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| Iskubadayb: <spawn2>
<With regard to board assignment, this is my suggestion:Board 1 - <GM Wesley So> No question about this one. GM Wes has been the strongest amongst our GM for the past 2 years Board 2 - <GM Joey Antonio> He has been in a zone lately with current "live rating" of around 2570, his career best Board 3 - <GM Eugene Torre> Time to relax and let the young ones do the dirty job. His been doing it for more than 30 years. But is always on standby to battle the world's best. Experience is the key Board 4 - <GM Darwin Laylo> Second time around in WCC, very impressive performance in his past two tournaments. Can score the needed points on the lower board Board 5 - <GM John Paul Gomez> Can alternate with GM Darwin in chalking up the precious points So, what is your board order?>
Anybody can legitimately argue for anyone in the line-up to play a certain board but I think that in the end, your dream line-up is as good as any! Though, if I were the captain, I'll ask Eugene in private what board he prefers to play except board 1. And if Darwin beats Navara which I am expecting he will, I'll put him in a higher board than Joey. |
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| Nov-22-09 |
| Talimuzakh: <Though, if I were the captain, I'll ask Eugene in private what board he prefers to play except board 1.> E. Torre should be the Captain. |
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| Nov-22-09 |
| Iskubadayb: You don't want Eugene to play? |
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Nov-22-09
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| spawn2: GM Eugene can be the playing team captain ala Jawo who was the playing coach of Ginebra : ) |
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| Nov-23-09 |
| Iskubadayb: You can be a playing captain in a physical sport but not in chess because you have to be relaxed and stress-free before battle. Chess team captain has to wake up early and take care of all the team's needs. He has to communicate with the organizers regarding pairings and other related matters. Then, there's logistics, provisions, etc... Paktay ang ating bayani lalo na at medyo lampas kwarenta na ang edad! Kwarentay-dos na ata si bradidik e... hehehe. |
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Nov-23-09
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| HeMateMe: <Chess team captain has to wake up early and take care of all the team's needs.> He has to check and see if anyone is still drunk, put on a pot of black cofee, find a magic hangover cure, put out matching socks for everyone, and get Tal and Fischer to the board on time... |
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Nov-25-09
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| spawn2: <guys>
GM Wesley's (2640) win vs GM Chucky (2739)reminds me of GM Eugene's (24++) win against the great Mikhail Tal (26++) in the 1973 Interzonals : ) |
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Nov-29-09
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| Richard Taylor: I think IM Ortvin Sarapu of NZ had some games with Torre. |
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| spawn2: <Richard Taylor>
Yes, Torre had 4 games based on CG database against Sarapu. With GM Eugene winning 2 and drawing the rest. Sarapu's games is part of the game collection in Purdy's books. |
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| Nov-29-09 |
| Allan D: Highlights of Eugene Torre's career:
-1973 Moscow Interzonal-scalping Super GM and former world chess champ Mischa Tal.
-1974 Nice Olympiad he became Asia's First GM since GM title was institutionalized in 1951!
-1976 topping the quadrangular chess match featuring the World champ, US champ, European Champ and Asian Champ! he defeats GM and World champ Tolya Karpov.
-1982 topped the interzonal with lajos Portisch.
-1983 square off opposite the Magyar GM Zoltan Ribli, he lost by a whisker!
-Plus score against Mischa Tal.even in the blitz game, Tal is no match against Torre.Really mysterious since most of the top GM even Gazza has a tough time playing Tal.
- Many time Asian Zonal champ and RP champ!
Rest muna ako,,,, so many good stories to write to our very own Eugene Torre. |
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| timhortons: <1982 topped the interzonal with lajos Portisch.> <spawn2>, ang interzonal ba,ito ang world cup sa ngayon? na surpass na ba ni wesley ang record ni eugene o hindi pa? |
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| Nov-29-09 |
| Allan D: During the Moscow Olympiad in 1994, Torre was also mobbed by Russian chess fans for autograph. |
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| Nov-29-09 |
| Iskubadayb: <timhortons: <1982 topped the interzonal with lajos Portisch.>
<spawn2>, ang interzonal ba,ito ang world cup sa ngayon? na surpass na ba ni wesley ang record ni eugene o hindi pa?> The world ch cycle today is quite different from before. Before, you have 3 interzonals and the top 2 from each interzonal qualifies for the world candidates match along with the 2 finalists from the last candidates. So, you have 8 players playing 4 matches. The winners play each other and the winner of the finals match face will play the world champion for the world championship match. Eugene Torre was in that top 8! He also had a good chance of getting in the top 4 but breaks did not go his way.
