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Chessgames Challenge: Team White vs Team Black, 2012

Regarding a post made on the chessgames.com chessforum Aug 2011: < kutztown46: Here is an idea for your consideration. ... What if a certain opening was selected (say the Benoni)? The first few moves of the game (characteristic of the opening system chosen) would be "forced" and the game would start at the end of the forced series of moves. The twist is, instead of randomly assigning participants to one of the teams, allow participants to choose which side they want to play on. Computer use could be allowed.>

We believe this to be a very good idea. This account is created for discussion about the upcoming challenge, dubbed the <Chessgames Thematic Challenge.>

SCHEDULE: Voting will close on April 21st at 11:59 pm (USA/Eastern). The winner will be announced shortly after the voting closes. The game will begin at noon, April 25th.

MORE INFO: For rules and to cast your vote, please see our Thematic Challenge Voting Page.

K K VOTING UPDATE K K

Sun Apr 22 00:00:17 EDT 2012

<The Albin Countergambit>

1 d4 d5 2 c4 e5
Votes for White: <532> | Votes for Black: 533


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<The Benko Gambit>

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c5 3 d5 b5
Votes for White: 541 | Votes for Black: <501>


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<The Modern Benoni>

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 c5
Votes for White: 592 | Votes for Black: <491>


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<The Blackmar-Diemer Gambit>

1 d4 d5 2 e4 dxe4 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 f3
Votes for White: 479 | Votes for Black: <413>


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<The Traxler Counterattack>

1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 Bc5
Votes for White: <350> | Votes for Black: 570


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<The Goering Gambit>

1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 exd4 4 c3
Votes for White: 468 | Votes for Black: <338>


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<The Evans Gambit>

1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Bc5 4 b4
Votes for White: 603 | Votes for Black: <331>


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<The Tennison Gambit>

1 Nf3 d5 2 e4 dxe4
Votes for White: <326> | Votes for Black: 420


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<The Halloween Attack>

1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 Nxe5
Votes for White: <307> | Votes for Black: 452


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<The Immortal Draw Variation>

1 e4 e5 2 Nc3 Bc5 3 Na4 Bxf2+ 4 Kxf2
Votes for White: <299> | Votes for Black: 364


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Thematic Challenge: The game is set up: Chessgames Challenge: Team White vs Team Black, 2012 Please note that even if you voted, you are NOT automatically assigned to a team quite yet. You still have to go to the page above and click on the "sign-up" link. At that point the software ...
 
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Apr-20-12
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  blue wave: <Oh no, please not the Benko.> Just for you whiteshark, I'll change from voting Benko back to Benoni. I must be mad.
Apr-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive:

Thanks for voting, Golden Executive!

You are willing to play BLACK in The Modern Benoni
You are willing to play BLACK in The Benko Gambit

Just Paint it (all) black !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Vz...

p.s. The video was just for fun

Apr-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  hoodrobin: <whiteshark: Oh no, please not the Benko!>

AWY.

Apr-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  hoodrobin: <Golden Executive: Just Paint it (all) black !>

LOL

Apr-21-12  SamAtoms1980: A few questions:

* Why is the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit so unfavorable for Black? He is a pawn up and, unlike the Göring or Danish, White's King's position is blown wide open.

* Is the Traxler Counterattack really that bad for White?

* If we end up playing a Benko, is it better for White to turn the gambit down, or scoop the pawn up and try to drive it into the endgame?

Apr-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <SamAtoms1980

<* Why is the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit so unfavorable for Black? He is a pawn up and, unlike the Göring or Danish, White's King's position is blown wide open.>>

In the hand of a patzer every opening looks bad. ;)
I think that after <4...exf3 5.Nf3 c6> black could build up a safe position and gets an easy game. I prefer a different defence, though.

Apr-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  AylerKupp: <Golden Executive> Thanks for the video. I think that the New Zealand national team has the right attitude for playing the Black side of the Benoni, Taimanov or no Taimanov.
Apr-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  AylerKupp: <All> Speaking of the Benoni and the Taimanov, here's a shameless advertisement for it. There are 2 main continuations after 8.Bb5+, 8...Nfd7 and 8...Nbd7, assuming that the game goes along the lines of 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.d5 exd5 5.cxd5 d6 6.e4 g6 7.f4 Bg7 8.Bb5+.


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8...Nfd7 is considered the "sounder" (if such a word can be applied to the Black side of the Benoni) of the two. There are 347 games in OE after 8...Nfd7 with White winning 48.1%, Black winning 26.8%, and 25.1% draws. 8...Nbd7 is considered semi-suicidal but Black's statistics are actually better in the 49 games in the OE database; White wins 48.1%, Black wins 36.7%, and 22.4% draws. And the resulting positions for both lines are certainly in the spirit of this Thematic Challenge.

