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optimal play
Member since Oct-28-11
"Optimal Play" is when both sides make their best move at each turn, or one of equally good alternatives.

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   optimal play has kibitzed 4523 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Jan-22-18 Kenneth S Rogoff (replies)
 
optimal play: I'm not sure if there's no such thing as racism but I do believe that the PC movement try to make racism out of almost everything to further their political agenda. They use racism as a weapon to attack their opponents and seek to ban anything which they deem "racially ...
 
   Jan-22-18 J L Jacobsen vs W Crane, 1897
 
optimal play: <thegoodanarchist: <optimal play: It's not my pun but isn't it meant to be a play on the term "ass whooping" in conjunction with the name of the losing player?> That's reasonable conjecture, IMO.> Thank you, I think that makes sense. <Cheapo by the Dozen: An ...
 
   Jan-21-18 optimal play chessforum
 
optimal play: <OhioChessFan: "Abiogenesis and evolution are two completely different things. The theory of evolution says absolutely nothing about the origin of life. It merely describes the processes which take place once life has started up." Yeah, that's because the evolutionists got ...
 
   Jan-19-18 Kibitzer's Café (replies)
 
optimal play: <Big Pawn: <op: It means that the author of Kings wasn't interested in re-writing history. There was this "annals of the kings" for that! He was instead interested in drawing theological insights from the various kings of Israel and Judah.> Right, but just because it ...
 
   Jan-17-18 J Spedding vs T M Bradshaw, 1905
 
optimal play: 28...Qc5+! 29...a4! This game is from the 1st round of the New South Wales state championship played in Sydney on 4th August 1905. The final standings were:- Spencer Crakanthorp 9/10 William Henry Jonas 7/10 Thomas Mason Bradshaw 5/10 George W Baynes 4/10 Henry ...
 
   Jan-14-18 W H Jonas vs S Crakanthorp, 1905
 
optimal play: 17...Nb6? More interesting is 17...e5!? e.g. 17...e5 18.fxe5 Nxe5 19.dxe5 Qxe5 ---> with a strong attack! 21.Bf4! wins the exchange. 26.g5! 27.Bxh7+! 27...Kh8 is no better than 27...Kxh7 since 28.Qh5! wins either way. This game is from the 1st round of the New South ...
 
   Jan-12-18 H Taylour vs G W Baynes, 1905
 
optimal play: <TheTamale> You're kidding, right? Heck, if he was playing blindfold he shouldn't have missed the Queen-Bishop attack on the b8-h2 diagonal! Or was it because he didn't have his glasses he mistakenly moved his h-pawn instead of his g-pawn?
 
   Jan-12-18 T M Bradshaw vs S Crakanthorp, 1905
 
optimal play: The score from this game was printed in The Daily Telegraph, Saturday August 19, 1905, page 10 White: T. M. Bradshaw. Black: Spen. Crakanthorp. 01. P to Q 4 ; P to Q 4 02. P to Q B 4 ; P to K 3 03. Kt to Q B 3 ; Kt to K B 3 04. B to B 4 ; B to Kt 5 05. P to Q R 3 ; B ...
 
   Jan-05-18 playground player chessforum (replies)
 
optimal play: Here in Australia today, we are boiling. High winds blowing northern heat this way and that. Probably a great time for climate-change denialists to pop in for another skeptical-science speech. <‘Extreme’ fire and health risks thanks to 40-plus degrees> ...
 
   Dec-28-17 Santa Claus (replies)
 
optimal play: <rogge: Congratulations, <optimal play> :) I'm sure you'll make a lot of new friends in 2018 :)> Thank you <rogge>. I hope I can count you as one of them.
 
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Jun-05-17
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  optimal play: <technical draw: I propose that the creation of woman is greater than the creation of man.>

It does kinda read like Eve was in charge.

The serpent didn't bother about speaking to Adam.

Eve makes the decision to eat the apple and then gives some to her husband who dutifully obeys.

<"19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals."

This is actually the beginning of science. Taxonomy to be exact.>

Do you think this verse implies that Adam could converse with all the animals?

It would certainly explain how Adam & Eve could talk with the serpent.

But after they were expelled from Eden they became divorced from the natural world.

<Big Pawn: ... what you are trying to do is say, "either explain why God did it this way, or evolution is true" ...> Not at all.

