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WinKing
Member since Jan-26-09
The <chessgames> World Team picks up its 6th win. The World team's record now stands at:

<<>6 wins 4 draws & 0 losses<>>

Chessgames Challenge: The World vs Naiditsch, 2014


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The World(White) vs. GM Arkadij Naiditsch(Black) - (Anti-Berlin System C65)

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.d3 Bc5 5.c3 0-0 6.0-0 d6 7.Nbd2 Ne7 8.d4 exd4 9.cxd4 Bb6 10.Re1 Bg4 11.h3 Bh5 12.a3 Bg6 13.Ba4(1st ext.) d5 14.e5 Ne5 15.Nxe4
dxe4 16.Nh4 Qxd4 17.Qxd4 Bxd4 18.Bg5 Nc6 19.Nxg6 fxg6 20.Rxe4(2nd ext.) Bxf2+ 21.Kh2 Rf5 22.Bd2 Rd8 23.Bb4 Nxb4 24.axb4 c6 25.e6 Rb8 26.Rd1(3rd ext.) Kf8 27.g4 Rf6 28.g5 Rf5 29.Rd7 b5 30.Bd1(4th ext.) Bb6 31.Bg4 Rf2+ 32. 32.Kg3 Rf1 33.h4 Rg1+ 34.Kh2 Rf1 35.h5 Ke8 36.Rxg7(5th ext.) GM Naiditsch resigned the game on his 36th move. **********

http://www.jepflast.com/chesstree/n... - The Analysis Tree ____________________________
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< Hall of Famers List - (**All 3 contests**) (Updated Apr.27, 2015) >

Contests - (cm=chessmoron), (YR-YouRang), (le=lostemperor)

(TLS=The Last Straw contest is no longer active)

(G=Gold Medal)

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<Alphabetical list of HOF's with all Golds listed below:>

ahmadov - 1G-YR, 1G-le (2 Golds)

amadeus - 1G-cm, 1G-YR, 2G's-le (4 Golds)

Appaz - 1G-le

Aurora - 4G's-le

babakova - 1G-le

Barok Espinosa - 2G's-YR

benjinathan - 1G-le

blade2012 - 7G's-YR

Blunderdome - 2G's-YR

chancho - 2G's-cm, 1G-YR (3 Golds)

chesssantosh - 1G-YR

CHESSBOOKIE - 1G-le

chessmoron - 23G's-cm, 9G's-YR, 3G's-le (35 Golds)

Civhai - 1G-YR

cromat - 3G's-YR, 3G's-le (6 Golds)

cu8sfan - 2G's-cm, 1G-le (3 Golds)

DCP23 - 2G's-cm, 2G's-YR, 1G-le (5 Golds)

Diademas - 1G-le

djmercury - 1G-le

Ezzy - 2G's-le

firebyrd - 1G-le

Golden Executive - 6G's-cm, 5G's-YR, 2G-le 1G-TLS (14 Golds)

hitman84 - 2G's-YR

imag - 6G's-cm, 1G-YR (7 Golds)

iron maiden - 2G's-cm, 2G's-YR (4 Golds)

jameskobe - 2G's-cm

Joshka - 1G-le

juan31 - 1G-cm, 2G's-YR, 1G-le (4 Golds)

just a kid - 3G's-cm

karpkasp - 2G's-YR

Karposian - 6G's-cm, 4G's-YR (10 Golds)

kellmano - 1G-le

keypusher - 1G-cm

kolobok - 4G's-YR

larrewl - 1G-le

Legend - 11G's-YR

LIFE Master AJ - 1G-YR

Like a GM - 1G-le

lmreith - 2G's-YR

lostemperor - 12G's-cm, 11G's-YR, 3G's-le (26 Golds)

messachess - 5G's-YR

mikejaqua - 1G-YR, 1G-le (2 Golds)

Montreal1666 - 1G-le

moulicules - 1G-cm

NakoSonorense - 9G's-cm, 8G's-YR (17 Golds)

nfazli - 3G's-YR

NGambit - 1G-le

nimh - 2G's-YR, 1G-le (3 Golds)

OhioChessFan - 13G's-cm, 4G's-YR (17 Golds)

ooda - 2G's-YR

Penguincw - 6G's-cm, 3G's-YR, 3G's-le (12 Golds)

percyblakeney - 2G's-YR, 2G's-le (4 Golds)

