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|Aug-30-19|| ||moronovich: Hi <achieve> !|
Hi man-great to se you in da house again.
I feel we go a long way together..
And thanks a lot for the Larsen link.It brought back many feelings and memories of this special man I met several times and who was a great teacher.So typical of him to speak Dutch.He was often called a man of the world and knew something about almost everything.
I could talk about him for a long time.
While searching for Bent I found an,to mee, unknown clip of Bobby Fischer called "April 9,1972,Chess Champ BF on 60 minutes" which hereby is highly recommended.
All in all I am doing ok/fine.Has turned 66 and the old body is not that young anymore.But like since I was born
,the spirit is bright and still curious.
And how about you ?
Good to be in your company again-but now it is bedtime and may be,if everything fits I´ll go to town tomorrow with a good friend.Have a couple of coffees and 2-3 pints and talk about litterally everything.And unterwegs feeling it like a blessing.
Take care out there and see you around.
|Aug-30-19|| ||moronovich: And one more thing <achieve>|
Did you see the last blitz move in the play off yesterday in St Louis ? Dings Ne7 !! it was.What a move ...
|Aug-31-19|| ||achieve: Hi <moro>, doing quite fine here considering, and I did watch a Daniel King video where the game was analysed, I have that position with the two Bishops lined up perfectly in my head as we speak, it was very impressive to say the least that game and tournament for Ding, good for him, to shake off the inferiority complex that some of them may have in sports they haven't been a force in, in recent times, say the past half century...|
I too feel we have ties that run quite deep, considering we have never met in the flesh!
About Jorgen Bent Larsen, he is very rounded, and I heard him say in another interview that he really never diminished in energy and playing strength prior to his 50-55th, and neither had he gained strength much, though his insights might have increased, saying that with increased insights, your OTB tournament strength does not necessarily increase...
Timman was his successor really as "Best of the West" and I looked up the H2h, with Timman edging it with a 9-7 score in classical... I will analyze a few of those games soon, and post some findings here to share...
And if you are able to share a few more snippets on Bent as a person I would be thankful; I really like to read up on those type men, for inspiration, and also as just an agreeable way of passing time and relaxing.
I'll be back soon, with a beauty of a game between Larsen and Timman, is my plan!! ;)
|Aug-31-19|| ||virginmind: Hi <moronovich> and <achieve>, glad to see you back. Indeed Larsen was a great type, as I've read, and <moronovich> quite fortunate to have him around and talk to him a few times. Thanks for the video <achieve>, but I didn't understand anything ;) And about the Fischer 1972, I've seen it back a few years ago, <moronovich>, if you're referring to the one in Dick Cavett show (there was another one, taken after winning the world championship, by the end of the year).|
I haven't proceed with the surgery as yet <moronovich> and in fact I'm considering postponing it indefinitely, as I've recently watch a video by a Romanian surgeon who advised against the hernia surgery which comprises putting a special net inside to protect from future hernia problems, as in 10-12% of the cases the pacient gets chronical pain after the operation. So for now I will just wait and see what happens - the hernia problem is not too painful (in some instances with zero pain) and as long as I manage to avoid physical effort and such, I think I'll be relatively OK. Of course, hernia does not go back by itself and it may well aggravate in the future. Well, I guess I'll see about that when time comes.
As for the rest, I'm fine and hope you (two) are the same.
|Sep-01-19|| ||achieve: Hi <virginmind> - Just wanted to say that I fully agree on your decision re. the hernia problem and surgery -- I know here in Holland and Germany it has become a sort of industry, just like what happened with the facial enhancement surgeries etc. -- very tricky to find the right clinic for the best treatment, as they all pull you in with luxury chambers with rosewood and whatever you can think of, because they make millions off the back of the people in pain. I may be exaggerating a bit, but being ultra careful is certainly the prudent way.|
And thanks so much for the good wishes and cheer!
|Sep-01-19|| ||achieve: Hi <moronovich>, you wrote this:|
<Good to be in your company again-but now it is bedtime and may be,if everything fits I´ll go to town tomorrow with a good friend.Have a couple of coffees and 2-3 pints and talk about litterally everything.And unterwegs feeling it like a blessing.>...
...which is a joy and blessing in itself, to read that type of honest gratitude and joi-de-vivre, and the way you word it is uniquely you, the way you translate "And <unterwegs> feeling it like a <blessing>...
Quite a rare gift you have, <moro> ;)
Sofar I analysed the two <shortest> games between Larsen and Timman, namely a 19 and 28 move game, both won by Jan as White against the Sicilian, remarkable technique by Jan there, but Bent botched the opening so... Pity actually, that the <Scheveningen> was dismantled so brutally by Timman, a system I played succesfully, mainly because of a Kasparov/Nikitin book on d6, e6 systems I studied in great detail.
