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Garry Kasparov
Number of games in database: 2,349
Years covered: 1973 to 2012
Last FIDE rating: 2812
Highest rating achieved in database: 2851
Overall record: +779 -116 =766 (70.0%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      688 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (192) 
    B30 B40 B31 B50 B33
 Ruy Lopez (102) 
    C92 C84 C97 C67 C80
 Nimzo Indian (86) 
    E32 E34 E21 E20 E46
 Queen's Gambit Declined (81) 
    D37 D31 D35 D30 D38
 Queen's Indian (80) 
    E12 E15 E17 E16
 Slav (63) 
    D19 D10 D15 D11 D17
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (341) 
    B90 B84 B82 B83 B22
 King's Indian (157) 
    E92 E97 E76 E60 E75
 Sicilian Najdorf (111) 
    B90 B92 B97 B93 B96
 Grunfeld (98) 
    D85 D97 D76 D78 D87
 Sicilian Scheveningen (70) 
    B84 B82 B83 B80 B81
 English (34) 
    A15 A10 A11 A13
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Kasparov vs Topalov, 1999 1-0
   Karpov vs Kasparov, 1985 0-1
   Kasparov vs Kramnik, 1994 1-0
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1994 0-1
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990 1-0
   Kasparov vs Anand, 1995 1-0
   Karpov vs Kasparov, 1993 0-1
   Kasparov vs Portisch, 1983 1-0
   Adams vs Kasparov, 2005 0-1
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1986 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1984)
   Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1985)
   Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Rematch (1986)
   Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1987)
   Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1990)
   Kasparov - Short World Championship Match (1993)
   Kasparov - Anand World Championship Match (1995)
   Kasparov - Kramnik World Championship Match (2000)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Las Palmas (1996)
   Linares (1999)
   Linares (1997)
   Sarajevo (2000)
   Novgorod (1997)
   Wijk aan Zee Corus (2000)
   Astana (2001)
   Russian Championships 2004 (2004)
   10th Euwe Memorial (1996)
   XXII Torneo Ciudad de Linares (2005)
   Lichthof Chess Champions (2006)
   Tilburg Fontys (1997)
   Linares (1994)
   Bled Olympiad (2002)
   European Clubs Cup (Men) (2003)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Garry Kasparov's Best Games by KingG
   Kasparov's super simuls by crawfb5
   Match Kasparov! by amadeus
   Size GAZA by lonchaney
   senakash's favorite games by senakash
   kasparov best games by brager
   senakash's favorite games qgd by senakash
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 1990-1999 (Part 3) by Anatoly21
   KASPAROV GAMES by gambitfan
   Road to the Championship - Garry Kasparov (I) by Fischer of Men
   senakash's favorite games mini by senakash
   senakash's favorite games garry by senakash
   senakash's favorite games ruylopez by senakash
   Garry Kasparov's Greatest Chess Games (Stohl) by AdrianP

   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1987
   Kasparov vs Igor Ivanov, 1978

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(born Apr-13-1963) Azerbaijan (citizen of Russia)
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One of the greatest players of all time, Kasparov was undisputed World Champion from 1985 until 1993, and Classical World Champion from 1993 until 2000. Known to chess fans world wide as the <Beast From Baku> on account of his aggressive and highly successful style of play, his main early influence was the combative and combinative style of play displayed by Alexander Alekhine.

Early Years

Originally named Garry Kimovich Weinstein (or Weinshtein), he was born in Baku, in what was then the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic (now the Republic of Azerbaijan), and is the son of Klara Shagenovna Kasparova and Kim Moiseyevich Weinstein. At five years old, young Garry Weinstein taught himself how to play chess from watching his relatives solve chess puzzles in a newspaper. His immense natural talent was soon realized and from age 7, he attended the Young Pioneer Palace in Baku (where for some time he was known as "Garry Bronstein".*). At 10, he began training at the Mikhail Botvinnik Soviet chess school. He was first coached by Vladimir Andreevich Makogonov and later by Alexander Shakarov. Five years after his father's untimely death from leukaemia, the twelve year old chess prodigy adopted the Russian-sounding name Garry Kasparov (Kas-PARE-off) a reference to his mother's Armenian maiden name, Gasparyan (or Kasparian).


