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| Karpova: no, 92 years to be exact |
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Nov-26-06
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| IMlday: This year Zoltan Sarosy turned 100. He and Bohatirchuk were postal rivals:
Z Sarosy vs F Bohatirchuk, 1976
Chess Mail, the Dublin-based correspondence magazine, devoted issue ISSN 1393-385X to Bohatirchuk, before it unfortunately folded. Holland's Michiel Plomp won the postal memorial event. The full book on Fedor is still in editing. |
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| Nov-20-07 |
| xeroxmachine: 91 years to be even more exact, he never lived through his ninety-second birthday. |
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Nov-26-07
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| whiteshark: player of the day |
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| Mar-05-08 |
| mack: So, what's the sitch with the Bohatirchuk Project then? |
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Mar-05-08
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| IMlday: the mills of the gods grind slow
but they grind exceeding fine. |
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Mar-06-08
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| Calli: I think that means the price has gone up :-( |
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| Mar-06-08 |
| eremite: http://www.newinchess.com/Masterpie... - this new book is full of well annotated games of Bohatirchuk, as well as of rich citations of his unique memoirs. It should be translated and published somewhere in US or UK |
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| Mar-06-08 |
| MichAdams: <Meet Botvinnik in his younger years, his rivalry with Nikolai Ruimin, Levenfish, Alekhine(!) and many other early-Soviet giants.> He didn't play Alekhine until 1936, so I don't know if this is just an error, or deliberately misleading. And they spelled <seperately> incorrectly, as well. |
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Mar-06-08
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| Calli: A friend who reads Russian tells me that the book is great but much of it already in Voronkov's columns at Chesspro.ru |
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| Mar-07-08 |
| eremite: Right, but if one cannot read in Russian, he can enjoy neither articles at chesspro.ru nor a book... |
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Mar-28-08
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| Resignation Trap: For a photo of Bohatirchuk in the role of a radiologist see: http://dfcc.narod.ru/FCCU/Tournamen... . |
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Mar-28-08
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| Resignation Trap: If that link doesn't work, try: http://dfcc.narod.ru/FCCU/Tournamen... . |
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Jun-25-08
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| whiteshark: "My great attraction to chess was much because it was democratic: race, religion, class, or age had no bearing at all. In chess, we are just like children, being interested, first of all, in everything unexpected, new,
marvellous."
-- Fedor P. Bohatirchuk |
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Oct-28-08
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| stoy: Bohatirchuk's lifetime score against M.M. Botvinnik was 3.5 / 0.5 - pretty good! |
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| Oct-30-08 |
| Karpova: C.N. 5816 shows a photograph of Bohatirchuk's grave (taken by Irene Ben-Tchavtchavadze) and Yakov Zusmanovich writes: <Currently I am cooperating with Sergey Voronkov on his book about Bohatirchuk. We are going to re-issue Bohatirchuk’s volume 'Moi zhiznenny put’ k Vlasovu i Prazhskomu Manifestu', which was published in Russian in San Francisco in 1978. In addition to Bohatirchuk’s own text, the book will include a collection of his games, articles and documents. There will be an extensive introduction by Boris Spassky.> Readers who can help him (they <are particularly interested in the games from Bohatirchuk’s match against Stepan Popel in Cracow and from a tournament in Radom. Both events took place in 1944.>) should contact Edward Winter. Source: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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| Dec-11-08 |
| Karpova: Ludek Pachman: <However, while reminiscing about those days I find some consolation in the knowledge that I conducted debates of this type only with people who lived in safety and have not harmed a single person who lived under our system. Precisely because of this I am now meeting in exile people of whom I must ask forgiveness for my past remarks. This I would also like to do in our case. When in your reply to my article in "CHESS" you made me an offer to come to Canada, where you would help me, I used to consider it a mockery. Only later it became clear to me that your invitation was a serious and sincere expression of your noble character and your true love for a fellow human.> From a letter to Fedor Bohatirchuk (26 January 1979, originally written in German) printed on pages 156-157 of "CHESS", April 1980. Source: Edward Winter's "Pachman, Bohatirchuk and Politics", 2003.
