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|Sep-19-08|| ||ray keene: eley may no longer be in holland-thailand was one rumour i heard. i certainly did not mean that dutch authorities shd give him up-if he is still in holland-i meant that some misguided friends may know where he is and were sheltering him thru misdirected loyalty-however this is of course all speculation-he may no longer be there at all! no-one who wins the british championship is going to be a weak player-i have faced many of them and none were pushovers. eley won it fair and square with opposition including penrose, hartston , stean, mestel, myself---i have two wins against him, no losses and a couple of draws, but then again i have much better scores against penrose and nunn and comparable scores against several others such as speelman and botterill.|
|Sep-22-08|| ||mack: <We people are not black or white>|
Yes, dear. Which is why it's not particularly helpful speaking of 'evil' people, eh.
|Oct-29-08|| ||jkinlay: I seconded Eley in 1972, the year he won the BCC. I recall researching through the night for his final round game in the tournament against Andrew Whiteley, to find an antidote to his opponent's feared Alekhine defense. I came up with an unusual line that probably allows Black to equalize, but which was better suited to Eley’s tactical ability than Whiteley’s more strategic style. Eley won the game and secured the Championship. Ray is right when he says that Eley won it fair and square, but it was not a popular outcome. Eley’s reputation was already tarnished by that time, and for good reason: I personally witnessed some pretty abusive behavior on his part towards his acolytes. As a consequence, I no longer worked with Eley after 1972. Despite that, I am sorry to learn that Eley’s ability and achievements appear to have been occluded by his alleged personal shortcomings.|
|Feb-03-09|| ||Domdaniel: <Yes, dear. Which is why it's not particularly helpful speaking of 'evil' people, eh.>|
Quite. <mack>, you're wicked.
|Jul-25-09|| ||offramp: <jkinlay: I seconded Eley in 1972, the year he won the BCC. I recall researching through the night for his final round game in the tournament against Andrew Whiteley, to find an antidote to his opponent's feared Alekhine defense.> |
I believe the opponent was A. Howard Williams.
|Jul-25-09|| ||ray keene: oddly there are no eley games at all here from his british championship win in 1972!!|
|Mar-07-10|| ||pedev: Eley played a simul against all 18 participants of the 1973 championship
of The Netherlands for players under 20yo. This tournament was held in Rotterdam. I remember the result was not very good for Eley. My game against him ended in a draw.
I also remember Eley was very kind towards his opponents. In 1995 I heard rumours about Eley being arrested in Amsterdam. He was accused of sexual abuse of many young boys. He taught them to play chess. Apparently he also taught them something else.....
I do not have more information about Eley.
I hope you appreciate my comment on this subject.
By the way: I won the brilliancy prize of this tournament (Peter Erik de Visser - Peter Scheeren).
|Mar-07-10|| ||tpstar: <pedev> Welcome to the site. =)|
This may or may not be your game F Vlugt vs de Visser, 1983 but there are no other de Visser games matching you yet. If you contact the Administrators, they will create a player page for you here, and you may upload any or all of your games into this database. Then you could provide comments or even annotations for future reference. Best wishes. =)
|Apr-24-10|| ||pedev: That is very kind of you.
I will contact the Administrators.
|Nov-29-10|| ||Peter Erik de Visser: Today is November 30 2010 and that is the day that Magnus Carlsen becomes 20yo.|
Please take a look here, Mr. Carlsen:
With kind regards from the City of ZWOLLE in The Netherlands,
Peter Erik de Visser
|Feb-26-11|| ||Lennonfan: I see most of these posts are old...i once played eley as a 10/11 yr old child,in a simul and i beat him! That was 86/87...i see <jkinlay>seconded for him in 72 and said his reputation was already tarnished,if so do you mean tarnished as in the accusations of which he's now"on the lam"for?if so im suprised he was even allowed near boys of my age at that time!
And as far as i know he's still at large.
