Jul-12-04
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| vonKrolock: Prince Andre Dadian of Mingrelia played in Paris 1867 whith a pseudonym, i have not a document in hands at this moment, but i'm sure that E. D'Andre was his nick... (subject to confirmation) |
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| Jul-23-05 |
| SBC: <vonKrolock>
<Emile D'Andre was indeed one of the contestants in Paris 1867. But I am highly curious about the idea that he was (or might have been) really Andrei Dadiani. Do you know if there anyway possible to confirm this? |
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Jul-25-05
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| vonKrolock: <SBC> I assume this as a fact, although I cannot find my original source in moment (I’ll not find strange it was some on-line reading...) ; my habitual paper references, one of them the 1916 Bilguer – ignore or refers to the three local amateurs that completed the field of 13 players only as “Three Club Players from Paris”... While on the subject – Loyd wrote from Paris an amusing letter to his friend Eugene Cook in America , describing some of the Paris 1867 participants – It’s in White’s “Sam Loyd and his Chess Problems” – if You have not this book, I can trancribe here the quoted passages of this letter, because it’s very curious... |
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| Jul-25-05 |
| SBC: <vonKrolock>
The thing about Andrei Dadiani playing under the pseudonym Emile D'Andre in 1867 is that Prince Dadian, born in 1850, would have only been 17 in 1867. I wonder if it's likely that an unproven 17 year old would be in such a tournament. Above, in the list of games by D'Andre, there is one against Serafino Dubois in 1879. Why might he play with a pseudonym in that tournament in Paris in 1867, and then play 2 games vs. Steinitz in Paris, 1867 and a Game vs Kolisch in Homberg 1867 under his real name?
...then play Von Marlozan 2 games in 1879 under his own name but revert back to the old pseudonym to play Dubois 3 years later? That's why I was curious about the source.
No, I have never read (or even seen) White’s “Sam Loyd and his Chess Problems”. I would love to read Loyd's letter to Cook. Both Loyd and Cook, two of America's most famous problemists, as you probably know, were admirers of Morphy. |
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Jul-25-05
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| vonKrolock: <SBC:Loyd and Cook, two of America's most famous problemists, as you probably know, were admirers of Morphy.> Certainly they were, and I have good grounds to believe that the admiration was reciprocal, being Cook a pioneer and indefatigable editor ( the mammoth collection "American Chess Nuts" from 1868 surely cheered up many of Morphy's hours between café-au-lait and Opera time) - and Loyd is a colossus of chess composition, the intemporal absolute genius in the field <I would love to read Loyd's letter to Cook.> great, so i posted it in Sam Loyd page |
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May-24-07
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| vonKrolock: <my habitual paper references, one of them the 1916 Bilguer – ignore or refers to the three local amateurs that completed the field of 13 players only as “Three Club Players from Paris”.> In his 'Chess Note' number 4988, May 2007, Edward Winter identifies this player as Baron D'Andre, "born in Paris" according to the Paris 1867 Tournament's book - More about him is found in the 1867 volume of the magazine "La Stratégie", a lively description of him playing Rousseau in the Tournament, and the researched that provided the information, Mr. Owen Hindle from England also reminds that his portrait is in the famous Sam Loyd's 'photografic chessboard' - (maybe that initial <Prince Andre Dadian of Mingrelia played in Paris 1867 whith a pseudonym> do not invalidate Emile D'Andre existence and participation in Paris 1867... |
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