Junior Twelve-year old Kasparov won the Soviet Junior Championship, held in Tbilisi in 1976 scoring 7/9, and repeated his success in 1977, winning with a score of 8˝ of 9. The next several years were spent marking his rise as a world-class talent. He became World Junior Champion in 1980 in Dortmund, the same year he earned the grandmaster title.

National He first qualified for the Soviet Chess Championship at age 15 in 1978, the youngest ever player at that level. He won the 64-player Swiss system tournament at Daugavpils on tiebreak over Igor Vasilievich Ivanov, to capture the sole qualifying place. He was joint Soviet Champion in 1980-81 with Lev Psakhis ** and in 1988 Kasparov and Anatoly Karpov tied in the Super-Soviet Championship***. In 2004, Garry Kasparov won the Russian Championships 2004 (2004) with a stunning +5 score.

World On the basis of his result in the 1981 Soviet Championship, which doubled as a zonal tournament for the USSR region, he earned a place in the 1982 Moscow Interzonal tournament, which he won, to qualify for the Candidates Tournament matches that were held in 1983 and 1984. At age 19, he was the youngest Candidate since Robert James Fischer, who was 15 when he qualified in 1958. At this stage, he was already the #2-rated player in the world, trailing only world champion Karpov on the January 1983 list. These Candidates matches were the first and last Candidates matches Kasparov contested, as he declined to participate in the Candidates held under the auspices of the PCA in 2002 to decide a challenger to his successor as classical World Champion, Vladimir Kramnik. Kasparov's first Candidates match in Moscow was a best-of-ten affair against Alexander Beliavsky, whom he defeated 6–3 (+4 -1 =4). After much political ado, Kasparov defeated Viktor Korchnoi in London in the best-of-12 semi-final match by 7–4 (+4 -1 =6), and in early 1984 in Vilnius he defeated former World Champion Vasily Smyslov in the best-of-16 finals played by 8.5-4.5 (+4 =9 -0) to earn his challenge against Karpov. By the time the match with Smyslov was played, Kasparov had become the number-one ranked player in the world with a FIDE rating of 2710. He became the youngest ever world number-one, a record that lasted 12 years until being broken by Vladimir Kramnik in January 1996 and again by his former pupil, Magnus Carlsen in 2010.

At one stage during the Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1984), Kasparov trailed 5-0 in the first-to-win-6 match. He then fought back to win three games and bring the score to 5–3 in Karpov's favour after 48 games, making it the longest world championship match ever. At that point, the match was ended without result by the then FIDE President, the late Florencio Campomanes, with Karpov thus retaining the title. Further details can be found in the match link at the head of this paragraph. Kasparov won the best-of-24 games Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1985) in Moscow by 13–11, winning the 24th and last game with Black. He was then 22, the youngest ever World Champion, and broke the record held by Mikhail Tal for over 20 years. Karpov exercised his right to a rematch, the Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Rematch (1986), which took place in 1986, hosted jointly in London and Leningrad, with each city hosting 12 games. Kasparov scored of 12˝–11˝, retaining the title. The fourth match, the Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1987) in Seville. Karpov had been directly seeded into and won the final match of the Candidates' Matches to again become the official challenger. Kasparov retained his title by winning the final game and drawing the match 12–12. The fifth and last championship match between the two, Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1990), was held in New York and Lyon in 1990, with each city hosting 12 games. Kasparov won by 12˝–11˝. In their five world championship matches, the combined game tally was +21 -19 =104 in Kasparov’s favour.

Kasparov subsequently defended his title against Nigel Short under the auspices of the PCA in 1993, and against Viswanathan Anand in 1995. Five years later, in 2000 (Kasparov-Kramnik World Championship Match (2000)), Kasparov finally relinquished his crown to his former student, Vladimir Kramnik who was granted the right to challenge without having to qualify, the first time this had happened since 1935, when Alexander Alekhine selected Max Euwe as his challenger. Subsequently, Kasparov remained the top rated player in the world, ahead of both Kramnik and the FIDE World Champions, on the strength of a series of wins in major tournaments.

