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|May-14-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: Thanks very much. :) It's regrettable that we should have to take generic precautions, but I'm afraid it's best. |
Good to read your work was well-received; I should think it would be. :) Perhaps sometime we might correspond privately and explore these subjects freely and in greater detail.
Yes, the location here is strategic for seafarers (for exploration, for settlement, for warfare, for defense, for trading, for commerce, for fishing, for sport, for tourism -- you name it), as are certain locations farther east. Scientific opinion has yet to coalesce in matters of local archaeology, and while I have serious doubt, as you do, about the Viking provenance of a given structure, I have far less doubt about Viking exploration of nearby shores in the pre-Columbian era.
|May-18-16|| ||Tabanus: <luft> If I was rich and retired from work, and had a family backing me in investigating the Norse in America, I would certainly consider it! Perhaps that would a the way to reach 100 years of age, like Helge Ingstad (1899-2001)! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helge...|
|May-19-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: While I know from your kibitzes that your work is sometimes a burden, I'm sure you do it exceptionally well. For my part, I remain fully licensed, and as I've enjoyed some success (representing big companies and fellow attorneys can be remunerative, though it's not spiritually rewarding; pro bono work is better for the soul), fortunately I don't need to be as active as I once was. My profession has taken a toll on my nerves; I'm rather a retiring and cheerful person, really, intellectually honest but not adversarial by nature, and so my vocation is unsuited to my temperament. I really enjoyed clerking for a federal judge (lots of research and writing, though I love oral argument too), and I loved teaching law as a graduate-law-school professor. Academia has its own challenges; teaching was fruitful in its day. So I hear you. :) |
I'm fortunate to enjoy, and grateful for, the love and caring of my own family, and while I'm far from rich, I enjoy living alone, and I love where I live, and I'm really grateful to have the time and resources to devote some of my efforts to volunteering here on CG. This is a great place; working with you makes it all the more worthwhile. :) Great fun, and some good work gets done, too.
I floated the idea of our possibly e-mailing privately simply to facilitate and to enhance communication. Please know that just as you respect me and my privacy, I respect you and yours. I'm truly fascinated by the archaelogical and cultural topic we've skirted, and by your work in this area. Maybe someday we might discuss this further without fear or risk of divulging too much personal information in this forum. Just an idea for your consideration; no pressure, my friend. :) Always a pleasure; hope you're well.
|May-20-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: Thanks so much for reaching out to Dr. Privonitz. As you know, I'm rarely hesitant to take such a step, but for some reason I was concerned perhaps I'd be bothering her if I reached out. (I recall the reverse some months ago, in another context, when you had been reticent, and I reached out, and that worked out well also.) Kudos to you! :) I'm gratified to read that Dr. Privonitz is searching for her grandfather's date-of-death, and is interested in what we've uncovered and are sharing about him. I had also been a bit concerned that perhaps his internment or other aspects of his life and history might prove somewhat upsetting for a family member to revisit; I'm glad to see that is not the case, or at least does not deter Dr. Privonitz from offering her assistance. |
I'd like to write a biography; would that be O.K. with you? That way, when Dr. Privonitz checks in, she will see the fruits of our labors distilled, and she will be able to savor them without having to wade through the kibitzes (most of which I think are superb, by the way). If that's O.K. with you, should I wait for <MissScarlett> to change the player-bio name-header? Would it be best to wait for the date-of-death to arrive? Please let me know how you'd like to proceed. Again, that's great work, my friend, and hats off to you for going straight to the best source for the straight dope. :)
|May-21-16|| ||Tabanus: <I'd like to write a biography; would that be O.K. with you?> Hallah, that's exactly what I was hoping for! :) I realize I should do it, but I have little energy and you are better qualified. Please go ahead! I was also thinking full name would be better for her, and sent a new slip yesterday. But now CG is slow again. No need to wait for date-of-death, IMO. And if she cannot find a picture, I think hemy's picture is usable.|
The Norse... will be my armchair hobby, at most. I'm grateful for your offer, and will remember it! But now I'm married to a filipina (of my age), and after retirement it's likely that we will spend a lot of time in the Philippines. With the consequences this might have for my actions here :) I'm also not an archaeologist, and not even a scientist. I took a masters degree in biology long time ago, and 3 times turned down offers to study for Dr., because I felt that taking care of our animal collections was more important. I'm now employed as a technician, "for practical purposes" as they told me. With the result that my self-made databases, with about 250.000 entries, will be dumped into a government database, and the animals left with no care again, when I retire.
