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Tabanus
Member since Feb-22-04
Biologist from Norway!

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Ancestry records: http://search.ancestry.com/

ABC Sevilla/Cordoba (Spain): http://hemeroteca.abc.es/avanzada.stm

American newspapers: http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/

Associated Press: http://www.aparchive.com/

BrasilBase: http://www.brasilbase.pro.br/index....

Brasilian newspapers: http://memoria.bn.br/hdb/periodo.aspx

British newspapers: http://www.britishnewspaperarchive....

Brooklyn Daily Eagle: http://newsstand.bklynpubliclibrary...

Budapest (Hungary) 1889-1893: http://epa.oszk.hu/html/vgi/kardexl...

California 1846-1922: http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc

Chess Archaeology: http://www.chessarch.com/

Clarin (Argentina): http://najdorf-miguel.blogspot.no/

Dutch newspapers: http://kranten.delpher.nl/

El Informador (Mexico): http://hemeroteca.informador.com.mx/

El Siglo de Torreón (Mexico): http://h.elsiglodetorreon.com.mx/De...

El Mundo Deportivo (Spain): http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.co...

Fulton NY newspapers: http://www.fultonhistory.com/fulton...

Jaque 1971-2002: http://www.bartelski.pl/olimpbase/l...

La Stampa (Italy): http://www.archiviolastampa.it/

La Vanguardia (Spain): http://www.lavanguardia.com/hemerot...

L'Express/Impartial: http://www.lexpressarchives.ch/Defa...

Le Temps (Switzerland): http://www.letempsarchives.ch/Defau...

Skakbladet (Denmark): http://www.skak.dk/index.php?option...

The Times (UK): http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/archi...

Tidskrift för Schack (Sweden): http://www.schack.se/tfsarkiv/histo...

Tímarit (Iceland): http://timarit.is/search_init.jsp?l...

Utrechts Nieuwsblad (Holland): http://www.hetutrechtsarchief.nl/co...

Wiener Schachzeitung (Austria): http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/a...

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   Oct-22-14 Tabanus chessforum
 
Tabanus: <PMD> I need Stockfish as the glue, so probably not until next week, perhaps Monday or Tuesday. In the meantime (while waiting for you), I've been secretly working with Game Collection: Portisch - Spassky Candidates Quarterfinal 1980 .
 
   Oct-22-14 Biographer Bistro (replies)
 
Tabanus: <TheFocus> Correction slip! It was a candidates final, not quarterfinal. I don't know who wrote that the match "cleared a hurdle" and the other stuff.
 
   Oct-19-14 Spassky vs Keene, 1973
 
Tabanus: Picture from this game: http://binaryapi.ap.org/bfd0ab9d49f...
 
   Oct-18-14 J H Smythe Jr (replies)
 
Tabanus: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstra... If this is him, which I suspect (age and activity fit), he died Tuesday 14 Aug 1956.
 
   Oct-18-14 The World vs Naiditsch, 2014 (replies)
 
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   Oct-18-14 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
Tabanus: <CG> I think it's a great picture. Btw, the games from Mexico 1932 are not by him but by <Joaquin Medina Zavalía>, who is not in the database yet.
 
   Oct-17-14 Juan Brunner
 
Tabanus: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-272shJCnp... The picture text says Juan Brunner.
 
   Oct-15-14 Browne vs Polugaevsky, 1976 (replies)
 
Tabanus: Het Vrije Volk 24 June p. 9 also has this story (freely translated): Browne had 3 minutes left for 13 moves when the lights went off. After an emergency light was on, he refused to play. Camponanes urged him to continue but the American blamed the referee that he only made ...
 
   Oct-15-14 Uhlmann vs Hort, 1976
 
Tabanus: Pacific Stars and Stripes 4 July 1976 p. 7: <Both Hort and Uhlmann were suffering from bad stomach and played to a grandmasters' draw>
 
   Oct-14-14 Gheorghiu vs Mecking, 1976
 
Tabanus: This rd. 9 game, scheduled June 24, was postponed till June 29 because Mecking was sick. AP report in several newspapers incl. State Times Advocate 24 June p. 15: "A bad case of gastro enteritis suffered by Mecking".
 
