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   Oct-15-19 jnpope chessforum
jnpope: For those who care, I'm up to "Smith" in the indexing of names for the Pillsbury vols. (I may need to start drinking after this project)
   Oct-04-19 Biographer Bistro (replies)
jnpope: <Phony Benoni: <jnpope> I don't think we can be sure that Rudolph's game against Pillsbury at Toledo in 1899, proves anything about about R Raubitschek vs Lee Milling Hopper, 1909.> Agreed, which is why I wasn't pushing for a name change to that game just yet, however, if
   Sep-17-19 Morphy vs F Perrin, 1857 (replies)
jnpope: <i) when was the prettified version first published?> My earliest source is also the Chess Monthly. <ii) did the original score appear in print before December 5th?> Yes, New York Clipper, Oct. 10, 1857:
   Sep-10-19 Dale A Brandreth (replies)
jnpope: Does anyone know if Dale ever came out with his book on George H. Mackenzie? I sent him copies of my Mackenzie research years ago but I wasn't too attentive in keeping up with his publication schedule. Dale was very generous in his gratitude and he sent me a bunch of his publications
   Aug-19-19 I Orchard vs Burille, 1893
jnpope: Published in the New Orleans Times-Democrat, 5 Aug 1888, p10.
   Aug-19-19 Constant Ferdinand Burille (replies)
jnpope: Great work guys. With all that info I was able to nail a death certificate number. Certificate Number: 22234 Date of Death: 22 Jul 1914 Place of Death: Manhattan, New York, USA It's looking more and more like he died in July and the news didn't find it's way into the American ...
   Aug-06-19 Pillsbury vs Allen & Bird, 1899
jnpope: Played November, 1896, between H. N. Pillsbury+Horace Chapman vs H. E. Bird+Raymond Allen. I'm not sure how this got dated 1899 and with Pillsbury playing solo; it's not that way in my 1996 book (p283). When I see something wrong I immediately run to my copy to see if I screwed ...
   Jul-31-19 James DeBenneville Seguin (replies)
jnpope: Ok, this is getting interesting (at least to me). Attorney James D. Séguin is listed in Martindale's American Law Directory for 1885 and 1900 (and I assume continuously between those years). But he does not show up in the 1904 edition. Then I found the following advertisement in the ...
   Jul-28-19 Mayet vs Zukertort, 1868
jnpope: The gamescore is published in Neue Berliner Schachzeitung, Volume 7, pp80-81. Looks like Zukertort missed it.
   Jul-07-19 Morphy vs W Potier, 1858
jnpope: That's awesome. I miss British sitcoms... that reminds me I need to re-watch Chef! and The Young Ones (RIP Rik Mayall).
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  jnpope: Baltische Schachblätter, 1910 v12, appears to be the only other placeholder entry.
Apr-13-17  zanzibar: Right-o <jn> - will pipe up as the occasion merits.

We both know it's tough keeping up with these moving targets.

May-29-17  zanzibar: Hi, I've sent you email with some additional articles for the O'Keefe Timeline.

(Four days of Chicago Tribune coverage of <Vienna (1899)>).

Hope you can get them in as updates.


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  MissScarlett: Uploaded a couple of Pillsbury games from the same simul:

Pillsbury vs J F Ramos, 1903

Pillsbury vs S Mlotkowski, 1903

Do you have the full date?

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  jnpope: I do not have a date for that exhibition and those games. I do have the game that Daniel P. Sailer won in the same exhibition. I assume you got the Ramos and Mlotkowki games from the Washington Evening Star. I found all three games in the JGW collection scrapbook for the Philadelphia Times and North American chess columns (a sloppy collection containing a mix of columns not just from those two papers but also additional Philadelphia papers). The games came from the North American columns (distinct column style), but sadly the North American columns were undated making it rather difficult to even place a ballpark date on those games. The best I have is as you have... October 1903.

Sorry for the tardiness of the reply. I was MIA for about a year and I'm slowly easing back into my chess duties... and before you ask, the Pillsbury books (two vols) are nearing completion, however, as late as yesterday (8/30) I recovered all the games from a Midwest blindfold simultaneous and was busy adding those to the 1899 section in vol 1 last night. When things like that fall into your lap it makes it difficult to halt the research and publish!

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  jnpope: I'm not sure whom to thank for renewing my membership. I noticed it yesterday when I was checking info on Budapest 1896, in particular the claim that Tarrasch won a brilliancy prize for Popiel-Tarrasch. I have found ZERO evidence of such a prize being offered during the tournament. It doesn't show up in the Deutsche Schachzeitung, British Chess Magazine or any newspaper source I have access to for 1896. Nor could I find it being belatedly awarded in 1897. And it is not mentioned in Maroczy's book of the tournament

But I digress.

