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Dec-06-08
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| FSR: Apparently it means an English person ("pom") who complains a lot ("whingeing") - see http://www.pacificislandtravel.com/... This isn't what I had expected: I had supposed it meant something like a carpetbagger, interloper, etc. |
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Dec-06-08
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| FSR: <Calli> You're actually right - from the above-cited dictionary: "Whingeing Pom - ('bloody whingeing pom'), the worst type of Pom, one who complains alot" |
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Dec-06-08
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| Calli: Perhaps an over-siliconed Playmate Of the Month. :-} |
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| Dec-06-08 |
| sneaky pete: My dictionary says <whinghe> (fam.) = whine and <pom> = Pomeranian dog. I must admit that this morning I thought I read something about <whingeing porn>, which sounds, if not exciting, at least interesting, so maybe <Calli> is on the right trail. |
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Dec-06-08
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| anthro: When I was in high school in the 1960s, the only chess book I had was the ancient Gossip manual, which was given to me by my grandfather. I used the book as a guide to openings and won a surprising number of games as White (on my high school team (usually third board, occasionally second board) playing openings such as the Evans Gambit and the Fried Liver attack (though Gossip did not use that name). |
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| Dec-06-08 |
| newzild: As for the "whingeing pom" comments below, I am a New Zealander, and we also use the term in our country. It should actually be "whingeing Pom" (capital P on the Pom). To "whinge" is to complain about something and "Pom" is a slightly derogatory term for an English person. The term is a reference to the New Zealand/Australian belief that English people tend to complain a lot, and need to harden up. |
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| Dec-06-08 |
| WhiteRook48: Does he gossip? |
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Dec-06-08
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| FSR: <blingice> G.H. Diggle in the British Chess Magazine called Gossip "the King of Wooden Spoonists" (that is a Briticism for someone who finishes last) because he finished last so often. But he actually did pretty well at New York 1889, where he won 11 games, drew 5, and lost 22. See my Wikipedia article for more details: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg... |
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Jan-01-09
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| Caissanist: <FSR>, your Wikipedia article on Gossip is outstanding, congratulations and many thanks. |
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Feb-15-09
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| Karpova: Edward Winter in C.N. 5994:
<Having traced a copy of "The Jew of Chamant", a novel which G.H.D. Gossip brought out in 1898 under the pseudonym Ivan Trepoff, Frederick S. Rhine (Park Ridge, IL, USA) has sent us a photostat of the complete work. He comments: ‘It is a vile book, virulently anti-Semitic but also very anti-Catholic and with negative references to South Americans, American Indians, a [...], atheists, socialists and Romanians.> Source: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... There are also some excerpts. |
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Feb-15-09
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| FSR: <Caissanist> Thanks! <Karpova> Yes, that's me: Frederick S. Rhine. I rather wish I hadn't ferreted out "The Jew of Chamant." Before that, I considered Gossip a harmless but entertaining crank. That book, unfortunately, gives us a whole new perspective on the man. |
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| Feb-27-09 |
| swarmoflocusts: "In 1889, he took last place in the 5th British Chess Federation championship. In 1889, he took last place in the 6th German Chess Federation championship. In 1890, he took last place in the 6th British Chess Federation Congress. In 1892, he took last place in the 7th British Chess Federation Congress. In October 1893, he took last place in New York. He died on May 11, 1907 in Liphook, England." Life's a bitch and then you die, right? |
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| Feb-27-09 |
| cyruslaihy: why is chessgames doing its best to make fun of this already dead player? whats the meaning of saying last place in this last place in that when you can just say "his performance went poor later in his life" |
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| Feb-27-09 |
| Judah: One doesn't need to "take" last place. That's just what's left. |
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Feb-27-09
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| FSR: Gossip was really never a successful player. Fred Reinfeld in his book "A Treasury of British Chess Masterpieces" accurately called him "a mediocre player who figured at or near the bottom of every better than average tourney in which he participated." Far and away his best tournament result was at New York 1889, a super-tournament of the day, where he scored 11 wins, 5 draws, and 22 losses. His drawn match against W.H.K. Pollock in 1895 was also a respectable result. My Featured Article about him on Wikipedia has everything you ever wanted to know about Gossip but were afraid to ask: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg... |
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| Apr-21-09 |
| MaczynskiPratten: Although he had some bad results, I would never label as mediocre someone who could produce a game like Showalter vs Gossip, 1889, which even Steinitz admired in the tournament book. Or indeed someone who could write what was generally agreed to be a pretty good textbook. So I am intrigued why he finished last so often. Did he have a nervous or psychological flaw which meant that he got psyched out and his game fell apart when he had lost a couple in succession? Or simply ill-health or exhaustion towards the end of a long tournament? |
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| Apr-21-09 |
| Dredge Rivers: Stop telling Gossip! |
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Nov-02-09
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| Phony Benoni: So Liphook, England was his last place? |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| gus inn: <Phony Benoni> So Rumour says. |