I'm simply asking a perfectly reasonable question to which there may be a perfectly logical answer.

In the case of our bodies non-functioning bits and pieces the simple answer is "vestigial traits"!

If it's not "vestigial traits" then what is it?

<"If God created the universe, why isn't everything perfect for us all the time, without trouble or suffering and why do we have to die?">

I don't know?

What do you think?

Jun-05-17
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  Big Pawn: <<"If God created the universe, why isn't everything perfect for us all the time, without trouble or suffering and why do we have to die?">

I don't know?

What do you think?>

I see.

No further explanation required!

Thanks for your help.

Jun-05-17
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  Big Pawn: <<Big Pawn: ... what you are trying to do is say, "either explain why God did it this way, or evolution is true" ...> Not at all.

I'm simply asking a perfectly reasonable question to which there may be a perfectly logical answer.>

You mean you want my help in writing a book on science?

I thought we were talking about what God can and can't do?

I thought you were saying, "If God created man fully formed, then why is the human body not perfect? - and if you can't explain it then I'll continue to be happily drunk on evolution"

Isn't that exactly what you're saying?

But when I enlarged this question to the universe and all that exists, you had no answer!

<Big Pawn: <<"If God created the universe, why isn't everything perfect for us all the time, without trouble or suffering and why do we have to die?">

I don't know?

What do you think?>>

I mean, did you switch the topic entirely when I wasn't looking, such that you are no longer talking about God at all, but are merely looking for biological explanations for unexplained things about the human body?

Or aren't you actually saying, "If God really man fully formed people, he would have done it perfectly, and if you can't explain why it isn't perfect then evolution!"

That's a base level, rank amateur way to reason about what God may or may not have done, in any case, not just about evolution.

You say you're not reasoning this way, but you are. Perhaps one of these days you will drop this bit of fallacious reasoning, that you are so attached to, and move forward from where you are today.

Look at this:

<If it's not "vestigial traits" then what is it?>

How is this relevant? I can't believe that you swallow all this atheist propaganda hook, line and sinker, without any critical thought at all.

Again, "If you can't explain 'what is it?' then EVOLUTION because if God doesn't do it in a way I understand, then EVOLUTION"

Well, I don't think you really understand what I'm saying to you. You don't understand that this is fallacious reasoning that leads nowhere. You've been told this before, but you proudly hang on to it. It's just music to your ears. Good enough for you.

We do agree that evolution has no bearing on whether or not God exists. We do agree that the bible may not be inerrant, and that justified belief that God exists is not tied to biblical inerrancy. But I see no reason to think that macro evolution is true or that the rocks came to life because their isn't a shred of evidence for it and it can't be observed. I think anyone that believes in it, including you, does so because of societal pressure and the need to be accepted in certain intellectual circles.

How about that?

Jun-05-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  optimal play: <Big Pawn: <<"If God created the universe, why isn't everything perfect for us all the time, without trouble or suffering and why do we have to die?">

I don't know?

What do you think?>

I see.

No further explanation required!

Thanks for your help.>

But I don't have any explanation!?

So I haven't been able to help you.

If you asked me why our bodies have various non-functioning bits and pieces, then I could answer your question with "vestigial traits"!

No problem!

But if you're asking me "If God created the universe, why isn't everything perfect for us all the time, without trouble or suffering and why do we have to die?" then I'm afraid I can't give you an answer.

I could have said "it pleased God to do so", but that wouldn't make a lot of sense.

I mean, why would it please God to create a universe where everything isn't perfect all the time, with trouble and suffering where we have to die?

So I don't know?

What do you think?

Jun-05-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  optimal play: Anyway, moving onto your next post...

<you want my help in writing a book on science??>

Umm ... no, I want your help in differentiating between science and theology.

<I thought we were talking about what God can and can't do?>

No we weren't, because we both agree that there's nothing God can't do.

<I thought you were saying, "If God created man fully formed, then why is the human body not perfect? - and if you can't explain it then I'll continue to be happily drunk on evolution"

Isn't that exactly what you're saying?>

Umm ... no, what I was saying was, "If God created man fully formed, then why is the human body not perfect? - and if you can't explain it then I'll go with the logical scientific explanation of 'vestigial traits' which seems to make perfect sense".

