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Jul-05-08
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| Knight13: <sneaky pete> March point 5. |
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Jul-14-08
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| brankat: R.I.P. Master Bird! |
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Sep-24-08
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| whiteshark: Quote of the Day
" Chess is so ancient that, by that distinction alone, it seems taken beyond the category of games altogether; and it has been said that it probably would have perished long ago, if it had not been destined to live for ever. " -- Henry Bird |
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Jan-24-09
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| Calli: Bird was apparently an expert on railroads. His books on that business were noted in this advertisement for his "Chess Masterpieces" CHESS MASTERPIECES.
By H. E. BIRD,
Practical Accountant and Statistician, Compiler of " Railway Statistics, 1862, in connexion with Board of Trade, and Parliamentary Committee Inquiries, as to Principles o/ Amalgamation*" Author of " Comprehensive Analysis of Railways in United Kingdom, 1867 ;"* and now preparing for press, " Exhaustive Review of the Progress of Railways to 31st January, 1882, with statements, comparative and otherwise, of their real position." COMPRISING
A collection of 156 Choice Games of the past quarter of a century, with Notes, including the finest Games in the Exhibition of 1851, and in the Vienna Tournament of 1873, with excellent specimens of the styles of Anderssen, Blackburne, Der Lasa, Hanstein, Kolisch, Lowenthal, Morphy, Staunton, Steinitz, and the principal English players. Supplemented by Games of Labourdonnais, Macdonnell, and Cochrane, contested prior to 1849. Compiled by H. E. Bird. Cloth, black lettered, 3s.; or, handsomely bound, gilt and gilt edges, 5s. The entire series will be found full of interest and points of excellence, and can scarcely fail to afford amusement and pleasure, as well as to impart instruction, to all who may avail themselves of the opportunity of examining them; they will be of especial service to amateurs who aspire to preeminence in Chess. * Effingham Wilson, Eoyal Exchange.
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| Feb-25-09 |
| Judah: Bird is probably best known today for the couple of eccentric opening variations that bear his name. Thanks to Google, Bird's long-out-of-print book on "The Chess Openings, Considered Critically and Practically" is now accessible. http://books.google.com/books?id=hC... Some highlights from browsing through it:
Bird hints (quoting Wormald) that he was largely responsible for reviving the Ruy Lopez as an opening for White.
For Black, he advocates the slightly notorious defense that bears his name (3...Nd4). In the King's Gambit, he advocates the Cunningham defense for Black (3...Be7, intending 4...Bh4+, to prevent White from castling). He does not attempt to keep the pawn, however, handing it back with a quick ...d5 for the sake of development. He likes Bird's Opening (of course), thinking From's gambit dangerous but unsound, but concludes that Grob's opening (1.g4) has "little beyond novelty to recommend it". The dedication is also nice: a chess problem composed by Sam Loyd in Bird's honor: White to mate in 4. The pieces on the board are arranged in a letter B. |
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| Mar-01-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Bird is probably best known for his serious pun potential |
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Mar-06-09
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| whiteshark: White-bellied go-away Bird |
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| Jun-15-09 |
| akapovsky: At what age did Bird learn how to play chess? |
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Jun-15-09
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| keypusher: Judging from this game, around age 40 or so.
Steinitz vs Bird, 1866 |
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Jul-07-09
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| whiteshark: Birds' chirping might provide clues to human learning and memory. |
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| Jul-14-09 |
| TheTamale: Good morning, <YoungEd>. I expect to see you here this morning paying tribute to Mr. Bird, today's Player of the Day. |
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| Jul-14-09 |
| YoungEd: Good morning, <TheTamale>--
You're right--I arrive to add my huzzahs to those already so aptly bestowed on Mr. Bird! So here they are: Huzzah! Huzzah! His games provide endless entertainment and remind my why I like chess so much. |
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| Jul-14-09 |
| WhiteRook48: don't be a birdbrain |
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| Jul-14-09 |
| TheTamale: And his Opening is the one I can play and sometimes avoid getting demolished instantaneously by strong players. |
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Jul-14-09
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| talisman: happy birthday henry. f4. |
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Jul-14-09
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| Knight13: Happy Birthday, Mr. BIRD!