Under the "Prague Agreement” which was put together by Yasser Seirawan to reunite the two titles, Kasparov was to play a match against the 2002 FIDE World Champion Ruslan Ponomariov in September 2003. But this match was cancelled when Ponomariov was dissatisfied with the terms of the contract. Subsequent plans for a match against 2004 FIDE World Champion Rustam Kasimdzhanov, to be held in January 2005 in the United Arab Emirates fell through due to lack of funding. Shortly after this, Kasparov announced his retirement from competitive chess.

In an interview in 2007, Kasparov said that <…my decision in 1993 to break away from the world chess federation, FIDE, with Nigel Short was the worst mistake of my career. It was a serious miscalculation on my part. I thought we could start fresh with a professional organisation, but there was little support among the players. It led to short-term progress in commercial sponsorship for chess, but in the long run hurt the game...> ****

Classical Tournaments

In 1978, Kasparov won the Sokolsky Memorial tournament in Minsk as a wild card entry, a victory which convinced Kasparov he could aim for the World Championship. He played in a grandmaster tournament in Banja Luka, Yugoslavia in 1979 while still unrated, due to Korchnoi’s withdrawal. He took first place with an undefeated record, two points ahead of the field. Game Collection: Banja Luka 1979 He emerged with a provisional rating of 2595, immediately landing at world number 15, a feat only surpassed by Gata Kamsky in July 1990. His first win in a superclass-level international tournament was scored at Bugojno, Yugoslavia in 1982 and his win in Linares in 2002 is the tenth victory in a record for the most consecutive victories in super tournaments: Linares 4 (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, Wijk aan Zee 3 (1999, 2000, 2001), Sarajevo 2 (1999, 2000) and Astana 1 (2001). Kasparov also holds the record for most consecutive professional tournament victories, placing first or equal first in 15 individual tournaments from 1981 to 1990. It started with the 1981 USSR Championship and finished in Linares in 1990. His five epic title matches against Karpov were held during this period. Subsequently, Kasparov won Linares again in 1992, 1993, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2005, the latter being his swan song from the game.


Kasparov played in eight Olympiads. He represented the Soviet Union four times, in 1980, 1982, 1986 and 1988, and Russia four times: in 1992, 1994, 1996 and 2002 playing board 1 on each occasion apart from 1980 (2nd reserve) and 1982 (2nd board). In 82 games, he scored (+50 =29 -3), for 78.7% and won a total of 19 medals, including 8 team gold medals, 5 board golds, 2 performance golds, 2 performance silvers and 2 board bronzes. Kasparov also represented the USSR once in Youth Olympiad competition at Graz in 1981, when he played board 1 for the USSR board 1, scoring 9/10 (+8 =2 -0), the team winning the gold medal.

Team chess

Kasparov made his international teams debut for the USSR at age 16 in the 1980 European Team Championship at Skara and played for Russia in the 1992 edition of that championship. He won a total of five medals including at Skara 1980, as USSR 2nd reserve, 5˝/6 (+5 =1 -0), team gold, board gold and at Debrecen 1992, Russia board 1, 6/8 (+4 =4 -0), team gold, board gold, performance silver.


<Computer> Kasparov defeated the chess computer Deep Thought (Computer) in both games of a two-game match in 1989. In February 1996, he defeated IBM's chess computer Deep Blue (Computer) with three wins and two draws and one loss. In 1997, an updated version of Deep Blue defeated Kasparov 3˝–2˝ in a highly publicised six-game match. The match was even after five games but Kasparov lost Game 6 - Deep Blue vs Kasparov, 1997 - to lose the match. This was the first time a computer had ever defeated a world champion in match play. In January 2003, he played and drew a six game FIDE Man-Machine WC (2003) match against Deep Junior (Computer). In November 2003, he played and drew a four-game Man-Machine World Chess Championship (2003) against the computer program X3D Fritz (Computer) X3D Fritz, although he was constrained through the use of a virtual board, 3D glasses and a speech recognition system.

<Human – classical> Kasparov played several matches apart from his matches in the World Championship cycles. Full details can be seen at Game Collection: Match Kasparov!.

