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"My cousin Sammy told me a true slugger - a Szeged slugger - will always swing for the fences, and that is exactly what I am going to do. I am going to knock Kramnik out of the room with my 'home run punch.' My trainer and I have been developing it in camp. I just hope Vladimir's head is screwed on tight or it may end up on top of the demonstration board!" Game Collection: Lékó - Fireless and Boring?

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Current position of my game against <ahmadov>:

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White: ahmadov
Black: SwitchingQuylthulg

1.d4 Nc6 2.e4 d5 3.e5 h5 4.Nf3 Bf5 5.c3 Nh6 6.Bb5 e6 7.0-0 Be7 8.h3 g5 9.Bd3 g4 10.Nh2 gxh3 11.g3 Bg5 12.Kh1 Bxc1 13.Qxc1 Bxd3 14.Rd1 Be4+ 15.Kg1 h4 16.Qf4 f5 17.exf6 hxg3 18.fxg3 Qd6 19.Qxd6 cxd6 20.Nd2 Kd7 21.c4 Rag8 22.Kf2 Ng4+ 23.Nxg4 Rxg4 24.Nf3 h2 25.Rh1 Bxf3 26.Kxf3 Rxd4 0-1

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   SwitchingQuylthulg has kibitzed 8531 times to chessgames   [more...]
   May-27-16 SwitchingQuylthulg chessforum
SwitchingQuylthulg: That was a silly mistake by me :)
   May-27-16 Penguincw chessforum
SwitchingQuylthulg: The complete Finnish roster ( ) for the World Cup has been named now, with 19 NHL players, 2 KHL players and 2 Finnish League players (and including 10 players from the World Championships team). Laine and another 2016 World Junior ...
   May-27-16 Annie K. chessforum (replies)
SwitchingQuylthulg: I like the position after 26...Ra2. Material is equal, but... ;-) [Event "rated blitz match"] [Site "Free Internet Chess Server"] [Date "2016.05.27"] [Round "?"] [White "NN"] [Black "Quylthulg"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "1861"] [BlackElo "2057"]
   May-27-16 Golden Executive chessforum (replies)
SwitchingQuylthulg: Round 2 games have started.
   May-27-16 OhioChessFan chessforum (replies)
SwitchingQuylthulg: Round 2 games have started.
   May-27-16 Tarrasch vs Gunsberg, 1890 (replies)
SwitchingQuylthulg: The removed game was a bad version of Blackburne vs Gunsberg, 1887 .
   May-26-16 Biographer Bistro (replies)
SwitchingQuylthulg: Ideally all such names should have the umlauts, yes. Unfortunately, there have been technical problems with including umlauts and other non-English characters in Chessgames player names. CG has experimented with them at times; François André Philidor is a relic, but other
   May-26-16 chessforum (replies)
SwitchingQuylthulg: <zanzibar> The history of the Schallopp vs. Gossip game is more complicated than that. Originally, this database had two copies of the game - one dated 1900 and ending with 17.Qxh6+ Kg8 18.Qg5+ Kh7 19.Rh6#, and one dated 1890 and ending with 16...Kg7 - neither of ...
   May-26-16 lostemperor chessforum (replies)
SwitchingQuylthulg: 1. Caruana 2. Karjakin 3. Harikrishna 4. Mamedyarov 4. Radjabov 4. Giri 7. Eljanov 8. Hou 8. Safarli 8. Mamedov
   May-09-16 Shams chessforum (replies)
SwitchingQuylthulg: I don't see anything decisive against 1...Rd8 2.Bf4 Nf1+ 3.Qxf1 Qxf4+ 4.Kh1, or for that matter 3.Kh1. 1...Re3 looks good, though.
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  Penguincw: Hello <Switch>. Congrats on placing top 10 in the ChessBookie leg, and good luck hosting the next leg.

BTW: I just came across this video about Finnish education. What are your thoughts on this video?

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <Penguincw> The Finnish education system isn't really very good; if it works better than other systems, that only shows schools elsewhere are really super-bad. There's a lot of room for improvement.
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  Penguincw: Ah, I see. But all the perks of Finnish education, are they at least true? Or have times changed since you've been to school? (curiosity)
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: I'm not sure exactly what the supposed perks of Finnish education are; and yes, times have probably changed since I was in school. If nothing else, phones and computers are used in school quite a bit now, which wasn't the case back then. But a lot of things are probably also still the same or similar.