Link: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Dec-15-08
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| maxi: What is the evidence for Bohatirchuk being the role model for Dr. Zhivago in Pasternak's novel? |
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Feb-14-09
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| whiteshark: Here is a link to his xl wiki-bio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_... |
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Mar-07-09
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| Benzol: Anything yet on those games from Prague 1944 that <Gypsy> mentioned on page 1 of this thread or have the wheels stopped on the project? |
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Mar-15-09
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| Richard Taylor: <Gypsy: At one point I came accross a thought that a soviet-style system could have succeeded if it were composed of people like Botvinnik. The flaw of that thought is that Botvinnik would not stand another Botvinnik in the same land. He took a resolute preemptive action against any, real or perceived challenge to his top-dog possition (Levenfish, Bronstein, ...) When Botvinnik did not feel challenged, he was a humorless but benevolent king. Most understood that and kept safe by giving Botvinnik wide berth (Ragozin, Flohr, Keres, ...). ..> Despite everything that is said about this bloke - and I know Stalin was a bad egg - but this Bohatirchuk may have collaborated withe Nazis..which would make it understandable that Botvinnik wasn't keen on him... or his book published by (and for?) the Nazis...also these chess rivalries lead to statements such as "hang him" etc but it is heresay - Botters was probably a bit grumpy but this doesn't necess. mean he was evil. And the model for Zhivago? Sounds as as though the bloke romanticised himself... also... was he that good? Still it is very interesting. |
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| Mar-15-09 |
| rchczrms: This guy looks like Chaplin without the hat. |
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Mar-15-09
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| Benzol: I don't want to steal anyones thunder or rain on anybodys parade and I'm not even sure about its authenticity but I found the following gamescore. [Event "?"]
[Site "Prague, Czechoslovakia"]
[Date "1944.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Pachman, Ludek"]
[Black "Bohatirchuk, Fedor P"]
[ECO "B95"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "78"]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.Qf3 Be7 8.O-O-O Nbd7 9.Be2 Qc7 10.Qg3 O-O 11.h4 Kh8 12.f4 Nc5 13.Bf3 Bd7 14.e5 dxe5 15.fxe5 Ng8 16.Bf4 Rfd8 17.h5 h6 18.Rhe1 Be8 19.Qf2 Rd7 20.Rd2 Rad8 21.Red1 Bf8 22.g4 Ne7 23.Qe3 Qb6 24.g5 Nf5 25.Nxf5 exf5 26.gxh6 gxh6 27.Nd5 Qe6 28.Kb1 Ne4 29.Bxe4 fxe4 30.Qxe4 f5 31.Qf3 Bf7 32.c4 Qc6 33.Qc3 Be6 34.Qb3 b5 35.cxb5 axb5 36.Qc3 Qb7 37.Ne3 Qe4+ 38.Nc2 Rxd2 39.Bxd2 Rc8 0-1 Perhaps someone can tell us if it's really the game they played in Prague in 1944 that <Gypsy> alluded to on page one of this thread. |
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Apr-13-09
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| Gypsy: <Benzol> Yes, that is the Game 1 of the 1944 Match that Bohatirchuk won (7.5-0.5) against the local masters in Prague (Pachman: "Eight games by GM Bogatyrchuk"). Pachman spoiled the game in time scramble; control was at move 38, if I recall correctly. -- I do hope that those games will get published soon. |
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Apr-13-09
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| Gypsy: <... or his book published by (and for?) the Nazis ...> I may be the source of a misconception here. Just to make it clear: The "book" (8-Games of GM Bohatirchuk) were notes/pamphlet personally typewritten by Pachman, sometime during the Winter of 1944/45. Nazi propaganda and or printing resources had really nothing to do with it. (We just did not know what it was til a copy was discovered by IM Gerard Welling.) |
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