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Shirov 
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Alexey Shirov
Number of games in database: 2,773
Years covered: 1983 to 2014
Last FIDE rating: 2683 (2652 rapid, 2614 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2755
Overall record: +826 -348 =961 (61.2%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      638 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (407) 
    B90 B33 B30 B42 B47
 Ruy Lopez (216) 
    C67 C84 C92 C80 C95
 Sicilian Najdorf (130) 
    B90 B96 B92 B97 B94
 French Defense (117) 
    C11 C02 C10 C18 C00
 Ruy Lopez, Closed (109) 
    C84 C92 C95 C89 C96
 Caro-Kann (86) 
    B12 B17 B19 B18 B10
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (300) 
    B33 B90 B30 B62 B22
 Ruy Lopez (156) 
    C78 C88 C69 C77 C99
 Slav (149) 
    D15 D12 D11 D10 D13
 Semi-Slav (145) 
    D45 D47 D44 D43 D48
 King's Indian (125) 
    E97 E63 E92 E81 E60
 Grunfeld (58) 
    D85 D86 D87 D97 D80
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Shirov vs J Lapinski, 1990 1-0
   Topalov vs Shirov, 1998 0-1
   Kramnik vs Shirov, 1994 0-1
   Gelfand vs Shirov, 2007 0-1
   Shirov vs A Hauchard, 1990 1-0
   Yusupov vs Shirov, 2012 0-1
   Shirov vs Radjabov, 2004 1-0
   Kramnik vs Shirov, 1998 0-1
   Ivanchuk vs Shirov, 2009 0-1
   Kamsky vs Shirov, 1993 0-1

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2000)
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2001)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Madrid (1997)
   Russia - The Rest of the World (2002)
   XXXIV Bosnia (2004)
   Canadian Open (2005)
   Linares (1998)
   Linares (1994)
   Spanish Championships (2002)
   Corus (2010)
   World Chess Cup (2007)
   Sarajevo (2000)
   Superstars Hotel Bali (2002)
   World Cup (2009)
   Olympiad (2008)
   Bundesliga 2009/10 (2009)
   Chess Olympiad (2014)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Match Shirov! by amadeus
   Fire on the Board by Alexey Shirov by suenteus po 147
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 1990-1999 (Part 3) by Anatoly21
   Shirov miniatures by morphynoman2
   Fire on Board, part II. by 810609
   Exchange sacs - 3 by obrit
   Shirov Crushing Kramnik by Conde de Montecristo

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ALEXEY SHIROV
(born Jul-04-1972, 42 years old) Latvia

[what is this?]
IM (1989); GM (1990).

Alexey Dmitrievich Shirov (Russian: Алексей Дмитриевич Широв, Latvian: Aleksejs Širovs) was born in Riga in what was then Soviet Latvia. He has a distinctive aggressive and imaginative style that has won him many admirers throughout his career. He has ranked among the world's top players since 1990. He frequently worked his way deep into the World Championship cycles, coming as close to the pinnacle of chess as winning the right to challenge Garry Kasparov for the Classical World Championship, meeting Viswanathan Anand in the final of the 2000 Knockout Tournament and playing in the final match of the World Chess Cup (2007) and playing in the 2007 Candidates. He has been officially ranked as high as number 2 in the world.

Championships

<Age> Shirov became the U16 World Champion in 1988 and was runner-up in 1990 in the World Junior Championship behind Ilya M Gurevich.

<National> He won the Spanish championship in 2002 with 8.5/9.

<World> Shirov’s initial entry to the World Championship cycle was in February 1990 at the age of 17, when he shared =1st at the Zonal Tournament held in Lvov, (1) thereby qualifying for the Manila Interzonal held in June and July of that year. There he scored 7.5/13, half a point outside of the qualifying group to the Candidates. (2) He qualified for the 1993 Interzonal in Biel, this time finishing with 8/13, but again missed the qualifying group for the Candidates, this time on tiebreak as Anand, who qualified, also scored 8/13. (3). In 1997, Shirov was seeded directly into the 2nd round of the FIDE Knockout Tournament in Groningen that was to produce a challenger for FIDE world championship title occupied by Anatoly Karpov. He defeated Julio Ernesto Granda Zuniga, Gilberto Milos, Vladimir Akopian in the early rounds before losing to the eventual winner, Anand, in the quarter finals. (4)