It is true that school days in Finland are shorter than in many other places, and that there are plenty of recesses; and that's very probably a key factor in why the Finnish system works. It's not true, though, that Finnish kids are particularly motivated to learn or happy to be in school; and the system doesn't work for the really talented kids at all. (Finland? How many Nobel prizes? For that matter, how many top Finns in any field? Other than ice hockey, which at least here was part of the curriculum.)

In my school days I certainly felt like there was way too much homework; though you could probably get away with not actually doing it more easily than in many other places, since the teachers let a lot of things slide then and now. Unfortunately, that sometimes includes things they shouldn't let slide.

It certainly isn't true that Finnish schoolchildren have any real respect for their teachers; and I never saw much of a reason why they should have done, since most of them weren't really very competent. I doubt that has improved since my time.

It happened quite a few times in my days that various teachers (regular or substitute) didn't have anything to say to us and resorted to showing random movies that didn't have anything to do with the curriculum. Admittedly that was fun and did genuinely increase the kids' enjoyment; and for a change, many of them actually paid attention. But it didn't help anybody learn anything.

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  centralfiles: Do you play Sicilian as black?
Do you meet c3 with ...Nf6?
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <centralfiles> Sorry, no; I only play 1...b6 and 1...Nc6.
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  centralfiles: oh well then
May-06-16  virginmind: I think the fun aspect should be paramount to any system of education. It's much better to present the kids with movies and other activities, in order for them to find out if they happen to like and/or have fun dealing with one subject matter or another. Better than to force the kids to learn a lot of things which, as it happens, they don't particulary like or feel attracted to.

All this with a view to later education (university) and the future job: continue to learn what you like and genuinely feel attracted to, and then work in such domain - with great results, both for the employer (when you're doing what you like, generally the results will be good/great) and for the employee (happiness to be payed for doing what you like, and you would have done anyway).

As opposed to what, unfortunately, happen a lot of times nowadays and also in the past: being forced to learn what you don't like, getting to dislike/hate school in the process, later choosing a certain field of study for reasons other than pleasure and attractiveness, and ending with spending your life doing what you don't like - at work. All or most of your life. Some manage to change their wrongly chosen field of study/work, sooner or later, but I think most of us don't. The result being unhappiness and illness.

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  luftforlife: <Switch>: Hope you're well. I'm woefully ignorant of software and programming, and I know you know as much as anyone about the database, so I have two questions for you.

I'm working on some player-bio and game-entry corrections, and I was wondering: if a correction slip is approved, and a player's name is corrected by an admin in the header of the player bio, does that eventually work an automatic change in the PGN-header entries for that player's name in games listed under that player's bio (and under that player's opponents' bios)? I don't know if this kind of propagation is standard fare. It makes sense that it would be, for the formatting of PGN-header data-entries presumably is strict for a reason, and presumably the PGN-name-header data-entries are keyed to the players' names in their bios, but I just don't know.

Also, can you please explain why the example featured at the bottom of the PGN Upload Utility instructs submitters to format a player's name as, e.g., "Bird, Henry E," yet the PGN for the actual game as accepted reveals the name as "Henry Edward Bird"? Here's the actual game at variance with the PGN Upload Utility example: Bird vs Steinitz, 1866. I don't mean my question to seem pointed; what I mean is, if the convention should be first name--middle initial/middle name--last name, would it be possible please to update the PGN-header example in the PGN Upload Utility to reflect the actual practice? This would aid submitters and admins both, and obviate the need for admins to reorder submitted player-name-entries that follow the convention iterated in the example (which convention in the possibly outmoded example I believe to be similar to the ChessBase convention, except for the space after the comma, which is omitted from ChessBase entries). I'm a dutiful guy, and so I follow the example, but if I should ignore it and proceed otherwise, I'll be happy to do so. Please advise.

Thanks very much for fielding these questions; I'm a neophyte in these areas. Best regards.

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <luftforlife: I'm working on some player-bio and game-entry corrections, and I was wondering: if a correction slip is approved, and a player's name is corrected by an admin in the header of the player bio, does that eventually work an automatic change in the PGN-header entries for that player's name in games listed under that player's bio (and under that player's opponents' bios)? I don't know if this kind of propagation is standard fare. It makes sense that it would be, for the formatting of PGN-header data-entries presumably is strict for a reason, and presumably the PGN-name-header data-entries are keyed to the players' names in their bios, but I just don't know.>

They are automatically updated, but not immediately; there's a normalizing program ("fixpgn") that will get around to it eventually.