I thank the individual who did that mystery renewal on my behalf.

Aug-31-18  zanzibar: <JN> do you have this Pillsbury loss found by <paderamo>:


[Event "Lincoln NE simul, 12b"]
[Site "Lincoln NE"]
[Date "1901.03.13"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Pillsbury, Harry N."]
[Black "Whited, Ray / Day, E. W."]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C26h"]
[EventDate "1901.03.13"]
[Source "Nebraska State Journal, Lincoln NE, 1901-03-15, p8"] [Source_url ""]

1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.g3 Nc6 4.Bg2 Bc5 5.d3 h6 6.Nge2 d6 7.Na4 Bb6 8. Nxb6 axb6 9.O-O Bd7 10.h3 Qc8 11.Kh2 Nh7 12.f4 f5 13.exf5 Bxf5 14.g4 Bd7 15.Be4 O-O 16.Ng3 Nf6 17.Bxc6 Bxc6 18.fxe5 dxe5 19.Qe2 Qd8 20. Qxe5 Nxg4+ 21.hxg4 Rxf1 22.Nxf1 Qh4+ 23.Kg1 Qh1+ 24.Kf2 Qg2+ 25.Ke1 Re8 26.Qxe8+ Bxe8 27.Be3 Qxc2 0-1



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  jnpope: <z>: Yes, I already have that game, but thanks for checking.
Sep-01-18  zanzibar: Seeing that <paderamo> only did the clipping 18 hours ago I thought I had a chance.

Not much of one, but a chance nonetheless!


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  paderamo: I have not even updated my web page with that link. occasionally re-scans their newspapers. In the process they delete anything that has been clipped. A number of links for the Nebraska State Journal do not work. Hundreds of links for the Chicago Daily Tribune need to be re-clipped. The Nebraska State Journal has had more years added in and I am in the process of clipping them. Maybe I can find more Pillsbury games.
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  paderamo: Also, great to have this forum back!
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  paderamo: The Pillsbury simul may have been on 24 October 1903. From the 23 October 1903 edition of the Philadelphia Inquirer:

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  jnpope: <paderamo>, negative on that. The games with Mlotkowski, et. al., are from an earlier exhibition:

<Pillsbury opened the season at the Franklin with a nineteen board seance. He lost two—J. F. Ramos and D. P. Sailer. Drew one with Hugh Roberts. Won sixteen from J. W. Young, R. H. Ramsey, G. H. Stout, T. Zook, W. F. Reed, F. B. Driver, A. Goldberg, S. Mlotkowski, J. P. Fahey, S. W. Bampton, S. R. Jacob, W. K. Barclay, W. P. Thomas, S. T. Sharp, R. Lloyd, and J. H. Rhoads. Of the games the champion won the one with Stasch Mlotkowski was the best played, and it looked at one time as if the local matador had the better partie.

<source: White Collection scrapbook of Philadelphia Times and North American, v5, W q789.4 P53, p127 (North American column undated)>>

I suspect it was closer to the top of October based upon:

<Pillsbury will go to Philadelphia in a few days and give his next exhibition at the Franklin Chess Club of that City.

<source: Brooklyn Daily Eagle, 1903.09.28, p8>>

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  jnpope: I guess it's about time to make this public...

I have just released a Chess Archaeology treatment of the 1834 Bourdonnais-McDonnell matches, including what is probably the first original research into these matches in over 150 years (at least since 1864 as far as I know).

Sep-03-18  Boomie: <jnpope: I guess it's about time to make this public...

I have just released a Chess Archaeology treatment of the 1834 Bourdonnais-McDonnell matches>

That is super cool. A study of their matches is a must for any serious student.

To jazz up the commentary, you might credit Morphy who wrote the analysis for the Ledger.

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  Tabanus: <jnpope> Amazing job.
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  jnpope: <Tabanus>, thanks. Hopefully it will hold up to further scrutiny; I'd hate to think I overlooked something obvious!
Feb-24-19  zanzibar: RE:

Looks like a gg, and I must say I'm impressed by the use of backtabs (triangles) for navigation.

One small suggestion would be to move the source refs at the end of the articles to the top - it's helpful for orientation (like knowning data/journal/author before actually reading).

Also, what about the PGN?

(It's a small obsession of mine, admittedly, but all-the-same...)

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  jnpope: I decided 20 years ago to treat source information like citation information, so it appears below the sourced, or cited, text. The other option would have been to use footnote notation which I abhor (I really despise flipping back and forth in books and jumping up and down on Wiki pages).

As for the PGN. The header data is not in a PGN friendly format. I don't use the ChessBase fields in a way that would be useful for imports if I just dumped the games to PGN (I put additional research terms and historical data in places it doesn't belong because ChessBase sucks for historical research), but I like many of the other CB features, so it was a trade-off.

