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|Sep-27-17|| ||TheAlchemist: Look, I gave you a lot of leeway and I really tried to be patient, you can't deny that. I don't really feel like explaining myself again, but don't pin this all on me. I asked you multiple times to not use MQ for your agenda and still you kept at it and let your fights spill over there. If I'm wrong, it will continue to be a mess and as I've said, I will apologize if that happens.|
I am tired of dealing with this and frankly I don't feel like racking my brain about what to do anymore. This was the most clear cut solution, we'll see how effective it proves.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have Adolf on line 2. Auf Wiedersehen.
|Sep-27-17|| ||Dr Winston OBoogie: <Now, if you'll excuse me, I have Adolf on line 2. Auf Wiedersehen.>|
I like you really Uros (in the same way I like Bobsterman3000) but OMG do you fall for the same dumb ass tricks <everytime!>. Just ban me from the MQ page because from now on they go in my bio :)
|Sep-27-17|| ||TheAlchemist: <you shouldn't be moderating the page>|
Until certain someones made it into a fighting pit I didn't have to! For almost 10 years. Let that sink in.
Maybe I shouldn't. But nobody is stopping others from starting/using their own forums. Let the "free market", as it were, decide.
|Sep-27-17|| ||TheAlchemist: <you fall for the same dumb ass tricks <everytime!>>|
I know I'm naive, I can't always help it. I guess it's a case in point that I don't know how this relates to the current situation, at least as far as my involvement is concerned?
Bottom line, I'm not here to pick fights, I have better ways of wasting time. And I'm tired of dealing with this crap around MQ. Perhaps it was always going to degenerate after so much time, live long enough and all that jazz.
|Sep-27-17|| ||Dr Winston OBoogie: Uros. No worries mate. I couldn't care less and I <honestly> think you do a great job but I also think you don't realize I have a <criminal stalker> (Keyser Soze!) who follows me everywhere so it's hardly my fault for being so attractive;) |
It's no big deal. Ill post them in my bio
I think you're a nice fella but you're naive and prejudice. Shouldn't you be talking to https://img.memecdn.com/adolf-hitle...
|Sep-27-17|| ||TheAlchemist: Yes, well, I admit I'm not privy to a lot that's been going on around here for the past few years and I'm not sure I really want to be. I can sympathize but I'm not sure how it could help by me getting involved.|
So, should I add a I did Nazi that coming pun or something here? Not sure, it's hard to concentrate.
|Sep-27-17|| ||Dr Winston OBoogie: Uros. I'm jesting with you :)
Yeah that's right you don't know what's been going on but I actually applaud you for not giving a rats ass either way. I can't be bothered going into it because a) I don't want to bore you, b) I <genuinely> think you're a decent fella (just naive) and c) I'm going to get <even more drunk> :)
All the best Uros. From now on I'll post them in my bio :)
|Sep-28-17|| ||Check It Out: <TheAlchemist> I don't see much of who you are responding to, but I like your tone and approach. Keep on!|
|Nov-08-17|| ||Octavia: Hi, I've just cloned your draw games collection! Thanks for getting them all together! I started doing a collection of draws & then discovered that there are lots & lots & lots of collections of drawn games! I don't want to duplicate any but probably have done already. Fortunately cg always tells you if a new game I'm looking at is already in one of my collections. May be my ten are already in yours? In that case I'll delete them eventually. Thanks again!|
|Nov-08-17|| ||TheAlchemist: No problem, glad it's been of help. I haven't been updating it for a while, though, so it doesn't contain many recent ones.|
|Apr-08-18|| ||Knight13: <TheAlchemist> When people criticize, say, feminists, there are almost always people who reply with, "Not all feminists." When people criticize Nazis, there are almost never people who reply with, "Not all Nazis." Why is that?|
|Apr-08-18|| ||TheAlchemist: <Knight13> Hey, long time no see/read.|
Well, when you say "Nazi", I assume you mean today's slur and not the NSDAP (memes aside, why would anyone defend that?). But what does it even mean today, it's not a group of people, a movement or a political party, it's basically been reduced to "someone I don't agree with". My view is that if you must resort to calling someone a Nazi, you have no counter argument, even if the other person is in the wrong. Basically it's an insult and saying "not all Nazis" is like saying "not all idiots" or such.
There are actually plenty of political parties, movements, groups that have authoritarian tendencies, that think only they know best, but simply dismissing them with a Nazi label is lazy and wrong.