<Also, can you please explain why the example featured at the bottom of the PGN Upload Utility instructs submitters to format a player's name as, e.g., "Bird, Henry E," yet the PGN for the actual game as accepted reveals the name as "Henry Edward Bird"?>

The example could and maybe should be changed; but I think CG's software is smart enough to automatically recognize "Bird, Henry Edward" and (almost certainly "Bird, Henry E." as well) as being the same person as "Henry Edward Bird", so neither name order should cause the admins any extra work. There's no need to follow the example strictly, but also no need not to.

(Incidentally, while the example PGN has an "ECO" field and the actual game PGN also has an "ECO" field, you don't need to worry about that field at all when you upload games; CG will compute the game's ECO code automatically no matter what you do. Trying weird things like [ECO "bunny rabbit"] to test the system is not recommended, though.)

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  luftforlife: <Switch>: Thanks very much for your answers. I'm glad to learn of PGN name normalization (I know it takes some time), and to learn that either name order works, and neither occasions any extra work for the admins. I do always omit the ECO Code in accordance with the example, for I know (as you've confirmed) CG's software determines the code automatically. Thanks again.
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  luftforlife: <Switch>: Hello again; hope you're well. Not sure if you know the answer to this question, but here goes: in submitting a correction slip seeking correction of a player's name in the bio header, is it necessary or advisable to insert links in the correction slip itself to sources of documentary evidence supporting the correction, if one has already done so in the kibitzing? I'm happy to take the step of inserting links to evidence in the correction slip itself (sometimes I do this; sometimes I simply advert to the kibitzing), if taking that step would make it easier for the admins. Thanks very much.
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <luftforlife> The short version: reposting the links in the slip is not necessary, but I would say it is advisable as long as you don't overdo it.

The long version: I generally put all the links/sources in the slip; but then, most of the time I put them only in the slip and not in the kibitzing at all, so the situation doesn't arise. It sometimes happens that other people have posted the links/sources before I submit the slip, and in those cases I generally say something like "[error]; [fix]; see N's post", while also briefly giving the main links/sources unless I'm feeling particularly lazy.

The reason for my slip-only approach is that most of my correction slips concern cheap, fairly simple errors; in such cases the slip-only approach is generally the best, I think, and also the one the admins like to see the most. An additional post will only serve to permanently document an old error, and confuse new readers who come to the page later when the error isn't there.

In more complicated cases where serious research is involved, it's of course better to also show your work in the kibitzing; not to mention that the post will serve to clarify the situation in case the slip slips through the cracks and the error is not fixed. It's happened to me that I've posted sources in the slip only and later completely forgotten what those sources were.

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  luftforlife: <Switch>: Thanks very much. I know whereof you write; the vestigial remains of corrections proposed in kibitzes can create confusion after those corrections have been made. Your observation in your thoughtful reply points up a distinction between simple errors and more complicated cases requiring serious research. Sometimes, as some other members do, I use the reader commentary as a sounding-board, and as a repository of the results of evolving research undertaken with colleagues in cracking hard cases, and those commemorations do prove useful come correction-time.

One of my favorite aspects of CG is collaborating with fellow members in solving mysteries, each of us making our own contributions in the kibitzing and augmenting each the others' strengths as we work towards a common goal that might have some lasting benefit for all. Working as part of a team with venerable and estimable members like <Tab> and <Phony Benoni>, or <sachistu> and <Annie K.>, is a real privilege, and always a happy occasion, and I relish and cherish those experiences. :) So much fun!

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  luftforlife: <Switch>: Hello again. :) Two quick questions about PGN upload-submissions:

First, if one or both players of a game submitted for upload have player bios here, should I link those entries into the Name field(s) in the PGN header, or, instead, should I simply spell out the names of the player(s)?

Second, if a player wishes to provide annotation of a game he or she has played, can that be added later, or must it be included with the PGN header and moves at the time of submission?

Thanks very much; I hope you're well. All the best.

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <luftforlife>

1. Simply give the player's name. Never give a link/URL; if there's a risk of confusion with another player in the database who has the same name or a similar name, you can either note that in the comments section - the best solution for players that <don't> have player pages yet - or use the "ChessgamesWhiteID" and "ChessgamesBlackID" tags to identify the specific player. ("WhiteFideId"/"BlackFideId" might also work, but Chessgames IDs are a safer and usually simpler pick.)