But that book was written well after that Jan v Bent game!
|Sep-01-19|| ||moronovich: Good afternoon <achieve> !|
Thank you for your kind words.I try to go carpe diem as much as possible and I am happy when it happens :)
Bent is difficult to describe as a human.A rounded man,as you put it,fits well.A man of the world,who said the proof of fame is when people in Timbuktu know your name..I would call him a complex man who was not easy to come close as a human,but as a teacher was he extremely generous and gave away all his inner thoughts about strategy,rules of thumb and the psychology of our dear game with great joy and natural pride about his achievements.And this was likely his best element.
I´ll never forget that he took time to analyze one of my CC games.I was white in a closed sicilian.We sat there for an hour and after I have dropped the starstruckesness,we,to my great relief and satisfaction worked as a team with the same strenght.But then,after an hour he found an absolutely brilliant manouver for black :Bg7-f6-g5-e3 + and
white was positionally busted.Absolutely outstanding.
What a player he was.
But he emphazised that chess was never more than his mistress.
Interesting you also fancy the Scheveningen which also was mine bread and butter back in the days ! And I dont think it was only because it has a Dutch name !? :)
The Vuelta is calling and I send you all my best wishes.
|Sep-01-19|| ||achieve: Good evening dear <moro>, I must admit that the Scheveningen attracted me because of the dutch city name when I was young, but much more so did I like 1...c5 as a response to 1.e4, and it still has a magical feel to me, not opening any lines for the Bishops yet, and in terms of central pawns development you can react to what "over stretching the opponent does, and then take over business, as was a prominent feature in the Kasparov/Nikitin book. |
There were some darn great lines and observations and thoughts in that book, Kasparov also being a bit of a hero of me at the time... The 1985 match had me by the balls so to speak, I ate and drank it, at the time I was about 17...
I played most of my games and studied with a beautiful Mephisto board and built in engine, which had about 2100 strength... Not an easy challenge, but always available as punching bag, even though I got many KO's before finding the best line to win... Much more a strategic positional player and endgame student I was, so the engine tactically always got the better of me.
That's a confession! ;)
I did play with fellow student in my dorm but I could easily take them on in longer timecontrols, so they refused that and insisted on blitz and rapid... Never really made peace with those TC's...
And thanks for elaborating some on Bent... I spoke to Timman one time in Wijk aan Zee, at the bar, where Jan downed a beer and a Jenever (Gin) in quick succession! Same as Bent, not approachable on a personal level, but very very generous re chess education and simuls, still today... Every year Jan and Hans Bohm do an outdoor Simul in my town, Amstelveen, and most of the time I manage to go there and enjoy the great atmosphere.
Going out now with my doggie, beautiful evening here, but getting colder very fast now...
|Sep-02-19|| ||moronovich: Good evening <achieve> !|
So you build an engine MrMephisto ! Impressive.And it must have been some learning inspiration,I could imagine !? Chess wise as well.And I dor remember your preference for the more quite games and that the tactical fireworks were not the best thing for your nerve system,nicht wahr !?…
Difficult to imagine our chess opening without all these charming names.Spanish,Sicillian,King/Queens Indian,Volga gambit,Jaenisch and so forth and so forth.A poor world if they were reduced to bare numbers.
I think there was a painter from Munich who once tried this…
It sounds like great fun to see Jan and Hans doing an outdoor simul in your town which I will look up later on,but for now I´ll hit the pillow.
Also here it is getting colder and I do really enjoy this part of the year were almost three seasons have a rendevous.Everything is so clear in the sunlight and the air so freh and filled with Je ne sais qois.
Take care "old chap" and see you around.
ps. Do you know why the elite almost never play the Scheveningen these days ? It would otherwise be an excellent way to avoid the Rossolimo.
|Sep-03-19|| ||achieve: <Moro> I <never> built an engine, let alone a chess engine, thank goodness; it was a Mephisto I bought, well, my dad bought it for me, with a beautiful board and pieces, real wood, with "<built-in>" engine, is what I wrote, which funnily enough is not precise, coz it was a module that you could slide in and out, and replace by a stronger/different module (I ended up having three)...|
<ps. Do you know why the elite almost never play the Scheveningen these days ? It would otherwise be an excellent way to avoid the Rossolimo>
The obvious answer is because of the Lasker attack... Is that what you had in mind?
|Sep-03-19|| ||achieve: Vsyo o Scheveningenye
I meant the Keres Attack, 6.g4 -- I remember not playing it at the time, because I found it premature I think, prior to Be2 and 0-0 ... It is in the book I referred to, from <1983>!!!???
The original title in Russian is as above, and 6.g4 Nc6 is listed as a strong move for Black, but I have NO CLUE whether or not it has been busted, from that early in the variation, by now.