Btw, on my identity: it's no big secret (considering my profession), but I prefer to have it undisclosed. Some CG members have found out anyway, and perhaps you as well :)
|May-21-16|| ||OhioChessFan: A few months back, there was some discussion of who the people contributing on this site are doing it for. That got me to thinking about my contributions here. Most of them are for me. Unashamedly, guiltlessly, the vast majority are for my amusement. I have left little Easter Eggs all over this site. I have quotes on player pages made by someone famous with the same last name. And often, that is the only thing on that player page. I have puns on games that apparently have never been seen and probably will never be used, and I don't care a whit. I got a bit of pleasure in thinking of it and recording it and if someone else does/doesn't see it, it doesn't matter. Many people know me for my song parodies. Those are mostly about me. I have found a creative outlet that I never knew I had. It's nice people like them, but if people comment or not, I don't care too much.|
However, cough, cough, there's a few spots it's about someone else. Team games, of course. Comments on the Puzzle of the Day where I try to teach a little something or another. And most importantly, the bios and WCC intros. I actually work at those, and have spent much time considering even a single word. I get a bit of pleasure from a job well done, but for the most part, that's for someone else. Whether a young chess player looking to learn a little about the game's history, or a Googler with only a passing interest in the game who might have seen a link here that looked interesting enough to follow, or that rare hard core chess fan who wants to know some of the details of players and games and tournaments. I'm working for them. And yet, when I read Jess's point that it could all disappear tomorrow, I was saddened to realize that it might not possibly, but probably, disappear. I am a rather lazy person, and a rather self serving person. One of the few areas in my life I've worked hard, and for others, could just vanish-irretrievably, and completely.
I won't pursue the philosophical path that opens when one considers such things, but I sort of feel like that occasional kid who is greatly saddened to learn there is no Santa Claus. Most want to know the truth, feel mature in having figured out the truth, or feel proud someone considered them old enough to have been told the truth, but a few wish they could have held on to the innocent belief a little longer.
If I worked hard at it, this might all come together in some big finish that can be distilled down into one line. I am not in the mood to do it.
I shall stop my descent into pathos now. Cheers.
|May-21-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: That's great! Thanks for the go-ahead on A.H.P. :) I'll do my best to commemorate our collective efforts, which have revivified him in the way history can do, and which have helped to rescue him from oblivion, and I'll do my best to do him, his memory, and his family proud. Your work remains superb and indispensable, as always. It's such a pleasure to work together and to make meaningful progress in discovering and documenting a player's professional, personal, and social history. And it's fun! |
I knew you were a biologist working at a museum in Norway, and I figure with some searching I will find those works of yours to which you adverted (which I'm eager to read; I will search them out), but I haven't made any special effort yet to discern your true identity. I expect in due course I'll come to know more, as I read your works, and of course I'll keep your information private and confidential, as it emerges in my research. If I should come across an e-mail address (perhaps in your bibliography, or in one of your three papers on the island farm, or elsewhere), I hope you will not mind if someday I contact you that way.
Thanks for the information! You and your wife are always welcome to pay a visit should you find yourselves in the vicinity. :) I figured you weren't an archaeologist, but with your seriousness of purpose and your dogged and thoughtful scholarly nature, I know you would master any field to which you put your mind and devoted your efforts. I admire your eschewing a Ph.D. in favor of continuing your work with the animal collections you study and superintend.
I empathize with your chagrin at contemplating what might happen to your self-made databases and to those collections after your retirement; of course your concerns are genuine and laudable. I can also understand how those concerns are echoed in your concern about longevity of work done and entries made here on CG. I know those concerns were also prompted by <jfq's> understandable worries; she has of late clarified and tempered her expressions of concern, but her concerns subsist nevertheless, and understandably so. Who knows what will happen? I believe CG will endure, at least for some time; I hope it will prosper, and I believe our endeavors here do have some meaning, for us and for others too, and I hope they prove durable and enduring.
