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| aragorn69: I'm looking for Yates'win against Alekhine in San Remo 1923(?). Help anyone ? |
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Dec-03-03
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| Resignation Trap: Alekhine didn't lose any games at San Remo, 1930. Maybe you mean Karlsbad, 1923? If so, here it is:
Alekhine vs Yates, 1923
or Hastings, 1922:
Alekhine vs Yates, 1922 |
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| Dec-03-03 |
| aragorn69: Thanks a LOT, RT. I had wrong information, but it was the Karlsbad game I was looking for... |
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Dec-06-03
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| Resignation Trap: In my earlier post, I gave two games which Yates defeated Alekhine with the Black pieces. In both games, Yates started an attack and drove Alekhine's King all over the board. An interesting third game between these two took place in London, 1922. Alekhine vs Yates, 1922 In this game, Alekhine voluntarily moves his King up the board, and wins a Rook by doing so. |
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| Jun-10-06 |
| BIDMONFA: Frederick D Yates YATES, Frederick D.
http://www.bidmonfa.com/yates_frede...
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| Dec-03-06 |
| sfm: A hilarious story (as it goes): Tarrach had objected against Yates' participation in Hamburg 1910, stating that Yates was too weak a player. Well, Yates won only one - guess against who!
Tarrasch vs Yates, 1910 |
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Jul-15-07
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| Karpova: <Sir Thomas [sic] and Yates are typical representatives of the English school and style of chess, especially Yates. This school, founded by the great combination of players, Blackburne and Mason and the ingenious, although less profound, Bird, always lay greater stress on a thorough study of each tactical unit of a scheme than on judging the expediency of such a scheme. That they had good results despite such a primitive conception of chess was due, especially by Blackburne, first to their extraordinary combinatorial talent and, second, to the fact that Steinitz’s epoch-making explanations of the principles of chess strategy were then only beginning to become popular. This is quite different nowadays when every average champion is well equipped with strategical knowledge, especially those players who lay chief stress on the tactical moment in a match, and who must possess the most exact calculation and never-failing sharpness. For such types of players the signs of the older class are simply pernicious. Therefore it is not surprising that masters like Sir Thomas [sic] and Yates – who also in former times seldom detected the entire plan beyond a single move – are being driven to the background of the chess arena.> Alexander Alekhine
On Carlsbad 1929 for the New York Times
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Dec-22-07
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| Diagonale du Fou: I've read conflicting versions of <Yates's death>. One is that, always in straitened financial conditions, he committed suicide during the Depression. Another is that he starved to death, like Schlechter. Yet another is that it was an accidental gaspipe death, the one mentioned in the Chessgames bio squib above. Yates is on the receiving end of one of my favorite games of all time: the New York 1924 Indian Defense in which Capablanca's Knights dance the Black King out of countenance, featuring an incredible N wheel. |
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Dec-22-07
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| CapablancaFan: <Diagonale du Fou> I believe this is the game your referring to. Capablanca vs Yates, 1924 Funny in all their encounters, Yates did not even win 1 game against Capablanca. |
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Dec-22-07
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| Diagonale du Fou: Yes <CaoablancaFan>, that's the game of course. One of my favorite games. From one of my favorite old-time tournaments, with a great showing for Lasker, and a classic tournament book by Alekhine. Yates was able to win a few from Alekhine and Tarrasch, but the Chess Machine could conjure up too many ways to steer Yates to ultra-precise endgame playing. Yates didn't do too well at all in New York 1924. The tournament director, Herman Helms, and his associates wanted someone else originally - I believe it was Thomas - but the latter received the notification too late to make arrangements for a trip to New York, and they got Yates instead. |
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Feb-12-08
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| brankat: <CapablancaFan> There was a number of players, some much stronger than Yates, who were not able to win a single game against Capablanca :-) |
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Feb-12-08
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| brankat: For example:
Vidmar
Nimzowitsch
Bogoljubov
Bernstein
Tartakower. |
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May-06-08
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| Karpova: <Diagonale du Fou: I've read conflicting versions of <Yates's death>. One is that, always in straitened financial conditions, he committed suicide during the Depression. Another is that he starved to death, like Schlechter. Yet another is that it was an accidental gaspipe death, the one mentioned in the Chessgames bio squib above.> Edward Winter deals with this myth:
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... (the second myth) Yates' death was an accident caused by a leakage in one of the fittings of a gas pipe. A gas company official proved that no tap was turned on. <On page 525 of the December 1932 BCM P.W. Sergeant presented the facts in a way that seemed to preclude any possibility of suicide: ‘The circumstances of his end were tragic. On the night of Tuesday, 8 November he gave a very successful exhibition at Wood Green, only dropping one half-point in 16 games. On the following night he was in the company of a chess friend until fairly late, and then went back to his room in Coram Street, Bloomsbury. He was never seen alive again. It was not until Friday morning that anxiety was felt at Coram Street as to what he might be doing; for he was in the habit of secluding himself for many hours at a stretch when busy with work. On Friday, however, when no answer could be got to knocks on the door of his room, which was locked, and a smell of gas was noticed, the door was at last broken open, and he was found dead in bed. It came out at the inquest before the St Pancras coroner on 15 November that, though the gas-taps in the room were securely turned off, there had been an escape from what a gas company’s official described as an obsolete type of fitting attached to the meter in the room. The meter, it appears, was on the floor, and the fitting must have been accidentally dislodged. A verdict was recorded of Accidental Death; and the coroner directed that the gas-pipes from the room should remain in the custody of the court. The body was conveyed to Leeds for burial on the morning of 16 November.’> |
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