PinnedPiece - 2G's-cm, 3G's-YR (5 Golds)

poorpatzer - 1G-YR

positionalgenius - 2G's-le

Ragh - 3G's-cm, 2G's-YR, 2G's-le (7 Golds)

Robin01 - 10G's-cm, 1G-YR, 1G-le (12 Golds)

rogge - 2G's-le

sakii - 1G-cm, 1G-YR (2 Golds)

SloVice - 4G's-cm, 8G's-YR, 2G's-le (14 Golds)

SnoopDogg - 1G-le

SoUnwiseTheKnight B4 - 1G-le

Stonehenge - 1G-le

su3eichfeld - 8G's-YR

suenteus po 147 - 1G-YR, 3G's-le (4 Golds)

SwitchingQuylthulg - 11G's-cm, 6G's-YR, 5G's-le, 1G-TLS (23 Golds)

Thorski - 1G-cm

Troewa - 1G-le

twinlark - 2G-cm, 1G-YR, 1G-le (4 Golds)

virginmind - 7G's-YR

WannaBe - 1G-YR, 7G's-le (8 Golds)

Where is my mind - 2G's-cm, 4G's-YR, 1G-le (7 Golds)

whiteshark - 1G-YR

WinKing - 10G's-cm, 4G's-YR, 2G's-le 1G-TLS (17 Golds)

Winter - 2G's-cm, 2G's-YR (4 Golds)

wordfunph - 12G's-cm, 2G-YR, 2G-le (16 Golds)

wtwz - 2G's-YR, 1G-le (3 Golds)

yalie - 2G's-YR, 2G's-le (4 Golds)

YouRang - 3G's-YR, 5G's-le (8 Golds)

zarg - 4G's-YR

Ziggurat - 2G's-YR

If I have made any errors or missed someone please let me know - thanks <WK>.

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Current 'Gold Medal' accomplishments in the Prediction Game Contests.

'Hat Trick' club Gold Medalists (15 Total) (Updated Apr.27, 2015)

(Have won at least 1 Gold in each of the 3 contests)

<chessmoron> <YouRang> <lostemperor>

<amadeus> 1 - 1 - 2

<chessmoron> 23 - 9 - 2

<DCP23> 2 - 2 - 1

<Golden Executive> 6 - 5 - 2

<juan31> 1 - 2 - 1

<lostemperor> 12 - 11 - 3

<Penguincw> 6 - 3 - 3

<Ragh> 3 - 2 - 2

<Robin01> 10 - 1 - 1

<SloVice> 4 - 8 - 2

<SwitchingQuylthulg> 11 - 6 - 5

<twinlark> 2 - 1 - 1

<Where is my mind> 2 - 4 - 1

<WinKing> 10 - 4 - 2

<wordfunph> 12 - 2 - 2

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'Daily Double' club Gold Medalists (20 Total) (Updated Apr.27, 2015)

(Have won at least 1 Gold in 2 of the 3 contests)

<chessmoron> <YouRang> <lostemperor>

<ahmadov> 0 - 1 - 1

<chancho> 2 - 1 - 0

<cromat> 0 - 3 - 3

<cu8sfan> 2 - 0 - 1

<imag> 6 - 1 - 0

<iron maiden> 2 - 2 - 0

<Karposian> 6 - 4 - 0

<mikejaqua> 0 - 1 - 1

<NakoSonorense> 9 - 8 - 0

<nimh> 0 - 2 - 1

<OhioChessFan> 13 - 4 - 0

<percyblakeney> 0 - 2 - 2

<PinnedPiece> 2 - 3 - 0

<sakii> 1 - 1 - 0

<suenteus po 147> 0 - 1 - 3

<WannaBe> 0 - 1 - 7

<Winter> 2 - 2 - 0

<wtwz> 0 - 2 - 1

<yalie> 0 - 2 - 2

<YouRang> 0 - 3 - 5

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'Masters' of the Prediction contests:

<<chessmoron>'s contest (12 Golds needed)>

chessmoron - 23 G's
OhioChessFan - 13 G's
lostemperor - 12 G's
wordfunph - 12 G's

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<<YouRang>'s contest (9 Golds needed)>

Legend - 11 G's
lostemperor - 11 G's
chessmoron - 9 G's

*****

<<lostemperor>'s contest (5 Golds needed)>

WannaBe - 6 G's
YouRang - 5 G's
SwitchingQuylthulg - 5 G's >>

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There have been 156 Golds distributed in <chessmoron>'s contest.