<Human – rapid> In 1998, Kasparov played a blitz match against Kramnik in Moscow, that match being drawn +7-7=10. He fared better in the 2000 internet blitz match against Judit Polgar, winning one and drawing one. The following year, he played a blitz match against the many times Greek speed chess champion Hristos Banikas of Greece, winning 5 and drawing one. In his 2002 blitz against Elisabeth Paehtz in Munich, he won 6-0. Later in 2002, Kasparov lost a four game rapid match (+1 -2 =1) over two days in December 2002 in New York City against Anatoly Karpov. In 2009 in Valencia, Spain, he again played Karpov, and won the Kasparov-Karpov Rapid Match (2009) 3-1 and the Kasparov-Karpov Blitz Match (2009) by 6-2. In 2011, as part of his Chess In Schools campaign, he played a two game Kasparov-Lagrave Blitz Match (2011) in Clichy France, winning by 1.5-0.5. A few months later in October 2011, he won the Kasparov-Short Blitz Match (2011) 4.5-3.5 (+3 -2 =3), breaking the deadlock after game 7 by winning game 8 to win the match.

<Simuls> In 1985, Kasparov played his first simul against a team, the Hamburg Bundesliga team lead by GM Murray Chandler, and lost 3.5-4.5, the first and only time he lost a simul against a team. In 1987, he played a simul against the same albeit slightly stronger team, but this time he was prepared and crushed the Hamburg players 7-1; later in 1987 he also crushed the Swiss team: Game Collection: Kasparov vs Swiss Team Simul by 5.5-0.5, drawing only with former World Junior Champion Werner Hug. In 1988 he played a simul against the French team in Evry (Game Collection: Kasparov vs French Team Simul), winning 4, drawing one and losing one; he played the French team again in 1989 (Game Collection: Kasparov vs French Team Simul 1989), this time winning three and drawing 3 games. Also in 1988 he played a simul against a group of powerful US Juniors, and won by 4-2 (+3 -1 =2)*****. In 1992, Kasparov played a clock simul against the German team ( Game Collection: Kasparov vs German National Team Simul) which included former title contender Vlastimil Hort with whom he drew, winning 2 and drawing 2. He played a simul against the Argentinean team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Argentinian Team Simul) winning (+7 -1 =4); in 1998 he played the Israeli team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Israeli National Team Simul) winning 7-1, and in 2001 he played the Czech team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Czech National Team Simul) in Prague, winning by +4 -1 =3.


Kasparov's ratings achievements include being rated world #1 according to Elo rating almost continuously from 1986 until his retirement in 2005. He was the world number-one ranked player for 255 months, a record that far outstrips all other previous and current number-one ranked players. Kasparov had the highest Elo rating in the world continuously from 1986 to 2005. However, Vladimir Kramnik equaled him in the January 1996 FIDE ratings list, technically supplanting him because he played more games. He was also briefly ejected from the list following his split from FIDE in 1993, but during that time he headed the rating list of the rival PCA. At the time of his retirement, he was still ranked #1 in the world, with a rating of 2812. In January 1990 Kasparov achieved the (then) highest FIDE rating ever, passing 2800 and breaking Bobby Fischer's old record of 2785. On the July 1999 and January 2000 FIDE rating lists Kasparov reached a 2851 Elo rating, which became the highest rating ever achieved until surpassed by Magnus Carlsen in 2013. There was a time in the early 1990s when Kasparov was over 2800 and the only person in the 2700s was Anatoly Karpov.


Under Kasparov's tutelage, Carlsen became the youngest ever to achieve a FIDE rating higher than 2800, and the youngest ever world number one. Kasparov also assisted Anand’s preparation for the Anand-Topalov World Chess Championship (2010) against challenger Veselin Topalov. Since his retirement, Kasparov has concentrated much of his time and energy in Russian politics. He is also a prolific author, most famously his <My Great Predecessors> series. His politics and authorship are discussed at some detail in the wiki article and at his official website cited below. In 2007, he was ranked 25th in The Daily Telegraph's list of 100 greatest living geniuses and has won 11 Chess Oscars.

Kasparov has been married three times: first to Masha, with whom he had a daughter, Polina (b. 1993), before divorcing; to Yulia, with whom he had a son, Vadim (b. 1996) before their 2005 divorce; and to Daria, with whom he also has a daughter, Aida (b. 2006).

