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   Apr-25-15 Anand vs Mamedyarov, 2015 (replies) Yes, the final round tomorrow starts one hour earlier at 5:00am USA/Eastern. The video was fairly clear that Mamedyarov made his 40th move and left to get some water or something, but we have no report yet what that move was. We assume the game continues.
   Apr-25-15 W So vs Carlsen, 2015 (replies) We'll switch to the Anand-Mamedyarov game in just a minute.
   Apr-25-15 chessforum (replies) Oh, thanks for clearing that up.
   Apr-25-15 Gashimov Memorial (2015) (replies) No catch, we just know you're watching the game anyhow, so you might as well join the VIP room if you like. Enjoy.
   Apr-25-15 Wesley So (replies) Everybody is welcome to come join us at our live broadcast page to watch W So vs Carlsen, 2015 .
   Apr-18-15 Kramnik vs W So, 2015 (replies) Sorry for the delay, we are working on it.
   Apr-07-15 Robson vs W So, 2015 (replies) Sorry for the error in the game feed: with the rook stuck on a7, this game is indeed Robson's. We hope you all enjoyed the broadcast.
   Apr-07-15 Chessgames Bookie chessforum (replies) I have a theory why that might have happened. There could be what's called a 'race condition' that manifests on rare occasions. I see by the logfiles you really did place the bet twice in rapid succession; probably an accidental double-click. Anyhow, there are methods to ...
   Apr-04-15 Svidler vs Karjakin, 2014 (replies) So sorry about the error in today's puzzle, of course it is 64...? We just corrected it.
   Apr-01-15 M Romi vs C Staldi, 1954 (replies) The solution to today's puzzle is 51.c6! = but full credit is awarded for 51.Rxa7, 51.Qd3, and a number of other solid moves where White's advanced pawns compensate for the missing rook. No credit for the queen-giveaway 51.Qh7+? which simply loses to ...Kxh7 52.f8=Q+ Kg6 ...
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Chrome, and Windows 7.

I found a step by step guide on how to get the new Java update to work in Chrome, but the steps failed to work?

I thought I bookmarked the page but I can't find it now.

I never got the option to wait- just the "java plugin does not work" banner. Should I wait three minutes after seeing the banner?

I'm not keen on waiting three minutes.

Maybe it's time to bury Java altogether. Doesn't it make your computer vulnerable to heinous attacks?

Premium Chessgames Member <Chessgames Bookie: I wouldn't mind having a <Compute Leaderboard> button> It's a very heavy process, we don't like to run it too often.

<I wonder if today was a one-time extra, a trial period, or a new schedule? :)> The new schedule is, tentatively, 9:15am, 1:15pm, 5:15pm.

<[some other Java website] works fine, and as before. My inevitable but perhaps too hasty conclusion is: It's not Jave who has screwed it up, but CG.> We have not changed CVD for years. I think it's more likely that CVD uses some Java feature, or combination of features, that is now broken, and the other websites you visit don't employ it.

The real solution here is is for some bright programmer like Nicolai, with a passion and understanding for chess, to make a new chess viewer in pure JavaScript. Until then, pgn4web actually has some merit. I occasionally switch to it in order to invoke features that CVD is missing (or have been broken by Oracle on my platform.)

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  Annie K.: <The new schedule is, tentatively, 9:15am, 1:15pm, 5:15pm.>

That's loads better, thanks! =)

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  WannaBe: <JFQ> Google Chrome does not support Java (directly). You need to follow the direction to enable java posted by <Alien Math> previous or 2 pages ago.

Believe it or not, currently, IE is your best option for Viewer Deluxe II. (Which I use. But you have to wait for it to load...)

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Thanks <MannBee> that is helpful information. I appreciate your help in all matters computer, believe me.

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  Tabanus: Ok.. well 3 minutes is too long. And pgn4web a) does not show round and date (which some may like), b) does not allow for toying with the moves.

Best we can do is "sit and wait".

Premium Chessgames Member Yes, 3 minutes might as well be 3 days. Many web applications will time out if a request isn't served in 30-60 seconds.

<pgn4web a) does not show round and date> That's an issue that I intend to address myself, by putting that information at the top/bottom when pgn4web is active. Until then, you can always click on c8 to see the entire PGN. (Or click on the link PGN: View).

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  Wayne Power: <ajile: ... And sometimes if I leave and come back the viewer has loaded after a long time.>

That eventual appearance of Deluxe 2 occurs every time with my setup, which includes Firefox and fully updated Java.

We may just have to put up with that with until Mr Spock points out the real solution.