If you have some time, try looking over at some of the games before today's voting deadline.

Apr-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  AylerKupp: And, speaking of last minute vote changes, here are my current preferences, in case anyone cares:

WHITE in the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit
WHITE in the Evans Gambit
WHITE in the Goering Gambit
WHITE in the Halloween Attack
WHITE in the Tennison Gambit

BLACK in the Albin Countergambit
BLACK in the Benko Gambit
BLACK in the Immortal Draw Variation
BLACK in the Modern Benoni
BLACK in the Traxler Counterattack

I just wanted to give everyone the chance to change their votes if it looks like we might be on the same team so that they can avoid being subjected to my overly verbose and usually meaningless posts. :-) Of course, there's always the Ignore button. :-)

BTW, if you're wondering why I left out the "You are willing to play " it's because I wanted each opening to be on a different line without being separated by blank lines. Chessgames.com indicated that "The rules with spacing and double-spacing are hard to figure out, to put it mildly", see chessgames.com chessforum. The "magic" number of characters on a line to prevent ignoring the line break seems to be 52. If the number of words is 53 or more, it will treat the line break as a space and word wrap. No, please don't ask me why. But at least this post now has some useful information.

Apr-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  AylerKupp: Good grief, I can't even copy the numbers right from OE. Corrected number of games and percentages for the Benoni Taimanov Attack following 8.Bb5+:

8...Nfd7: 343 games, 48.1% white wins, 26.8% black wins, 25.1% draws.

8...Nbd7: 49 games, 40.8% white wins, 36.7% black wins, 22.4% draws.

Now that makes it 2 posts in a row with useful information.

Apr-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Thematic Challenge: Ahoy!

I've just posted the final tally before voting is closed at 11:59 pm tonight (that's less than 3 hours from now).

A come-from-behind victory seems to be in store for that wild and wooly Albin Countergambit. But it's not too late for the tides to turn, so hurry up and get your votes in if you haven't already.

Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Thematic Challenge: It's official! The game will begin 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e5! Good luck Albin Countergambiteers.

Please give us a little time to set-up the Challenge. The banner on the homepage will switch to that game.

Apr-22-12  SamAtoms1980: <in David Seville voice>

AAALLLLLLBBIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNN!!!

Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <AK: The "magic" number of <<characters>> on a line to prevent ignoring the line break seems to be 52. If the number of <<words>> is 53 or more, it will treat the line break as a space and word wrap. >

Is it possible the tendency for your posts to ummmmmmmm have a lot of words indicative of your confusing characters and words?

Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: When I posted <Oh no, please not the Benko.> I have had something different in mind than activating the Albin Gambiteers. Well, <clear the decks for action <!!>>

:D

Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  AylerKupp: <OhioChessFan> It's not only possible but certain. Then again, as everyone who knows me be now will readily agree, I never use a simple character when a lengthy word will do. :-)

Then again, I did say that the characters were "magic". So they obviously can transform themselves into words when it suits their mood.

Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  AylerKupp: <whiteshark> As the old saying goes, "Be careful what you ask for, you might get it." So "Cry havoc!, and let slip the dogs of war""
Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Thematic Challenge: The game is set up:

Chessgames Challenge: Team White vs Team Black, 2012

Please note that even if you voted, you are NOT automatically assigned to a team quite yet. You still have to go to the page above and click on the "sign-up" link. At that point the software will consult your voting record and assign you to either Team White or Team Black as appropriate.

Also note that this forum is NOT for discussing the game in progress. The only appropriate place to discuss the game in progress is the secret team-only discussion forums at the link above.

However if you have a question or problem with the software (i.e., not related to any specific position or move) feel free to ask it here.

The game starts at noon on April 25th. Good luck to both teams!

Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: Do I get 10 votes for each move?
Apr-22-12  frogbert: ocf, it depends which team you're on.
Apr-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  capafan: Administrator: This may not be the appropriate place for this comment, but I know of no other place to voice the comment. My votes were submitted **all** for white and I have been assigned to Team Black??! Did the rationale for assigning players to either side change?
Apr-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <capa> I put in a special request to have you as a teammate.

<Thematic Challenge> a link to the new game at Chessgames Challenge would be nice.

Apr-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cro777: <OhioChessFan: <capa> I put in a special request to have you as a teammate.> I did the same but <OCF> used a dedicated Administrator connection.
Apr-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <Good luck, <Team White>!>

(You'll need it.:D)

Apr-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cro777: Good luck, Team Black!

The best thing to give to yourself is to respect your opponents enough to play 100 percent the whole time.

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