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   jnpope has kibitzed 316 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Jan-28-15 Staunton - Saint Amant (1843) (replies)
jnpope: From Bell's Life in London for 1842.03.06: <[...] Captain Evans, the "Evans Gambit man," who recently settled himself in Greece as commander of the Iberia steamer, running between Malta and the Isles..> And from the Bristol Mercury for 1843.12.23: <The Oriental Company's ...
   Jan-28-15 Zukertort vs D M Martinez, 1884
jnpope: Not bad. It only took about 15 days for this correction (my previous correction submission took 13 months). I would call this a substantial improvement. Perhaps I will start submitting more.
   Jan-28-15 Pierre Charles Fournier de Saint Amant (replies)
jnpope: Found another Morphy reference during lunch: "Mr. Morphy in London. This gentleman, now recognised as the Champion of the Chess World, returned to London on Monday last, en route to his Western home [...] On Thursday Mr. Morphy was invited, and accepted the hospitality of the ...
   Jan-26-15 Alexandre Louis Honore Lebreton Deschapelles
jnpope: Here is the first game from the odds match with St. Amant where Des Chapelles gives up the Queen's Rook for two extra pawns and the move (note: FEN line has the slashes reversed for posting): [DIAGRAM] [Event "Odds Match"] [Site "FRA Paris (Paris CC)"] [Date "1842"] [Round ...
   Jan-22-15 François André Philidor
jnpope: Does anyone know of any chess database program that can correctly play through games at rook odds where the player castles toward the missing rook, such as in the following game? Note: slashes reversed in the FEN for posting. [Event "<Ra1,Pc7>"] [Site "?"] [Date ...
   Jan-19-15 jnpope chessforum
jnpope: Here is the full set of results for each "match" (each player's wins and the number of draws): PCM58JL*=43 PCM57=283 d=174 PCM58AA=48 PCM57=284 d=168 HNP95*=28 PCM57=336 d=136 IK67*=6 PCM57=411 d=83 HS43=20 PCM57=378 d=102 JL1858*=1 PCM57=492 d=7 AA51*=3 PCM57=458 d=39 ...
   Jan-16-15 Harry Nelson Pillsbury (replies)
jnpope: I no longer bother submitting things. I don't have the patience to wait six, seven, thirteen, etc., months for them to act. I just post things in the comment sections and let other people deal with the glacial pace of this site.
   Jan-16-15 Pillsbury vs F D Cornell, 1899 (replies)
jnpope: For Pillsbury-Mocket? Date: 1899.04.21 Site: USA Lincoln, NE Event: Pillsbury Exhibition: Simultaneous White: Pillsbury,HN Black: Mockett,JH (Jr) Opening: [C67] Spanish 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.0-0 Nxe4 5.d4 Be7 6.Qe2 Nd6 7.Bxc6 bxc6 8.dxe5 Nb7 9.Nc3 0-0 10.Re1 Bc5 ...
   Jan-13-15 Mackenzie vs M Judd, 1874 (replies)
jnpope: There is no mention of time trouble in the tournament book. According to the notes given: 37...Kg8 ("After this move Judd regarded his game as lost.") 44.Rf3 ("Black could now force the game, but was only too glad to escape with a draw.")
   Jan-08-15 Johannes Zukertort
jnpope: A neat game JHZ lost to Max's brother Maurice. Zukertort,JH - Judd,Maurice USA St. Louis, MO [1883.12? 1884.01?] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.d4 exd4 7.0-0 dxc3 8.Qb3 Qf6 9.e5 Qg6 10.Nxc3 Bxc3 11.Qxc3 Nge7 12.Ng5 0-0 13.Bd3 Qh5 14.Bxh7+ Kh8 15.Bc2 d5 16.exd6 ...
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  paderamo: I found 7 games of Pillsbury in Nebraska in 1900:

Only the Joyce game was in your book, found in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle. Although the Pillsbury vs. Davidson&Reavis game is messed up, I believe I accurately figured it out.

Do you have an addendum for games found after your book was published?

Best wishes.

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  paderamo: 3 games of Pillsbury in Nebraska during 1901. You have the DeFrance game in your book:

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  jnpope: I do not have an addendum, but I have been putting together a little Pillsbury "tour" research project which already contains all the games from the Nebraska State Journal. I think I got them from Andy Ansel a few years back... but those from San Francisco were definitely new to me.
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  jnpope: Just returned from two weeks in sunny FL. Now I just need to find my motivation... I'm sure I left it here somewhere...
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  Phony Benoni: <jnpope> I've posted some information on J F Barry vs Pillsbury, 1899, the mate-in-thirteen game.
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  jnpope: Thanks. I've had 11/27 as the date for a while now. I've been working on some new Pillsbury material that I've gathered since for a possible 20th anniversary edition to the Pillsbury book:

"At the clubrooms Mr. Barry and Mr. Pillsbury played an exhibition game Monday evening. The time clocks were used and all the formalities observed. Mr. Barry played his usual superb game and won the exchange in the middle game. The game was terminated by an announced mate in thirteen moves." <<Boston Evening Transcript>, 1899.11.28>

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  Phony Benoni: Twenty years? You mean you're not young any more?
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  jnpope: I like to think of myself as a young historian instead of as an old chess player!
Jan-02-14  TheFocus: <jnpope> Do you plan to include Harry's checker games and checker match record?
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  jnpope: I have been collecting his checker games as well as any mention of his whist participation (he was a member of the the Brooklyn Whist Club).
Jan-03-14  TheFocus: Great. Looking forward to the 20th anniversary book.
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  jnpope: I finally found my motivation (apparently it was hidden under a sofa cushion).
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  jnpope: Who the heck is Richard Pope?