It might be easier to copy the games from the web page into a text editor and just add brackets around the given header data which I could do, I'm just not sure what additional fields are necessary to make CG importing happy... so I leave it to some dedicated CG contributing lunatic to do. :-)

Feb-28-19  zanzibar: Guess I'll just be a consumer in that case - I'm a lunatic in some departments, but after <DF> I think I've lost my <CG> lunatic credentials.

Anyways you know where to find me.

Still, I hope you do find a <CG> lunatic - it's a pretty short job.


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  jnpope: Staunton vs NN, 1841

Staunton first gives this game as being played "Between St-n and one of the first Metropolitan Players" in 1841 (which is probably why this game is given as being played vs NN currently):

But in subsequent years he identifies his opponent as being Popert in the Chess-Players Handbook, 1847:

And again in the Chess-Player's Companion, 1849:

It is also worth pointing out that Staunton states that "The games with Mr. Popert are selected from those of a Match won by the Author, then a young player, in 1840." (Chess-Player's Companion, 1849, p187).

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  jnpope: The following game against Popert, from Chess-Player's Companion, 1849, pp188-190, does not presently appear in the database:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 d6 5.d4 exd4 6.cxd4 Bb6 7.Nc3 Bg4 8.Be3 Nf6 9.a3 O-O 10.Qd3 Bh5 11.Bb3 Qd7 12.Bc2 Rae8 13.d5 Ne7 14.Bxb6 axb6 15.O-O Ng6 16.Nd4 Ne5 17.Qg3 c6 18.f4 Nc4 19.b4 b5 20.a4 cxd5 21.Ncxb5 Nxe4 22.Qh4 Nf6 23.Nf5 Bg6 24.Nbd4 Ne4 25.Nxg7 Kxg7 26.f5 Ncd2 27.fxg6 hxg6 28.Bxe4 Rxe4 29.Qf6+ Kh7 30.Nf5 Rg8 31.Nxd6 Nxf1 32.Nxe4 dxe4 33.Rxf1 Qg4 34.Qxf7+ Rg7 35.Qf4 Qe6 36.Qh4+ Kg8 37.Qd8+ Kh7 38.Rf8 g5 39.Rh8+ Kg6 40.Qe8+ Qxe8 41.Rxe8 Kf5 42.Kf2 Rc7 43.Ke3 Rc3+ 44.Kd4 Rd3+ 45.Kc4 Rd2 46.Rf8+ Ke5 47.g4 Rc2+ 48.Kb3 Rxh2 49.Rf5+ Kd4 50.Rxg5 e3 51.Rg7 e2 52.Re7 Rh3+ 53.Kc2 Re3 0-1

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  jnpope: Yet another game, this time from a series played at Goode's Chess Rooms in 1841 (so not part of the 1840-1841 Match played at the London Chess Club):

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Bb4+ 5.c3 dxc3 6.bxc3 Ba5 7.e5 Nge7 8.0-0 0-0 9.Ba3 Bb6 10.Re1 h6 11.Qd3 Re8 12.Nbd2 Ng6 13.Bb3 Na5 14.Bc2 c5 15.Re4 Qe7 16.Rg4 Qe6 17.Rg3 c4 18.Qe4 Bc7 19.Re1 Rb8 20.Bd6 Bxd6 21.exd6 Qxe4 22.Nxe4 Kf8 23.Re3 b5 24.Nd4 Nc6 25.Nf5 a5 26.h4 b4 27.h5 b3 28.axb3 cxb3 29.Bb1 Re5 30.Nxh6 Rxh5 31.Nxf7 Kxf7 32.Ref3+ Kg8 33.Rxg6 Ne5 34.Nf6+ Kf7 35.Nxh5+ Nxf3+ 36.gxf3 Ba6 37.Rxg7+ Ke6 38.Rg6+ Kd5 39.Rg5+ Kc4 40.Rxa5 Bb5 41.Nf6 Kxc3 42.Nd5+ Kb2 43.Bf5 Rg8+ 44.Kh2 Bc6 45.Nf6 Rg5 46.Ne4 Rg7 47.Re5 Ka1 48.Re7 b2 49.Nc3 1-0

<Chess Player's Chronicle, v2 1841-1842, pp20-21>

<Chess Studies: Comprising One Thousand Games, 1844, pp116-117>

This should take the total number of known Staunton v Popert games to 18 (14 from the London Chess Club Match 1840-1841 and four from a series played in late 1841 at Goode's Chess Rooms).

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  jnpope: I know nothing about iOS apps. Sorry. (deleted your post as I don't trust the site you are linking to)
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  jnpope: For those who care, I'm up to "Smith" in the indexing of names for the Pillsbury vols. (I may need to start drinking after this project)
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