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  Wayne Power: I should add that the pause doesn't last much more than 60 seconds. Read your email in the meantime
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  Tabanus: <CG> Yes, thanks. It's bearable with looking at only one game now and then, but several of the biographers try to work with all the games in a tournament. If you can get round and date to show in pgn4web, it would be great.
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  WannaBe: <Tabanus> How about opening multiple tabs and have each tab on a game that's being worked on?
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  WannaBe: So, I figured I'd be "Smart", uninstalled Java 8 update 45 from my Win8.1 system, and rebooted, then installed Java 8 Update 40 (The faster loading one).

Now I can't see CVD II at all. Putting V8U45 back to that system and see if the board comes back.

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  WannaBe: Super-Duper!! Nothing is working...

In Dos, "Java -version" shows the correct version, and if I check the path, I see it there, too.

When I click on a game, the Java console does not show up, no tracing, no debugging, nuthin'!!

I am going to uninstall Java clean up all folders and registry and see if I can bring it back to life. Grrrrrrrrrr

Premium Chessgames Member Here's a good experiment.

This page has some Chess Viewer Deluxe games installed on it:

To make them work, I had to whitelist

For some reason, the PGN itself is invalid, so in the end I got CVD reporting problems with the 7-tag requirement. But other than that, CVD works on that site.

What I am curious about, is if the people with interminable problems on CG experience exactly the same symptoms on this other site?

(There probably are better sites to use for testing, but this is the first one I stumbled across in Google. The official CVD site is not usable at this time for a reason unrelated to the Java upgrade.)

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  WannaBe: Loads very fast, both boards, top and bottom. A lot of Java exceptions, when I load a game here, it gives one exception, but crap loads on site.

Will see if I can figure/decipher more from the trace log.

Apr-25-15  Archaeopath: The pgn file on is not invalid. It was generated by ChessBase 11. My objective was to test pgn web viewers and so I build up a test file that challenges it (text ahead of moves, high Unicode characters, rare NAG's etc.) It turned out that most of the tested viewers cannot handle everything and some showed parser errors. The synoptic table with the results of 26 viewers tested is to be found here:
Premium Chessgames Member Oh, thanks for clearing that up.
Apr-25-15  Kuirhi: Hello chessgames,
I've an idea in my mind for quite some time, altough it's prob. already suggested: A list where games are stated that got a really high score for the quality of the game, (in the pun voting booth) but got a bad score for the pun with them. Let's say the top 50 best rated game that haven't been GOTD will be listed, and that list will be easy to find on the site. In that way, people who are creative with words can see wich high-qualtiy games haven't been game of the day yet, and try to come with good puns for those games, cause those game really deserve to be GOTD. Since ppl. somethimes complain about the quality of the GOTD, I think this would be a good addition.
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  Tabanus: <WannaBe: <Tabanus> How about opening multiple tabs> 153 tabs? You must be joking. No I need to see all the info quickly: site, event, date and round. Even clicking on "view" is too slow IMO.

Btw while I remember: could not editors also enter EventDate? Admittedly I don't what's the status there for TI tournaments. Perhaps also it could be automatically added to all the games.

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  WannaBe: <Tabanus: ... 153 tabs?> I see, I see... Thought it was like 5 or 6 games. =)
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  Benzol: Are the games from the recently completed New Zealand Senior Ch going to appear soon?
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  whiteshark: <ceegee> Is there anything wrong with the missing 576 games of Bundesliga (2014/15) that I've sent you the other day?
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  Annie K.: <cg> why not relay some of the Kasparov-Short match? :)
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  FSR: There is a mistake in Lasker - Marshall World Championship Match (1907):

<In 1904, Marshall won the very strong Cambridge Springs tournament by 1.5 points over Emanuel Lasker, the first time that the World Champion had been beaten in a tournament in nearly ten years.>

Marshall won Cambridge Springs (1904) by 2 points, not 1.5. Moreover, the "the first time that the World Champion had been beaten" language seems ill-chosen; one could read it to mean that Lasker had been undefeated in his other tournaments. I recommend changing the above-quoted sentence to the following:

<Marshall won the very strong Cambridge Springs (1904) tournament by two points over Lasker, the first time that the World Champion had failed to win a tournament since Hastings (1895).>

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  Domdaniel: < How do you people get your mind off from chess? Advice would be appreciated. Thanks.>

Some people use sex, drugs, or rock'n'roll. Others employ mathematics, or read long and complicated novels (anything by Thomas Pynchon should do, in a pinch).

Avoid furniture: it tends to suggest combinations such as 'chair takes table, check'.

I couldn't possibly comment.

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