In 1998 Shirov was invited by the World Chess Council (a Kasparov creation) to play a ten-game match against Vladimir Kramnik to select a challenger for Kasparov. Shirov won the Shirov - Kramnik WCC Candidates Match (1998) with two wins, no losses and seven draws. However the plans for the Kasparov-Shirov match fell through when financial backing that had been verbally promised by the Andalusian regional government in Spain failed due to a change in government in that province, and no other sponsors could be found and the momentum for organizing the match was eventually lost. (5) Shirov then went on to play in the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (1999) where he was again seeded directly into the 2nd round, and defeated Ivan Sokolov, Milos and Nigel Short in the early rounds before losing to Liviu Dieter Nisipeanu, again in the quarter finals.

In 2000, Shirov reached the final of the FIDE World Chess Championship, losing 3½–½ to Viswanathan Anand after beating Alexander Onischuk, Mikhail Gurevich, Boris Gelfand, Evgeny Bareev, and Alexander Grischuk in the earlier rounds. The following year, he played in the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2001) and beat Aimen Rizouk, Zoltan Gyimesi, Alexander Motylev and Veselin Topalov in the early rounds before again losing to Anand, yet again in the quarter finals.

In the parallel championship cycle being run to produce a challenger for the new Classical World Champion, Vladimir Kramnik, the 2002 Dortmund tournament doubled as the Candidates event to produce the challenger. In this event, Shirov defeated Topalov in a playoff to determine the winner of Group 1 (of 2). He then played and lost by 2.5-0.5 (+2 =1) to eventual winner and new challenger for the Classical title Peter Leko in one of the preliminary Candidates matches.

Shirov then qualified via his rating to play in the FIDE World Cup (2005) but lost to Mikhail Gurevich in the third round after beating Kirill Kuderinov and Vasilios Kotronias in the first two rounds. He then qualified by rating to participate in the 2007 Candidates Matches to determine four of the participants to the FIDE World Championship Tournament (2007). He won his first round Candidates Match: Shirov - Adams (2007) (+1 −1 =4, won in rapid playoff), but was eliminated in the 2nd and qualifying round when he lost the Candidates Match: Aronian - Shirov (2007) (+0 −1 =5). In November–December 2007 Shirov played in the World Cup 2007, defeating Robert Gwaze, Yury Shulman, Alexander Onischuk, Akopian, Dmitry Jakovenko, and Sergey Karjakin to make it to the final match, which he lost by 2½–1½ to Gata Kamsky. Qualifying for the World Cup (2011) because of his high rating, Shirov defeated Manuel Leon Hoyos in the first round, but unexpectedly lost to Vladimir Potkin in the second round. Shirov qualified for the World Cup (2013) as a ratings reserve, and defeated former Women's World Champion and Chinese GM Yifan Hou in the first round tiebreaker, progressing to the second round where he was eliminated from the Cup when he lost by 0.5-1.5 to the world's youngest GM, 14 year-old Wei Yi.

Classical Tournaments

Shirov has placed first or equal first in numerous international tournaments:

• Biel 1991

Madrid (1997) (sharing first with Topalov)

• Ter Apel 1997

• Monte Carlo 1998

Merida (2000) (quadrangular double round robin)

• the Hrokurinn (2003) round robin tournament in Reykjavik

• the Bosnian International in Sarajevo in 2004 a point and a half clear of the field with 7.5/9

• =1st (alongside Peter Heine Nielsen) at the Smartfish Masters in Norway in 2005

• two-time winner of the Paul Keres Memorial Tournament in Tallinn in 2004 and 2005

• the Canadian Open (2005)

• =1st at the Gibraltar Masters (2005) alongside Aronian, Kiril D Georgiev, Emil Sutovsky and Zahar Efimenko

• the 7th Poikovsky Tournament (2006), a point clear of Vadim Zvjaginsev, Ruslan Ponomariov, Alexey Dreev and Bareev

• placing 1st in the Category 21 M-Tel Masters (2009) a double round tournament held in Sofia, Bulgaria with a performance rating of 2864; he was undefeated in his score of 6½/10

• =1st with Georgiev at CIS - Serie Master 2010

• In September 2010, Shirov won the Shanghai Masters (2010) preliminary tournament in Shanghai to qualify, along with Kramnik, for the Bilbao Masters (2010) to meet Carlsen and Anand. There he scored -2 =4, placing 4th.

