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Kinghunt
Member since Oct-26-08 · Last seen Dec-19-14
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Career supertournament wins by player
Updated 30 April, 2014

Kasparov: 40
Karpov: ?
Kramnik: 23
Topalov: 21
Anand: 21
Carlsen: 21
Ivanchuk: 15
Gelfand: 11
Aronian: 10
Karjakin: 4
Caruana: 4
Grischuk: 1
Nakamura: 1

My definition of supertournament is quite broad: any closed international event with at least two players who have been in the top 10 in the last year constitutes a supertournament. Neither matches nor rapid/blitz events count as supertournaments, regardless of who is playing.

If there is a tie for first, it will be counted for all players involved unless the tournament used tiebreaks, in which case only the player they declared winner gets to count it. Please see posts below for details on the events considered but not counted for this list.

Also, for what it's worth, in case of a tie, the first player to reach X supertournament wins will remain listed higher.

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   Kinghunt has kibitzed 4198 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Dec-19-14 Carlsen-Anand World Championship (2014) (replies)
 
Kinghunt: <Petrosianic: <Kinghunt> <You can argue that philosophically, if you want, but I would claim that a mate in 1 is better than a mate in 20, even if the end result would be the same.> Yes. Because the odds of a person going wrong on the Mate in 20 are greater than the ...
 
   Dec-18-14 Jobava vs G Arzumanian, 1999 (replies)
 
Kinghunt: <Sally Simpson> Almost certain there is a score error - 34. Qh5 is just ludicrous, as is not exchanging on e5 on the following move. I bet 34. Qh6 was actually played, and the white queen was never hanging.
 
   Dec-18-14 The World vs Naiditsch, 2014 (replies)
 
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   Dec-17-14 Kinghunt chessforum
 
Kinghunt: Bd8 is taking my little machine a really long time to solve, I am moving on and hopefully someone else can take care of that one. Bd4: (#12) Depth: 35/46 00:04:46 457mN 36.e7+ Ke8 37.Rexd4 Rf5 38.Bxf5 gxf5 39.Kg3 c5 ...
 
   Dec-11-14 London Chess Classic (2014) (replies)
 
Kinghunt: <1d410: <Kinghunt> remember losing has to make you lose points ;)> Ah, yes, I had forgotten that's what SatelliteDan really wanted. Anyway, Kramnik showing once again why you should think very carefully before playing a KID against him!
 
   Dec-10-14 London Chess Classic (Rapid Open) (2014) (replies)
 
Kinghunt: <bulibug> After you violated the agreement of the last bet you made on this site, you'll be waiting a long time.
 
   Dec-08-14 Nakamura vs A Giri, 2014 (replies)
 
Kinghunt: Nakamura probably had already calculated 25. Nxf7 as easily winning before Anand played Qxa2 and then very quickly decided that Nxf7 was still just as winning and played it. In chess in general, and especially in blitz, there is no need to look for the optimal move if you already ...
 
   Dec-03-14 Qatar Masters (2014) (replies)
 
Kinghunt: If Yangyi wins, he takes sole first and $25000. If Yangyi draws, he takes second (either alone or shared with up to two other people), netting $11600-$15000, depending on how many ways second is split. If Yangyi loses, he'll probably end up in something like a 8-way tie for ...
 
   Nov-25-14 Nakamura-Aronian Match (2014) (replies)
 
Kinghunt: <SirRuthless> k factor shouldn't affect the direction of the change, just the magnitude. Most likely 2700chess had already updated the blitz ratings when I grabbed "initial" ratings from them (just after the match was over).
 
   Nov-25-14 Magnus Carlsen (replies)
 
Kinghunt: <So far MC has been world champion for about 2.5 years.> Again, it's only been 12 months (almost to the day).
 
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Mar-15-14
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  Patriot: <Kinghunt> Here's a copy of my response.

<That's an interesting idea. So if it happens to be losing it goes with a move that is actually better for its opponent while giving them a tempting way to screw up, since their limited search depth only allowed them to see how "great" 18.g6 is. Very clever!

That's sort of the way strong human players play. When they are losing they may go with a crazy move that is worse but gives them the best chance to get back in the game. After all, they are only going from "lost" to "dead lost" if it doesn't work.>

Mar-15-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: I don't think such a strategy has to be limited to when losing, though. I could imagine the same system giving very good results whatever the evaluation.

