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johnlspouge
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   Jun-13-19 Kenneth S Rogoff (replies)
 
johnlspouge: < <devere> wrote : A person who doesn't believe in God due to lack of evidence is called an agnostic. > An agnostic does not know, nothing more or less. The etymology is a + gnosis ("ignorant, not knowing"). < Doubtful or uncertain about the existence or ...
 
   Jun-01-19 Louis Stumpers (replies)
 
johnlspouge: < <al wazir> wrote: I would be proud of such modesty. > I am sure you would. If you are ever in Washington, I will take you out for a free meal. You will salvage one of my regrets, that I did not take you up on your invitation to visit your chess club when you were ...
 
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Feb-25-18  Nisjesram: <big pawn: so it's not a matter of ability, yet you seem to not understand this, repeating it as you are and unable to respond to my refutation. This is why you say, <<Nisjesram> obviously understands my point, so at this stage, I will not belabor it, as it is clear. The OMV argument is worthless.>

Unable to refute either premise, by his own admission, and unable to cope with my defeating his try that God's ability grounds moral values by showing that it is God's nature itself that is The Good, <jls> simply says <The OMV argument is worthless.>

That's all he has.

<Tga>, do you see that this is all he has?

I mean, do you <really> see that?>

See my post above <thegoodanarchist> and <big pawn> where I addressed this point of 'ability'

Frankly, you two are embarrassing yourselves so badly that you can not expect someone of the stature of <johnlspouge> to bother with you.

Even I am finding it very difficult to tolerate nonsense of you clowns and still refuting your kindergarten level arguments.

<johnlspouge> is ten thousands smarter than me . you can not expect him to respond to your kindergarten level questions. He has explained everything so elaborately and he said in effect : everything is s clear. <nisjesram> just entered the conversation and without reading any previous post understood everything so quickly. Why can not you understand after two three days ? How much time of his you guys want? You are at kindergarten level or you are retarded?

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You two should be grateful that I am answering your kindergarten level questions/comments

Feb-25-18  Nisjesram: <biig pawn>< Pawn: <Feb-25-18 Premium Chessgames Member john barleycorn: < Nisjesram: ... Idiot, show me which conversation of mine in this debate is stupid. ...> Holy cow, go to your first post. and then it got worse.> He is begging for respect, <jbc>, but instead he is made sport of. ....

Indeed, he is VERY upset about this, but I’m afraid he just doesn’t understand.

Does this sound like a plausible explanation to you?>

So , every one sees <big pawn> is running away by joining <johnbarleycorn> in substance less clowning.

All their arguments refuted.

If and when they make any argument again, I will respond even if it is kindergarten level as usual.

Thank you guys

Namaste

Feb-25-18  Nisjesram: <Focus: And today, for the first time in CeeGee history, every post said the same dang thing: <Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah OMV blah blah blah idiot blah blah machine guns blah blah blah blah liar blah blah blah blah blah freaking blah.> Multitude that by 100 posts of the same.

It was like watching a gaggle of bald men arguing over a comb>

1)<thefocus> , this is the last scene of the most stupid movie ever ,'omv argument' and after that I am leaving cg.com forever. Perhaps, I would visit your forum sometime if and when I am ready to ask you some questions about martial arts, if you please

2)well, <thefocus> , you put me on ignore earlier (I tested just now - I am not on your ignore list any more) and said that you were not interested in omv

3)and I said "every time I trounce <big pawn> in omv , you say things like 'it is great to see <big pawn> mow down every one in omv debate' , or <nisjesram> has man crush on <johnlspouge>' or 'no contribution by <nisjesram> to omv debate'"

4)not this time. This time it is very clear that <big pawn> and <thegoodanarchist> have been trounced badly and by me , by my theory.

5)I had said that I was ten thousand times smarter than <big pawn> and <thegoodanarchist> and <johnlspouge> is ten thousand times smarter than me. And despite all stupid tricks of <big pawn> , omv debate has reached climax due to my persistance and today I will make these two clowns run away in no time. And I delivered. All their kindergarten level arguments refuted effortlessly by me and the two clowns ran away like scalded dogs.

6)you are a good man <thefocus> but sometimes you can be a jerk when you join elite idiots comedy of <big pawn>.

Well, any way....take care...

Thank you

Namaste

Feb-25-18  Nisjesram: 1)<johnlspouge> , I am reposting your last comment from today and my comments of today in your forum for future reference, if you please. Please feel free to delete them if you wish so.

2)after thoroughly refuting stupid omv argument, I felt no need to respond to substanceless , stupid trash talk of <big pawn> , <johnbarleycorn> , <moronovich>.