I will look into that, and test it with an online engine ;)
ps - I just read that 6 g4 Nc6 is refuted by now, because the Keres attack moves too fast and becomes too powerful... Kasparov in the referred book gives 6...Nc6 an exclamation mark...:
"The most logical response to White's flank attack. Black creates pressure in the center of the board, which requires his opponent to solve the problem of the Knight on d4.
After 7 g5 Nd7 White is at a crossroads" -Kasparov
He goes on with 8 Ndb5 Nb6 9 Bf4 Ne5 and after 10 Qh5 Ng6, optically, it looks dangerous, but Black is pretty fine here...
HA - I also assume stronger moves have been found for White with h4 and Be3 earlier, soooo What is <moro>'s verdict??!! ;)
|Sep-03-19|| ||achieve: Good morning <Chez Moro> - I looked up a few more recently played moves instead of 8 Ndb5, and after eg 8 h4 Be7 9 Be3|
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9...0-0 seems the obvious move, Stockfish online prefers 10 Qd2 (as well as a3 and Be2) over Qh5, but all three are evaluated as +1.00-1.25, so that scare people off, understandibly...
But could you have a look in the cg DBase if there are good level games with refutations?
So <that is> what you were hinting at...hmmmmm....
|Sep-03-19|| ||moronovich: Hi <achieve> !|
Thanks for. your response.Have an awful headdache today,so just a brief answer.
I had nothing concret in my mind,merely wondering why just such a powerful and well respected line/variation has gone out of "fashion" !?
I know the comps-but still.
Sorry about the Memphisto confusion :)
All the best for the remaining day from me to you.
|Sep-03-19|| ||achieve: Yep-- ...Nc6 is busted. Kasparov and Ivanchuk play a6 before ...e6 all of the time, the Keres attack being too powerful, and after g5 black has to play ...h6, after which Kaspy and co scored quite a few points, still...!!!|
So the Scheveningen is quite well, if updated.
I have to say that analysing the Scheveningen was very enjoyable and I expect not for you to align with me. Just was posting some of the play that captured me back in the day, and taken to today. Your question prompted me.
Thanks and be well. chess is still my favourite passtime.
|Sep-05-19|| ||achieve: Morning <moro> - has the headache left the building? I am battling some intestinal problems but it appears to be better now...|
I was thinking what's in a name, and we will never be able to replace words by numbers, but I think what is left of the Scheveningen in the 21st century, is the "scheveningen set-up" - with d6, a6, e6, and h6, in that order, and since ...e6 simply allows the Keres Attack, ...h6, and not ...Nc6, must be played to deal with g5. Anish Giri recently won with this set-up and explains in a video, that one wrong move order, one tempo, decides win or loss for either side, and that you have to know all the details of that. Figuring it out OTB is pretty much undoable.
The last player that I could find who played the authentic Scheveningen (no ...a6) was Ulf Andersson, it's the B81 in the database.
Btw, there is a formidable game played between Keres and Najdorf, back in 1955 in Sweden, that you ought to see.
But of course you would need to be completely free from head-ache, or any ache for that matter... ;)
When I put on my research boots I usually go all the way, which is the whole point of research to me. But yeah, the Scheveningen deserves that, for people like you and me I suppose.
My goal for this weekend is to play a few test games online vs Stockfish with the Scheveningen set-up, to put my findings to the test.
HAO KANOPI (I made that up ;))
|Sep-05-19|| ||moronovich: Morning <achieve> !|
Listening to "Once upon a time in the west".My favourite of all times and the main theme could cover my funeral.Like in the movie.We are loners and we gather,someting happens,and then we are gone.Perhaps for other pastures.And perhaps we meet again.
Yes the headache has left the building :)But it was a long one.Standing ovations when it vanished.
I am shure you know the experience !?
I have no board and pieces at hand(they are down in the basement) so I can not go deeper into your findings in our beloved Scheveningen,but I am happy to recognize that you got (is getting) something of value from the journey.Openings are often like neighbours communicating with each other.
I am curious to see the result of your test games.In a perfect setting you would be the one who gave new life to it !?…
We could call it "Station",like the men in Once Upon..."
HAO KANOPI---all the way and today.
|Sep-07-19|| ||achieve: Hi <Moro> - I may be off line for a few days - but you are right in that I at an advanced age see things I did not see at all, one being that the Scheveningen defence is one of the sharpest around, and that Kasparov for good reason amended by playing ...a6 prior to ...e6. The ...b5 thrust must be initiated asap, given the Keres Attack on the other side.|
Once upon a time, indeed...
|Sep-10-19|| ||virginmind: Hi <moronovich>, looks like we're going to play a football game against each other, in a couple of hours, in Denmark nonetheless! Good luck! ;)|
|Sep-10-19|| ||virginmind: Ah, 2-0 already!... :( I didn't mean to take my good luck wish literally :)|
|Sep-11-19|| ||virginmind: Final score 2-1, but with a last minute penalty defended by your goalkeeper.|
I hope you are fine, <moronovich>. Have you seen the match?