There have been 173 Golds distributed in <YouRangs>'s contest.

There have been 85 Golds distributed in <lostemperor>'s contest.

There has been 3 Golds distributed in <TheLastStraw>'s contest(now defunct).

Hall of Fame inductees by contest:

There are 29 HOF'ers in <chessmoron>'s contest.

There are 54 HOF'ers in <YouRang>'s contest.

There are 47 HOF'ers in <lostemperor>'s contest.

We have 81 Hall of Famers(in all 3 contests) winning at least one Gold medal in one *or more* of the 3 contests.

417 Gold medals(total) have been distributed.

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Hi, my name is Greg & I'm 61 years young. I have been playing chess for over 50 of those 61 years. Between the years 1968 & 1990 I was quite active. I was a member of the USCF, CCA(Cleveland Chess Association),Parma Chess Club(south of Cleveland) & captained the Gilmour Academy(Gates Mills,Ohio) chess team 1970 till 1972 when I graduated. My rating during those years(1968-90) fluctuated between 1750 to 1950. Played in the State Championship (OCC-Ohio Chess Congress) a couple of times in the 1980's with modest results (+1,-3,=2 first time & +2,-2,=2 second time). I might have done better but my style is aggressive & it often cost me points in tournaments. Since 1990 I stopped playing competitive chess & still enjoy playing but only casually. My strong suit has always been the analyses of games. I have always had a passion for the game & still do. ______________________________________________
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***Rinus Award*** : The World vs N Pogonina, 2010 ______________________________________________
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Live Chess Ratings Top Players

http://www.2700chess.com/
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< Prediction Contests: (Win virtual medals - Gold, Silver & Bronze) >

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User: YouRang - Predict the result 1-0, 1/2, or 0-1 (3 categories to medal in)

(Founded around 2003-4(?) by <cu8sfan> over 11 yrs. & running - Now the contest has been upgraded(in 2006) by <YouRang> & is run & hosted by <YouRang>)

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lostemperor chessforum - Predict the order the players will finish. (3 categories to medal in)

(Founded by <lostemperor> in 2005, over 10 years & running. - Run & hosted by <lostemperor>)

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User: OhioChessFan - Predict the result 1-0, 1/2, or 0-1 & the number of moves. (4 categories to medal in)

(Founded & run by <chessmoron> since 2008 7 yrs. & running - Hosted by <OhioChessFan>)

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   May-26-15 Wesley So (replies)
 
WinKing: We know you are on a mission GM So. 'Stay the coarse'! Go Wes!!!
 
   May-26-15 Nakamura vs Jakovenko, 2015 (replies)
 
WinKing: <Marmot PFL: Most of the pieces should be traded in a few more moves.> Yeah this looks close to 1/2 territory I'm sorry to say.
 
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WinKing: <Penguincw: I have to admit, that's a good reply.> Don't you just hate it when Santa Claus gets sarcastic...lol.
 
   May-24-15 Nakamura vs Grischuk, 2015 (replies)
 
WinKing: Not sure what to expect from this game?! Naka seems to have learned how to use a draw to his advantage in a tournament. Will he risk losing to win here? Probably not this time around.
 
   May-22-15 Caruana vs Jakovenko, 2015 (replies)
 
WinKing: 11.Qh5 new territory.
 
   May-20-15 Grischuk vs Caruana, 2015 (replies)
 
WinKing: Here we go. Don't think you'll find 8.g4 in any book.
 
   May-19-15 Caruana vs Jobava, 2015 (replies)
 
WinKing: I think I can relate to what <SirRuthless> means when he says 'moody defending' by Jobava. Another player that comes to my mind with this almost 'syndrome' like dislike for defending is Mamedyarov. I have seen him give up(resign) in some positions where I am like huh...so ...
 
