Ba4 d5 14.e5 Ne4 15.Bc2 f5 16.exf6 Nxf6 17.b4 a5 18.b5 Bxc2 19.Qxc2 a4

Now white have 2 isolated pawns.....b and d pawn....

20.Ng5 Qd7

blam our isolated b pawn under fire..

21.Ndf3 Rfe8 22.Ne5 Qc8 23.Be3 Nf5

Now our bishop and d4 pawn under fire..


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Aug-18-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin: <kwid: <john barleycorn:> < kwid: < Hugin:> <Yes it is, but what after Nc6 ---.>

<then b4 with b5 in mind.>

Bh5 in reply to b4 and game over.
13. Ba4 d5 14. e5 Ne4 15. Bc2 f5 16. Nf1 Nc6 17. b4 Bh5 18. Ng3 Nxg3 19. fxg3 Bxd4+>

Yes kqid i also found out 13. Ba4 d5 14. e5 Ne4 15. Bc2 f5 16. Nf1 a5 17.Re2 Rc8 18.Rb1 c5 is bad for us...

Ok conclusion 13. Ba4 d5 14. e5 Ne4 15. Bc2 f5 16. Nf1 does not work and neither does 15.-f5 16.exf6 Nxf6 17.b4 a5 18.b5 Bxc2 19.Qxc2 a4

Now white have 2 isolated pawns.....b and d pawn....

20.Ng5 Qd7

blam our isolated b pawn under fire..

21.Ndf3 Rfe8 22.Ne5 Qc8 23.Be3 Nf5

Now our bishop and d4 pawn under fire..

Also if 13. Ba4 d5 is played 14. e5 is out of the question...Now let's try 13.-d5 14.exd5

Aug-19-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin:

13.Ba4 d5 14.exd5 Nexd5 15.Nc4 c6 16.Nce5 Qc7 17.Nxg6

get's rid of the pain in the butt bishop

17.-hxg6 18.Bg5 Rfe8 19.Qd3 Nf4 20.Qc4 Ne6 21.Bh4 Nd5 22.Bb3 Qf4 23.Bg3

We got a game here...Keept the bishop pair in position that starts to open up...

Aug-20-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin:

14.e5 Ne4 15.Bc2 f5 16.exf6 Nxf6 17.b4 a5
18.Bb2

(18.Be3 already covered whites gets a inferior position)

18.-axb4 19.axb4 Rxa1 20.Bxa1 Nh5 21.g3 Qd6 22.Bxg6 Nxg6

from this position i pick black side any day......

Aug-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin: 13.Ba4 d5 14.exd5 Nexd5 15.Nc4 c6 16.Nce5 Qd6 17.Nxg6 hxg6 18.Qc2 Rfe8 19.Bd2 Qd7 20.Qd3 Nh5 21.Qc4 Bc7 22.Bc2 Bf4 23.Bc3 Bd6 24.Ba5 Nhf4 25.Bd2 a5 26.Qf1 Ne6 27.g3 Nf6


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Ok i can't really find anything close to winning in 13.Ba4 d5 14.exd5 variation...Now i will look into 13.Ba4 d5 14.e5 again....

Aug-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin:

13.Ba4 d5 14.e5 Ne4 15.Bc2 f5 16.exf6 Nxf6 17.Nb3 Bxc2 18.Qxc2 Ne4 19.Bg5* Rxf3 20.Bxe7 Rxf2 21.Qxf2 Qxe7 22.Nd2

< Seems to offer more interesting lines then 22.Nc5 >

[22.Nc5 Rf8 (22...Bxc5) 23.Qe3 Bxc5 24.dxc5 Qxc5 25.Qxc5 Nxc5 26.Re7 Rf7 27.Re8+ Rf8 28.Re7 (28.Rxf8+ Kxf8 29.Kf2 Ne4+ (29...Nb3) 30.Ke3 Ke7 31.b4 Drawish) 28...Rf7 Draw]

22...Nxf2

[22...Re8 23.Nxe4 dxe4 24.Qe3 Qe6 25.Rad1]

23.Rxe7 Bxd4 24.Kf1 Rf8 25.Rxc7

[25.Nf3 Bb6 26.Rd7; 25.Ke2 c5]

25...Bxb2 26.Ra2 Nxh3+

[26...Ne4+ 27.Nf3 Bd4]

27.Nf3 Bd4 28.Rxb7 Ng5 29.Rd2 Nxf3

[29...Bb6 30.Rxd5 Nxf3 31.gxf3 Rxf3+ 32.Kg2]

30.gxf3 Rxf3+ 31.Kg2 Rf4 32.Rb4 Bc3 33.Rxf4 Bxd2 34.Rd4 Be3 35.Rxd5 Kf7 36.Kf3 Bb6 37.Rd7+ Kg6 38.Kf4 Bc5 39.a4 Kf6 40.a5 h5


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Looks drawish.