All the best!
|Sep-11-19|| ||moronovich: Hi dear <virginmind> !
No I didn´t see the match but like the result :)|
Fighting a headache today and something with my nose,but trying to stay positive and looking forward to the vuelta.Especiallt tomorrow with a big mountain stage. It is a bit like travelling myself !
And I am very glad to hear you are free from the symptones and I keep all my fingers crossed.
It sounds like a fine little trip you had together the other day.
Will watch the World Cup,but first when the Vuelta is over and there are less players,though I find it quite charming with so many contestants !
Take care and enjoy with all my best wishes.
|Sep-22-19|| ||virginmind: It's been a while...hi <moronovich>, yesterday we've been to the place of my (very) early childhood years, Brehuiesti, a small village north of Romania. That's where my grand parents (mother's line) lived for quite some time and I was spending my summers (I didn't have a holiday simply because I was not in school yet). The house itself is deserted (my grandparents died, house in latter years got to a family member who is out of country for now) but we managed to take a look inside and its surroundings thanks to another distant family member who lives nearby, ocasionaly takes care of the premises and let us in. It was sort of touching, although I remembered very little from those days. We also visited Botosani, a quiet and rather cute town nearby. Weather was great, although a bit cold. |
We arrived home in the evening, a tad tired. I've noticed in the past years I seem to tire more quickly as compared to, say, 7 or 10 years ago. I wonder why, do you think age could be a reason to this? I wouldn't think so, as I was always convinced that age doesn't (seem) to have any sort of effect on me, I usually kept having the same stamina and everything was more or less fine. Sure, a headache from time to time, maybe a bit of cold, but these are normal and temporary. And now, all of a sudden, tireness. Hm...I should investigate a bit the issue. Tireness shouldn't be a part of this world, what do you think? At least not at 55.
Other than this, Nisi is out of the World Cup, and today are the tie breaks of 4th round. Some big names are out, but I guess this is part of life's occurings. "Here today, gone [home] tomorrow"...
And what about you? Does North Sea air begin to change already? I've seen on Ventusky on Friday that a certain storm/huricane in northern Atlantic was raising waves of 13.2 metres hight. Did you ever witness waves that high in your travels accross the seas?
|Sep-22-19|| ||moronovich: good evenig my dear <virginmind> !|
As always a great pleasure to hear from you.And also I have laid low,due to a kind of colon pressure,which is better today-so I better answer you right now :)
I could almost feel the atmosphere in your grand parents house.And understand it was touching you.I tried the same back in 88 and it was big and moving experience.All these memories coming to life.It was litterally(almost)like yesterday.Such a privellege to have had these wonderful people in my life !
They were the loveliest people one could wish for and an excellent buffer to my mothers rather turbulent 2 marriages.I am eternal gratefull to these two people.
About your tiredness : it can very well be a natural process.It happens not seldom around 55,or so.And besides from "age"in it self,you may well also have been under big pressure lately…
But you may very well compensate with all those skills you have learned till now,so the bottom line may be fine !...
But perhaps someone who could check if you need some vitamines or such !? .E.g. D-vitamines seem to help me during the autum-winter.Yoga or pilates are also energy boosters.
I do remember when I was younger and always thought that age (whatever that is) wouldn´t keep me from being still young.And that was the right attitude at that time-but some decades later by now-it is different.Merely feeling my mortality and fragileness,which it takes time and process to cope with,also because it is such a contrast to all those powers of opposite directions which still are within me.Many kids and young men inside and a fresh spirit to boot.
Quite some work to build those bridges.
Not so much energie on the chess,this time,but there is a match in Copenhagen,football,were I pray for the right result.It is too nerve wrecking so Íll beg you farwell and cook some food for Hannah instead.
Take care so long and hugs to you too !
|Oct-04-19|| ||virginmind: Hi <moronovich> and thank you for your kind thoughts. Indeed such memories may bring special feelings into our hearts. |
Upon further consideration, I can only approve you: it must be an age thing, my tireness. Coming and going. But no vitamins or yoga for now. All's fine otherwise. By the way, did I tell you that for 6 years, in my thirties, I kept a relatively strict diet, meaning almost no meat at all (only fish and eggs)? It felt quite good and it indeed resolved at least one medical issue for me. But then I decided to return to being a carnivore, being told by qualified persons that I shouldn't push my luck.
In football we're going to play against Norway in a few days, hopefully it's gonna be a good match and, of course, the best will win (no draws allowed :).
Hugs to you and Hannah.
|Oct-09-19|| ||virginmind: Hi <Diademas>, what about the third part - Bergen and its surroundings - from the description of the places we plan to visit in June, that you so kindly provided? Or you prefer to move our discussion to your forum?|
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