   May-15-15 Tomashevsky vs Grischuk, 2015 (replies)
 
WinKing: Thanks for the broadcast <chessgames>! Even though 5 out of the 6 games were drawn today these guys look like they're fighting it out to me. Only the Svidler-Caruana affair seemed a little tame. Looking forward to the next round.
 
   May-14-15 Caruana vs L Dominguez, 2015 (replies)
 
WinKing: <Penguincw: Don't worry, I'm almost always available on the weekends. :)> Sounds like something my ex-wife used to say.
 
   May-14-15 Kibitzer's Café (replies)
 
WinKing: Message from <chessgames>. All invited!!! <chessgames.com: <kinda late now> Never too late! Caruana vs L Dominguez, 2015, open to everybody.> Live Broadcast Page Starts @ 6:00am USA/E.S.T. 5/14/15
 
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Apr-27-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: < Golden Executive: Yep, congratulations and let me make one last prediction.

At the Final Standings Prediction Game:

<Winking> 2nd place in both Absolute Ranker (score 36) and Square Ranker (score 298).

<Winking> 7th place in Pair Betting Ranker (earnings $4.55).

;) >

What, how? I don't even know how that contest works, yet you're able to predict with accuracy and precision what the final scores and standings will be. Wow.

Apr-27-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: <Penguincw: What, how? I don't even know how that contest works, yet you're able to predict with accuracy and precision what the final scores and standings will be. Wow.>

I am busy right now <Penguincw> but later I will tell you where the *magic* is. :)

Apr-27-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: <Penguincw> Let´s calculate your results at <lostemperor>´s contest for Gashimov Memorial 2015.

First, you have to calculate the Average position per player:

Your Predictions -- Your Avg. Predictions

1 Carlsen -- 1 Carlsen
2 Kramnik -- 2 Kramnik
3 Anand -- 3 Anand
4 Caruana -- 4 Caruana
5 Giri -- 6 Giri
5 Mamedyarov -- 6 Mamedyarov
5 Vachier -- 6 Vachier
8 Adams -- 9 Adams
8 Mamedov -- 9 Mamedov
8 So -- 9 So

Final Standings -- Avg.Final Standings

1 Carlsen -- 1 Carlsen
2 Anand -- 2 Anand
3 Caruana -- 3.5 Caruana
3 So -- 3.5 So
5 Mamedyarov -- 5.5 Mamedyarov
5 Kramnik -- 5.5 Kramnik
7 Vachier -- 8.5 Vachier
7 Giri -- 8.5 Giri
7 Mamedov -- 8.5 Mamedov
7 Adams -- 8.5 Adams

Second, you have to calculate, per each player, the <Absolute> deviation between your avg. predictions and the avg. final standing:

Player/ Penguin Avg. Pred - Avg.Final Stnding = <Abs. Deviation>

Carlsen 1 - 1 = <0> Caruana 4 - 3.5 = <0.5>

Giri 6 - 8.5 = <2.5>

So 9 - 3.5 = <5.5>
Anand 3 - 2 = <1>
Kramnik 2 - 5.5 = <3.5>

Vachier 6 - 8.5 = <2.5>

Adams 9 - 8.5 = <0.5>

Mamedyarov 6 - 5.5 = <0.5>

Mamedov 9 - 8.5 = <0.5>

Then <SAD> (Sum of Absolute Deviations (0+ 0.5 + 2.5+ 5.5+ 1 +3.5 +2.5 +0.5 +0.5 +0.5))= <17>

Third, you have to calculate the Absolute Value of rank Deviation Maximum score: <AVDM> = (Number of Chess Players ^ 2)/2 in this tournament: (10^2)/2 = <50>

Fourth, calculate your Absolute Ranker Score = AVDM - SAD. So 50 - 17 = <33>

Next, the SQUARE RANKER

Apr-27-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: That's great <GE>! More input...!

https://video.search.yahoo.com/vide...

Apr-27-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: C'mon <Penguincw> where you at your holding up the classroom here. ;)
Apr-27-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: <WinKing> Lol! I am still laughing.Thanks for the link.