Next 13.Ba4 d5 14.e5 Ne8

Aug-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin:

14.exd5 Nexd5 15.Nc4 c6 16.Bb3 Re8 17.Rxe8+ Nxe8 18.Nce5 Bf5 19.g4 Bg6 20.Bg5 Nef6 21.Bh4 Qc7 moving out of the diagonal h4 d8....22.Nxg6 finally gets rid of the annoying Bishop 22.- hxg6 23.Bg3 wow i am impressed..


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Ladies and gentlemen i starts to think we got something here........A future with some kingside attack or in worst case scenario a bishop pair endgame advantage.....I am pretty sure if our opponent reach this position he wont be happy...Over to the strong players on this team for comments...

Aug-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin: Stockfish 231213 64 - Komodo 7a 64-bit [C65] 240'/40+60'/20+30'

13.Ba4 d5

from here the engines started the game

14.exd5 Nexd5 15.Nc4 c6 16.Bb3 Re8 17.Rxe8+ Nxe8 18.Nce5 Bf5 19.g4 Bg6 20.Bg5 Nef6 21.Bh4 Qc7 22.Nxg6 hxg6 23.Bg3 Qd7 24.Qd3 Re8 25.Ne5 Qd8 26.Rd1 a6 27.Qf3 Qe7 28.Bc4 Qe6 29.Kg2 Ba7 30.b4 Rd8 31.Bh4 Bb6 32.Rd2 Qe8 33.a4 Rd6 34.b5 axb5 35.axb5 Re6 36.Bg3 g5 37.Rd1 g6 38.h4 gxh4 39.Bxh4 Bc7 40.Rc1 Kg7 41.Bg3 Bb6 42.Rd1 Bc7 43.Re1 Bb6 44.Qd1 Nh7 45.Rh1 Ng5 46.Qc1 f6 47.Nf3 Nf7 48.Qb1 Nc3 49.Qg1 cxb5 50.Bb3 Re7 51.Qh2 Qh8 52.Qxh8+ Nxh8 53.g5 Nf7 54.gxf6+ Kxf6 55.Rh7 Bd8 56.Bxf7 Rxf7 57.Bh4+ Ke6 58.Rxf7 Kxf7 59.Bxd8 *


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1-0 white wins

I already adressed the first moves for anyone interested in the main site here...I've got no more time to take the rest. Play through the game and you will see Stockfish 5 grinds Komodo 7a down and black can't defend himself with sucess..These are the 2 top engines in the world and it's seldon one win a game over another so this game in my eyes are significant to evaluate our game and decide which move to play 14.dxe5 go team!

Aug-25-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin: kb2ct what do you get if you put this line into Rybka 4?.

14. e5 Ne4 15. Nxe4 dxe4 16. Nh4 Qxd4 17. Qxd4 Bxd4 18. Bg5 Nc6 19. Nxg6 fxg6 20. Rxe4 Bxf2+ 21. Kh2 Rf5

22.Bf4* Raf8 23.Bd2 Rd8 24.Bb4 a5 25.Bb3+ Kh8 26.Bc3 b5 27.Rc1 h6 28.e6 Bc5 29.Be1 a4 30.Ba2 Kh7 31.g3

Aug-27-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hugin: Too late the change direction of the voting train but neverless here it is.

3 promising lines...

14.e5 Ne4 15.Bc2** f5 16.exf6 Nxf6 17.Nb3 Bxc2 18.Qxc2 Ne4 19.Re2*

[19.Nc5* Bxc5 20.dxc5 Nf5 21.b4 c6 22.Bb2 Nh4 23.Nxh4 Rxf2 24.Qb3 Qxh4 25.Rxe4 Rxb2 26.Qxd5+ cxd5 27.Rxh4 Re8 28.Rd1 Re5 29.Rhd4 Ree2 30.Rg4 Re5 31.Kh2 g6 32.Rc1 Ra2 33.Rg3 Rf5 34.c6


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19.Nbd2* Nxd2 20.Bxd2 Rxf3 21.gxf3 Nc6 22.Qd3 Nxd4 23.f4 c5 24.Bc3 c4 25.Qd1 Nb3 26.Qg4 d4 27.Rad1 Qc8 28.Bb4 Qxg4+ 29.hxg4 a5 30.Bd6 Rd8 31.Be5 a4 32.Kg2 Kf7 33.Re4 Bc5 34.f5


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]

19...Qd7 20.Nc5 Bxc5 21.dxc5 Rae8 22.Be3 Nc6 23.Kh2 Qf5 24.Rae1 Rd8 25.Qa4 h6 26.Qb5 Rb8 27.Qd3 Rbe8 28.Rd1 Ne7 29.Qb3 b6 30.Qc2 Qh5 31.Rd3 b5 32.c6 Rf6 33.Bc5 Rxc6 34.b4 *


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Oh well.......Voting 15.Bc2

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