<when I enlarged this question to the universe and all that exists, you had no answer!>

That's because you didn't enlarge the question, you changed it!

It's a different question!

I have an answer for the human body, but I don't have an answer for the universe.

Do you have an answer for either?

<did you switch the topic entirely when I wasn't looking, such that you are no longer talking about God at all, but are merely looking for biological explanations for unexplained things about the human body?> No.

<aren't you actually saying, "If God really made man fully-formed, he would have done it perfectly, and if you can't explain why it isn't perfect then evolution!">

What I'm actually saying is "The logical and evidential explanation for 'non-functioning bits and pieces' is "vestigial traits" unless you can come up with something better.

If you insist that God made man fully-formed then why do we have these 'non-functioning bits and pieces'?

If your response is simply "it pleased God to do so", well, you can say that about anything!

<That's a base level, rank amateur way to reason about what God may or may not have done, in any case, not just about evolution.>

Except that I'm not reasoning that way about what God may or may not have done.

<You say you're not reasoning this way, but you are.> No I'm not.

<Perhaps one of these days you will drop this bit of fallacious reasoning, that you are so attached to, and move forward from where you are today.>

My reasoning is not fallacious as I have already explained.

<I can't believe that you swallow all this atheist propaganda hook, line and sinker, without any critical thought at all.>

It's not atheist propaganda, it's scientific reasoning.

<"If you can't explain 'what is it?' then EVOLUTION because if God doesn't do it in a way I understand, then EVOLUTION">

Not necessarily. It's simply a matter of examining the evidence, and if the evidence points to evolution, then so be it.

<Well, I don't think you really understand what I'm saying to you. You don't understand that this is fallacious reasoning that leads nowhere. You've been told this before, but you proudly hang on to it. It's just music to your ears. Good enough for you.>

I have a completely open mind on the matter.

If you can show me that it is more logical to think that our 'non-functioning bits and pieces' exist because it pleased God to make Adam that way rather than because of evolution, then I will accept your argument.

<We do agree that evolution has no bearing on whether or not God exists.> Agreed.

<We do agree that the bible may not be inerrant, and that justified belief that God exists is not tied to biblical inerrancy.> Agreed.

<But I see no reason to think that macro evolution is true or that the rocks came to life because their isn't a shred of evidence for it and it can't be observed.>

I see reasons to think that macro evolution is true but not that rocks came to life.

<I think anyone that believes in it, including you, does so because of societal pressure and the need to be accepted in certain intellectual circles.

How about that?>

I think anyone that rejects evolution, including you, does so because of political pressure and the need to be accepted in certain ideological circles.

How about that?

Jun-05-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  technical draw: <Do you think this verse implies that Adam could converse with all the animals?>

No. I think this verse implies the beginning of scientific thought.

Dec-28-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  optimal play: After a few months absence my forum is once again open for intellectually stimulating dialogue.

Perceptive observers will notice that I have a new avatar.

My previous avatar, which I introduced to this site, has disappeared from the available options which presumably means someone else has taken it.

I haven't found out who that is yet, but I would be interested to know why he chose it.

So, pending the return of my avatar I have decided to simply use a recent photo of myself.

Anyway, I hope everybody had a merry Christmas and will enjoy a prosperous 2018.

Dec-29-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Big Pawn: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year <Optimal Play>!

I do like your old avatar better. I think I was just used to it. It was pretty cool too.

In the news today I read this headline:

<Berlin New Year's Eve party to have a 'safe space' for women after hundreds reported being assaulted by men with migrant backgrounds at Cologne celebrations two years ago>

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art... Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

The women need protection from multiculturalism, from diversity, from Merkel's policies which reflect modern liberal thinking these days.

It just seems that overall, in a general sense, the Muzzies and westerners are no compatible. They can't live together without there being major issues because they are too different from one another.

Who knows. Maybe this is how nations got started in the first place. Germany for the Germans, Japan for the Japanese, Arab nations for the Muzzies, China for the Chinese, Australia for the Aussies and the USA for regular Americans.

Did you ever notice that talk of enrichment by diversity is always aimed at white western countries? No one is calling for this or that African nation to be more diverse by adding white people to it. The Jewish state of Israel is for the Jews (although they do have others living there peacefully). No one is claiming that Japan suffers from homogeneity.