• 1st at the 3rd International GM round-robin tournament in Lublin, Poland, the III Lublin Union Memorial 2011 with a score of 5/7

• won the category 13 round robin Buenos Aires Masters (2012) by a clear point ahead of outright second place-getter Ruben Felgaer.

Another outstanding result was =2nd at Corus (2010) with Kramnik, half a point behind Magnus Carlsen. He was 3rd with 5/9 at the category 19 15th Poikovsky Karpov Tournament (2014), a point behind the winner Alexander Morozevich.

Match Play

A full list of all the matches played by Shirov are listed at <User: amadeus >’s excellent page: Game Collection: Match Shirov!. The most significant exhibition matches played outside of the context of tournament tiebreakers, World Championship, World Cup and other tournament knockout contests, and Candidates matches were against Simen Agdestein in 1992 (won +3 -1); 1995 against Jeroen Piket (won +3 =5 -0), in 1998 vs Zbynek Hracek (won +5 -1 =0); in 1999 vs Judit Polgar (won +5 -0 =1); in 2004 against David Navara (won +1 -0 =1); and in 2012 against Viktor Laznicka (won +2 =4). In December 2013 in Moscow, he played a best-of-six match, the Battle of the Generations (2013), against Russian wunderkind GM Daniil Dubov and won 5-1 (+4 =2). 10 months later in October 2014, he played a 6 game match against Dutch wunderkind Anish Giri at the Unive matches played during the annual event at Hoogoven in the Netherlands, losing 1.5-4.5 (-3 =3).

Rapid/blitz

Shirov won the 2011 and 2012 Paul Keres memorial Tournaments in Tallinn. In February 2012, he won the Aivars Gipslis Memorial in Riga with 9/9. In September 2012, he won the Sigulda Open Rapid Chess Championship 2012 in Latvia. In December 2012, he came =1st in the European Rapid Championship and in April 2013, he won the 2nd Casino Royal championship, also in Latvia. In May 2013, he won the Incukalns District Open in Latvia. In August 2014, he was =4th with 8/11 at the 7th Stage of the Russian Rapid Grand-Prix 2014.

Team play

<Olympiad> Shirov played top board for Latvia at the Olympiads of 1992, 1994, 2012 and 2014, and for Spain at the Olympiads of 1996, 1998, 2000, 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2010. He did not participate in the 2002 Olympiad.

<World Team Championship> Shirov played on board 1 for Latvia at the 1993 World Team Championship, winning individual silver and helping his team to 6th place.

<European Team Championship> Shirov represented Spain in 1999, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2009 and 2011, playing top board on all occasions except in 2011 when he played board 2. He won individual gold in 1999.

<European Club Cup> Shirov played in the ECC in the years 1993, 1995,1996, 1998, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014. Most recently he has played for the Yugra team (2012) and Malachite (2013 & 2014). During this time he has won individual gold and silver, 2 team golds, 4 team silvers, and 3 team bronzes. (6)

<National Leagues> Shirov played board 2 for the Ural Sverdlovsk team in the Russian Premier League from 2006 until 2009 inclusive, winning 2 team golds, 1 team silver, 1 team bronze, and 2 individual golds, and two individual silvers during this period. He absented himself from the competition for two years before rejoining it in 2012 when he played board 2 for Yugra, and in 2013 and 2014, when he played for Malakhit Ekaterinburg, winning team and individual silver (on board 4) in 2013 and team gold and individual silver (also on board 4) in 2014.

Other national leagues in which Shirov has participated include:

• The Bundesliga 2000 (and probably before), 2001, 2002; 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013;

• Spanish Team Championship 2001, 2006 and the CECLUB leagues of 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 - in 2011 he helped his team Gros Xake Taldea to victory the CECLUB

• French team Championships in 2001-2 and the Top 16 French League 2004 and 2005;

• Iceland Team Championships in 2002;

• Bosnia and Herzegovina Team Championships of 2003 and 2004;

• 4NCL in 2004-5, 2005-6 and 2012-13;

• Hungarian Team Championships of 2008 and 2011;

• Latvian Team Championships of 2011 and 2013;

• Czech Extraliga in 2012-13 and 2013-14 and the

• Finnish League of 2013-14.