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Nov-17-09
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| FSR: <MaczynskiPratten> From my previously cited Wikipedia Featured Article on Gossip: A report in the British Chess Magazine in 1889 observed that Gossip suffered from great nervousness that prevented him from fully displaying his abilities at chess tournaments, where he had to stop his ears "to keep out the low hum inseparable from a large concourse of people". (Quoted in G.H. Diggle, "The Master Who Never Was", British Chess Magazine (January 1969), at pp. 2-3.) Bird likewise wrote that minor distractions that he would not even notice would "drive ... Gossip to despair". (Henry Bird, Chess History and Reminiscences, 1893, pp. 240-41.) The BCM commentator accordingly believed that Gossip "would make a good stand in a single encounter with men who are much higher in the tournament than he is". (Diggle) Diggle points, as proof of the BCM commentator's assertion, to Gossip's drawn 1895 match (+6 =5 -6) against W.H.K. Pollock. |
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Nov-17-09
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| parisattack: <FSR: <MaczynskiPratten> From my previously cited Wikipedia Featured Article on Gossip: > I believe I read his book received very poor reviews and he was quite hurt by that result. <FSR>? |
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Nov-18-09
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| FSR: <parisattack> Yes, the critics trashed the first edition of "The Chess-Player's Manual," which embittered Gossip against critics for the rest of his life. However, they liked his later "Theory of the Chess Openings" and the second edition of "The Chess-Player's Manual." As I keep saying, it's all in my Wikipedia article. |
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Nov-19-09
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| FSR: Incidentally, I have nominated my Wikipedia article on Gossip to appear on the main page of Wikipedia on December 6 (Gossip's birthday). http://bit.ly/1pgFq So far, it has eight Supports and no Opposes, so I assume it has good chances. |
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Nov-19-09
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| parisattack: <FSR: <parisattack> Yes, the critics trashed the first edition of "The Chess-Player's Manual," which embittered Gossip against critics for the rest of his life. However, they liked his later "Theory of the Chess Openings" and the second edition of "The Chess-Player's Manual." As I keep saying, it's all in my Wikipedia article.> Excellent work! Read, printed and placed with my copy of The Chess-Player's Manual. Have you done any other players? |
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Nov-20-09
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| FSR: <parisattack: . . . Excellent work! Read, printed and placed with my copy of The Chess-Player's Manual. . . . Have you done any other players?> Thanks! Yes, I've done many. I haven't gone into nearly as much depth on anyone else as I have on Gossip. The Hugh Myers article was also originated by me and almost entirely written by me. I have done far more work on Bobby Fischer than anyone else has, but I've still only done about 20% of the edits on that very heavily edited page. On my Wikipedia user page, http://bit.ly/2uhRaS I write: I am particularly proud of my articles First-move advantage in chess, George H. D. Gossip, and Swindle (chess). The first two of these have been promoted to Featured Article, the highest rating on Wikipedia. Only about 2,700 of the 3.1 million articles in the English Wikipedia are Featured Articles. Of about 3,200 chess-related articles on Wikipedia, these are two of only four Featured Articles. I have also written articles about the American Chess Quarterly, John Washington Baird, Rosendo Balinas, Jr., the Balogh Defense, Joseph Bertin, the Blackburne Shilling Gambit, Henry Charlick, Chess theory, Istvan Csom, the Czech Defense, the desperado piece, dice chess, G.H. Diggle, the English Defense, Frederick Esling, Edward Freeborough, Ellen Gilbert, Golden Knights (chess), John Grefe, James Grundy (chess player), James Hanham, Carsten Hansen, Robert Hess (chess player), Henry Hosmer, the Immortal losing game, the Irish Gambit, the Italian Game, the Jerome Gambit, Lubomir Kavalek, Kieninger Trap, Atanas Kolev, Bogdan Lalic, Le Palamčde, Anatoly Lein, James A. Leonard, the List of Ethnic Chess Openings (renamed the List of chess openings named after places after surviving a vote for deletion), Napoleon Marache, Mihail Marin, Max Lange Attack, Dragoljub Minić, Leopold Mitrofanov, Hugh Myers, the Norwegian Defense, the Parham Attack, the Peruvian Immortal, Petar Popovic, Arshak Petrosian, the Polish Defense, the Polish Immortal, Charles Ranken, Ilya Smirin, Jeff Sonas, Mihai Suba, William Wayte, White and Black in chess, John G. White, and Michael Wilder; writing most of the article about Fred Reinfeld, which had been a stub; writing almost all of what is now Checkmates in the opening; completely rewriting Chess Player's Chronicle and X-ray (chess); adding a lot of content to Henry Ernest Atkins, Leonard Barden, Bird's Opening, Black Knights' Tango, Boden's mate, Amos Burn, Checkmate, Chess handicap, Jan Hein Donner, Double check, Dunst Opening, Englund Gambit, Larry Evans, Bobby Fischer, Fortress (chess), Glossary of chess, Gisela Kahn Gresser, Hippopotamus Defence, Latvian Gambit, Francis Joseph Lee, David Levy (chess player), Andor Lilienthal, List of world records in chess, Maróczy Bind, Owen's Defence, Passed pawn, Ponziani Opening, Promotion (chess), Pierre Charles Fournier de Saint-Amant, Ortvin Sarapu, Scotch Game, Sisters (Lynne Cheney novel), Gregory Serper, Sicilian Defence, Stalemate, Howard Staunton, Staunton Gambit, Mir Sultan Khan, Touch-move rule, Vienna Game, Wade Defence, John Herbert White, Baruch Harold Wood, World Chess Championship 1972, World Junior Chess Championship, Zugzwang, and Zwischenzug; and contributing to myriad other articles. Edward Winter, probably the world's foremost chess historian, recently referred to two of my articles in his famous Chess Notes Internet column: 5919. Wikipedia
It is impossible not to have misgivings, both general and particular, about Wikipedia, but we have recently noticed a great improvement in some of the chess articles in the site’s English-language version. There is, for instance, excellent treatment of G.H.D. Gossip, and it is also good to see a fine article on Hugh Myers. |
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