And congrats on being so famous that every single one of your games has a kibitz sign next to it! |
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| Jul-14-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: What's the difference between moving your King bishop pawn two squares, the queen's bishop to QN2, and putting your knight on K5, if you're white or black? Answer: If you're white, you're Bird, and you're labelled an eccentric. But if you're black, and you're Nimzo, you're labelled an original thinker. |
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Jul-21-09
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| Knight13: <Answer: If you're white, you're Bird, and you're labelled an eccentric. But if you're black, and you're Nimzo, you're labelled an original thinker.> Except that Nimzo's ideas worked 95% of the time and led him into World's Top 5, while Bird's worked less than 50% of the time and got pushed and beat around by the top players. |
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Jul-21-09
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| blacksburg: <Except that Nimzo's ideas worked 95% of the time and led him into World's Top 5, while Bird's worked less than 50% of the time and got pushed and beat around by the top players.> ok, Bird lost to Morphy, but so did everyone else.
Meanwhile, Nimzovitch also got smacked around pretty badly against the Morphys of his day. <Overall record: Jose Raul Capablanca beat Aron Nimzowitsch 5 to 0, with 6 draws.> <Overall record: Alexander Alekhine beat Aron Nimzowitsch 9 to 3, with 9 draws.> |
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Jul-21-09
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| keypusher: <AnalyzeThis: What's the difference between moving your King bishop pawn two squares, the queen's bishop to QN2, and putting your knight on K5, if you're white or black? Answer: If you're white, you're Bird, and you're labelled an eccentric.
But if you're black, and you're Nimzo, you're labelled an original thinker.> And if you're RookFile posting about Nimzowitsch, you're an idiot. <knight13, Blackburg> 19th century ratings don't mean a hell of a lot, but Bird was pretty strong in the 1870s. http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play... |
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Jul-21-09
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| Knight13: <ok, Bird lost to Morphy, but so did everyone else.> Except that Bird lost to hell of a lot more people than one person (Morphy). |
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| Jul-29-09 |
| YoungEd: <AnalyzeThis> makes an interesting point, which I think <Knight13> partially misses. Bird wasn't as strong a player as Nimzovich, and so his success wasn't as great, but that doesn't mean that his opening ideas were less worthy of consideration. Strong players such as Tartakower, Stahlberg and Larsen have shown that 1. f4 can succeed even at high levels. In any event, no one can deny that Bird's games, win or lose, are fun to play through! |
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Jul-29-09
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| Knight13: <but that doesn't mean that his opening ideas were less worthy of consideration.> That only applies to a <few> of his ideas, with Bird's Opening as one of them. Others aren't good and nobody master and up plays it today. Meanwhile, <most> of Nimzovich's ideas are widely accepted and played. He even wrote a book on his ideas and many followed it and acclaimed his ideas. Bird didn't get that kind of recognition, did he?
Which means...
Nimzovich was a a lot stronger player AND had a lot better ideas. So the judgements of <If you're white, you're Bird, and you're labelled an eccentric. But if you're black, and you're Nimzo, you're labelled an original thinker.> is to be expected. |
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| Jul-29-09 |
| YoungEd: Hi, <Knight13>--
You're right in that Nimzovich was not only a greater player but an important writer as well. I've read very little of Bird's writing, but my sense is that it's nowhere near as systematic (forgive the pun) as Nimzovich's, nowhere near as rigorous, and in any event its reputation hasn't held up the way Nimzovich's has. That in itself probably lends more credence to Nimzo's ideas in the minds of most players today.
I took <AnalyzeThis> to be comparing Bird's and the Dutch set-ups specifically, rather than Bird's ideas as a whole. And I still think he has a good point here. But I'll grant that Nimzovich was a greater and more important player in every respect. |
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| Aug-29-09 |
| Raisin Death Ray: I'm like a Bird,
I'll only fly away! |
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