For example, consider this position:


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White to move

Let's say the two candidate moves are 18.Ra5 and 18. Bh6. At d=24, we get the following lines and scores:

18. Ra5 O-O-O 19. Rxa7 +1.05
18. Bh6 Na4 19. Qh4 +1.08

However, at d=18, we have these:

18. Ra5 Qb3 19. Nxe4 +0.72
18. Bh6 Na4 19. Qh4 +1.03

Clearly, something changed dramatically in calculation of the 18. Ra5 line. Indeed, if you take the start of the 18 ply line to 24 ply, it finds the resource 19. Rfa1, which brings the evaluation to +1.7. Thus, 18. Ra5 is considered the trickier move and should be favored.

Mar-15-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: (Lines and evals above are illustrative only. Some have been altered for sake of example.)
Mar-15-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Patriot: <Kinghunt> <I don't think such a strategy has to be limited to when losing, though.> Very true! I guess if I was the programmer one of my big concerns would be that the more "heuristic" logic interjected into the main calculation function, the slower it would be and would have a more limited horizon.

It may have something that goes "IF d>=18 THEN Trick_Eval() END" so the more complex logic is bypassed until it reaches that depth. But even such a simple statement could have a dramatic effect since it will be executed billions of times.

It's not to say it won't work--that's just a concern that I would have to test. Nonetheless I think your idea is brilliant!! It's definitely something worth looking into.

Mar-15-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Yes, this may also require MV analysis, which would also slow down the search. I guess it's a question of which would have a larger benefit: the slight increase in accuracy from getting in one extra ply in "normal mode" or the extra trickiness playing in "anti-human mode."
Mar-15-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: I have had ideas of engines using surprise moves. Your idea seems pretty straight forward and captures most of the important variants. As for your extra ply vs trickiness, an extra play isn't an extra ply. In some closed positions, one more ply is almost meaningless, whereas in an open position, it's crucial. But I would guess it's the open positions where the trickiness factor is also most important. I don't know if an eval factor could include an appeal to the type of position on the board before invoking the tricky subroutine, but it's an interesting thought.
Mar-16-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Patriot: <OhioChessFan> <I don't know if an eval factor could include an appeal to the type of position on the board before invoking the tricky subroutine, but it's an interesting thought.> You make a good point about open/closed positions. I guess you could set a global variable such as "OpenPosition = True" after a central pawn capture is made for example. And then that logic could be used along with search depth to determine if "Trick_Eval()", which is more complex, should be executed.

It's been years since I've done any real programming and I miss the creativity behind it.

Apr-18-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Event added:
Zurich 2014, won by Magnus Carlsen. His new career wins list:

Career tournament wins of Carlsen:
Wijk an Zee 2008, 2010, 2013
Baku 2008
Aerosvit 2008
Nanjing 2009, 2010
London 2009, 2010, 2012
Bazna 2010, 2011
Biel 2011
Bilbao 2011, 2012
Moscow 2011, 2012
Candidates 2013
Sinquefield Cup 2013
Zurich 2014

Events excluded: Biel 2007 (insufficient strength)

Apr-18-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Tournament added: Candidates 2014, won by Vishy Anand.

Updated career tournament wins of Anand:
Corus 1989, 1998, 2003, 2004, 2006
Dortmund 2004
Reggio Emilia 1992
Linares 1998, 2007, 2008
Alekhine 1992
Gronigen 1993
Biel 1997
Dos Hermanas 1997
Belgrade 1997
Madrid 1993, 1998
Tilburg 1998
Mexico City 2007
Baden-Baden 2013
Candidates 2014

Events excluded: Open tournaments from his youth, World Cup 2000 (insufficient strength), Dortmund 1996 (lost on tiebreak), Dortmund 2000 (lost on tiebreak)

Apr-18-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Tournament added: Wijk an Zee 2014, won by Levon Aronian

Career supertournament wins of Levon Aronian:
Linares 2006
Wijk an Zee 2007, 2008, 2012
Sochi 2008
Nalchik 2009
Bilbao 2009
Tal Memorial 2010
Alekhine 2013
Wijk an Zee 2014

Events excluded: Tal Memorial 2006, 2011 (lost both on tiebreak)