3)<thegoodanarchist> is as stupid as <big pawn> , however, I am waiting to see if <thegoodanarchist> too is as dishonest as <big pawn> or he has honesty to accept/admit that stupid omv argument has been thoroughly refuted.

4)if <big pawn> , <thegoodanarchist> or anyone else makes some argument about this conversation again , I may respond or else I am gone from this site forever.

Thank you
Namaste

Feb-25-18  Nisjesram: <jolspouge: < <thegoodanarchist> wrote: Zeus can override Bob, therefore Bob is not the locus. > Zeus can decide to override Bob, but in my mythology, he has decided to leave the universe to Bob, to run it exactly as Bob sees fit. Bob is the relevant locus for our universe. Being in charge has nothing to do with being the locus relevant to our universe. They are separate functions of a deity.

The model of a computer simulation may work for you. (Models may not be real but they serve as an excellent aid to imagination, to understand the possibilities, of which there are too many for the first premise to be true.) The movie the Matrix illustrates some of the concepts.

Classically, along with other functions, God updated a clockwork universe. Nowadays, a computer simulation of the universe can do something similar. Imagine our universe as a computer simulation, and us as agents within the simulation. Zeus is upstairs, still in charge, but the moral values underlying the universe are written <objectively> in the source code running on the computer

Feb-25-18  Nisjesram: nlspouge: < <thegoodanarchist> wrote: Zeus can override Bob, therefore Bob is not the locus. > Zeus can decide to override Bob, but in my mythology, he has decided to leave the universe to Bob, to run it exactly as Bob sees fit. Bob is the relevant locus for our universe. Being in charge has nothing to do with being the locus relevant to our universe. They are separate functions of a deity> It is a shame that such simple things have to be explained to <thegoodanarchist>.

Any smart student of class 12th would agree with me.

Like I said - "i am thousands time smarter than <big pawn> and <thegoodanarchist> and <johnlspouge> is thousands time smarter than me. I will make <big pawn> and <thegoodanarchist> run away like scalded dog in no time"

Feb-25-18  Nisjesram: <<thegoodanarchist><Bob is subordinate to Zeus, however, and therefore not a maximal being, so the first premise is false.> No, you haven't falsified the first premise. You've merely employed a trick used by car dealerships. The sales manager ultimately decides if the salesman can agree to a customer's price offer. The salesman is merely the conduit for the decision. >>

Now, very clearly <thegoodanarchist> has no clue what the point is .

Let me explain first what <thegoodanarchist> is saying :

1)<thegoodanarchist> is saying that instead of Bob , Zeus is maximal greatest being. So what is the difference? God still exists and omv argument establishes that.

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Now let me explain why <thegoodanarchist> is making a fool of himself. Here.

2)like I said many times that teachings of jesus are the only way to know creator of universe and we can not know creator of universe through stupid omv argument.

3)so , if locus of omv is neither maximal greatest being nor creator of universe, then we can not know creator of universe through omv argument.

4)and further as <johnlspouge> said - in his theory , <bob> has full autonomy which though can be overridden by zeus

4)hence <thegoodanarchist> is making a fool of himself by claiming that if creator of universe is maximal greatest being in theory of <johnlspouge> then omv argument is correct/useful.

Again :it is a shame that such simple things have to be explained to <thegoodanarchist>.

Any smart student of class 12th would agree with me.

Like I said - "i am thousands time smarter than <big pawn> and <thegoodanarchist> and <johnlspouge> is thousands time smarter than me. I will make <big pawn> and <thegoodanarchist> run away like scalded dog in no time"

Feb-25-18  Nisjesram: <<goodanarchist> wrote: Zeus can override Bob, therefore Bob is not the locus. > Unbelievable.

As anyone can see , <thegoodanarchist> has no clue what Absolute is and what is the difference between 'personal god' and Absolute is despite my giving links many times that alone should disqualify <thegoodanarchist> from this conversation for being an ignorant fool

In that theory which is so well established and endorsed by so many philosophers, Absolute is 'creator' of universe as well as creator of locus of omv and can kill locus of omv any time.

Like I said - "i am thousands time smarter than <big pawn> and <thegoodanarchist> and <johnlspouge> is thousands time smarter than me. I will make <big pawn> and <thegoodanarchist> run away like scalded dog in no time"

Feb-25-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: <*Now* I can invoke that elementary plane geometry theorem that sin x ≈ x for small values of the angle x when it is measured in radians...>

That is my favorite plane geometry theorem.

Jul-28-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Hi, John. Glad that you were so gratified by my citation of your comment. The link you posted didn't work for me. Were you referring to one of these articles, or another?

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...

Sadly, there is no shortage of such articles.