Just imagine if the UN was trying to dump a bunch of white homosexual men into Iran, for the sake of diversity. They could be called refugees if you like. Just imagine that. No, no, no. We all know what diversity really means, don't we?

Dec-29-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Happy Holidays <optimal play>.
Dec-29-17
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  optimal play: <Big Pawn> Welcome back, mate!

I hope you had a merry Christmas and I wish you a prosperous and fortunate 2018.

I was a bit miffed that my avatar was not in the available list, since I brought it in, but I suppose someone must be using it. None of the available avatars appealed to me so I just came up with a new contribution again. I always like to be original.

You know, if people would just add up the total cost of having Muzzies living amongst us, I'm sure no reasonable person would conclude it's worth it. They're a drain on our society.

Of course Muzzies and Westerners are not compatible, and you know who says that? The Muzzies!

The Muzzies arrive here and demand that we conform to their sharia law, and of course the idiot libtards institute a whole array of new political correctness initiatives to make these intolerant medieval troglodytes feel right at home as if they were living back in Saudi Arabia or Iran -- with of course one notable exception -- that of LGBTIQ superiority!

There will come a time when the Muzzies have gained sufficient power to challenge even the sacred cow of homosexual dominance in Western society, then you'll see the two uncomfortable allies of Islam and Secular Atheism turn on each other.

Nations like Australia and America are immigrant countries, but the immigrants must conform and assimilate to the prevalent culture otherwise there will be a breakdown in civil society, which is what we're now witnessing all around the Western world.

Dec-29-17
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  optimal play: <Penguincw: Happy Holidays <optimal play>.> I will accept your greeting in what I believe is a genuine and well-meant felicitation, however I feel compelled to point out that I consider greetings such as "Happy Holidays" and "Seasons Greetings" at Christmas time to be offensive and insulting.

I'm sure you didn't mean that, but the political correctness which pervades our society to the extent where people won't even say "Merry Christmas" for fear of offending a minority group has got completely out of hand to the point of insanity.

Therefore, it is ironic that in being politically correct and not saying "Merry Christmas", but using the PC-approved "Happy Holidays", you have offended and insulted me.

Anyway, allow me to wish you a genuine and sincere "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year" and I hope you're not a leftist antifa libtard who will explode with rage at receiving an overtly Christian greeting.

Dec-29-17
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  Big Pawn: As you are probably aware, <op>, Trump has made a big point of it to bring back the Merry Christmas greeting!

Under Obama and the libs, we were shamed if we said Merry Christmas. They made it a dirty word because it has "Christ" in it.

Trump made clear that we are saying Merry Christmas again.

I love my president.

Dec-29-17
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  saffuna: Obama saying "Merry Christmas" about thirty different times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d7...

Dec-29-17
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  Big Pawn: Muslim Council Orders Pakistani Woman To Be Gang Raped

Paul Joseph Watson reports on a Pakistani woman who was gang raped after her local Muslim City Council ordered the violation to be done due to her choosing who would be her future husband.

https://www.facebook.com/8025673257...

Dec-29-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Hello <optimal play>.

Sorry if I offended you. No harm or politics intended. The reason why I wrote "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" is well, December 25th is in the past. However, the Holiday season is still underway, so I wished you a Happy Holidays. Had I made the post on December 25th (or shortly before that) I would've more likely said "Merry Christmas".

Now for some users, even for posts written on or shortly prior to Christmas, I did write "Happy Holidays" instead of the other greeting you suggested. For those users, nothing personal, or political. It's just that, saying "Merry Christmas" 25 times can be a bit repetitive for me, so I like to mix it up a bit. (if my first point doesn't stand, my second one should)

Once again, nothing personal or politics, and my apologies. I'll try to remember this for next year.

Anyway, I'll try again: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Dec-29-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  optimal play: <Big Pawn: Muslim Council Orders Pakistani Woman To Be Gang Raped>

That's what Muslim Councils do.

They dispense Islamic justice according to Sharia Law.

Just wait until these Muslim Councils start popping up in western countries and demand that they be allowed to do the same sort of thing in Europe, America, Canada & Australia.