May-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Kinghunt: Event added:
Gashimov Memorial 2014, won by Magnus Carlsen. His new career wins list:

Career tournament wins of Carlsen:
Wijk an Zee 2008, 2010, 2013
Baku 2008
Aerosvit 2008
Nanjing 2009, 2010
London 2009, 2010, 2012
Bazna 2010, 2011
Biel 2011
Bilbao 2011, 2012
Tal Memorial 2011, 2012
Candidates 2013
Sinquefield Cup 2013
Zurich 2014
Gashimov Memorial 2014

Events excluded: Biel 2007 (insufficient strength)

May-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Career supertournament wins of Sergei Karjakin:

Wijk an Zee 2009
Tal Memorial 2010
Tashkent 2012
Stavanger 2013

Events excluded: Russian championships (no international players), Bazna 2011 (lost on tiebreak)

May-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Career supertournament wins of Fabiano Caruana:
Dortmund 2012
Zurich 2013
Paris 2013

Events excluded: Bilbao 2012 (lost tiebreak playoff), Sigeman 2012 and Reykjavik 2012 (insufficient strength)

May-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Career supertournament wins of Hikaru Nakamura:

Wijk an Zee 2011

Events excluded: Donostia 2009 (insufficient strength)

May-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Career supertournament wins of Alexander Grischuk:

Linares 2009

Events excluded: Russian championships (no international players)

May-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Career supertournament victories of Garry Kasparov:

Frunze 1981 (shared)
Bugojno 1982
Moscow 1982
Nikšić 1983
Brussels 1986
Brussels 1987 (shared)
Amsterdam 1988
Belfort 1988
Moscow 1988 (shared)
Reykjavík 1988
Barcelona 1989 (shared)
Skellefteĺ 1989 (shared)
Tilburg 1989, 1991, 1997
Belgrade 1989
Linares 1990, 1992, 1993, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2005 Novgorod 1994, 1995, 1997
Amsterdam 1994
Horgen 1994
Riga 1995
Las Palmas 1996
Amsterdam 1996
Wijk an Zee 1999, 2000, 2001
Sarajevo 1999, 2000
Astana 2001
Dortmund 1992

Events excluded: Russian Superfinal 2004 (no international players)

Jul-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: <Career supertournament wins of Fabiano Caruana:

Dortmund 2012, 2014
Zurich 2013
Paris 2013

Events excluded: Bilbao 2012 (lost tiebreak playoff), Sigeman 2012 and Reykjavik 2012 (insufficient strength)>

Sep-18-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  DrNyet: <kinghunt> "given the complete lack of evidence for the existence of god"

Except future telling (predicting a messiah who, lo and behold, appeared)?

I certainly don't expect anyone to accept that on my saying, and much that is said by believers is bunk, but for me there is evidence enough that while I can't say I *know* it, I can't disbelieve it.

Oct-18-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: <DrNyet: <kinghunt> "given the complete lack of evidence for the existence of god" Except future telling (predicting a messiah who, lo and behold, appeared)?

I certainly don't expect anyone to accept that on my saying, and much that is said by believers is bunk, but for me there is evidence enough that while I can't say I *know* it, I can't disbelieve it.>

That "future telling" featured both incredibly vague predictions and a very questionable fulfillment of it. Putting these kinds of things to a vote is a terrible way to decide things, but the overwhelming majority of the world believes that Jesus was <not> humanity's messiah. But much more simply, the problem with this argument is that it is completely circular: I know that Jesus is the messiah because he appeared and fulfilled the Bible's prophecy of a messiah.

There are two major criteria that need to be fulfilled to be able to claim future telling: 1. The prediction needs to be <clear> and <understood in advance>, and 2. <the result must be clear>. This example fails both criteria.

The Jewish people were extremely well versed in the text of the Old Testament, but largely rejected claims about Jesus because he did not fit any of their expectations of a messiah. It's a very poor prediction that is worded so vaguely that the people who have studied it most a priori are expecting something radically different from the prophecy's "fulfillment."

That, of course, is all assuming it was fulfilled. I know you deeply believe it was, and I appreciate you honestly acknowledging that your conviction shouldn't be treated as evidence by others. But you do have to understand that when most of the world doesn't believe that your prediction has come true, and there are no demonstrable facts to support it either, it's hard to hold that up as an example of successful future telling.