Today, the cycle is much complicated. In this Cup, the top 10 here already qualifies for the candidates matches along with the top 5 highest rated players (carlsen & co.) plus the world champion. They go on a series of matches and more tournaments later until the world championship is decided. If I were to make a calculated guess, if Wesley gets in the final 4 of this cup, he has equalled GM Torre's feat. Wesley then, has to qualify in the final 8 of the final phase to surpass it. |
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| Nov-29-09 |
| Iskubadayb: apologies for typos. :) |
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| Nov-29-09 |
| Iskubadayb: I do not know if anybody can match the achievements of El Eugenio. National titles, Asian titles, Zonal wins, Interzonal win, Asian team title victories, Olympiads, etc... The hardest in my estimate are the two wins against World Champion Anatoly Karpov when Karpov was at his peak!! Karpov rarely loses a game at that time!! Wesley started his quest much earlier, SO if anyone has a chance to get close, it is him. |
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Nov-29-09
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| timhortons: <Iskubadayb>
salamat. |
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Nov-29-09
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| spawn2: <timh> Wesley is not yet there..but greatness beckons. Hirap pa rin pantayan ginawa ni Eugene right now but it is possible in the future. Sabi ni GM Eugene, his best performance was his topping the 1976 Marlboro Classic by beating Karpov (World Champion), Ljubojevic (European Champion), and Browne (American Champion). Wesley will have to top a tournament composed of Anand, Carlsen and Nikamura (I hope am accurate) to be at par with Torre as far as his performance in the Marlboro classic is concerned. |
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Nov-29-09
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| timhortons: <spawn2>
marami pang panahon sa pag aaral ang gagawin ni wesley para mapantayan si master torre. ok salamt uli. |
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| Nov-29-09 |
| rjsolcruz: According to GM Eugene the other day, if GM Wesley advances to R5 at the expense of Malakhov, it is already equivalent to the Candidates matches that he has achieved before and thus equals the Philippine record. But Wesley is just 16. |
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| Nov-29-09 |
| rjsolcruz: GMA News.TV
Torre helps Fischer’s daughter in claim to dad’s estate
11/29/2009 | 11:11 AM
Grandmaster Eugene Torre will accompany Jinky Young, the Filipino daughter of the late chess icon Bobby Fischer, to Iceland on Nov. 30 to follow-up on Young's claim to the estate left by her father. Torre and Young will be traveling with her mother Marilyn and lawyer Sammy Estimo in a bid to get her claim to Fisher’s estate consisting of 140 million Icelandic kronur (£ 1.07 million) and gold deposited at the Landsbanki Islands. Fischer, a chess legend who died January 17 of last year, is married to Japanese Miyoko Watai, whom the Icelandic Supreme Court adjudged as Fischer's lawful wife. But Estimo countered that based on Icelandic law, the lawful wife can only get one third of the estate while the remaining two-thirds of the estate goes to the surviving child, in this case Jinky. The group’s next stop after Iceland will be London where the filming on the life of whom many considered as the world’s greatest woodpusher is in full swing. Fischer’s legend grew tremendously when he defeated Boris Spassky during the Cold War era. The face-off, considered by many as the Chess Match of the Century, was held in 1972 in Reykjavik. Jinky was born when Fischer lived in Baguio City where he met Marilyn through Torre. – Perry Legaspi, GMANews.TV |
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| mysql: <spawn2: <timh> Wesley is not yet there..but greatness beckons. Hirap pa rin pantayan ginawa ni Eugene right now but it is possible in the future. Sabi ni GM Eugene, his best performance was his topping the 1976 Marlboro Classic by beating Karpov (World Champion), Ljubojevic (European Champion), and Browne (American Champion). <Wesley will have to top a tournament composed of Anand, Carlsen and Nikamura (I hope am accurate) to be at par with Torre as far as his performance in the Marlboro classic is concerned>.> That's a tough act to follow. :o) |
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Nov-29-09
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| spawn2: <According to GM Eugene the other day, if GM Wesley advances to R5 at the expense of Malakhov, it is already equivalent to the Candidates matches that he has achieved before and thus equals the Philippine record. But Wesley is just 16.> Aside from GM Wesley's age, the availability of chess technology will give him better chances of reaching and even exceeding GM Torre's record. Am sure GM Eugene will not mind since as they say there should always be an improvement of the race. Also, GM Eugene's status as "Asia's First Grandmaster" will forever be his. Go GM Eugene, Go GM Wes! |
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Nov-30-09
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| Richard Taylor: < spawn2: <Richard Taylor> Yes, Torre had 4 games based on CG database against Sarapu. With GM Eugene winning 2 and drawing the rest. Sarapu's games is part of the game collection in Purdy's books. > Thanks - do you know I had 2 draws versus Sarapu? In both I had a strong attacks - both were very exciting and quite long games - in one I had piece up a and I was winning but l lost track, but I still got a draw! I knew him quite well since I was about 12! I recall he played Torre - I have one of Ortvin's books and one about Purdy's games but I think they are his Correspondence games. |
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Nov-30-09
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| spawn2: <Richard Taylor>
You must be very good, drawing with an IM and in two games at that : ) |
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| Nov-30-09 |
| Iskubadayb: <spawn2: <According to GM Eugene the other day, if GM Wesley advances to R5 at the expense of Malakhov, it is already equivalent to the Candidates matches that he has achieved before and thus equals the Philippine record. But Wesley is just 16.> Oh yeah, because Wes gets into the candidates match if he reaches round 5. <If I were to make a calculated guess, if Wesley gets in the final 4 of this cup, he has equalled GM Torre's feat. Wesley then, has to qualify in the final 8 of the final phase to surpass it.> Here, I'm talking more about the level of difficulty. It was way harder to get in the candidates before. Eugene had to squeak by Spassky by half a point and Ivanov, Yusupov, Polugaevsky and Seirawan were just a point behind! |
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