I was surprised to learn that England's record high temperature is a measly 101.3 degrees Fahrenheit. In Phoenix, an <average> day in June, or July, or August, easily beats that.

Oct-03-18  Tomlinsky: Hey Mr Spouge! Hope all good in your part of this circus of life. My radar suspects that you may find plenty to tickle your theoretic, harmonic and mathematical fancy at Rick Beato's great YouTube channel. Been meaning to post this for a while...

https://www.youtube.com/user/pegzch...

Oct-05-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  johnlspouge: @<Tomlinsky>: Hi, Tommy! Top o' the morn! It's always a pleasure to hear from you.

I have always found Rick Beato's YouTube musical videos instructive, although they make me feel like a chimpanzee listening to Shakespeare. Thanks for pointing me to his channel. I have a yearly cycle for music, and it is almost time to work on the fundamentals again.

I appreciate your thinking of me. I hope you are well. All the best...

Oct-16-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier: <johnlspouge> hi, i know that a prayer is like a glass of water for my soul ..... ths J
Oct-29-18  Tomlinsky: Eyup lad. Pleased to hear that you are as confused on this matter as am I.

Another muse feeder to twist that noodle... https://www.youtube.com/user/davidb...

:)

Nov-05-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  johnlspouge: I stuck to home base and watched David Bruce's video on musical composition and the Fibonacci numbers.

It's worse. I don't even know enough about musical composition to feel like a chimpanzee!

Thanks, <Tommy>. It's always pleasant to hear from you.

I hope all is well.

Nov-14-18  Tomlinsky: Ticking over. Just. Could do without this Brexit bollocks but hey-ho. US politics is an entertaining distraction in small doses these days. It's all just a fart within a whirlwind anyway!

On a brighter note (C# perhaps?) I love these resources, dizzying as they can be, some of it sticks. I think.

Nov-17-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  johnlspouge: Internet resources for training musical ear have definitely taught me more than I could have learned in the pre-internet era.

Brexit is retro, but there are certainly those around who prefer retro. Reality takes some time to impinge.

Good to hear you are still "ticking over", though :)

Jan-12-19  Tomlinsky: I hope we can still get Toblerone after we leave the EU. Happy New Year to you, good sir.
Jan-13-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  johnlspouge: Thanks, Tommy!

We can still get Toblerone here, probably at a special price, just for the US ;>)

Let me know if you need an overseas package :)

Best of the New Year to you, too, sir!

Jan-13-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  johnlspouge: BTW, about one month ago, I started speculating that Brexit won't happen. It might be wishful thinking, because without it, my kids can find employment in Europe.

Am I crazy? (Maybe, I should phrase the question more usefully, but...)

Jan-13-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Diademas: <johnlspouge: BTW, about one month ago, I started speculating that Brexit won't happen.>

Wish you were right, but I'm afraid our offsprings will have to live with what a scared hate mongering bunch of octogenarians decided in the early part of the 21st century.

Jan-19-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: <jls> I am going to leave this link right here for you:

http://blog.iiasa.ac.at/2014/09/23/...

<Next month, we will announce the results of our newest assessment at the launch of a new book entitled: “World Population and Global Human Capital in the 21st Century” (Lutz, Butz and KC, Oxford University Press 2014). Contrary to the UN projections, the IIASA medium (most likely) scenario indicates that world population will increase to 9.2 billion by 2050, peak at 9.4 billion around 2070 and start a slow decline to 9.0 billion by the end of the century.>

The IIASA folks look like they may be well ahead of the UN folks, in accuracy. I could be wrong, but that doesn't happen often.

Jan-22-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  johnlspouge: @<thegoodanarchist>: I was not aware of the IIASA organization. Thanks.

"International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis"

[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter... ]

(Please forgive the Wikipedia link ;>)

Jan-22-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: <<(Please forgive the Wikipedia link ;>)>

Of course.

Please forgive my rhetorical device of labeling your data "propaganda".

After all, the UN data isn't so far off, percentage-wise.

Mar-26-19  Nisjesram: <nok: I'm being told a man with a turban's looking for me>

<johnlspouge> and I are looking for you in the <johnlspouge> forum because we both liked your conversation on omv and

I posted this message of <jls> for you :

<nok>?

<nok>?

<nok>?

Where are you <nok> ?

Did someone see <nok> ?

<nok>, did you read this comment of <jls> ?

<johnlspouge: @<Nisjesram>: I also wanted to open a direct dialog with <nok> [about omv argument], so by all means, use my forum.>

.

2)looking forward to seeing you in <jls> forum.

P.s. neither <jls> nor I wear turban.

Cheers :)

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