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| Feb-25-09 |
| YoungEd: Thanks, <The beginner>. That's helpful. I agree with you that the database and analysis tools in CM are of limited value. But as you say, I enjoy the different tutorials and the different levels of play that the personalities offer. Maybe you're right--I should think about getting CM for fun and Fritz for study. Thanks again. |
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Feb-25-09
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| timhortons: I thing about the cm is that you could buy it even in futureshop(geekstore in canada) while the rest of the chess software you buy it online or in a special chess store. I had cm 10, and i had rybka 3 for analysis of games. |
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| Mar-04-09 |
| James Demery: When playing against Chessmaster would one have a better chance of winning a 20 minute game or a 120 minute game? A person would have less time to think per move , but so would the computer , but of course the computer can see moves so quickly. |
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| Mar-04-09 |
| chessman95: <James Demery> That's a good question. I'm not sure if the time limit would benefit the computer or the human more. For the human, the time limit doesn't matter very much because we weed out most moves to evaluate anyway, but the weakness would be playing a bad move under time pressure. A computer on the other hand would not make any mistakes from the time limit, but instead would play at a "level" lower than it would if it had more time. For me, I usually lose to computers because of stupid mistakes that they always exploit, but if the human player was a strong GM who didn't make many mistakes I think the time limit would affect the computer more than the human. |
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| Mar-05-09 |
| James Demery: I keep going back and forth on this chessman. A longer game would reduce the chances of a time trouble blunder as you say, but it also gives the computer time to evaluate more lines. |
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| nimh: For humans more time means relatively more gain in strength than for comps.
It's been estimated that each additional ply adds roughly 50 elo points. So 1 s per move instead of 15 minutes would result in only less than 500 elo weaker performance.
What do you think, would Topalov be able to play 2300 chess if he had only 12 seconds per 40 moves? |
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Mar-05-09
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| timhortons: rybka2 under the time control of 3 minute was mated by nakamura with 8 knights and 6 bishop,I doubt if somebody could do these to rybka 2 in a time control of 45 minutes.. He discovered how rybka work in certain position and take advantage of it.These prompted rybka team to improve there chess software . Nakamura for the record never beat rybka 3, hemanage to draw it once using his old method against rybka 2. |
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| Mar-05-09 |
| chessman95: Another weakness of computers under time control is falling into traps. Sometimes they won't see a trap that is several moves ahead. I once got a computer under time control to fall into the Noah's Ark Trap in the Ruy. |
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Mar-09-09
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| nimh: We know that humans never fall into traps. |
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| Mar-28-09 |
| akapovsky: I find chessmaster 8000 to be really weak I,ve even managed to beat capablanca mode and kasparov and several draws with steinitz and chessmaster modes.It is extremely over rated. |
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| Mar-28-09 |
| James Demery: What time control were you playing at? Larry Christiansen lost 3 out of 4 games to CM at 120 minutes per game. I think he was playing CM 9000. I`m not sure if it would make that much of a difference between CM 8000 and CM 9000. |
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| Mar-28-09 |
| James Demery: I was mistaken in my earlier post. Larry C had 1 win 2 losses and 1 draw. |
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| Mar-28-09 |
| James Demery: By the way I was shocked when I got CM 10000 and discovered it had many great GM`s from the past , but it no longer had Kasparov. I like to match up the personalities against each other to see the contrasting styles against each other. I tried to match up Fischer against Kasparov and discovered there was no Kasparov. Kashdan , but no Kasparov. Incredible not to include arguably the greatest player of all time. Why not drop Kashdan and include Kasparov? |
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| Mar-28-09 |
| akapovsky: I was playing 67 minutes each side fischer style.I totally agree on the whole Kasparov issue. |
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| Mar-29-09 |
| vesivialvy93: James demery...probably because Kasparov ask for money to put his name in that game...it's more a question of laws and rights than anything else...maybe i'm wrong ??!! |
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| Apr-01-09 |
| James Demery: I wasn`t aware CM paid GM`s for that. You may be right. |
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| Apr-01-09 |
| SamAtoms1980: I have a great deal of respect for that old man, but he once turned one of my good friends into a possum.... |
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May-08-09
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| BishopBerkeley: I just installed "Chessmaster: Grandmaster Edition" on my PC, and I was delighted to discover that it can run without the CD! (Earlier versions of Chessmaster have required you to keep the CD in the CD tray.) This is a significant improvement, most welcome. True, the full installation does take up nearly 3 GB on the hard drive, but in this age of terabyte drives, that's not so bad. (And you can choose to exclude certain features from installation if hard drive space is an issue.) My experience with Chessmaster (in its various versions over the years) has been very positive. I hope Ubisoft (the present holding company for Chessmaster) will retain this CD-free operation in future versions. Hope you are all in good spirits.
(:  Bishop Berkeley :) |
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| May-08-09 |
| KKDEREK: <BishopBerkeley> I had a chessmaster also but I erased. Actually , this version is almost the same of chessmaster 10. The interface is great. Ubisoft have a good taste in layouts, but I dont like the engine.. Unlike Rybka or Shredder, or Fritz, you can ajust the engine for your level without loose quality of the game.
In Chessmaster, when you apply some engine "handicap" you got to live with stupid machine blunders.. I can't believe Ubisoft still didn't fix this bug..
But is a nice game, very family oriented with nice tutorials etc. |
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May-08-09
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| BishopBerkeley: <KKDEREK> Thanks for your thoughts! I agree with you that Ubisoft has good taste in layouts. The interface really has been improved, to my thinking. They've made some effort to render some of the House of Staunton Chess sets in the 3D mode, and some of them are quite playable and pleasant to look at. Some of the Chessmaster "personalities" do make rather obvious blunders -- not the kind of organic blunders a human player would typically make, but just nonsense moves. But I find that above a certain level, some of the "mistakes" are at least somewhat interesting! And yes, as a teaching and learning tool, it really is very good. Hope you will get a copy of the latest version!
Best wishes....
(: Bishop Berkeley :) |
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| May-08-09 |
| ILikeFruits: i have...
chessmassa...
10th edition...
:O |
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| May-08-09 |
| Sydro: i have...
chessmassa...
3rd edition...
:O |
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| May-08-09 |
| ILikeFruits: really...
:O |
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| May-23-09 |
| Sicilian Dragon: indeed....
:O |
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| May-23-09 |
| WhiteRook48: i have....
chessmassa....
seventy-fifth edition... |
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