Biography: Kasparov’s official website: Kasparov Chess Foundation: http://www.kasparovchessfoundation.... ]

*; ** [rusbase-1]; *** [rusbase-2]; **** [rusbase-3]; *****

Wikipedia article: Kasparov

 page 1 of 94; games 1-25 of 2,349  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. E Magerramov vs Kasparov 0-135 1973 BakuB54 Sicilian
2. Kasparov vs O Vasilchenko 1-040 1973 KievC03 French, Tarrasch
3. Kasparov vs S Muratkuliev 1-032 1973 Baku tt U18C77 Ruy Lopez
4. E Kengis vs Kasparov ½-½54 1973 Vilnius LTUB88 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin Attack
5. Kasparov vs Averbakh 1-048 1974 Moscow clock simC68 Ruy Lopez, Exchange
6. O Pavlenko vs Kasparov 0-134 1975 BakuE71 King's Indian, Makagonov System (5.h3)
7. Kasparov vs Polugaevsky ½-½25 1975 LeningradB40 Sicilian
8. Kasparov vs Gorelov 1-058 1975 BakuC61 Ruy Lopez, Bird's Defense
9. Kasparov vs B Kantsler 1-032 1975 Junior competitionC00 French Defense
10. E Vladimirov vs Kasparov ½-½30 1975 VilniusE17 Queen's Indian
11. Tilichkin vs Kasparov 0-143 1975 BakuB87 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin with ...a6 and ...b5
12. Kasparov vs Yurtaev 0-144 1975 BakuB39 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto, Breyer Variation
13. Rizvonov vs Kasparov 0-137 1975 VilniusE17 Queen's Indian
14. Kasparov vs Smyslov 0-130 1975 Team GM/Young PioneersC60 Ruy Lopez
15. Kasparov vs Yermolinsky 0-148 1975 BakuB05 Alekhine's Defense, Modern
16. Einoris vs Kasparov 0-142 1975 BakuB59 Sicilian, Boleslavsky Variation, 7.Nb3
17. Kasparov vs Yermolinsky 0-148 1975 LeningradB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
18. Dvoirys vs Kasparov ½-½45 1975 BakuB89 Sicilian
19. Kasparov vs A Sokolov 1-032 1975 BakuB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
20. Karpov vs Kasparov 1-045 1975 LeningradB92 Sicilian, Najdorf, Opocensky Variation
21. Kasparov vs E Kengis ½-½27 1975 BakuB52 Sicilian, Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack
22. Korchnoi vs Kasparov ½-½42 1975 Palace of Pioneers sim.E80 King's Indian, Samisch Variation
23. Kasparov vs Badalian ½-½97 1976 TbilisiC69 Ruy Lopez, Exchange, Gligoric Variation, 6.d4
24. Yurtaev vs Kasparov 0-146 1976 TbilisiB22 Sicilian, Alapin
25. A Velibekov vs Kasparov 1-023 1976 MoscowB84 Sicilian, Scheveningen
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Kasparov on Kasparov: Part I

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Aug-20-14  AJ of Alaska: KKDEREK - yOUR ATTEMPTS AT SARCASM ARE A FAILURE. You said I "spam". I have not forgotten it.
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  KKDEREK: You spam, you troll, you breath..
Aug-20-14  tzar: Lets forget about Kasparov...can any of Kirsan critics explain with clear data why Kirsan is such a disastrous President apart from the KO championship format?

Please forget arguments pointing out that he was a dictator or even a dangerous criminal (not relevant rumor unless there is a conviction). Or if he has been too long in power (perfectly right if he is elected) or abducted by aliens.

Lets talk in terms of efficiency and not in terms of democratic pedigree.

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  john barleycorn: <tzar> what is so terribly wrong with the KO format? The number of games? well, unless it is an unlimited match this will always be a concern, imo. Anybody who gave the universally accepted number of gamesto decide the matter?
Aug-20-14  tzar: Well, I understand the critics. There are other technical reasons, but to me the most important drawback was that it broke the tradition of selection of the WC challenger, specially in 1999 when even the champion had to play losing his privilege of waiting for a challenger...among other thongs it brought about that the quality of the next champions was poor with names such as Ponomariov, Khalifman or Kasimdzhanov which do not belong to the exquisite list of past champions and therefore strenghtening the line of PCA champions as the real thing.
Aug-20-14  AsosLight: <Lets forget about Kasparov...can any of Kirsan critics explain with clear data why Kirsan is such a disastrous President apart from the KO championship format?>

I can.