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Oct-20-14
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<Tab> Hmmm that wasn't me.

Somebody went in after me and rewrote it.

Oct-20-14
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  Tabanus: <WCCEP> Please notify CG so that he/she can be fired as editor. There is no need for such things.
Oct-20-14
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  Paint My Dragon: <WCC> "Advices" sounds terrible to me - I was merely repeating what was written, but I admit my grasp on the correctness or otherwise of such archaic phraseology is flimsy. I will happily take advice(s) from the English teacher on these matters!

<All> Recalling <Tab>'s recent Manila Interzonal (1976) and the existence of Manila (1976), I wondered if the latter would benefit from a name change to Manila Quadrangular (1976), or similar. It struck me that a user could click on Manila (1976) and expect to get the Interzonal, whereas if all Quadrangulars were labelled so, there would be less ambiguity.

Of course in this specific instance, the 4-player tournament could also be renamed in other ways (e.g. it was actually held in Batangas and Manila). However, my wider point was that 'Quadrangular' might better suit a grand plan if it was rolled out consistently.

<Tabz> Still struggling to find time for Larsen-Uhlmann '71. Should happen quite soon though.

Oct-20-14
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<Tab> Well I did just send an email, thanks for the advices.

heh

<Paint it good!> No worries man, it will be easy to paraphrase around the "advices" issue.

Oct-20-14
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  Tabanus: Perhaps "our advices" refers to the Englishmen's advices from London (in 1922, when the rules were made)?

<Manila Quadrangular (1976)>, yes why not, for quadrangulars!

<PMD> Take your time, but I'm ready!

Oct-20-14
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<Tab> do you know how to use the "wayback machine"?

I'm trying to recover the text I wrote this evening on the <Fort Zanderneuf> bio.

Stupidly, I didn't archive it, as I archive all of my work, because I figured "hey, I'm tired now, I'll do it tomorrow".

I didn't suspect someone would rape my research and work right after I did it.

I did it around 2-3 hours ago.

I guess that's too recent for a "wayback" page isn't it.

Oct-20-14
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  Tabanus: Hmm do I don't know, except to click the Back arrow <-- sign in the browser, as long as it goes, and hope for the best. That should work if you did not close down the computer, the browser, or the tab you used.
Oct-20-14
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  Paint My Dragon: <Tabanus: Perhaps "our advices" refers to the Englishmen's advices from London (in 1922, when the rules were made)?>

Yes, that's why I didn't find it completely convincing - they may simply have been reminded of the London Rules and not of any actual transaction.

Oct-20-14
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  Tabanus: <PMD> That's how I understood it at first glance, with "According to" reading as "As in": <As in our recommendations, the stake is ...> But there is room for misinterpretations. What a "Jess mess" this is hehe.
Oct-20-14
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Oh oh

<Painted Into a Corner>

If you have time, might you be willing to type out the full article text, so that we can all better judge the context and meaning of that curiously worded passage?

We need to evaluate the real possibility that the German Wiki writer misconstrued that pregnant passage.

I can't be writing fiction in this WCC draft, and you- England- may represent our last and best hope of avoiding this terrible fate.

Please help us get this straight?

Oct-20-14
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  Paint My Dragon: <WCC> I would type it if it was helpful, but the sentence appears in isolation, preceded by a description of who was playing and followed by the other match conditions (number of games etc.) and the controversial events of game 1. The author then states that full details of the itinerary have not yet reached him.

I'll have a look through subsequent issues to see if more detail comes to light.

Ultimately, I wouldn't get too hung up on this. It's not a detail that the reader is going to regard as vital; particularly when the pre-match conditions already allude to a ball park figure that almost certainly Alekhine would have insisted on.

If you feel you must, you could safely use "sources indicate ...", which they do. I think Kasparov states 'same conditions as previous' in his Predecessors book if you want another corroborative, albeit not contemporary, citation.

Oct-20-14
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  Paint My Dragon: Another contemporary one: "The conditions are the same as in the previous match five years ago"

-The Times, April 2, 1934, p.8

Oct-21-14
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<Paint My Dragon>

Thanks for further information on that passage, and for all your previous help. I appreciate it, believe me.