<Rest of the World> In 2002, he helped the Rest of the World team win the Russia - The Rest of the World (2002), scoring 7/10 for a TPR of 2866.

Author

Shirov is an author who wrote Fire on Board: Shirov's Best Games (1995) and Fire on Board, Part 2: 1997–2004 (2005). He has also produced numerous ChessBase Fritztrainer DVDs, which deal mainly with the openings and which are listed at his Wikipedia article (linked below).

Personal

In 1994, Alexey married an Argentine, Verónica Alvarez. He then moved to Tarragona and became a citizen of Spain. He subsequently divorced Alvarez and was married to Lithuanian GM Victoria Cmilyte from 2001-2007 before divorcing again and marrying Russian WIM Olga Dolgova in 2010. He is again playing for Latvia, where he is that country's top player.

Rating and ranking

Shirov has been amongst the world's top 100 players since July 1990 and has remained in that group since. He was in the world's top 10 from January 1992 until April 2001, throughout 2003, for most of 2008 and in May and July 2010.

The highest rating achieved by Shirov was 2755 was in January 2008 when he was ranked #4 in the world. His highest FIDE world ranking was #2 behind Karpov (Kasparov had been suspended from the FIDE ratings tables) throughout 1994 when his rating was 2715 in January before rising to 2740 in July. Including Kasparov, his highest ranking was #3 after Kasparov and Karpov.

As of 1 November 2014, Shirov’s ratings are as follows:

<Standard> 2683, Latvian #1; World #55;

<Rapid> 2652 (world #96); and

<Blitz> 2614.

Sources and references

(1) [rusbase-1]; (2) http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/919...; (3) http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/949...; (4) http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/979...; (5) http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/989...; (6) http://www.olimpbase.org/playersc/f....

Live rating: http://www.2700chess.com/; Wikipedia article: Alexei Shirov; Mark Weeks’ comprehensive records of the World Championships and their qualifying events: http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/wcc...; OlimpBase - the encyclopedia of team chess: http://www.olimpbase.org/

Last update 7 Nov 2014


 page 1 of 111; games 1-25 of 2,773  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Shirov vs V Zhuravliov 1-025 1983 RigaC10 French
2. Shirov vs S Petrenko 1-034 1984 USSRB78 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack, 10.castle long
3. Shirov vs J Petkevich  0-122 1985 Riga (Latvia)C03 French, Tarrasch
4. Shirov vs M Golubev  ½-½38 1985 URSB76 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack
5. Shirov vs Ozolinsh 0-132 1985 Riga (Latvia)C29 Vienna Gambit
6. I Jakobson vs Shirov  0-132 1985 Riga (Latvia)B90 Sicilian, Najdorf
7. Shirov vs E Vitolinsh 0-138 1985 Riga (Latvia)B99 Sicilian, Najdorf, 7...Be7 Main line
8. J Saksis vs Shirov 0-137 1985 Riga (Latvia)B99 Sicilian, Najdorf, 7...Be7 Main line
9. Shirov vs M Golubev  ½-½38 1985 YurmalaB76 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack
10. Shirov vs V Zhuravliov 1-032 1986 Riga (Latvia)A80 Dutch
11. Shirov vs D Burmenko  0-139 1986 Sochi (Russia)C15 French, Winawer
12. I Rausis vs Shirov 0-125 1986 Ch LatviaB02 Alekhine's Defense
13. Shirov vs Kamsky 1-039 1986 Sochi (Russia)C69 Ruy Lopez, Exchange, Gligoric Variation, 6.d4
14. Shirov vs Shabalov  ½-½26 1986 ?B03 Alekhine's Defense
15. Shirov vs J Klovans 0-125 1986 Ch LatviaC55 Two Knights Defense
16. Kasparov vs Shirov ½-½44 1986 URSA34 English, Symmetrical
17. Lutsko vs Shirov  0-130 1986 Riga (Latvia)A15 English
18. Ulibin vs Shirov  ½-½42 1986 Kapsukas jrC78 Ruy Lopez
19. Shirov vs Akopian  ½-½28 1986 Sochi (Russia)A45 Queen's Pawn Game
20. Shirov vs A Vitolinsh 0-155 1986 Riga (Latvia)A45 Queen's Pawn Game
21. Shirov vs Sakaev 1-035 1986 Sochi (Russia)D00 Queen's Pawn Game
22. Shirov vs Shabalov 0-133 1987 RigaD18 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav, Dutch
23. Shirov vs Smirin 1-072 1987 Riga (Latvia)A56 Benoni Defense
24. J Klovans vs Shirov  ½-½41 1987 RigaC78 Ruy Lopez
25. A Vitolinsh vs Shirov 0-124 1987 RigaC78 Ruy Lopez
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Kibitzer's Corner
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May-23-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  visayanbraindoctor: I never expected GM Shirov to win MTEL. As with many fans, I am hoping he will get into the Candidates (maybe through high ratings?) and perhaps get the Title shot that was denied to him a decade ago. Since the December 2008 Olympiad Shirov has been on the roll:

Olympiad (2008)/Alexey Shirov

2008-2009 Bundesliga/Alexey Shirov

(Note that in the 2009 Bundesliga games, he scored 3 victories and 1 draw)

Russian Team Championship (2009)/Alexey Shirov

M-Tel Masters (2009)/Alexey Shirov

May-24-09  timhortons: I didnt expect GM Shirov is this strong.I bet on topa to win mtel and my next choice then is Magnus.

http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/s...

May-24-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: <outplayer: Congratulations to Shirov. His victory over Wang Hao defies fritz analysis. I enjoy Shirov' style too much.>

That is an *awesome* game.

Shirov vs Wang Hao, 2009

May-24-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: <outplayer: Congratulations to Shirov. <<<His victory over Wang Hao defies fritz analysis.>>> I enjoy Shirov' style too much.>

Shirov vs Wang Hao, 2009

23 Rd6xPh6!! 1-0


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May-25-09  pulsar: Congratulations GM Alexie Shirov for winning M-Tel '09! I hope this signals his comeback to the top.
May-25-09  Albertan: Please drop by my blog at http://albertan1956.blogspot.com/

and play through the analysis I have done of the key game (round 10) from the 2009 MTel Masters Chess Tournament between Shirov and Carlsen.Thanks

May-25-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: So what is Shirov's next tournament?

It sure is fun to watch him when he is in such great form.

Shirov vs Wang Hao, 2009

May-26-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  talisman: <Albertan> thanks for that.
May-26-09  Albertan: How nice that GM Shirov seems to be at the top of his game, seeing as he will be here in my home town at the 2009 Canadian Open Chess Tournament starting on July 11 and ending on July 19th! I can't wait for the tournament to start!
May-29-09  pinoymaster77: Congratulations Super GM Alexei Shirov!!
May-29-09  cliffordgoodman: Albertan: also stoked for the Canadian Open, see you there!
Jun-02-09  Albertan: You bet Cliffordgoodman, I can't wait for the Canadian Open to begin :)
Jun-03-09  dumbgai: <I think everybody still regrets the fact, and not the least you yourself, that you never got a shot for a match for the world title, so we’re very interested of course if you still have this drive to actually go for the highest prize there is in chess.>

Well, first of all I strongly believe that there shouldn’t be a match for world title. World title should be played in a tournament, of eight players, because when it’s played between two players you almost always see that something is wrong.

For example when Kramnik played Topalov, Anand was not there. This was wrong. When Kramnik played Anand, Topalov was not there. This was also wrong. Of course, when you have let’s say eight players, there’s always ninth player, but at least if you compare who is ninth at that moment with who is number one at that moment, you can see OK, if you are nine, try to become eight next time. This at least can be said. At the same time, when you want to have the contest between two players, and these are not two of the best players, when Kramnik and Anand were clearly not two best players of the world, when Topalov was clearly better than both of them at that moment, then it’s just totally ridiculous to decide the World Championship in a match. So in my opinion it has to be in tournament of eight players, like it was in Argentina and in Mexico.

http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/a...

Man, I can't believe Shirov said that. Maybe it's because he doesn't think he can become number 1 or 2 in the world again but does think he can become number 8.

Jun-03-09  ksr: <For example when Kramnik played Topalov, Anand was not there. This was wrong. When Kramnik played Anand, Topalov was not there. >

Such profound conclusions !! Is he crazy?

