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| Feb-27-06 |
| PaddyAlekhine: I donīt think anyone could actually finish last in so many champonships. I believe itīs nothing but gossip. Sorry, couldnīt resist. |
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Sep-28-06
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| Knight13: He did beat up some good players. And that's not gossip! |
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| Apr-20-07 |
| wolfmaster: Guy was talkative, and then dies with his lips shut!(Lip hook) |
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| Oct-12-07 |
| psmith: Surely his middle name is "Hatfield"? |
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Oct-12-07
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| Phony Benoni: <psmith> That would seem to make him the real McCoy. At least, that's what everyone is saying. But "Hatfeild" does appear to be correct. See http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... (Item no. 5075), http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... (Item no. 5100), and http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/.... |
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| Sep-30-08 |
| GrahamClayton: The 1885 Australian championship was a match between Gossip and Frederick Esling. After playing in the Melbourne Chess Club handicap tournament in May, Gossip wrote in the "Australasian" chess column, dated 6th June:
"The results of my play during the last year having led me to think that I may not unreasonably aspire to the title of Chess Champion of Australia...." Gossip issued a challenge to play anyone for the Australian championship.
Frederick Esling took up the challenge, with Andrew Burns being his "second". The match was set for 2 games each week, 20 moves an hour and the winner being the first to achieve 5 wins. Each player put up 20 pounds stake money. Esling won game 1 on the 27th of June as Black. After commencing game 2, Gossip stopped the match, due to contracting bronchitis and having to stay in bed for several weeks to recover. Source: Anthony Wright, "Australian Chess to 1914", Melbourne 1995 |
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Dec-06-08
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| FSR: I recently wrote the Wikipedia article on Gossip. Quite a character. See http://www.wikipedia.org/George_H.D... Incidentally, Kenneth Whyld in a May 2001 British Chess Magazine article about Gossip wrote that the Australians probably regarded him as a "whingeing pom" for moving to their country in 1884, then the following year challenging anyone to play him for the Australian championship. I still have to look up what exactly "whingeing pom" means - but it doesn't sound good. |
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Dec-06-08
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| Calli: Whingeing? Yeah, thats the worst kind of pom. :-] |
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Dec-06-08
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| FSR: Apparently it means an English person ("pom") who complains a lot ("whingeing") - see http://www.pacificislandtravel.com/... This isn't what I had expected: I had supposed it meant something like a carpetbagger, interloper, etc. |
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Dec-06-08
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| FSR: <Calli> You're actually right - from the above-cited dictionary: "Whingeing Pom - ('bloody whingeing pom'), the worst type of Pom, one who complains alot" |
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Dec-06-08
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| Calli: Perhaps an over-siliconed Playmate Of the Month. :-} |
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| Dec-06-08 |
| sneaky pete: My dictionary says <whinghe> (fam.) = whine and <pom> = Pomeranian dog. I must admit that this morning I thought I read something about <whingeing porn>, which sounds, if not exciting, at least interesting, so maybe <Calli> is on the right trail. |
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Dec-06-08
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| anthro: When I was in high school in the 1960s, the only chess book I had was the ancient Gossip manual, which was given to me by my grandfather. I used the book as a guide to openings and won a surprising number of games as White (on my high school team (usually third board, occasionally second board) playing openings such as the Evans Gambit and the Fried Liver attack (though Gossip did not use that name). |
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| Dec-06-08 |
| newzild: As for the "whingeing pom" comments below, I am a New Zealander, and we also use the term in our country. It should actually be "whingeing Pom" (capital P on the Pom). To "whinge" is to complain about something and "Pom" is a slightly derogatory term for an English person. The term is a reference to the New Zealand/Australian belief that English people tend to complain a lot, and need to harden up. |
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| Dec-06-08 |
| WhiteRook48: Does he gossip? |
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Dec-06-08
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| FSR: <blingice> G.H. Diggle in the British Chess Magazine called Gossip "the King of Wooden Spoonists" (that is a Briticism for someone who finishes last) because he finished last so often. But he actually did pretty well at New York 1889, where he won 11 games, drew 5, and lost 22. See my Wikipedia article for more details: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg... |
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Jan-01-09
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| Caissanist: <FSR>, your Wikipedia article on Gossip is outstanding, congratulations and many thanks. |
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| Feb-15-09 |
| Karpova: Edward Winter in C.N. 5994:
<Having traced a copy of "The Jew of Chamant", a novel which G.H.D. Gossip brought out in 1898 under the pseudonym Ivan Trepoff, Frederick S. Rhine (Park Ridge, IL, USA) has sent us a photostat of the complete work. He comments: It is a vile book, virulently anti-Semitic but also very anti-Catholic and with negative references to South Americans, American Indians, a [...], atheists, socialists and Romanians.> Source: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... There are also some excerpts. |
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Feb-15-09
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| FSR: <Caissanist> Thanks! <Karpova> Yes, that's me: Frederick S. Rhine. I rather wish I hadn't ferreted out "The Jew of Chamant." Before that, I considered Gossip a harmless but entertaining crank. That book, unfortunately, gives us a whole new perspective on the man. |
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| Feb-27-09 |
| swarmoflocusts: "In 1889, he took last place in the 5th British Chess Federation championship. In 1889, he took last place in the 6th German Chess Federation championship. In 1890, he took last place in the 6th British Chess Federation Congress. In 1892, he took last place in the 7th British Chess Federation Congress. In October 1893, he took last place in New York. He died on May 11, 1907 in Liphook, England." Life's a bitch and then you die, right? |
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| Feb-27-09 |
| cyruslaihy: why is chessgames doing its best to make fun of this already dead player? whats the meaning of saying last place in this last place in that when you can just say "his performance went poor later in his life" |
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| Feb-27-09 |
| Judah: One doesn't need to "take" last place. That's just what's left. |
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Feb-27-09
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| FSR: Gossip was really never a successful player. Fred Reinfeld in his book "A Treasury of British Chess Masterpieces" accurately called him "a mediocre player who figured at or near the bottom of every better than average tourney in which he participated." Far and away his best tournament result was at New York 1889, a super-tournament of the day, where he scored 11 wins, 5 draws, and 22 losses. His drawn match against W.H.K. Pollock in 1895 was also a respectable result. My Featured Article about him on Wikipedia has everything you ever wanted to know about Gossip but were afraid to ask: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg... |
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| Apr-21-09 |
| MaczynskiPratten: Although he had some bad results, I would never label as mediocre someone who could produce a game like Showalter vs Gossip, 1889, which even Steinitz admired in the tournament book. Or indeed someone who could write what was generally agreed to be a pretty good textbook. So I am intrigued why he finished last so often. Did he have a nervous or psychological flaw which meant that he got psyched out and his game fell apart when he had lost a couple in succession? Or simply ill-health or exhaustion towards the end of a long tournament? |
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| Apr-21-09 |
| Dredge Rivers: Stop telling Gossip! |
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