Because that's what the Jewish media say. Furthermore what the western European tyrannies push for to distance the agenda away from their own shortcomings and failures. Last put to the equation a tiny minority of Americans who suppress and victimize the 99% of the poor population over there.

If you can beat your own bad self you can always demonize the better hope abroad.

Aug-20-14  tzar: <AsosLight> Your post brings us too far but could you explain the main traits of what you call "western European tyrannies"?
Aug-20-14  tzar: Why have you conclude that what are generally conceived as impeccable democracies are in fact "tyrannies"?
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  KKDEREK: <AsosLight<Because that's what the Jewish media say>>

Yeah right, the "Jewish conspiracy". 'Jewish media'.. huh? That's new one. What you prefer? Putin's official press, 'fair and balanced news'?

Btw, you are the guy who loves to address Garry as mr. "Weinstein" just to point out his Jewish heritage.

Problems with Jewish people?

Hope not.

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  john barleycorn: <tzar: Well, I understand the critics. There are other technical reasons, but to me the most important drawback was that it broke the tradition of selection of the WC challenger, specially in 1999 when even the champion had to play losing his privilege of waiting for a challenger...among other thongs it brought about that the quality of the next champions was poor with names such as Ponomariov, Khalifman or Kasimdzhanov which do not belong to the exquisite list of past champions and therefore strenghtening the line of PCA champions as the real thing.>

Well, if Usain Bolt messes up the start of a race he is out. Let's not forget Ponomariov won against Ivanchuk, and Khalifman is a great player who deserves more respect, imo. Every title is played out by certain rules and not donated randomly.

Aug-20-14  AsosLight: Sure <tzar>. Almost all western European vassals have kept their dictators in power and one of their main concerns is to maintain this vicious rulers generation after generation.

Their poor citizens cannot even realize that they are under tyrants so much is the level of propaganda.

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  john barleycorn: < AsosLight:...

Their poor citizens cannot even realize that they are under tyrants so much is the level of propaganda.>

That is the mission of the unresting freedom fighter and superdemocrat - to enlighten us all. We have nothing to lose than our chains...

Aug-20-14  tzar: <john barleycorn> If you have a system that brings you Capablanca, Tal, Fischer and Kasparov and you change it for another that brings Ponomariov, Kasimdzhanov and khalifman maybe there is something wrong with the change...
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  perfidious: <tzar> One might politely call such a system unimpressive. The GMs in the latter group are plenty tough for we mortals, but stating they are on a par with the first group is utterly risible.
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  john barleycorn: Never said that they are on par. However, they won a contest declared as "the FIDE WC". And I repeat that, imo, Khalifman is underrated.
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  KKDEREK: <However, they won a contest declared as "the FIDE WC">

That says a lot about that FIDE..

<And I repeat that, imo, Khalifman is underrated.>

He is what he is, just a good player nothing special. Became a GM with 24 (?) years old, won one Russian Superfinals (without the strongest players) peaked at 2700, and..that's it..Oh and he won the Super-hyper- mega-FIDE knockout.

Aug-20-14  AJ of Alaska: <tzar: Lets forget about Kasparov...can any of Kirsan critics explain with clear data why Kirsan is such a disastrous President apart from the KO championship format?>

I see that no one here has answered your question tzar, and nobody is going to, because they are not able to!

They cannot criticize Kirsan for his record (with the sole exception of the questionable KO-format), so if they don't speak of "dictatorial", "bribes", even murder (they have no shame), THEY HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, PERIOD.

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  HeMateMe: read the letter referenced on the Short page. FIDE is a cesspool of corruption, if the allegations in the link are true.
Aug-20-14  AJ of Alaska: <HeMateMe: read the letter referenced on the Short page. FIDE is a cesspool of corruption, if the allegations in the link are true.>

My dear HeMateMe, you are obviously so stupid that you don't seem to comprehend that all you did right now was confirming my point:

If you don't point to alleged corruption, bribes, buying of votes, YOU HAVE NOTHING!