Jun-03-09  dumbgai: Yeah, when Capablanca played Alekhine, Nimzowitsch/Reti/Rubinstein weren't there. It's not a great argument. Shirov's examples of San Luis 2005 and Mexico 2007 aren't great either: Topalov didn't play in Mexico and Kramnik didn't play in San Luis.
Jun-05-09  returnoftheking: I think he has a point.
Objectively a tournament would be just as reasonable. But by tradition and because of popular interest a match is more interesting.

Botvinnik became wch in a tournament right?

Another quote from the interview:
<But if we take into account that besides winning three games I also missed very good winning chances against Dominguez in the first circle and also a practically clear win against Carlsen in the first circle then we can say that maybe in a certain way my result is deserved because I even missed some chances myself, but OK. It was definitely my tournament>

Shirov seems to agree with me and slomarko who was quick to point out the win during the game on the Carlsen page. Note however that Shirov makes no reference <what so ever> to his losing chances (;o) in the last game. Probably because there were none.

Jun-05-09  Petrosianic: <Botvinnik became wch in a tournament right?>

Yes, though in that case, there was no defending champion to play a match with.

Why the absence of Nimzovich would cast any doubt on the Capablanca-Alekhine match, I can't imagine. What did Nimzo ever do to establish himself as "the man to beat"?

Shirov did win the tournament, and deservedly so, but nothing he did at that tournament gave me the slightest reason to reconsider my belief that Topalov is better than Shirov. If Shirov beat Topalov one-on-one in 10 games, then I would reconsider.

Jun-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  amadeus: <Shirov did win the tournament, and deservedly so, but nothing he did at that tournament gave me the slightest reason to reconsider my belief that Topalov is better than Shirov. If Shirov beat Topalov one-on-one in 10 games, then I would reconsider.>

Shirov has a nice record against Topalov in classical games: +11 -6 =18 (CG data; last 10 decisive games: Shirov 7-3). But I don't think anyone would argue that he is playing better chess than Topalov right now.

Jun-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Appaz: Ouch! Third loss in a row for Shirov and according to chessvibes he is performing sub-2000. A couple of more rounds now, and I may finally be ready to challenge my chess-idol!

http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/p...

Jun-05-09  ksr: I would also extend Shirov's reasoning and propose that every two years the highest rated player in the January rating list should be declared world champion. Will Shirov agree with it? Why do you need to even have a tournament?
Jun-05-09  ksr: ksr: <dumbgai: Yeah, when Capablanca played Alekhine, Nimzowitsch/Reti/Rubinstein weren't there. It's not a great argument. Shirov's examples of San Luis 2005 and Mexico 2007 aren't great either: Topalov didn't play in Mexico and Kramnik didn't play in San Luis.> Shirov also forgets that when Kramnik beat Topalov in the match , he (Kramnik) was rated 60 points below Topalov. Having a higher rating does not automatically gurantee better performance in a match or even in a tournament.(Mtel Masters 09 is an example which was won by Shirov ahead of Topalov).

It seems Shirov thinks that if he somehow gets into a world championship tournament where the top 8 rated players are selected to play, he might have a very good run like in Mtel and have a chance to win!. However he should wait for one official rating list to confirm his ranking within top 8 - with his level of play in Poikovsky he is already down to 11th in the live rating.

Jun-05-09  Petrosianic: <Shirov also forgets that when Kramnik beat Topalov in the match , he (Kramnik) was rated 60 points below Topalov. Having a higher rating does not automatically gurantee better performance in a match or even in a tournament.>

He also forgets that 60 is the same rating deficit that he himself had when he beat Kramnik. (Imagine him, of all people, forgetting about that match.)

Jun-05-09  returnoftheking: His -3 streak is a bit ironic considering his recent remarks about more stability. Still, I find <ksr> a bit cynical when he explains Shirov's thoughts on the WCH with the motive of personal gain. More likely it is just Shirov's honest opinion, and it has nothing to do with his own chances to become wch..
Jun-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <return> Throwing away a game, as Shirov did vs Inarkiev in the first round at Poikovsky, can have disastrous effects on even a top-class player; they're only human beings as the rest of us are, not machines.
Jun-06-09  returnoftheking: I don't see it as a big problem either but isn't there a chance he could qualify for the WCH by rating? In that case it's another matter to lose rating points like this. Hopefully he will gain some points back in the coming days.
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