"Technician for practical purposes": well, often titles benefit those who bestow them more than they do those upon whom they are bestowed. Dr. Einstein worked as a patent clerk; T.S. Eliot worked as a bank clerk; Wallace Stevens was an insurance executive. In my undergraduate days, I studied under a "lecturer" who knew more than any full professor there. Long ago I lost my faith in institutions and in those who run them; I figured I'd just do my best to make my modest contributions to our human condition, and let the rest sort itself out. So keep up your good, hard work with heterobranch snails in alcohol; there is inherent as well as academic value in what you do, and perhaps your work will survive your retirement despite your legitimate concerns. More soon. :)
|May-21-16|| ||OhioChessFan: <Btw, on my identity: it's no big secret >|
|May-21-16|| ||Tabanus: <luft> Thanks for those encouraging words :) You are indeed a master writer! Regarding institutions, I don't think my work is entirely in vain, but the system that made my job necessary still persists - unchanged. So that in another 50 years or so, they will probably have to hire another Tab to do the dirty work. Oh, and I could probably find out now exactly who YOU are, but I haven't tried much yet :)|
<Ohio> Correct! So you know also. FWIW, jfq's concerns may be partly based on other things, i. e. she may be using the longevity argument as an excuse. I don't buy her reasoning 100%, and still think she'll be back! :)
|May-21-16|| ||Tabanus: <Ohio> Cheer up. I like your contributions, and know that others do, too. And it's not only one guy in a basement. They are at least two, helped by a few more. Plus they are backed by 20-20 Technologies, a big company. So that if one of the core persons perishes, the other one can take over, or if they both perish, surely another chess interested person (after some time) can take over, as long as there is money to earn. <luft> knows more about such things, but that's what I like to believe!|
|May-21-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab> <OhioChessFan>: Here's the recent post by <jfq> to which I adverted above, in which, to my mind at least, she tempered and clarified her expressions of concern about our work vis-ŕ-vis CG's longevity: jessicafischerqueen chessforum (kibitz #31658).|
|May-21-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: You're welcome, and thank you for the compliment. :) I really appreciate that. Glad you haven't tried much to discover my identity; I'm happy to divulge it to you privately, if and when we find ourselves corresponding that way. I completely trust you, and your discretion; yes, I have faith in your detective skills, and I'm grateful you use them for good, and to further our research; for now, I'm comfortable with mutual anonymity, and I hope eventually we'll be able to message off this forum, so we'll be able simply to write freely and not have to resort to circumambient periphrasation or periphrastic circumlocution in order to protect ourselves from those who might misuse personal information. |
<OhioChessFan>: I value your contributions, and I respect you for them; though I've not yet knowingly found any of the Easter Eggs you've left, I always take your analysis and your commentary seriously, and I pay attention to your kibitzes and to what you write in them. I also enjoy your humor, and I especially enjoy your submissions to <Annie K.'s> forum. And I don't believe your contributions are at all in vain, and I do believe they'll endure, along with <Tab's> and mine and others' as well. It's heartening to read that CG has afforded you a creative outlet for energies and talents you've harnessed and expressed, and I know you've made meaningful contributions here that will confer benefit and reward upon anyone who is fortunate enough to read them. Take heart, and be of good cheer. I have faith enough in CG to stay, and I'm glad you and <Tab> and others do too. Kind regards.
P.S.: There is a Santa Claus! His name is <SwitchingQuylthulg>. :)
|May-22-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: I wrote the player biography for A.H. Privonitz; I hope you dig it. Please let me know when you hear from Dr. Privonitz; I'd like to add any text that might need to be added. Of course feel free to add date-of-death if she supplies it. I have a whole bunch of his games to submit for upload, but first I need some source-details, and to sort out some PGN fine-points. I'll write you tomorrow with some inquiries about sources. I plan to key each and every reference I made in his bio to a publication in which his games appeared to a detailed pinpoint citation for that publication (and, eventually, I hope, to links to the uploaded games themselves), but first I need more specific information about many of the published sources mentioned in the kibitzes. |
Right now, I'm off to have some strawberry ice-cream with fresh strawberries that have been marinating overnight in simple syrup featuring raw Colombian cane sugar. I just polished off several helpings of jambalaya made with onion, garlic, green pepper, malaguetinha pepper (from Brazil; hot!), and fresh hot sausage. I sauteed them in olive oil and butter for a good long while, added the boiled rice and water, and let it all simmer. It was delicious, but now I need the ice-cream 'n' berries to douse the flames. :)
Hope you're well, big guy. More anon. Best to you. :)
|May-23-16|| ||Tabanus: <luft> There was a new mail this morning! With dod etc., etc., and I posted it to the Arthur Hermann Privonitz page. I also added dod to the bio, plus two German letters "ä" which may not be on your keyboard :) And replied to Dr. Privonitz and informed her about the latest developments -- your bio is brilliant!|
Good grief, I'm fortunate to be served the hot stuff by my wife, but that sounds really hot. Yesterday we were on a long driving trip, to an area which I've never been to despite 40 years in town, and we arrived back home at almost midnight. Right now, I'm a little sleepy and the snails are waiting again. Not that *they* are complaining.