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  jnpope: <The subjoined game was played a short time ago at St. Petersburg:> «Charleston Sunday News, 1901.04.21, p15»

Janowski,DM - Chigorin,MI [C48]
RUS St. Petersburg
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bb5 d6 5.d4 Nd7 6.Ne2 Be7 7.c3 0-0 8.Ng3 Ndb8 9.d5 a6 10.Bd3 Na7 11.h3 Nd7 12.Nf5 Nc5 13.g4 c6 14.Bc2 cxd5 15.exd5 Bxf5 16.gxf5 Bf6 17.Rg1 e4 18.Ng5 Qe7 19.Be3 Nb5 20.Qg4 Bxg5 21.Bxg5 f6 22.Be3 Nd3+ 23.Bxd3 exd3 24.0-0-0 Rf7 25.Rxd3 Nc7 26.Bd2 Kh8 27.Qh5 Qe8 28.c4 Rc8 29.Bc3 b5 30.c5 b4 31.Bd2 dxc5 32.Re1 Qd7 33.Re4 c4 34.Rh4 h6 35.Rg3 Nxd5 36.Rg6 Re7 37.Bxh6 Re1+ 38.Kd2 Nf4+ 39.Kxe1 Re8+ 40.Kf1 Qd3+ 41.Kg1 Nxh5 42.Bxg7+ Kg8 43.Bxf6+ Kf7 0-1 «Charleston Sunday News, 1901.04.21, p15»

Dec-01-14  TheFocus: <jnpope> <Who the heck is Richard Pope?>

How rude of them.

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  Annie K.: Heh, they probably misread Nick as 'Rick'.

Mr. Pope, would you happen to know whatever became of Pillsbury's wife after his death? Just something I'm curious about. :)

Very glad to see you here, and helping to improve this site, btw - thanks for all your work!

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  jnpope: I believe she eventually remarried.

Winter's Chess Notes 8458 has more:

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  Annie K.: Wow, thanks! I had tried to find a Mary Ellen Pillsbury in online records of US obituaries, etc., now and then, hoping that the fact that I couldn't find her by that name meant that she lived to remarry. Great to have confirmation. :)

I think this may be a datum worth mentioning, with regards to the speculations about Pillsbury's cause of death.

Although I also tend to believe that he died of syphilis, yet considering how highly contagious syphilis is, and that his disease hadn't, as far as I know, been diagnosed as syphilis, until his death - so he wouldn't have had reason to refrain from having "marital relations" with his wife - it may be significant to note that she apparently hadn't contracted it.

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  Stonehenge: Would this be her?

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  Annie K.: <Stonehenge> thanks! Makes sense, everything matches. She lived to 83, then - impressive!

Bit of a pity that her memorial refers to her simply as Shearf, so apparently her grave doesn't mention the fact that she was once the (only) wife of one of America's greatest chess players.

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  paderamo: (paid subscription) has 1910, 1920, 1930, and 1940 census information on her, as well as her 1910 marriage to Frank Shearf. (paid subscription) has an upcoming marriage announcement to Henry Bubois Southard (marriage before Pillsbury) and a visitation announcement to her mother and step-father, as well as her mother's obituary whee Mary is mentioned.
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  paderamo: Apologies. Dubois.
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  Annie K.: Amazing what all can be found on the net these days. Thanks for all the research! :)
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  jnpope: Markov simulation tournament:

I've generated enough "players" to run a tournament finally.

At present my simulacrum participants are:

LCMB34 (Bourdonnais: Bourdonnais-McDonnell, 5th match 1834) AM34 (McDonnell: Bourdonnais-McDonnell, 5th match 1834)

HS43 (Staunton: Staunton-St. Amant 1843)
PCFS43 (St. Amant: Staunton-St. Amant 1843)

AA51* (Anderssen: London 1851)
* based on first 17 games

PCM57 (Morphy: New York 1857)

PCM58JL* (Morphy: Morphy-Lowenthal match)
JL1858* (Lowenthal: Morphy-Lowenthal 1858)
* based on first 4 games

AA58 (Anderssen: Morphy-Anderssen 1858)
PCM58AA (Morphy: Morphy-Anderssen match)

WS66 (Steinitz: Steinitz-Anderssen 1866)
AA66 (Anderssen: Steinitz-Anderssen 1866)

IK67* (Kolisch: Paris 1867)
* based on first 6 games

HNP95* (Pillsbury: Hastings 1895)
* based on first 8 games

The fun part here is that a player can end up playing himself from a different time period...

