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|Jul-25-14|| ||Phony Benoni: Hadn't noticed before today that the Verterans Committee chose Tony LaRussa, Joe Torre, and Bobby Cox for the Hall of Fame. Certainly merited in LaRussa's case, and probably for Torre and Cox. And it's certainly appropriate that they go in together, all having five-decade managerial careers almost completely overlapping.|
|Jul-25-14|| ||Jim Bartle: All three very deserving.|
|Jul-25-14|| ||WannaBe: Anyone know who Steve Karsay is???
|Jul-25-14|| ||Travis Bickle: Hey Phony, The Bears are in training camp down in Bourbonnais! ; P|
LB Lance Briggs
DE Jared Allen
|Jul-25-14|| ||Travis Bickle: Hey Phony, they should have double headers in football!|
|Jul-25-14|| ||Phony Benoni: Hey, Travis, how come it's snowing at training camp?|
|Jul-25-14|| ||Travis Bickle: <Phony Benoni: Hey, Travis, how come it's snowing at training camp?> Mr Benoni, coach Trestman took the Bears to the North Pole for no interruptions & to toughen up the new Draft Picks!|
|Jul-26-14|| ||WannaBe: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...|
|Jul-26-14|| ||WannaBe: Here's something interesting, Dodgers pounded out 15 hits in their win Friday night over the Giants (Including 5 triples and a double).|
The weird thing is, 3 players (out of the 9, if you count pitcher) went 0 for 5. Fifteen hits and 1/3 of your lineup went hitless.
|Jul-26-14|| ||perfidious: In Jayson Stark's column two days ago, he devoted the Astounding Facts of the Week section to Madison Bumgarner--for reasons which had nothing to do with his pitching.|
<....Bumgarner is just the second pitcher in history to hit two grand slams in one year. The other was the Braves' Tony Cloninger in 1966. Want to guess how many slams all Braves pitchers have combined for in the 48 years since Cloninger hit two? ZERO. Of course.>
Bit surprised that Stark did not realise that Cloninger hit his in the same game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/b...
|Jul-26-14|| ||Jim Bartle: That Cloninger boxscore gives a good indication why the Giants didn't win in 1966. Jesus Alou leading off with his .290 on-base average, and leftfielder Len Gabrielson hitting about the same. That left only four real hitters in the lineup.|
|Jul-26-14|| ||perfidious: <Jim> As it was, Giants' expected won-loss record was 86-75, which they outperformed by seven wins. Some managers fall in love with the player who can run, but it helps if they actually get on base once in a while too. What a waste--two HOFers in the lineup, but Giants never did anything after fluking the '62 pennant and that crushing loss in Game Seven.|
|Jul-26-14|| ||Jim Bartle: I don't tink 1962 was a fluke overall, just that they came from four games back in the last week. It was the Dodgers who lucked out with their no-hit offense in 65 and 66!|
Giants in 65-68 had Mays, McCovey, Hart and Haller, a fearsome heart of the order. Problem was they had no hitting at second, short, left or right. I think Bill James called Hal Lanier the worst hitting regular ever, or something similar.
I guess that game seven loss was crushing for a lot of fans, but no big deal to us kids. First, it was a day game on a school day, so none of us saw it. And second, interest in the Series had dropped off since there had been a terrible rainstorm in the Bay Area that delayed the last two games for several days.
|Jul-26-14|| ||perfidious: <Jim> With anything less than that rotation fronted by Koufax and Drysdale, Dodgers don't win anything. 'Course, they almost did not in '65 and the worm turned the next year.|
|Jul-26-14|| ||Jim Bartle: We kids, and lots of adults, too, screamed every day in 1965 and 1966 ow the Dodgers didn't have any hitters, that they scored runs only with bloopers and infield hits on that rockhard infield. Their 13-game winning streak in September of 1965 (after SF had opened up a lead with a 14-game streak) drove us nuts, as they seemed to get luckier in each game.|
We never complained about their pitching, though. Except for that Phil Regan who doctored the ball!
|Jul-26-14|| ||OhioChessFan: <JB> the Braves of the 90's did that too. Absolutely drove me out of my mind.|
|Jul-26-14|| ||Jim Bartle: They had some OK pitchers as well.
But at least they had Chipper Jones, David Justice, and Fred McGriff, real hitters all.
|Jul-27-14|| ||Phony Benoni: The old 4-3-2 double play.
I know you can get a big lead off second when the shift is on, but that was certainly pushing his luck.
|Jul-27-14|| ||perfidious: Braves had a terrific run, which we may never see the likes of again, but their Waterloo was hitting in the postseason. Bit more production might have garnered those teams more than the one WS ring.|
|Jul-27-14|| ||WannaBe: Re: Braves, maybe it was those 3-days rest...
|Jul-27-14|| ||perfidious: Second season in the minors, at A ball, Greg Maddux 'ran out of gas', according to a scouting report:|
|Jul-28-14|| ||OhioChessFan: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...|
|Jul-28-14|| ||Phony Benoni: You know, at that level it's really easy for a catcher to let a pitch get past him. Just saying.|
|Jul-28-14|| ||Jim Bartle: While looking for videos of umpires getting hit (there are some nasty ones) I found this of Brett Lawrie throwing his helmet at the umpire.|
But look at the two strike calls. The first pitch was a bit outside, but it wasn't a terrible call. And Lawrie did run toward first, considered showing up the umpire.
The second (third) strike was clearly an intentionally bad call. No way it was a strike and the ump called it out of spite. I've never seen that so clearly. Lawrie shouldn't have thrown his helmet (I assume he was suspended), but he was right to argue.
|Jul-28-14|| ||WannaBe: While listening to the LAD-SF game last night, the announcers for Giants, the pitchers/batters on both sides weren't too pleased with home plate umpire either. Alfonso Marquez.|
Johnny Miller kept on teasing Alfonso, saying batters rate him C-, while pitchers give him A+. You never know if the pitch is going to be ball or strike.
During one inning, Miller even went on to say Alfonso is a "Coin-Toss Umpire", he toss a coin and if head, strike.
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