Here's an example of how ChessgamesWhiteID and ChessgamesBlackID work:

[Event "Valencia"]
[Site "Valencia ESP"]
[Date "1475.??.??"]
[EventDate "1475.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Francesco di Castellvi"]
[Black "Narciso Vinyoles"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[ChessgamesWhiteID "80101"]
[ChessgamesBlackID "80102"]

1.e4 {This game may be the oldest recorded game of chess.} 1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.Bc4 Nf6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.h3 Bxf3 7.Qxf3 e6 8.Qxb7 Nbd7 9.Nb5 Rc8 10.Nxa7 Nb6 11.Nxc8 Nxc8 12.d4 Nd6 13.Bb5+ Nxb5 14.Qxb5+ Nd7 15.d5 exd5 16.Be3 Bd6 17.Rd1 Qf6 18.Rxd5 Qg6 19.Bf4 Bxf4 20.Qxd7+ Kf8 21.Qd8# 1-0

Note that the "ChessgamesWhiteID" and "ChessgamesBlackID" tags are used in addition to, not instead of, the "White" and "Black" tags.

2. Include the annotations right away; if necessary, they can be added later, but that's extra work for the admins. Be sure to explain where you got the annotations and why Chessgames is allowed to use them, so the admins know that they're not violating copyright.

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  Annie K.: ...and in case you don't know how to find out a player's Chessgames ID: visit their page - their number is the one at the end of the page's URL. ;)

<Switch> waitaminute, isn't the order WhiteChessgamesID and BlackChessgamesID? :)

(as per chessforum (kibitz #19896))

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <Annie> Originally they were "WhiteChessgamesID" and "BlackChessgamesID", yes; but ChessgamesWhiteID and ChessgamesBlackID are standard now, I think. At any rate, those are the forms that actually appear in CG files.
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  Annie K.: Well, I never tried to use either, so no actual experience there. :)

Btw, according to the same post, these lines are not supposed to appear in the uploaded pgn?

<• This tag will not appear on the PGN once it is inserted into the Chessgames database; it's only an intermediate measure to be used when uploading.>

<luft> note that <cg> also says that it's best to use these tags only in cases where there's a real danger of ambiguity, and not regularly.

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: The ChessgamesWhiteID and ChessgamesBlackID tags don't appear in all PGN files, but they do appear in Zipfile Archive PGN.
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  Annie K.: Aha! Thanks. That's interesting. :)

Hmm, maybe the script can recognize both versions then, or maybe it would be a good idea to ask <cg> about it sometime.

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  luftforlife: <Switch> <Annie K.>: Thanks very much! I will only use the ChessgamesWhiteID and ChessgamesBlackID tags where there is risk of confusion; I won't routinely use them. The particular contemplated annotations to which I adverted would be new ones created by one of the players of a game for inclusion with the game here on CG. I'm sensitive to copyright issues, and I made sure to familiarize myself with CG's policies in this regard, and so I would always secure express permission from the holder of the copyright before including any copyrighted annotations in any PGN upload submissions, and I would always spell out in any annotated submissions whence I obtained the annotations and why CG would be allowed to use them. I'm with you there, and I'm glad you made that point, and I'm really grateful to you both for your answers. :)
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  WinKing: Hi <SwitchingQuylthulg>!

Coming soon Shamkir 2016 (Gashimov Memorial Tournament)!!!

♘Shamkir 2016♘ Gashimov Memorial ♗Shamkir 2016♗

This tournament will run from May 26th thru June 4th 2016.

Participants include: Fabiano Caruana, Anish Giri, Sergey Karjakin, Pentala Harikrishna, Pavel Eljanov, Shakhriyar Mamedyarov, Teimour Rajabov, Eltaj Safarli, Hou Yifan & Rauf Mamedov


<<> Shamkir 2016! (Gashimov Memorial) <>>

< 3 Prediction Contests: (Win virtual medals - Gold, Silver & Bronze) >

User: lostemperor - Predict the order the players will finish. (3 categories to medal in)

User: Golden Executive - Predict the result 1-0, 1/2, or 0-1 (3 categories to medal in)

This year will be the 10th Anniversary for this contest! (from 2007 to 2016 - 10 years running)

User: OhioChessFan - Predict the result 1-0, 1/2, or 0-1 & the number of moves. (4 categories to medal in)

***<Golden Executive> & <chessmoron> have confirmed they will be running their contests for this event. I am hoping that <lostemperor> will be running his as well.***


Also don't forget about <chessgames> ChessBookie game for this event. He can't wait to take some or all of your chessbucks. ;)

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Don't miss out on the fun for this Super Event!!!

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  Penguincw: Hey <Switch>. Quick question: what happened to the 4 refunded bets in R2? They look fine to me. Just wondering. Thanks. :)
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: That was a silly mistake by me :)
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