The final results where each player played 500 games with each other:

5921.0 PCM57
5214.0 PCM58JL*
4639.0 PCM58AA
4282.5 HNP95*
4127.0 IK67*
3662.5 HS43
2941.0 AA51*
2720.0 LCMB34
2537.0 WS66
2263.5 AA66
2178.5 PCFS43
2137.0 JL1858*
1809.5 AA58
1067.5 AM34

The most surprising thing to me was Staunton did much better than I had expected. I'd like to add Zukertort and Steinitz from the 1880s and Lasker from the 1890s once I finish off the current batch.

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  jnpope: Here is the full set of results for each "match" (each player's wins and the number of draws):

PCM58JL*=43 PCM57=283 d=174
PCM58AA=48 PCM57=284 d=168
HNP95*=28 PCM57=336 d=136
IK67*=6 PCM57=411 d=83
HS43=20 PCM57=378 d=102
JL1858*=1 PCM57=492 d=7
AA51*=3 PCM57=458 d=39
LCMB34=2 PCM57=461 d=37
WS66=4 PCM57=454 d=42
AA66=1 PCM57=480 d=19
PCFS43=2 PCM57=479 d=19
AA58=2 PCM57=486 d=12
AM34=0 PCM57=500 d=0
PCM58AA=111 PCM58JL*=199 d=190
HNP95*=79 PCM58JL*=246 d=175
IK67*=53 PCM58JL*=278 d=169
HS43=73 PCM58JL*=319 d=108
JL1858*=3 PCM58JL*=464 d=33
AA51*=30 PCM58JL*=369 d=101
LCMB34=23 PCM58JL*=363 d=114
WS66=9 PCM58JL*=450 d=41
AA66=5 PCM58JL*=454 d=41
PCFS43=2 PCM58JL*=458 d=40
AA58=3 PCM58JL*=461 d=36
AM34=0 PCM58JL*=498 d=2
HNP95*=164 PCM58AA=163 d=173
IK67*=91 PCM58AA=220 d=189
HS43=111 PCM58AA=279 d=110
JL1858*=57 PCM58AA=340 d=103
AA51*=66 PCM58AA=336 d=98
LCMB34=48 PCM58AA=340 d=112
WS66=48 PCM58AA=375 d=77
AA66=29 PCM58AA=404 d=67
PCFS43=22 PCM58AA=418 d=60
AA58=19 PCM58AA=434 d=47
AM34=6 PCM58AA=454 d=40
IK67*=144 HNP95*=155 d=201
HS43=171 HNP95*=215 d=114
JL1858*=68 HNP95*=319 d=113
AA51*=84 HNP95*=285 d=131
LCMB34=42 HNP95*=347 d=111
WS66=72 HNP95*=335 d=93
AA66=47 HNP95*=358 d=95
PCFS43=43 HNP95*=360 d=97
AA58=18 HNP95*=424 d=58
AM34=12 HNP95*=442 d=46
HS43=131 IK67*=219 d=150
JL1858*=7 IK67*=450 d=43
AA51*=92 IK67*=259 d=149
LCMB34=51 IK67*=300 d=149
WS66=101 IK67*=253 d=146
AA66=50 IK67*=320 d=130
PCFS43=36 IK67*=364 d=100
AA58=12 IK67*=416 d=72
AM34=7 IK67*=430 d=63
JL1858*=102 HS43=319 d=79
AA51*=143 HS43=248 d=109
LCMB34=120 HS43=272 d=108
WS66=114 HS43=280 d=106
AA66=93 HS43=318 d=89
PCFS43=94 HS43=307 d=99
AA58=57 HS43=359 d=84
AM34=46 HS43=395 d=59
AA51*=247 JL1858*=131 d=122
LCMB34=213 JL1858*=145 d=142
WS66=195 JL1858*=216 d=89
AA66=221 JL1858*=164 d=115
PCFS43=219 JL1858*=173 d=108
AA58=196 JL1858*=186 d=118
AM34=114 JL1858*=310 d=76
LCMB34=209 AA51*=167 d=124
WS66=193 AA51*=195 d=112
AA66=135 AA51*=261 d=104
PCFS43=120 AA51*=289 d=91
AA58=92 AA51*=306 d=102
AM34=56 AA51*=390 d=54
WS66=186 LCMB34=185 d=129
AA66=128 LCMB34=229 d=143
PCFS43=151 LCMB34=210 d=139
AA58=101 LCMB34=254 d=145
AM34=45 LCMB34=360 d=95
AA66=172 WS66=232 d=96
PCFS43=186 WS66=227 d=87
AA58=136 WS66=250 d=114
AM34=112 WS66=292 d=96
PCFS43=187 AA66=186 d=127
AA58=144 AA66=237 d=119
AM34=70 AA66=344 d=86
AA58=159 PCFS43=217 d=124
AM34=99 PCFS43=307 d=94
AM34=95 AA58=305 d=100

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