Please ask about the sources, I'll try to help as best I can.
|May-23-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: That's great news! Thanks for posting additional information from Dr. Privonitz, and for adding date-of-death. I updated the bio accordingly. |
Thanks too for adding "ä" to "Schachblätter" and to "Schackvärlden"; I had not been familiar with those publications prior to working on A.H. Privonitz's bio. Fortunately, "ä" is one of the characters I can readily access as an ASCII code using ALT + my numerical keypad. As I receive messages from various persons, sometimes the diacritics are missing; that's one reason I'm chasing down sources. :)
They're not too hot, but the little red malaguetinhas aren't short on Scoville units either, that's for sure. They're a slow burn. Very tasty too; not just heat, but spice. Perfect for such a dish.
Glad you were able to venture out of town. One good thing about snails on alcohol: they don't complain too much. :)
I'll be back to you presently with some questions about sources. Thanks for the compliment, and for the support. More soon.
|May-23-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: Here are my inquiries about the sources you've adduced in the kibitzing (now consolidated, thanks to your copying!) on A.H. Privonitz:|
Falkirk Herald, April 8, 1914, and Birmingham Daily Post, July 14, 1914: could you please provide page numbers?
Irving Chernev, 1000 Best Short Games of Chess: could you please provide the place and date of publication, and the name of the publisher and edition? Thanks for the pinpoint cites to pages.
|May-23-16|| ||Tabanus: <luft> Falkirk Herald, April 8, 1914, page 4, and Birmingham Daily Post, July 14, 1914, page 11. |
Chernev, 1000 Best Short Games of Chess was not from me but from my copy of hemy's post of Jan-28-16. The first ed. was Simon & Schuster, New York 1955: http://www.amazon.com/1000-Best-Sho...
|May-23-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: Thanks so much!|
|May-25-16|| ||Tabanus: <luft> You are welcome :)|
Btw, perhaps soon time to delete "ongoing" from the bio. No new mail from her today, and before it's forgotten.
|May-25-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: Thanks for your message. It's done. :)|
I'm in direct touch with <hemy> by e-mail, and I gather you are too. I gather he will send to you directly the two Privonitz photographs (a captioned headshot and a photo of him playing over-the-'board) and the caricature-scan he sent to me, so they may be forwarded to Dr. Privonitz. I'm gratified that she enjoys and appreciates the bio of her grandfather; that's good to read.
Would it be all right if you and I communicated (indirectly at first, later directly) by e-mail? If you don't mind, and if <hemy> doesn't mind, I'd be grateful. That way, you and I can communicate privately, and neither of us has to post his address, as <hemy> so graciously did. I'm happy to send <hemy> a message that he can forward to you, so you might reply to me directly, privately, and confidentially. Of course all information remains confidential; I would never share your or <hemy's> information with anyone without your or his express permission. Anyway, please let me know. Thanks, and I hope you're having a good day today. :)
|May-25-16|| ||Tabanus: <luft> Good afternoon. The pictures are already sent to Dr. P! He replied instantly to the mail from my job computer, and I forwarded it right away. Yes, <hemy> can send you my e-mail, and he can also send yours to me! This way, I'll know more than your first name :)|
|May-25-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: Glad the images have been forwarded to Dr. P. I'll be in touch presently via e-mail to <hemy>. Thanks! :)|
|May-26-16|| ||Tabanus: <luft> What I meant yesterday was that he can send you my e-mail <address> :)|
And Privonitz saved to the WB: https://web.archive.org/web/2016052... :)
|May-26-16|| ||luftforlife: <Tab>: Good to read! I received your e-mail messages, and sent you one myself. Glad we are able now to communicate that way as well. :)|
It is reassuring that digital information is stored in the Internet Archive, and that cached webpages are available through the Wayback Machine. Brewster Kahle has done an excellent job of marshalling support and resources, and he has furthered the cause and the wholesome mission of online libraries and archives, including IA, by preserving a multitude of manifold materials and facilitating ready access to them while honoring intellectual-property rights and following the law. He's been at the forefront of the Internet frontier for some time, and we're all beneficiaries of his determination, vision, and wisdom.
|May-26-16|| ||Tabanus: <luft> I checked today and one of the Saunders bios were there (copied three times), the other not! Also the Privonitz bio was not there. So I added it to WB, although I suppose it would have been added anyway (from WB's "crawling"), sooner or later.|
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