As for feminism, it is mainstream, considered virtuous, morally superior, so of course you will have a lot of people defending it and hoping to score some social media points on the way (I mean how can you attack such good, virtuous people, right?). It's an instinctive, reactionary defense and not a real argument, the thing is that when dealing with large groups you can only talk about averages, trends and when you try to apply those characteristics to the individual you will, inevitably, be wrong somewhere, because it's a fallacy to do so. And many seem to think that anecdotal evidence trumps statistics. Now that I think about it, the "not all" defense coming from collectivists and identitarians is a bit ironic.
|Apr-08-18|| ||TheAlchemist: <Knight13> I didn't mean to ramble so much, you probably know this already.|
|Apr-08-18|| ||moronovich: A fine read <TheAlchemist> !|
A pro pros "rambling": Do you know the song "Rambling Boy" by Tom Paxton ?
It is one of my all time favourites.
|Apr-08-18|| ||TheAlchemist: No, but I gave it a listen just now. I'm not much of a fan of folk, so it's not really my cup of tea, but the lyrics are pretty good.|
|Apr-08-18|| ||moronovich: Yes,I also find the lyrics pretty good.
I heard it for the first time when I was 19 and travelling in France and working there.So the sentimental value is dear to me.As well as rambling can be very positive.
|Apr-08-18|| ||TheAlchemist: There are also these:
|Apr-08-18|| ||Knight13: <TheAlchemist> Long time no see, yes. :-) I "ramble" as well. :p|
I was thinking along the lines of people not applying the same logic consistently across the board.
I meant Nazis as in The Third Reich, the National Socialist German Workers Party. Sorry for not clarifying. Not all Nazis were bad. Most of them were probably just normal people. Nazis are viewed so negatively compared to other authoritarian ideologies today because of what the people in power did, not the Nazi citizens that went about their day to day lives not knowing Jews were being gassed.
So people are willing to throw the entire Nazis under the bus for the morally indefensible #$% that people in power--very likely less than 10% of people in the Third Reich--did. "Not all Nazis". But when it comes to feminism, they are quick to say, "Not all feminists" even though the feminists with power and influence have damaged the relationship between men and women so much and made laws and policies biased against men in favor of women in the name of "equality." People call them "feminazis" and say they're not real feminists. With that logic, was Hitler and his cohorts not real Nazis? Regular Nazi citizens probably would've thought what Hitler & Co. did were pretty damn extreme if they were informed of what was actually going on. But we don't pull the "they were not real Nazis" or "not all Nazis" card when it comes to the National Socialists. However, we do when it comes to feminists, even though the feminists with power and influence--the equivalent of Nazi leaders--are comprised mostly of what many like to call "feminazis".
Do feminists have to kill millions of people based on race or gender before people stop saying "not all feminists" like they have with Nazis? Because you don't need that to apply the "not all _____" logic to any group.
|Apr-09-18|| ||TheAlchemist: <Knight13> Sure it is inconsistent, maybe it has something to do with one being a contemporary thing, while the other isn't (and history has judged)? Also, I suppose if you look at it pragmatically, one really has nothing to gain and much to lose by saying "not all Nazis", while saying "not all feminists" gets you social points and approval on social media. As I've said, of course the "not all" defense is technically valid because you will always find exceptions, but when talking about groups anecdotal evidence isn't a valid counterargument. Also the No True Scotsman fallacy.|
|Apr-10-18|| ||Knight13: <TheAlchemist> Good answer. Thanks!|
|Apr-14-18|| ||Knight13: <TheAlchemist> What kind of bloody games are you playing lately?|
|Apr-15-18|| ||TheAlchemist: <Knight13> Surprisingly, I have actually managed to finish a few. In the last 6 months or so I have completed Stellaris, Spellforce 3 and Prey, a bit before that Torment Tides of Numenera and Tyranny, while I didn't finish Elex because I got frustrated with the terribly slow progression.|
I am currently replaying Pillars of Eternity with the expansion to have a save ready to import when the second one comes out, while still playing Divinity Original Sin 2 on the side.
Other than that not much, the problem is that my tastes haven't really changed much in that I have always liked games that have a lot of (good) content and require a long time to complete, while having less time to actually do that. So it gets frustrating when I need months for what took me weeks 10 years ago and sometimes I just quit. And having a mile long backlog doesn't help :-).
|Apr-18-18|| ||Knight13: <TheAlchemist> I don't know what to say. I have no idea what those games are. :-( |
(P.S. Thought I should at least respond and say something--anything--instead of just not replying, since you took the time to write the response. :-$)
|Apr-18-18|| ||TheAlchemist:  |
|Apr-18-18|| ||TheAlchemist: <Knight13> Haha, don't worry :-). There's always the option above, if you're unsure.|
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