I think if the british police and interpol want him that bad,and knowing he's a chess fan,player,addict,why they dont just ask someone like his old second for info,look at his games,work out from there his chess signature(favoured openings,chess style,his rating and skill level,estimated whereabouts etc.etc..and track him from there??possibly over the internet?Then lure him like he ALLEGEDLY lured his victims...surely someone in the chess community knows his current whereabouts,someone with a rating of 2300 wont be playing patzers!he'l be playing someone of equal ability so he cant be that hard to find?
|Mar-25-11|| ||davidhchess: I am very late to this thread - apologies. I was 15 or so when I played some off hand games with Eley at a Whitby chess congress in the 1960s. He seemed to me to be a very unpleasant person indeed - looking to to play young and, of course weaker players, to feed his own ego.|
|Jun-21-11|| ||deputy1: I shared a room at Spalding with Eley playing in the Spalding open, in 1972 and I wa atounded to hear that he wa sexualy abusing young boys.
I only found out yesterday that he was wanted by the British police.|
|Mar-16-12|| ||deputy1: Any News of Eley anywhere ?|
|Jul-03-12|| ||GrahamClayton: The Lord Lucan of English chess?|
|Jul-03-12|| ||Nosnibor: Jusr after Eley had won the British Championship in 1972 I played him in the last round of the inaugural Atkins Memorial tournament and drew with him as black where we both finished in the prize list.The strange thing was that in the first round I beat Jonathan Kinlay whom I have just discovered was Eley`s second in the British Championship!|
|Jun-15-13|| ||Everett: , it seems to me, If anyone "deserves" a picture on his page, it is he.|
|Jun-20-13|| ||perfidious: <Everett>: Sounds good to me-he can join this slimepot (Robert Snyder) in the rogues' gallery.|
|Jun-21-13|| ||kingfu: How about total erasure of their pages from CG?
And renaming the B20 Sicilian after Moshe Czerniak and Tamaz Gelashvili? Gelahvili is +51 with the B20!
|Jan-23-14|| ||MarkFinan: <GrahamClayton: The Lord Lucan of English chess?>|
He certainly is! He could be dead and I'm guessing that wouldn't bother many people if he were. I couldn't believe it when I saw him on crimewatch because I played him too. Not that he's the first person I know who's made crimewatch!?! Very strange and weirdly eccentric with a Bobby Charlton comb over if I'm remembering rightly. I can't believe that people knew what he was up to and he was still allowed around boys my age, because I must have been 11 when I played him.
|Jan-23-14|| ||FSR: <kingfu> As to the so-called "Snyder Sicilian," I agree with you. People played 2.b3 before, after, and with greater virtuosity than Snyder ever did. Naming it for him is ridiculous.|
I totally disagree with your suggestion that Snyder and Eley's pages should be deleted. The purpose of this site is to record significant chess games, not to assess players' morality or lack thereof. Efim Bogoljubov and Emil Joseph Diemer were Nazis. Klaus Junge was killed while fighting in Hitler's army. Alexander Alekhine wrote anti-Semitic propaganda for the Nazis. Robert James Fischer was an anti-Semitic loon, applauded the September 11 attacks, and later became a fugitive from the United States government. George Hatfeild Gossip wrote a virulently anti-Semitic book. Norman Tweed Whitaker was a swindler. Vladimir Antoshin worked for the KGB. Should their pages be deleted as well?
|Jan-23-14|| ||perfidious: Eley and Snyder are depraved scumbags of the first water and deserve lifelong incarceration at the very least. Doesn't mean their games should be deleted from existence, though.|
|Jan-23-14|| ||FSR: Yes, Gelashvili is a holy terror with 2.b3. If everyone were so successful with it, no one would ever play the Sicilian.|
|Jan-23-14|| ||FSR: Yes, Gelashvili is a holy terror with 2.b3. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... If everyone were so successful with it, no one would ever play the Sicilian.|
|Feb-26-14|| ||kingfu: Thanks, FSR
I over reacted. I just wish I could play the B20 as well as Gelashvili!
We need pages for all chess players, so we may discuss all issues for these so-called sapiens. How am I and Adolf part of the same species? Did Adolf play chess?
How does one make the "transition" from teaching a young person the beauty of chess to being the most monstrous of us all?
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