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Dec-15-06
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| CoryLetain: Using his daughters talent as a defence for himself seems fairly thin. |
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| Dec-15-06 |
| TIMER: I don't know the circumstances, and this is all very sensitive stuff, but the argument about her being scheming by her chess does not make sense to me. You don't sacrifice your king in chess. I think he uses her chess too much in his argument. A laptop dispute is disproportianately small compared to the overall scheme of what happened, so does not really make sense to me- must be more to it than that. Also it seemed a bit cold (maybe that is just how it was reported?) the way he did not say anything about his grief and just put her down to protect himself. |
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Dec-15-06
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| chancho: Wow, the mother of Jessie was arrested for threatening to kill her ex husband. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li... |
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| Dec-15-06 |
| TIMER: This is a very sad story. But the law is based on beyond reasonable doubt (that is over 90%), so he might be found not guilty even if he is likely guilty as AdrianP said. I thought he showed typical misunderstanding of what chess was about the way he used it against her (non-chess players can often be taken in by 'magic qualities' of strong chess players). He would have been better describing it as some psychological problem than her scheming for revenge (to make more sense), although then it could be argued back that he caused the problems by rape etc. It is very sad if he is guilty and got away with it- but then his conscience would have to hurt. On AdrianP's point, could they try a civil court like where OJ Simpson was found probably guilty, in order to get compensation and some sense of justice? |
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Dec-18-06
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| Domdaniel: <chancho> Please, not the Daily Mail. It is not a serious newspaper. Would those people still being voyeuristic about this horribly sad 'story' remember that it's real? And that quite a few regular members here knew Jessie? Just leave it. Even the thread about the media misrepresentation of 'the chess mind' is not in good taste here. Somewhere else, by all means. One small gesture of respect would be to avoid using this page for rants about some strong feeling of your own - whether's it is suicide, sexual abuse, god, guilt, the law, the media, or anything else. Like: <The grim ripper will get you!>.
Words fail me. Though not quite as much as they failed the writer of this. |
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Dec-18-06
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| chancho: <Domdaniel> I found the link to the arrest of Jessie's mother and thought it was worth posting the link on this page. My apologies to all those who were offended by this. |
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| Dec-18-06 |
| Amulet: <Domdaniel:>
Sorry for all those offended by my line, in fact that is a certainty for all of us, that all of us who were born are destined to die. However we should not be disheartened by this reality, because this will make us aware of our frailty, which will make us be careful of what we do in life, because sooner or later we will stand before our creator, and make account of all the hurtful words we said. How much more were the crimes commited.
Oops, my apology again. |
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| Dec-18-06 |
| TIMER: <Domdaniel> I remember playing against her, she was a good sport and analysed after a loss. (There are some fairly well-known even popular players who were very disrespectful after losing, so this was a good quality) Maybe it is best to remember the good things like that rather than dwell on all these speculations on the terrible events that occurred. |
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Dec-19-06
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| AdrianP: <TIMER> <could they try a civil court like where OJ Simpson was found probably guilty, in order to get compensation and some sense of justice?> It's a reasonably thorny area of English law, but in principle, yes, she could have brought a civil claim, and that would probably be a claim which could now be brought by her estate. Compare the Van Hoogstraten case (not guilty in criminal proceedings, but a civil claim successful) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/... It's another question entirely whether a civil judgment would be much use to anyone. |
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| Jan-30-07 |
| laskereshevsky: I never heard about her before...What a tragedy....Im a bit distraught about her story.....very, very sadness thing.....Your life look like a little downtrodden flower.....I just hope now you have peace, LITTLE GIRL... |
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| Jan-30-07 |
| Dr.Lecter: Happy birthday Jessie. Hope your soul rests peacefully in heaven. |
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Jan-30-07
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| ianD: You had a troubled life.
Rest in peace:
http://www.aldermary.com/wordpress/
http://www.aldermary.com/jessiegilb...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessie... |
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| Jan-30-07 |
| uzeromay: "On AdrianP's point, could they try a civil court like where OJ Simpson was found probably guilty, in order to get compensation and some sense of justice?" I hope so! I hope that's what happens. |
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| Feb-23-07 |
| Knightlord: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/... Here Jessie's mother talks about it. |
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Mar-22-07
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| waddayaplay: < OJ Simpson> yes, but he was guilty. |
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Mar-22-07
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| waddayaplay: It has happened several times that kids have made up these kind of stories to get back at their father or step-father. And it is not so funny for a man to spend 10 years in prison for such a disgusting crime if he didn't commit it. Unfortunately the courts have been prone to accept the childrens testimonies even when there is not any other evidence at all to back up their stories (including physical / gynaecological examination). |
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| Mar-22-07 |
| RookFile: Sometimes, the less said, the better. |
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| Mar-22-07 |
| schnarre: <RookFile> True enough, especially with matters of intense feeling. My thanks to chancho & others that have provided links for viewing. |
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Jul-26-07
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| Stonehenge: Jul-26-2006 Jul-26-2007 RIP Jessie
I didn't know you, but I won't forget you. |
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Jan-12-08
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| ketchuplover: There's going to be a Jessie Gilbert Celebration tournament in her hometown in August. You'll have to look it up for more info. |
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Jul-15-08
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| blacksburg: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand... my heart goes out to the other children of this family. |
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Jul-26-08
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| Stonehenge: Two years already, RIP Jessie. |
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Aug-14-08
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| Stonehenge: <ketchuplover: There's going to be a Jessie Gilbert Celebration tournament in her hometown in August. You'll have to look it up for more info.> Yes, it begins Saturday.
http://www.ccfworld.com/Chess/Adult... |
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| Aug-28-08 |
| myschkin: . . .
And the results are
http://www.ccfworld.com/Chess/Resul... |
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| Aug-28-08 |
| myschkin: . . .
"To a precious girl whose memory will live on eternally in the hearts and minds of everyone..." http://www.jessiegilbert.com/
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