But you see, the "previous conditions" of the 1929 match were that <Alekhine> received $6,000 win or lose, with any surplus going to <Boglojubov>.

I already have a multitude of sources saying the "conditions were the same" for the 1929 and 1934 match, but as you can tell, I began to suspect that they were the same *except* for the size of the purse.

I suspect the financial conditions in the 1934 match may have been different from those in 1929, that the German organizers may have met the London Rules suggested "full purse" of $10,000 US plus travel and living expenses for the contestants.

There is at least one cohort of readers who want to know, or should want to know, these financial details: those folks with strong feelings about laying blame with either <Alekhine> or <Capablanca> for preventing a rematch.

There are dozens and dozens of pages of arguing over that at our website.

That's why it may be more important than one might otherwise suppose to know the actual financial conditions for all of the WCC matches <Alekhine> played after he won the title.

You wrote that <the pre-match conditions already allude to a ball park figure that almost certainly Alekhine would have insisted on.>

Can you please give me the text of that source? What is the figure given by the text? Is it from the same article as the "advices" quotation?

I really need to see any and all sources I can get access to about the financial conditions for this match. I cannot write anything about what <Alekhine> or anyone else "would have done." That is the kind of writing that peppers, and ruins, Munninghoff's biography of Euwe, and so many other chatty chess history biographies.

I would like to find the actual facts, and if I can't find them that's all I can report- "we can't find the facts at present."

This is the historiographical standard we seek for the WCC intros.

If you can help me further, I would appreciate it very much.

I would even consider mailing you non-perishable food items. Dried squid is popular here, and it "mails well" too.

I believe <Tab> might be able to kick in with some jarred pickled herring. He told me that actual Norwegian name for this delicacy, but I've forgotten it now.

I believe it might be "Oomlaut."

Oct-21-14
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<Weapons of PMD>

Thank you kindly for this valuable additional contemporaneous documentation- I have just added it to the mirror draft- Game Collection: WCC: Alekhine-Bogoljubov 1934 ARCHIVE:

"The conditions are the same as in the previous match five years ago" -The Times, April 2, 1934, p.8

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Every scrap of information I can gather on this match is like a golden nugget to me.

Oct-21-14
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  Paint My Dragon: <Whitebait and Clam Chowder>

I fear you have been living in a bribery regulated environment for too long. We Englishmen are beyond such superficial rewards! What happened to the fake Rolex watches once so plentiful in the Far East? I guess that's the global financial downturn for you ... something that Capablanca would have been only too aware of.

Sadly, there is no further context regarding finances in the Chess Review article. I simply meant that $10k would be mentioned in your article and therefore the reader would know the approximate, likely extent of the purse. To my mind, this lessened the burden to come up with precise details, compared to a situation where no details are known at all. However, I can see that you are hell-bent on satisfying the cohorts of blame-seekers, and fair play to you. There appears to be lots of material telling of obstacles, dirty tricks, self-interest, playing the rules, call it what you will, but I worry that space may be your enemy.

While checking the rest of the 1934 Chess Review (no further talk of WC conditions btw) I passed a tournament won by Lilienthal and the heading was "An Orchid For Lilienthal". Never heard that expression before, but it struck me as a delightful, delicate sentiment ... and altogether more seemly than 'Dried Squid and Pickled Herring For Lilienthal'! Ha,ha.

Oct-21-14
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<Post Meridian Dinner>

No fear!

Bribery continues to be a most noble lifestyle here in ancient Korea. My co-teacher and I were in a mobile shop a few months ago, and he was fretting that they might not entrust a foreigner with a phone contract.

"No worries" I said to him, brandishing a few 50,000 Kwon notes (value = about thruppence).

"Maybe THIS will change his mind..."

Thanks for your patience, and for your further hard work and elaboration. Happily, <Karpova> has just dug up some extremely good information about the financial conditions of the 1934 match, which is now safely deposited in my forum. Her ability to read German texts has proven invaluable in this and many other cases.

We appear to be well-armed now. I am celebrating by watching a documentary on the "Welly"- not the gum boot, but rather the fabled Limey bomber that helped us vanquish the Hun.

