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|Aug-29-15|| ||saturn2: <jith1207: Geller played with Vishy Anand>He also played against me in a simultanous 1983 or 1984. He opened the games e4 and d4 alternatively. He got angry when someone touched a piece and would not move it. From the results point of view he clobbered all the participants and there were some 2000 players amongst them.
<offramp: vodka-drinker> I cannot confirm that, but before this game I had Geller in mind from a book of the chess olympiad 1953 where he seemed thin, introvert, highly intellectual and he was already called 'The Russian Morphy' at this time according to a book on the Olympiad.
So I was rather surprised to see a ca 100 kg extrovert man.|
|Aug-29-15|| ||Fusilli: <saturn2> The 1939 Buenos Aires event was the last olympiad played in an odd-numbered year. Maybe you mean 1952 (Helsinki) or 1954 (Amsterdam) (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess...), or maybe you mean the Zurich candidates in 1953?|
I remember reading an interview in New In Chess where the person being interviewed referred to Geller as someone who always made a lot of fuss about everything, which is consistent with getting angry at someone for touching a piece and not moving it at a simul exhibition. But I can't remember who the interviewee was. I think Smyslov.
|Aug-29-15|| ||saturn2: Fusilli: It was Helsinki. I remember the book well although I dont have it any more. It was one of my first chessbooks. In the Soviet team were Smyslov, Boleslavsky, Kotov, Bronstein and Geller. I also remember all their fotos. Best performance had another guy called Kothenauer or something like that. Geller played a lot of Kingindians in this tournament and the author of the book (Mueller?) described this opening as something newly discovered and almost mystical.|
|Dec-06-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: Korchnoi on Geller:
<Geller is quite a good attacker, but he calculates variations badly - he wastes a lot of time, and often does not believe in himself.>
|Dec-06-15|| ||offramp: How did Kortschnoi know what was going on inside Geller's head?|
|Dec-06-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: <offramp: How did Kortschnoi know what was going on inside Geller's head?>|
Perhaps Kortschnoi was secretly a member of the thought police.
|Mar-08-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, GM Efim Geller.
Close, but no cigar.
|Jun-26-16|| ||brankat: Geller could have said the same thing about Korchnoi :-)|
|Jul-26-16|| ||offramp: <brankat: Geller could have said the same thing about Korchnoi :-)>|
The image in my brain is of Geller and Korchnoi simultaneously pointing to various squares on the chessboard while saying in ever-louder voices,
<"He goes here NO he goes there then I go here NO I go there then he goes NO I've lost it He goes there NO he goes over there whose move is it? He goes there...">
|Aug-27-16|| ||morfishine: <offramp> Speaking of look-alikes, I always thought Robert Vaughn looked like Efim Geller: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...|
Perhaps Geller was a KGB spy chess playing actor all along lol
|Aug-27-16|| ||offramp: <morfishine>. Wow. You are right. He is the uncle from Murmansk.|
|Aug-27-16|| ||morfishine: <offramp> Vaughn and Geller both have that dimple on the chin that makes them appear virtually indistinguishable. According to ancient Persian Lore, the dimple on the chin is a sign of great beauty, though in this case, I find neither Vaughn or Geller beautiful|
Whats that dimple on the chin called medically? Oh yes: chin dimple or dimple chin; or the less popular cleft chin or chin cleft
Thats all I've got
|Aug-27-16|| ||offramp: Dimplus simplex normalis mandibilis.|
|Dec-13-16|| ||TheFocus: Quote of the day:
<Players who are devoted to certain opening systems know how unpleasant it can be to play against oneself in the purely psychological sense> - Efim Geller.
So says the man who beat Fischer with his own pet variation, the Poisoned Pawn Variation of the Sicilian.
Fischer vs Geller, 1967
|Dec-16-16|| ||maelith: <How did Kortschnoi know what was going on inside Geller's head?>|
Perhaps it is based with Korchnoi playing many times against Geller. There maybe situations against Korchnoi where Geller took lots of time before making a move,and that move is a mistake.
Classical games: Viktor Korchnoi beat Efim Geller 11 to 6, with 15 draws.
This positive score by Korchnoi against Geller is maybe because Korchnoi is a great defender. Korchnoi also loves complication. Tal also has a negative score against Korchnoi. I am impressed that even a young Kasparov can dominate Korchnoi.
|Mar-08-17|| ||CountryGirl: Happy birthday in heaven, Efim Petrovich.
It's interesting that Geller had plus scores against the great 'strategists' Petrosian, Smyslov and Botvinnik, but minus scores against those with a more similar style to himself, including Keres and Spassky.
|Mar-08-17|| ||RookFile: Geller was one of the more prepared players in the world with regard to his openings.|
|Mar-08-17|| ||Sularus: One of the greats who didn't become world champion. happy birthday!|
|Mar-08-17|| ||Howard: Regarding CountryGirl's comment, Geller also had a plus score against Bobby-what's-his-name.|
In fact, he beat him in tournament play more often than anyone else, including three times in a row from 1965-67.
|Mar-08-17|| ||Petrosianic: You can't always go by that kind of thing, due to the fact that top GM's often simply stop playing real games with each other after a while.|
When Petrosian and Geller drew their final game in 1983, they hadn't had a decisive result with each other in 20 years, and most of their games stopped being real ones. There are a lot of other long-time opponents who do the same thing.
One who DIDN'T do it was Tal vs. Spassky. After Spassky won their Candidates Final in 1965, he never won another game from Tal in his life. Spassky turned Russian Bear against him. Tal, on the other hand, still had a lot of fight left against Spassky, and managed to win 5 games in that time. As a result, he reduced his lifetime deficit against Spassky from 9-1 to 9-6.
|Mar-08-17|| ||Petrosianic: Another funny thing about Petrosian and Geller. They drew most of their games through their whole life. But they had two decisive games in the 1956 Candidates.|
Vasiliev's book explains that in their Round 1 game, Petrosian was amenable to another draw as usual, got a slightly superior position, and offered it. But Geller was in a fighting mood, said no, Petrosian got rattled and lost.
The next time they played, Petrosian had to avenge that loss, of course, so he went out and played one of his all-time best games. So, two decisive results. But had Geller taken that draw offer in the first game, probably both games would have been drawn.
Petrosian vs Geller, 1956
|Mar-08-17|| ||plang: OK - so I had to check - it is true that all their games after 1963 were drawn but from 1949-63 they played 8 decisive game which is mot unusually low.|
|Mar-08-17|| ||Petrosianic: True, they did play a decent number of real and decisive games before 1963. But they also had plenty of non-games. I show they played 20 draws in 30 moves or less between 1949 and 1963. In fact, I only see ONE draw that went more than 30 moves in all those years, and only three lifetime (out of 32 total draws).|
|Mar-08-17|| ||Petrosianic: It's always tough when friends play each other. Aren't there those two sisters (I forget their names), who not only draw all their games, but play the SAME game each time, move for move?|
|Mar-08-17|| ||Petrosianic: The Kosintseva sisters, that's it. But it's been a few years since I last checked them out (figuratively speaking) and I see that they were actually forced to play real games (with some decisive results), when they met in the 2012
FIDE Knockout Women's Championship.
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