SQUARE RANKER

Now that you have calculated your values of Absolute Deviation per player:

Player/Penguin´s Abs. Deviation

Carlsen/ 0
Caruana/ 0.5
Giri/ 2.5
So/ 5.5
Anand/ 1
Kramnik/ 3.5
Vachier/ 2.5
Adams/ 0.5
Mamedyarov/ 0.5
Mamedov/ 0.5

First, you should square each deviation:

Player/Penguin´s Abs. Deviation/Penguin´s <Squared Deviation>

Carlsen/ 0/<0>
Caruana/ 0.5/<0.25>

Giri/ 2.5/<6.25>
So/ 5.5/<30.25>
Anand/ 1/<1>
Kramnik/ 3.5/<12.25>

Vachier/ 2.5/<6.25>

Adams/ 0.5/<0.25>
Mamedyarov/ 0.5/<0.25>

Mamedov/ 0.5/<0.25>

Then <SSD> (Sum of Squared Deviations (0 + 0.25 + 6.25 + 30.25 + 1 + 12.25 + 6.25 + 0.25 + 0.25 + 0.25))= <57>

Second, you have to determine the Least Squares of rank Deviation Maximum score: <LSDM> = <330>*

Third, calculate your Square Ranker Score = LSDM - SSD. So 330 - 57 = <273>

Next: The PAIR BETTING RANKER (this is not an easy cake, so I will take some time to figure out how to explain it)

* # of chess players/Value of LSDM

6/70
8/168
<10/330>
12/572
14/910

Apr-27-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: Awesome can't wait for the 'Pair Betting Ranker' explanation. You explained it great <GE>.

I do have one question though <GE> about the Square Ranker.

< Least Squares of rank Deviation Maximum score: <LSDM> = <330>*

6/70
8/168
<10/330>
12/572
14/910 >

How did they come up with these maximum scores 70, 168, 330, 572...? Is there a formula for that?

Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: <How did they come up with these maximum scores 70, 168, 330, 572...? Is there a formula for that?>

Sure:

x= # of chess players
y= 1

((x-y))^2) + (((x-(y+2))^2)+ (((x-(y+4))^2))+ (((x-(y+6))^2) +(((x-(y+8))^2) and so on <adding 2 to "y" until you get a result = 1, then multiply the total by 2.>

Lets see, in Gashimov Memorial´s tournament were 10 chess players so:

x= 10
y= 1

((x-y))^2) = ((10-1)^2) = <81> +

(((x-(y+2))^2) = (((10-(1+2))^2) = <49> +

(((x-(y+4))^2))= (((10-(1+4)^2) =<25> +

(((x-(y+6))^2))= (((10-(1+6)^2) = <9> +

(((x-(y+8))^2))= (((10-(1+8)^2) = <1> and stop because we reached <1>

Now 81+49+25+9+1 = 165 x 2 = <330>

Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: I feel like I'm back in Algebra class. The only difference is the mileage(years).

Thanks <GE> for all of these tutorials! I love math. A 'junkie' always needs his fix. ;)

Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: < WinKing: C'mon <Penguincw> where you at your holding up the classroom here. ;) >

Hehe...

< WinKing: <Penguincw: Thanks for helping out with the Moves Prediction Contest, and congrats for winning a double crown. :)>

Thanks <Penguincw>. I was lucky in this tournament. I played a lot of 'hunches' & they worked out for me this time. It seems like winning these prediction games goes in cycles. We get hot in one tournament & then we're not in the next. Your one of the better players in these prediction games <Penguincw>. You will get hot again in future contests that is my prediction. ;) >

Thanks. :) I agree with the winning in cycles (also happens at <le>'s contest). Luckily there (should) be 2 back-to-back tournaments coming up, so all are bound to get a medal. ;)

Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: <WinKing> Yep, I also enjoy maneuvering with numbers and as a hobby actually I am learning how to write code in Visual Basic and one of my projects was to emulate the software that yoda is running.

PAIR BETTING RANKER (Part 1 of ?)

<YouRang>´s courtesy:

lostemperor chessforum (kibitz #1827)

Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: Here is the part that makes it tough <GE>.

<***Note that predicting ties is a little risky since the players must finish with the exact same score for you to win. Then again, if you're right, you have a good chance to win big.***>

I can see why software would be very helpful with this part. Trying to figure it out manually (with your brain :) ) would give you a headache. A lot to keep track of for sure.

Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: I think I get it <GE>! Can't wait to try it out on <lostemperor>'s next prediction tournament.
Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: PAIR BETTING RANKER (Part 2 of ?)

"If there are 6 players (like in MTel), there will be a total of 15 such pairings. If 8 players (like Linares), there will be 28 pairings. For 14 players (like Corus) there will be 91 such pairings!"

The formula is:

# of Pairings = n!/(2*(n-2)!)
Where n= # of chess players

So for the Gashimov Memorial 2015:
n=10

n! = 10 x 9 x 8 x 7 x 6 x 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = <3,628,800>

(n-2)! = 8! = 8 x 7 x 6 x 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 40,320

2x(n-2)! = 2 x 40,320 = <80,640>

Then # of Pairings = 3,628,800/80,640 = <45>

That means each predictor in the contest will bet a total of $45 bucks.

The number of predictors in the tournament was 20, so we will have 45 x 20 = <$900> as the amount to distribute to the winners.

p.s. What was first, the '!' in math or in chess ??

Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: <WinKing> Great you figured out! A very important thing is to convert the 'normal' predictions and final standings into an average.

When you predict, for instance, fourth chess players tied in 3rd place, what you are really predicting is fourth chess players tied in 4.5th place.

Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: <Golden Executive: p.s. What was first, the '!' in math or in chess ??>

I haven't had very many '!'s in chess. Maybe a few in math though...many years ago. ;)

Your a good teacher <GE>!

Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: I'd say math came first <GE>. I knew at a young age I loved the subject. Always had pretty good scores in the SAT tests(in the 700's range).
Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: My worst subject I am embarrassed to say was English. Only scored in the mid 500's there. :(
Apr-29-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: <Your a good teacher <GE>!>

Thanks, I am glad I could help you <WinKing>.

About the exclamation mark, I think you are right, I found this:

<The notation n! was introduced by Christian Kramp (1760-1826) in 1808>. In his Élémens d'arithmétique universelle (1808), Kramp wrote:

"Je me sers de la notation trés simple n! pour désigner le produit de nombres décroissans depuis n jusqu'à l'unité, savoir n(n - 1)(n - 2) ... 3.2.1. L'emploi continuel de l'analyse combinatoire que je fais dans la plupart de mes démonstrations, a rendu cette notation indispensable."*

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Unfortunately here in México we do not have an equivalent to your SAT system.

Funny thing is in Mexico the word SAT is sort of intimidating because is the acronym of "Sistema de Administración Tributaria" which is the equivalent for IRS in your country. So when I was reading your post and saw the SAT word, instinctively I fully opened my eyes and said whaaaaaat? :)

* Source: http://jeff560.tripod.com/stat.html

Apr-29-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: <Golden Executive; Unfortunately here in México we do not have an equivalent to your SAT system.>

We have had SAT's(tests) since the 1920's(I think). When I took them in 1972 the scores went from 200 - 800 with 500 being about average. They have changed(upgraded) this system over the years though.

<Golden Executive: Funny thing is in Mexico the word SAT is sort of intimidating because is the acronym of "Sistema de Administración Tributaria" which is the equivalent for IRS in your country.>

Well you just taught me another thing. I did not know about SAT in Mexico. I don't think anybody anywhere escapes the taxman. ;)

Apr-29-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: <WinKing: We have had SAT's(tests) since the 1920's(I think). When I took them in 1972 the scores went from 200 - 800 with 500 being about average.>

Thanks, I think I get it now.

Now I consider a honour being ranked as a good teacher!

<I don't think anybody anywhere escapes the taxman. ;)>

What else can I say?. My job is about tax planning

Apr-29-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: <Golden Executive: What else can I say?. My job is about tax planning>

From what I have seen & the way you taught me <GE> I know you give good advice. :)

Apr-30-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: Thanks my friend. :)
May-08-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: < 12. WinKing 1,872 >

Go <WinKing>! All you need is 108 more cbs, and you'll be in line to qualify for the next leg.

May-08-15
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  WinKing: I'm tired of these nickel/dime affairs <Penguincw>. Although I did enjoy a little the Russian Team Championships 2015. Bring on the 'Big Boys' tournaments coming up soon.

http://khantymansiysk2015.fide.com/ (May 13-27)

http://2015.norwaychess.com/superto... (June 15-26)

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