There are so many convincing predictions that could have been made. A supernova prediction, for example, clearly stated, with a firm date and ideally a part of the sky. I'm sure you can give me theological explanations for why actual predictions about the future haven't happened, but until at least one does, I will continue to hold that there is a "complete lack of evidence for the existence of god," and ask anyone who disagrees to <present their evidence>.

Oct-28-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  ketchuplover: belated happy 6th site anniversary to ye
Oct-28-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Thank you!
Dec-14-14  sinusitis: Just read on chess24.com that Anand won three supertournaments in 2014.
Dec-17-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: 35...Bc7

(#11) Depth: 31/31 00:00:37 53089kN
36.Rxc7 gxh5 37.e7+ Ke8 38.Bd7+ Kf7 39.Rc8 Rxc8 40.Bxc8 Rf2+ 41.Kg3 Rf3+ 42.Kxf3 Ke8 43.Bb7 g6 44.Bxc6+ Kf7 45.e8Q+ Kg7 46.Re7#

Dec-17-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Bishop moves previously analyzed:

35...Ba5: #13
35...Bc5: #11 36.bxc5 gxh5 37.Kg2 hxg4 38.Kxf1 Ke8 39.Rxa7 h6 40.gxh6 Ra8 41.Rxa8+ Ke7 42.hxg7 Kf6 43.g8Q Kf5 44.Qxg4+ Kf6 45.e7 Kf7 46.Rf8#

Currently analyzing 35...Bd8

Other moves I plan to analyze: Bd4, Be3, Bf2, Bg1 (feel free to pick any of these for your own analysis, just post saying that you're doing so so we don't duplicate efforts).

Dec-17-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Bd8 is taking my little machine a really long time to solve, I am moving on and hopefully someone else can take care of that one.

Bd4:
(#12) Depth: 35/46 00:04:46 457mN
36.e7+ Ke8 37.Rexd4 Rf5 38.Bxf5 gxf5 39.Kg3 c5 40.bxc5 h6 41.Kf4 Rc8 42.Kxf5 Rxc5+ 43.Ke6 Re5+ 44.Kxe5 Kf7 45.Rxa7 hxg5 46.Rd8 g6 47.e8Q#

Be3:
(#12) Depth: 34/49 00:13:22 1209mN
36.hxg6 Rf2+ 37.Kg3 hxg6 38.Rxe3 Rf1 39.Rxa7 Ke8 40.e7 c5 41.Bd7+ Kf7 42.Bc6 Kg8 43.Bd5+ Kh7 44.Kg2 Rf2+ 45.Kxf2 Rf8+ 46.exf8N+ Kh8 47.Rh3#

Bf2:
(#12) Depth: 36/62 00:34:05 5410mN
36.Kg2 Rc1 37.Rf4+ Ke8 38.Rxf2 Rc4 39.Kh3 Rc2 40.Rff7 Rd2 41.Rxd2 Rd8 42.Rdd7 Rxd7 43.exd7+ Kxf7 44.d8Q gxh5 45.Qd7+ Kf8 46.Be6 h6 47.Qf7#

Bg1+:
(#17) Depth: 39/60 00:37:58 9114mN
36.Kg2 Rf5 37.Bxf5 gxf5 38.Re5 Ke8 39.Kxg1

Other lines previously solved:
35...Ba5: #13

35...Bc5: #11 36.bxc5 gxh5 37.Kg2 hxg4 38.Kxf1 Ke8 39.Rxa7 h6 40.gxh6 Ra8 41.Rxa8+ Ke7 42.hxg7 Kf6 43.g8Q Kf5 44.Qxg4+ Kf6 45.e7 Kf7 46.Rf8#

35...Bc7: #11 36.Rxc7 gxh5 37.e7+ Ke8 38.Bd7+ Kf7 39.Rc8 Rxc8 40.Bxc8 Rf2+ 41.Kg3 Rf3+ 42.Kxf3 Ke8 43.Bb7 g6 44.Bxc6+ Kf7 45.e8Q+ Kg7 46.Re7#

This leaves Bd8 as the only bishop move we don't have an explicit mate announcement for. Most, if not all of these lines can probably be improved - I moved on to the next as soon as I saw a mate declaration.

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