An Orchid for Lilienthal. Flowers for Algernon? He lived to around 200 years old. What a mensch. I wish his autobiography was available in English translation. One of his greatest achievements was putting up with a cranky post-1972 Bobby Fischer in his house. He loved Bobby though. It's too bad John Philips Szuza Polgar has been driven from our website, or we might try to pump her for more Bobby Fischer stories.

I expect she might be tired of being asked about that by now, though.

Oct-21-14
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  Paint My Dragon: <Warplane Commentary Club>

I secretly preferred the Lancaster (Dambusters and all that) but my mum's next door neighbour was a Wellington pilot during the war. I had some fascinating long chats with him over the garden fence, but always found it strange that such a frail barrier could keep him out.

Good luck with sorting those financial loose ends!

Oct-21-14
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  Paint My Dragon: <Tabz>

All I could find on Larsen-Uhlmann '71, apart from some more detailed notes on individual games. As before, these are already paraphrased by me:

<Larsen had played no serious chess since Majorca the previous year. He felt he had needed a rest after playing over a hundred games in a short timespan, but was unsure of his form after such a lengthy break.>

<Larsen regarded Uhlmann as stubborn, in that he attached more importance to his own habits and preferences than to the psychology of his opponent, or the needs of the occasion. It was therefore possible to predict that the German would stick to his lifelong favourite French Defence and prepare accordingly.>

<He wondered if Uhlmann would even play the same line that he espoused when they last met at the Interzonal. He got his wish in game 3, when the 3 … c5 variation of the Tarrasch French arrived on the board. Clearly, Uhlmann was prepared to defend the isolated queen pawn, but Larsen liked such positions from the other side of the board.>

- Larsen in Chess Life & Review, Sept 1971, p.496

<Play took place at the Real Club Nautico, Las Palmas. May 13-31.>

<This was, in duration, the longest of the quarter-finals, but as with the others, it was the favourite who came out on top. Indeed, none of the victors conceded their opponent the lead at any stage. For Larsen, it was only his brave counterattack in game 4 that prevented such a setback and from then on, he appeared to be in control of his destiny. He was always steady with the White pieces and broke Uhlmann’s resistence in game 9 with some typical endgame mastery. Like Fischer, he had the ability to exchange down to endings that gained him a clear, enduring advantage and then play them out like a war of attrition.>

<It was nevertheless a close contest, and Uhlmann could take some comfort from his performance. It had been a major step forward for him to reach the Candidates matches and there were reasons for him to believe he may one day return.>

<Larsen showed a great fighting spirit; his confidence, courage and determination once more at the forefront. Since 1965, he had succeeded in five out of seven Candidates matches. Only a handful of Soviet stars could claim to have bettered this record.>

- PH Clarke in BCM, Aug 1971, pp. 269-274

Oct-21-14
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<Tabble Base>

Good news! Thanks for your alert correction on the stray mystery game in Mexico City (1932):

J Vazquez vs J Medina Zavalia, 1932

Oct-21-14
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<Pre Menstrual Dam buster>

Yes, the <Burt Lancaster> was a sturdy machine, to be sure.

Oct-21-14
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<Tab> Thanks also for all of the golden nuggets, or "Tabbangelt" which I am now systematically adding to this draft- Game Collection: WCC: Alekhine-Bogoljubov 1934 ARCHIVE.

You dug up much fascinating new material that will make this a better article.

Oct-22-14
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  Tabanus: <WCCEP> My pleasure. Now if only the full names of Rojo and Asiain would turn up.

<Pamper My Draft> Thanks! Now I have no escape, and will try glue it together with as few as possible sentences of my own.

Oct-22-14
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  Paint My Dragon: <Tabz> Go find that gluestick.

But first, rejoice in the beauty of your homeland ...

http://petapixel.com/2014/09/29/bre...

I was looking for your mountainside or seaside lodge, but didn't spot it. And where are the people?

Oct-22-14
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  Tabanus: <PMD> Very nice pictures, even for me!

He writes that "you can drive for hours without seeing any signs of civilization" - don't buy that one.

Oct-22-14
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  Tabanus: <PMD> I need Stockfish as the glue, so probably not until next week, perhaps Monday or Tuesday. In the meantime (while waiting for you), I've been secretly working with Game Collection: Portisch - Spassky Candidates Quarterfinal 1980.
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