Your post is case in point.

Aug-20-14  Refused: <KKDEREK: <However, they won a contest declared as "the FIDE WC"> That says a lot about that FIDE..

<And I repeat that, imo, Khalifman is underrated.>

He is what he is, just a good player nothing special. Became a GM with 24 (?) years old, won one Russian Superfinals (without the strongest players) peaked at 2700, and..that's it..Oh and he won the Super-hyper- mega-FIDE knockout.>

Khalifman became GM before those <kiddy> GMs popped up everywhere. In comparision, Gelfand gained his title at 21 (in 1989). Timman was 23 when he became GM. So it's a bit misleading to just look, when somebody became GM imho.

His Peak Rating of 2.702 was from october 2001. You might want to look up that rating list. Back then 2.700 was a way bigger deal than it is today. I said it now and then, 2.750 is the new 2.700.

Ofc, Khalifman does not belong into the same category as Kasparov, Karpov, Anand, Kramnik and the other World Champions. But to reduce him to some sort of <chess tourist> who got lucky would indeed be unjust to him.

For me he is a bit into the same category as Jakovenko.

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  plang: <even murder (they have no shame),>

The murder allegations have been around for years - they weren't initiated here. Obviously, he was never charged or prosecuted - not sure that would be an option in a country like that which is not a democracy. He is a dictator who has been friendly with other dictators. I would prefer if chess was governed by someone who represents a more open form of government. Obviously, he has a lot of money which is why the chess world puts up with him.

His support of the KO WC format is a good example of how he governs - the majority of the chess world is opposed to this format but he likes it and since he puts up the $$ that is the end of the discussion.

Aug-20-14  AJ of Alaska: <plang> Once again, a lenghty post which speaks of murder allegations, "dictator", and the mantra: KO WC format.

Again, this is all you have to come up with all the time in your criticism of Kirsan, because you cannot criticize his record! Once again: NOBODY are able to answer Tzar's question!

Aug-20-14  Petrosianic: <plang>: <The murder allegations have been around for years - they weren't initiated here. Obviously, he was never charged or prosecuted ->

Kirsan wasn't charged, but his men were not only charged, but convicted of the crime. It's AJ who has no shame, trying to spin it all as some wild, baseless internet rumor, when he knows those facts as well as the rest of us.

Aug-20-14  AJ of Alaska: <Petrosianic> Are you having seriously readig comprehension problems??

OK, read this carefully:

1.The rumor I am referring to is the rumor that Kirsan was involved in the murder of a journalist, a rumor that is, like you say, baseless.

The crime was thoroughly investigated by Russian and Kalmykian authorities, and one of Kirsan's government advisors was among those convicted.

No proof or evidence has come to light indicating that Kirsan himself was by any means involved, like you obviously know too petrosianic.

2. I am not the one spreading the rumor that Kirsan was involved! Read a little back on this page and you will see that two posters, MissScarlett and Johska started spresding these rumors, which, I repeat, are baseless and untrue. I was answering to them!

OK? I hope I now have enlightened you and cleared up any misunderstandings, you stupid fool, petroshitic.

Aug-20-14  Petrosianic: <AJ of Alaska>: <Petrosianic [sic] Are you having seriously readig [sic] comprehension problems??>

The facts aren't in dispute. If you thought otherwise, then I'm afraid it's you who misread the post.

The facts are that one of Kirsan's advisors was convicted of murdering one of Kirsan's enemies, but Kirsan himself was not charged. You admit you knew that. My point was simply that it was dishonest of you to try to spin it as some wild, irresponsible, baseless, shameless rumor. If Romney's campaign manager had murdered Obama, obviously a lot of people would have thought Romney was involved, and whether he was charged or not would be irrelevant. This is common sense, but I suspect you'll have to take my word for that.

<you stupid fool, petroshitic.>

I've found that people who go to pieces and get abusive over simple factual questions know deep down that they're in the wrong, but aren't big enough to admit it. Don't you agree? :)

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