As you've been away for the past few months, you wouldn't have noticed my excerpts on the Rogoff page from 'Hiding in the Light: Why I Risked Everything to Leave Islam and Follow Jesus' by Rifqa Bary

https://www.amazon.com/Hiding-Light...

Here's a brief extract from the passage were Rifqa's Muslim father finds out she's a Christian...

He burst in as I sank back against the wall, his commanding presence nearly emptying the room of oxygen. I was terrified. Breathless.

"Are you a Christian?!" he screamed...

I closed my eyes, bracing myself for the beating I knew was coming.

I will not deny You, Lord. I will not deny You, Lord, I repeated silently to myself...

Yet he roared at an even higher volume, continuing with the questions.

"Have you been baptized, Rifqa?! Answer me!" ... "If you are a Christian," he yelled, "I am going to kill you! Do you understand?"

...[A] simple Muslim man who aims to follow his religion must sometimes do the unthinkable to maintain his honor. If that requires sacrificing his rebellious daughter for an offense we both knew to be unforgiveable to him, so be it.

pages 89-90

Hereunder is another brief extract where Rifqa tells what happened after their mosque in Ohio found out about her conversion...

Stepping into the house, the first thing I saw was my mother pacing the floor in agitation. Her eyes were red and swollen from crying. She was obviously waiting to see me. She waived her hands at the sight of my arrival, shouting, "The mosque has been ringing our phones off the hook. They want your father to take care of you or they will have to do it. He's cutting his trip short and coming home this Sunday. How could you bring such shame to us, Rifqa? How?!" she said, slurping a chunk of saliva and spitting it in my face.

I felt worse than a dog.

This was as bad as it could get. Now that the mosque leaders had found out about my conversion, it was over. I was done for.

pages 95-96

And another extract exposing the extent of Muslim "honour killings" in America...

Blake handed me a newspaper article with the headline "Honor Killing in America." It was the story of a young girl in Texas who, along with her sister, had been shot and killed by their father in the back of his taxicab because they'd become too Westernized, taking non-Muslim boyfriends. Googling the account later, I discovered it to be just the tip of a tragic iceberg: fathers killing daughters and brothers killing sisters. Most of the reports involved childhood offenses equally as minor as the girls' actions in Texas - manner of dress, choice of friends - nothing compared to my own renouncing of Islam and embracing of Christianity, dishonoring both faith and family. Yet the blood of all these girls testified to the reality of my experience.

I honestly hadn't heard these reports before. I just knew I hadn't imagined or exaggerated what had happened in my home. It was horrible. It was abusive. It was real. And the more I read, the more it made sense. I was even more convinced that my parents and the mosque meant business when they said they'd "take care" of me.

page 143

Dec-29-17
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  optimal play: <Penguincw> Thank you for your explanation and perhaps I should have noted your greeting was post-Christmas day, although technically we're still in the Christmas season for a few more days.

As I said in my earlier post, I accepted your greeting in what I correctly believed was a genuine and well-meant felicitation, and for that I thank you.

My little stand against political correctness at Christmas certainly isn't meant to upset anyone, but it's reached the stage where I make a point about it as diplomatically as possible.

Anyway, thank you again for your Christmas and New Year wishes and I hope you have an enjoyable New Year's celebration and a prosperous and fortunate 2018.

Please feel free to drop by here anytime as you'll always be welcome.

Dec-29-17
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  Big Pawn: <op>, I did actually catch those posts on rogoff as I visited the page just to see if anyone was talking about anything interesting, even though I wasn't going to comment, and I saw that.

You held <mort's> feet to the fire and didn't let up or get off point. Very good.

Back to Hiding in the Light, the libs simply do not accept such testimony! That's all there is to it! They read the words but reject it immediately. Then they say, "Well, THE CHURCH also did terrible things back in 1100 A.D.".

The libs are hell bent on bringing as many Muzzies in as possible, at least over here in the US. It's as if they looked at 911 and with mouths still wide open they said, "Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's suddenly import massive numbers of Muzzies and walk on eggshells around them - and call anyone who disagrees with this idea a racist!"

Not Trump though, he knows the real deal just like you and I, and he doesn't try to sugarcoat the truth either. I swear, if he wasn't elected president, we'd have Muzzie Councils all over the country in 8 years time.

Dec-30-17
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  diceman: <saffuna:

Obama saying "Merry Christmas" about thirty different times:>

He also said:

Marriage is between a man and woman

You can keep your doctor keep your plan.

You'll have to excuse saffuna,
he seems to be, Big Pawn "triggered."

Jan-05-18
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  optimal play: <Big Pawn> It was actually Zanzy's feet who felt the full blistering heat of my argument.

Just to re-cap what transpired, I posted a couple of brief extracts from a book I had recently read, "Hiding in the Light: Why I Risked Everything to Leave Islam and Follow Jesus" by Rifqa Bary, her autobiography in which she tells the story of her desperate attempt to escape the oppression of her Muslim family and follow Jesus.

https://www.amazon.com/Hiding-Light...

Just because she converted to Christianity, her Muslim parents and their mosque -- situated in Ohio -- were determined to carry out an 'honour killing' because they viewed her conversion as a dishonour to them.

Well, for some inexplicable reason, that sent <zanzibar> ballistic!

He was extremely upset about this aspect of Islam being exposed and set about attacking me for no other reason than including this matter in a discussion about Islam in the West.

In an attempt to try and understand his point of view, I asked if he were a Muslim, and if he could share his insights with us on the cultural enrichment brought to the West by Islam.

Now of course nobody is obliged to reveal anything about themselves on the internet they choose not to, but if someone is particularly vehement in his defence of a certain religion then it begs the question as to whether he actually belongs to that religion.

If he says "Yes, I'm a Sunni Muslim from Saudi Arabia" then it helps us to better understand his point of view since we know from whence it emanates.

I mean, it's not like he's really being asked anything personal, like his name or family or such.

If I asked him if he was a supporter of the Democratic party would that be unreasonable?

If I asked him if he lived in the USA would that be unreasonable?

Anyway, without my question being answered, Zanzy and a few others immediately began firing a whole series of questions at me, all of which I answered fully in order to engage in a genuine exchange of ideas.

The more I sought to understand their point of view, the more virulent they became towards me, as if they were intent on guarding deep dark secrets.

Anyway, it had got to the point where I had given up on Zanzy and had simply answered a question put to me by <HeMateMe> when Zanzy injected himself back into the debate in a very argumentive mood, not interested in genuine debate, but just back-and-forth insults.

I continued to ignore Zanzy and was answering some questions from <Colonel Mortimer> when again Zanzy jumped in with his unprovoked personal attacks against me.

In the end I simply decided that if Zanzy wasn't interested in a genuine discussion about the benefits or otherwise of Islamic immigration to the West, then he needn't involve himself, but if he wanted to genuinely engage in a proper debate, he would need to start being honest with the good people of Rogoff.

It was then that Zanzy quietly slunk away with his tail between his legs, unable and unwilling to engage in a genuine and honest debate about his Islamic beliefs and their impact upon Western culture.

Jan-06-18
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  Big Pawn: That is an excellent recounting of the discussion. I remember it exactly like that. You answered all of their questions directly and promptly and they answered none of yours.

I liked how you answered their questions right away and without any unnecessary noise and then restated your question to them right away, keeping them on point and on the hook.

Glad your didn't get distracted by their constant deflections and red herrings. I like seeing that. Yes, then he did slink away with his tail between his legs.

That's how it's done. The other style, which is not as good, is to answer everything they throw up, but then they can sneak away in the confusion. Too many points. It's best to stay to one single point until it is resolved.

Jan-21-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  optimal play: Hereunder is an OTB game I recently played...

I have the white pieces.

1.e4 Nc6

The Nimzowitsch defence.

2.d4 d6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 Be7 7.Be2 g5 8.Bg3 g4 9.Ng1 Bd7 10.Bxg4 h5 11.Be2 d5 12.exd5 exd5 13.Nf3 Bb4 14.0-0 Bxc3 15.bxc3 h4 16.Bxh4 Bg4 17.Bg5 Qd6 18.Re1 Bxf3 19.Bxf3+ Ne7 20.g3 0-0-0 21.Bxf6 Qxf6 22.Bg4+ Kb8 23.Qf3 Ng8 24.Qxf6 Nxf6 25.Bf5 Rde8 26.Rxe8+ Nxe8 27.Bd7 Nf6 28.Bf5 Re8 29.Kf1 c6 30.Re1 Kc7 31.Rxe8 Nxe8 32.Ke2 Nd6 33.Bd3 Ne8 34.c4 Kd6 35.cxd5 Kxd5 36.c3 c5 37.Ke3 cxd4+ 38.cxd4 Ke6 39.f4 f5 40.a4 a6 41.Bc4+ Ke7 42.d5 Nd6 43.Kd4 Kf6 44.Kc5 Ne4+ 45.Kb6 Ke7


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Black has positioned his knight at e4 so that if Kxb7 then Nd6+ wins the bishop.

I have a won game since clearly B+5P beats N+3P so I felt confident that sacrificing the bishop for black’s a&b pawns should result in either my a or d pawn queening, thus the knight moving to d6, rather than a threat, is actually an opportunity to quickly bring about the win.

46.Kxb7 Nd6+ 47.Kxa6 Nxc4 48.a5 Ne3 49.Kb7 1-0


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Jan-21-18
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  OhioChessFan: "Abiogenesis and evolution are two completely different things. The theory of evolution says absolutely nothing about the origin of life. It merely describes the processes which take place once life has started up."

Yeah, that's because the evolutionists got their brains beat in when they tried to argue it. They don't admit now they lost that battle.

Jan-21-18
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  OhioChessFan: Nobel winner admits to poor scientific methodology and retracts peer reviewed paper about RNA replication:

<The errors were “definitely embarrassing,” Szostak told us:

In retrospect, we were totally blinded by our belief [in our findings]…we were not as careful or rigorous as we should have been (and as Tivoli was) in interpreting these experiments.

Szostak added:

The only saving grace is that we are the ones who discovered and corrected our own errors, and figured out what was going on.>

http://retractionwatch.com/2017/12/...

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  optimal play: <OhioChessFan: "Abiogenesis and evolution are two completely different things. The theory of evolution says absolutely nothing about the origin of life. It merely describes the processes which take place once life has started up."

Yeah, that's because the evolutionists got their brains beat in when they tried to argue it. They don't admit now they lost that battle.>

Would you care to post evidence of the evolutionists getting their brains beat in and admitting they lost that battle?

Your subsequent post certainly doesn't do that.

<OhioChessFan: Nobel winner admits to poor scientific methodology and retracts peer reviewed paper about RNA replication:

<The errors were “definitely embarrassing,” Szostak told us:

In retrospect, we were totally blinded by our belief [in our findings]…we were not as careful or rigorous as we should have been (and as Tivoli was) in interpreting these experiments.

Szostak added:

The only saving grace is that we are the ones who discovered and corrected our own errors, and figured out what was going on.>

http://retractionwatch.com/2017/12/...

As per a number of comments underneath that article...

"This is how it is supposed to work. Tip of the cap to all involved including the very senior and very junior scientists for doing the right thing."

"Olsen nails it: 'As a scientist the job is to troubleshoot. You can’t help nor can you ignore where that takes you. I fulfilled my obligation to insure that no one after me would waste their time on this.'”

"Honest scientists recognize this and correct their honest mistakes as soon as possible. Dishonest scientists stonewall, attack the whistleblower and do all they can to avoid accountability for their dishonest data."

"This is how science is supposed to be done. Anyone who thinks that there is a prodigious lab out there that has NOT accidentally published incorrect science has no idea what it is to work in a prodigious lab. What sets this lab apart is that not only were they willing to retract their mistakes but they uncovered those mistakes themselves. They self corrected."

"Correction, revision, and retraction of findings are a key mechanisms in the progress of science. No stigma should be associated with the messy pursuit of truth sought in good faith. Of course, it should surprise no thinking person to find that science doesn’t really proceed in the breezy manner that it’s portrayed by university press offices and science journalists. Good on Tivoli and Jack for upholding the high standards we expect for the field."

<OCF> I'm not sure if your link to that article was meant to be some sort of "Gotcha! This totally disproves evolution!" or whatever, but this sort of thing is perfectly normal in the uneven progress of science whereby setbacks are a normal part of the process.

And as for abiogenesis, it is universally acknowlegded that no evidence has been provided to support the spontaneous emergence of life. Experiments will of course continue but this is no cause for theists, or even Christians, to be concerned.

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